The Mick & Pat Show - Whaling Adventures and Holiday Gift Giving

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I think every conquistador had that after sailing across the sea.

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Oh my gosh, actually all right, speaking of that dude, guess what I was watching and listening to at till like 1 30 am last night night, before it could be anything, I had some spicy chicken that kept me up with gurgly tummy.

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I had bubble gut tummy and I was like there's no way I can go to sleep peacefully while this is going on yeah so I threw in a.

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I threw in another three poucher of zen to just get it, get things oiled up as in like a three milligram or a triple.

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No, a triple six, triple six, six.

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Yeah, the devil's sugar.

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I never even thought of it that way, but it is.

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But yeah, no, throw in three, six milligram pouches.

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That's what I do if I'm like I know I need a poo so I can get some sleep, and I am not going to be able to go to sleep until this gut passes, so I'll throw in one of those and just wait until it does its magic.

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You can't drink coffee.

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That's counterproductive to sleeping.

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Yeah, exactly, you can't drink coffee at 1 am.

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Um, so, anyways, though, I uh I threw those in and I was watching mike rowe oh, yeah, dirty jobs everybody and I was watching him.

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Uh, you know, as he does edumacate the masses while being a guest on the joe rogan show and it was like it was clear, in an episode where joe was just like easily, you know, pretty brutally on shrooms or something, man, because he just was breathing so hard and kept on interrupting mike rowe his veins in his head are sweating.

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He was just like oh my, oh my god, like he was literally like.

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He sounded like he sounded like he got kicked in the nuts.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, um, which don't get me wrong, it was a test subject, but micro was telling the true story, uh, which I watched a full, like longer, video on to get like, make sure I listen, watch the whole thing.

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But it's the story of the essex do.

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Do you know the Essex?

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The Essex Is it a ship?

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Was a ship?

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It was a ship.

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Did it explore the Arctic?

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No, no, this was not one of those ships.

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Was it an old, old ship?

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Give me how old is one old?

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One old would be, like you know, coal.

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Do they have sails?

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That's old, old, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's sails.

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Okay, it's sails, all right.

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So that's pretty old, old.

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So wooden and sails the Essex.

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Do you know?

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What country did it hail from?

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Technically the United Kingdom, but it was coming off of Suffolk Virginia, suffolk Massachusetts, suffolk Massachusetts.

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So this was before America.

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Yeah.

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This is during the colony times.

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Yeah, so the Essex was a whaling ship.

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Oh, man.

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Coming out of Nantucket, massachusetts, coming out of Nantucket, massachusetts, and the Essex is the ship that experienced the real life, moby Dick, and what they encountered out at the sea, and how the crew only a few survived.

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Uh, but essentially their experience is what you know, traveled across the globe at during that time and day of, like just crazy, insane news, and it is what led um.

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What's his name?

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Herbert melville.

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What's his name?

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The guy who wrote, uh, moby dick oh yeah, I have no idea.

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Okay, all right, you ever read that, or?

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like journey to the center of the earth.

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They're like all written by the same dude, I'm pretty sure I have watched the 1950s or whatever journey to the center of the earth and I was disturbed by it on a family pizza movie night as a child.

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But um the uh man whaling ships, I think it's.

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They're so, herman, melville, herman herbert, um, yeah, do you?

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Know much about whaling ships.

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I just I don't, but I just think there used to, it had to used to be so many whales all right.

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So let me tell you yeah, yeah, no, this is the crazy thing.

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So this was like back in, like the 1800s uh, it was 1820 so it wasn't so massachusetts wasn't a, wasn't a colony of england anymore.

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Okay, that was a different essex ship that was mentioning.

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This is a list of like, uh, various essex ships here that I'm looking at, um, but yeah, so this one, it was crewed by like a 21 22 dudes with like a captain and then like 21 crew, um and uh they were.

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They would go out on their whaling ships for, like, sometimes, this is, this is this is the thing that threw joe rogan over the edge.

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Micro would say they'd leave for two to three years long hunters, dude, two to three years, bro, before coming back from a whaling excursion.

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That's what Daniel Boone would do.

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Man Long hunters.

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Yeah, but these are dudes that got like wives and kids and family back in Nantucket.

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I know Back in the day, like if you were going after stuff like these guys meant business Long time I couldn't do it.

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I couldn't do it, bro, could you, could you?

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I mean, there's no way you could be away from your children for two to three years and feel like a good father.

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No, not by modern standards, by modern standards?

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certainly not.

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I think I maybe could have done this Back in the day Back in the day, like you could have gone on a Nantucket sleigh ride.

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I do get seasick, so that might have been a problem.

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Oh, you couldn't have done this, bro All.

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So that might have been a problem.

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Oh, you couldn't have done this, bro Alright.

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So they, but they go off to try to find these spawning areas right and do whaling the captain.

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I'm not gonna spend too much time on the names.

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I'm giving like a glossy overview here of the story, but everyone should go check it out.

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There's quite a few books written about it that are like the true ones the Heart of the Sea.

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And then there's another one called I think it's called beneath the heart of the sea.

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Both of them are based off of, like the firsthand accounts of survivors and like the letters they wrote about it.

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Just how freaking brutal this was.

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Uh, the heart of the sea.

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And then there was one more, oh, there was a movie called the heart of the sea, produced by ron howard.

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That was the one that chris hemsworth was in, um, but anyways, um.

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So the essex sails out of uh, nantucket.

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They're going for the excursion and they're not having a lot of good luck and they're getting hit by storms and it's just like sucking balls, um, and they're down like they know, like the best place to go is like the warm water in the uh, near the equator towards south america, and I'm pretty sure this is before there's the, the canal, the panama canal, of course, right, oh yeah, it's uh like I don't think there was anything at the time to get through, like you just got to sail down around.

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But they get told by some guys coming back and they're like, yeah, you got to go on the other side of south america and there's more whales than you can.

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You know, do like like you could throw a stone and it's gonna hit a whale in the water and there was just schools of them, like schools of these whales.

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Just, you know, you'd look out and it was just the, the ocean.

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You know, really did probably have that illusion of like a massive creature's tentacles or a long serpent, because of how many humpbacks and like tails there were and like you wouldn't always see a tail breach so it just looks like this roiling black slick creature, uh, but everyone was just like you know, it's just, it's uh unreal how many whales over there.

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And so they are sailing around and they got to do some repairs because of more storms and stuff.

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One dude abandoned ship.

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One dude at port is like I'm out of here, like this is not a very good hunt so far, but they get around, uh, from the south side of you know, south america, around the tip of, like chile and argentina, and then they're coming back up and as they come back, dude, they, they see it and it is just an insane, like unending pod of whales and they start harpooning them.

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And the way they do this, bro, they drop down like two or three sloops which don't have sails.

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They're just rowers, right, but the rowers, like you, only row to catch, get next to a whale and the whales aren't faster than what you can row like, they just really aren't right.

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And so you would harpoon them and tie the harpoon off to the sloop and you would do two sloops or something because the whale's not strong enough to pull two boats down against buoyancy.

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Okay, so the whale tuckers itself out while it's just thrashing and taking you for a swim and they called it a nantucket sleigh ride because they like, at that point the harpoon's good, it's not going to come loose, right, because you usually have your strongest dude just straight up.

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Yeet, that thing, it's barbed in there.

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Yeah, and it's barbed.

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And then everyone just holds on to the boat so they don't go overboard while they're harpooning.

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And so they get this whale and they've harpooned her and they begin rowing back to the ship.

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And when they get back they find out that the mate of this whale, this sperm whale mate, targeted the Essex and rammed it twice and on the second ramming it, like split open the port side of it and the essex is like sinking, like so the captain's coming back on the sloop with his other guys and everyone on is like dude, we cannot save the ship.

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So they pretty much hop off and like grab all the supplies they can, like tack and stuff for our eating.

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You know, rations, 50 gallons of water and they pretty much split the rest of the crew on these three sloops and they start, uh, trying to do makeshift, uh, makeshift, uh, sales and stuff.

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Because they end up realizing, you know, with their rations of tack and water, if they ration it.

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They got about 60 days, about two months of rations, um, and that they got of.

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They have to like, grow and sail on these little tiny dinghies for about I think it was something crazy like 2600 nautical miles, because everything out there near them, island wise, is totally abandoned, uninhabited islands.

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No one lives on them and and they have nothing really on them other than crabs and seagulls to survive off of.

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And so they start going and they're having a rough time.

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I think before they reach the first island, another dude dies of just dehydration and they throw him overboard, sew him up in his clothes, throw him overboard.

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They throw them overboard, sew them up in his clothes, throw them overboard.

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Uh the tack, because of the whale uh flooding the ship when it dried it was so salty attack being the, uh, the the hard, hard bread.

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Yeah, all right um, and so like that, that tack was like actually dehydrating them more.

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So they kind of were like they stopped eating a lot of it because they were just so starving and getting and it was like sorry they were.

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It was making them so thirsty that they they weren't hungry but they were like and going through the water too quick so they quit it.

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But then they become starving and they get in this island and there's like what's called some kind of I can't remember the weed.

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There's some kind of weed on this island that they can eat, but it's not like a very sustaining nutritious source but it is edible by humans.

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And then there's like crabs and seagulls and three guys are like hey, you know what, go on, we'll stay here.

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Um, but you know, you guys can like, of course, have the water and rations and hopefully you'll survive, but they wasted like they literally wasted like 30 days on this island just like oh hopefully someone comes by and, um, so now they have far less time to make it to chile, and they keep going, and as they go, there's some storm occurs and it separates the three boats from each other, and after they get separated, uh, that's when it turns to all out like, just like drawing lots of matches.

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I'm reading some causes of death here and what happened to these people and it gets a little crazy at this point Shot and eaten.

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That's exactly the person I was referring to.

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So here's the brutal thing that's Owen Coffin.

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Owen Coffin was the cousin or nephew of the captain, and so the four of them were in the boat and they drew lots and Owen drew the shortest.

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It was essentially match heads At this point they had been eating the dead.

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They had been eating the dead and now no one was dying.

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Yeah, because they were like well, we need more to eat if we're going to make it.

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And the captain was like well, this is a conflict of interest and there's like actual, like rules.

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This is the thing that blew joe rogan's mind the most that, um, you know, um micro was getting into, and he's like this wasn't just like made up on the spot, like you have, you get trained in these rules.

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Like there are rules of how, like, if you're marooned or stranded, how to eat the eat everyone, and like you can't force the order of operations for eating it is it?

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is, and it's like you can't force brothers to kill and eat another brother, but like, cousins are okay and stuff like that, so like, but anyways.

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So the captain was like you know, this is not right, I can't do this.

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He's my, he's my nephew and owen, though, had was just like so done and fed up.

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He's a 16 year old kid, by the way.

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Yeah, he's like.

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He is reported of saying to his captain he says I actually quite like my lot, and so then they just had to draw sticks to see who would execute him.

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And then the captain ended up drawing and so he had to execute his own cousin.

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So he just had his cousin look off the one end of the ship, put a musket to the back of his head and pull the trigger and then they ate him.

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But then, just two days later, another one of them fell uh to like dysentery or something like that.

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So they didn't even have to.

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If they just waited two days they wouldn't have had to kill a kid.

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But then they ate that guy and, uh, one ship was found like one of the sloops was found washing up to shore about a month later and there was just bone, clean skeletons in it.

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No one.

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No one else was alive.

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Yeah, the captain and this other guy survived because they were eating, um, one of the one of the guys who had died, and another ship found them and came to help them and they were so insane they thought the ship of dudes was trying to eat, like get their food.

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So they fought them off and they're like what the hell are these guys doing?

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And like you know like what, how do we get them?

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How do we rescue them?

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Cause they're so feral they think we're taking away their food and by and like crazy thing about that would be like they didn't have the acronym PTSD, no Right, so they're like these guys just kind of lost it.

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Scurvy.

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Yeah, but it's like, oh my gosh, I mean, this is what happens when you don't eat oranges.

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Exactly so in for age perspective here those of you out there listening the captain, he was 29.

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His first mate, 21.

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He had a bunch of 20 year olds underneath him.

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I think the youngest kid was 14.

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He had 16 year olds.

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17 year olds, uh, 15 year olds, um.

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So I mean, I mean these young boys these are, these are young, young guys out there, um, in a crazy situation and, uh and, and, like I, as they got divided, there was some who there was, because, as you brought this up, I was thinking to myself well, how did anybody tell the story?

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Well, because Owen Chase gave the.

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That's what the heart of the sea was based on his account Because people survived Eating each other, yeah, from having to do the unthinkable.

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Well, well.

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And so here's the thing too I can't remember how owen chase and his group was saved.

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Uh, I can't remember if they got to shore or if another rescue ship found him, but after they were all recovered and could, like coherently inform their rescuers, they're like hey, there are three guys on this Island called Henderson Henderson Island.

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It's here on the map you got to go save.

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That was the first Island where they left the guys.

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Yeah.

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And they were trying to, so they left part of their group.

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Those guys volunteered.

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It wasn't like they left them.

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They, those guys, nominated themselves to stay behind Right, so go, and if the group that goes gets back, they're gonna come get them, yeah and so, uh, they tell them, in some chileans or argentinian ships come out and go to the island and, like, all three dudes are fine, they haven't eaten each other, they're like very thankful to be rescued, but they weren't about to like die and it was one of those things that was just like so brutal, right, but anyways, that went around and the thing that was just crazy is like there wasn't a documented account before this.

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This is like the first documented account of like whales having vengeance and like it being recorded and written and actual people surviving, and sure, of course, I'm sure this happened more than once, right, it's just no one lived, right, you know, those like sperm whales are massive and I'm sure there were many accounts of sperm whales, you know, turning and taking out a whaling vessel, but because that crew wasn't as fortunate, we just didn't hear about it, but anyway.

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So, yeah, this is what inspired Moby Dick to um.

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Yeah, an audio book of um, the heart of the sea, just because of like.

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You know, it's such a harrowing tale and it's not glorified by any means, right is that the comes from the first mates accounts?

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yeah, okay owens.

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Yep so, and was he on the?

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Was he with the captain?

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No he got separated.

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Okay, but I mean he still ate a couple dudes.

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Yeah, but it's just bonkers, because you like you read stuff like that and then you like read stuff too about just like the other instances of like real life cannibalism that occurred and like I don't know, it's ugly right, it's nasty, but it's also like one of those things that you're like, dude, this is a fact of life.

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Like this happens in every single one of these scenarios of like true, pure desperation and like there's something to be respected about.

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Like people, people only engage in this behavior in the most unreal, unimaginable, desperate conditions.

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Um, and so it like, when this occurs and it's documented, those guys live to tell the tale and they don't hide it.

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They're like, yeah, like you should know it's like.

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It's like because, like they also probably respect the dead and understand like this was an awful thing and you know I wouldn't be here today if, if it wasn't for that final gift they gave me.

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You know what I mean, but I don't know.

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I just have a lot of respect for it.

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I also really enjoyed that.

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Oh, what was it?

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It was a movie about the Argentinian team, I believe a Paraguay team that crashed in the Andes and they had to eat each other to survive.

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It was a soccer team.

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Have you never heard of this story, the soccer team?

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I've heard bits of it.

00:19:10.469 --> 00:19:11.892
Yeah, oh, dude, it's pretty crazy.

00:19:11.892 --> 00:19:17.662
And then you have cases like alfred packer where you're like I don't know, did he eat people to survive or did he eat people because he liked the taste?

00:19:17.982 --> 00:19:32.743
right, yeah, yeah, you got the, got the, the weirdos for sure, and then you do have, you know, these cases of just dire true, pure desperation, yeah and I don't know.

00:19:32.784 --> 00:19:45.093
I guess it's kind of like one of those things like I would if I died, bro, if you and I were like stranded, yeah, and I died, you're, you have 100 permission to eat me to live.

00:19:45.093 --> 00:19:47.395
And also, I would want you to tell people.

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I want you to tell people like, yeah, mick, mick died, he, he, he died not from me clubbing his brains in with the rock.

00:19:53.840 --> 00:20:04.502
He just was injured, fell sick and he told me, hey, no hard feelings, but put, put my leg on that spicig and survive.

00:20:04.502 --> 00:20:14.921
And I'd want you to tell people that, because I feel like that is still a very selfless thing to do and recognize in those scenarios, right, oh yeah.

00:20:16.203 --> 00:20:17.626
And how much do you pay penance to?

00:20:17.707 --> 00:20:17.748
it.

00:20:17.748 --> 00:20:19.592
It's an ethical gray area.

00:20:19.592 --> 00:20:25.086
I have no ethical gray area about it.

00:20:25.086 --> 00:20:26.692
I would eat people for sure In that case.

00:20:27.153 --> 00:20:33.625
In that scenario Without people for sure, like in that case, in that scenario, in that die or need case, especially if they looked at me and they're like I love you, I don't want you to die needlessly.

00:20:33.625 --> 00:20:34.608
Eat me, yeah.

00:20:35.040 --> 00:20:38.490
To quote the gingerbread man from Shrek Eat me.

00:20:38.490 --> 00:20:54.928
That's a good drop button, oh yeah, and so, oh, my god the uh it's uh could you do it, could I?

00:20:56.490 --> 00:20:57.452
what if, like you're just like.

00:20:57.452 --> 00:20:59.903
What if I was like here, I'll pull this shirt over?

00:20:59.943 --> 00:21:00.726
me so you don't have to see.

00:21:00.726 --> 00:21:02.211
It's me, I know, I know, would I?

00:21:02.211 --> 00:21:03.564
No, could I?

00:21:03.564 --> 00:21:05.980
Yes, you know you don't think you would.

00:21:05.980 --> 00:21:07.605
No, I mean I could, like I.

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I don't.

00:21:08.608 --> 00:21:12.000
It's like a, I'm taking the the cop out where it's like.

00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:18.320
I would never do that yeah but I've never been stranded for three months on a dinghy watch them like.

00:21:18.381 --> 00:21:23.861
Use this podcast as evidence against me in court when they're like we bet you killed those people to eat them.

00:21:23.861 --> 00:21:25.744
It's like no, it's truly desperation.

00:21:25.765 --> 00:21:40.829
They're like you said you were looking forward to it oh, my goodness, the uh, yeah, I mean, and I think, short of being in that something, some sort of situation like that, there's no room to dodge.

00:21:40.829 --> 00:22:03.328
And also, if you, if you actually want to get into some ethical, philosophical like type of like stuff and or like if you want to also get into and then add like spirituality into it, be like if you, if you believe that you're dead, dead's dead, there's nothing like, there's a if you, I'd say the in a case of like the souls left the body.

00:22:03.328 --> 00:22:05.313
Yeah, this is a vessel, you know, okay.

00:22:05.313 --> 00:22:16.227
But then there's also, there's also other areas where, for other people though, where it'd be like, let's say, for someone from like a muslim faith background, where it's like you kind of gotta be buried whole to make it out on the back side right

00:22:16.247 --> 00:22:25.079
so there are like it depends on where you come from and well, and like you, you can't, of course, eat people if if you're Jewish, that's a forbidden meat.

00:22:25.079 --> 00:22:35.432
But you know, christians, I think to Peter, or was it Peter, who did God reveal the blanket and say eat consume.

00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:36.986
Yeah, it was Peter, but it didn't have a.

00:22:36.986 --> 00:22:38.731
It said all creatures.

00:22:40.357 --> 00:22:41.243
Oh my goodness, Peter's looking out.

00:22:41.243 --> 00:22:44.247
There there's some man hams, oh my gosh.

00:22:44.307 --> 00:22:45.093
No, dude, I'm just kidding.

00:22:45.340 --> 00:22:57.153
No, but like I am one of those things like I would be like it's okay, it's all right, you're giving a new body, it's all good, you don't need this one, no more I mean I'd be doing some mental gymnastics for sure in the moment and crying about it.

00:22:57.153 --> 00:22:59.020
Yeah right, I'd be like I don't know if you cry.

00:22:59.020 --> 00:23:00.544
You'd be so hungry at that point.

00:23:00.564 --> 00:23:03.829
Oh my gosh thirsty so, yeah, no more tears in there.

00:23:03.829 --> 00:23:05.813
Um, I'd be like god.

00:23:05.813 --> 00:23:09.807
I wish that he had eaten healthier throughout his life, like all these freaking mcdoubles.

00:23:09.888 --> 00:23:13.223
Really no ass on this tainted the quality of this thing.

00:23:13.223 --> 00:23:15.128
Uh, that's funny.

00:23:15.128 --> 00:23:17.474
Um, yeah, no, I do think it's.

00:23:17.474 --> 00:23:19.862
It is fascinating, but I it's.

00:23:19.862 --> 00:23:24.952
It's a different thing to me, like, yeah, it can be morbid, but there's like a I don't know there's.

00:23:24.952 --> 00:23:51.284
I'll say it's not as fascinating to me when you read about, like um, the people who preyed upon the western expansion, um, kind of like pilgrimages, you know, trying to go over the rockies, and there's like legit groups, just like waiting in the winter to eat people in caves, right, like yeah like that stuff is not as like fascinating to me because I'm like, yeah, that's dark, like the dark, depraved stuff yeah, and like I

00:23:51.324 --> 00:23:51.525
do.

00:23:51.525 --> 00:24:02.807
I do want to know about it because like that's, that is a historical thing to show of, like how hard it was at one point and how much our you know ancestors came over and conquered to get out, get past that.

00:24:02.807 --> 00:24:42.532
But like when it's like this one or like you know the story of that soccer team, um, just scenarios where it's like true desperation and selflessness and like people are like, like every it's like, it's like it's not an individual choice but it's a group choice of like this makes sense and I want you to live and I know I'm not going to right and it's okay and like I think, like there's just something about that that there isn't, like there is a nobility in that, like there isn't, there is, like I think it in uh, a selflessness and honor and integrity sacrifice yeah, and you should be in like that should be told and people should know about it.

00:24:43.055 --> 00:24:55.044
So I do, I don't know, I don't want, I don't want to keep on being in a a point here, but like I think that's why it's so fascinating, to me and it's crazy because we live in a different world now where, like I can push a button on my watch, food shows up.

00:24:55.505 --> 00:24:59.452
Well, no, no, no, like like I can push a button on my watch and help shows up.

00:24:59.452 --> 00:25:00.923
That's true too.

00:25:00.923 --> 00:25:07.083
You know what I mean like, and so, versus, I mean there, there was, there's no one coming, no one knows what's happening.

00:25:07.083 --> 00:25:10.191
It's just a crazy like world back then in a wild place.

00:25:10.191 --> 00:25:27.278
And so you know, yeah, we do, we have these resources now and things, and where it's, yes, people can still get into really bad, sticky situations, like, but so, like, the next time something wild like this happens, it's gonna have to be on, like you know, spaceship headed to, like this happens, it's going to have to be on, like you know, spaceship.

00:25:27.298 --> 00:25:27.618
Headed to Mars.

00:25:27.659 --> 00:25:37.564
Exactly Like where it's, like they find you know one guy still sitting there, but there was a lot more who came with them.

00:25:37.564 --> 00:25:41.090
I've seen that movie, yeah, exactly.

00:25:42.192 --> 00:25:46.932
Yeah, no, like where Houston just starts like hey, hey, where's a couple of the other crew?

00:25:46.932 --> 00:25:48.622
Huh, oh, they're sleeping.

00:25:49.344 --> 00:26:17.454
Yeah, um, yeah, anyways, um, welcome again to the make it past show and, as of course you could probably tell by the music, this is our holiday episode of gift giving that we do now Third year, third year of gift exchanging, giving, and I think we could probably go over just a couple of things that we think are of value to you know, a little bit of a gift guide for him.

00:26:17.454 --> 00:26:51.222
I just feel like it's not like it's not going to be, like, you know, mind blowing or a revelation of what you could get, but it is going to give you at least some ideas and especially for anyone who's listening, who's just not in the know of how to save money and things like this for buying gifts for him, there's a lot of ways to do it and do it wisely and money and like what you're purchasing and stuff like that, and not just like get taken advantage of by like the quickest, like online offer or highest ad paid stuff.

00:26:51.263 --> 00:27:13.026
So I think a big one is like of course I'm looking forward to talking about this, but bullets, bullets is something that I hear so many miss like, construe of like how expensive it is to order them or buy them for people as gifts or something, and like it's just because people don't know where to go to get them, like bulk, for cheap and have free shipping.

00:27:13.026 --> 00:27:13.788
You know what I mean.

00:27:13.788 --> 00:27:26.480
So, and we're also not sponsored by, like, I think, anyone we're talking about here um, you can certainly go through our amazon links to, uh, you know, give back to the show for any gifts you get for anyone.

00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:32.153
Um, but I figured we'd just do a little bit of that, so for sure.

00:27:32.153 --> 00:27:42.946
Anyways, before we uh do that, you know, pat, I just wanted to hear how your thankful Thanksgiving was and things like that.

00:27:44.807 --> 00:27:48.510
Yeah, no, the uh uh.

00:27:48.510 --> 00:27:50.833
I just Googled gifts for him.

00:27:50.833 --> 00:27:51.713
I need to back out.

00:27:52.034 --> 00:27:53.335
Yeah, I bet.

00:27:53.335 --> 00:27:54.536
Oh my God, it's lingerie.

00:27:54.916 --> 00:28:08.105
Yeah, my God, anyways, thanksgiving, no, we uh, great Thanksgiving this year, just uh hanging out with, uh, my family, my wife's side of the family, um, and we uh, is that?

00:28:08.125 --> 00:28:10.951
the traditional like always with them for.

00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:14.005
Thanksgiving we do the flip-flop each year, same Typically.

00:28:14.005 --> 00:28:16.309
We flip-flop it and, uh, it was good.

00:28:16.309 --> 00:28:25.993
My uh, uh, brother-in-law and sister-in-law came in from out of town and uh, they uh, which is good, is good because, you know, he used to live with us.

00:28:25.993 --> 00:28:38.346
He was in town, you know, and she was in town, they and then, even like before he's married, lived with us, like super close with him, and been gone for a couple years now and so it's just awesome they're back for a week just hanging out, like it's fun.

00:28:38.346 --> 00:29:04.907
Like there is like we were talking about it last podcast or last time we recorded, but off the podcast, which was like how there can be, like uh, people like just um, tend to regress isn't like necessarily the right word because it sounds uh negative but like when you get back in your family dynamic, you kind of go oh yeah, we did, we did talk about that, like people can return.

00:29:05.068 --> 00:29:35.175
Like you know, you're dating someone for like two years and then, for the first time ever, you go with them back home and you see them become like a teenager, just because they're like in their parents house with their siblings with their siblings and like there's like it's just, it's just immediately like reset, like family dynamic you're're like oh wow, Like I've never seen you behave this way, yeah, and so it's, which is fun too, cause then, like me and him, we just like we're making, we just make jokes, we just go back to college.

00:29:35.276 --> 00:29:37.567
Oh yeah, we just we just mess around and it's great fun.

00:29:37.567 --> 00:29:55.275
And so, uh, it was a good time Uhgiving this year lots of little kids running around the house, wild time and definitely thankful too, they got any yep one and one on the way and so, um, yeah, it's a lots of.

00:29:55.780 --> 00:29:59.750
it's funny because their little boy, is it a little fudge or a little fudgetta um?

00:29:59.750 --> 00:30:05.569
I don't know yet well, what's about the one that's here?

00:30:05.569 --> 00:30:07.863
The one that's here is a little it's a little little fudge.

00:30:08.063 --> 00:30:12.090
Little fudge also looks like middle pat.

00:30:12.090 --> 00:30:12.893
They're like.

00:30:12.893 --> 00:30:18.961
They're like nine months apart and they just run around toeheaded like a little pat yeah, like very, pretty simple.

00:30:18.961 --> 00:30:22.451
Well, yeah, pretty similar, like look, it's like from behind.

00:30:22.451 --> 00:30:24.464
You're like, which one is that?

00:30:24.506 --> 00:30:30.076
like all week we were like yelling one's name and it was the other one, and they was tons of fun together.

00:30:30.076 --> 00:30:35.729
The big fudge marry a blonde haired woman no, isn't big fudge burnett?

00:30:36.150 --> 00:30:37.532
yeah, but he was toeheaded as a kid.

00:30:37.653 --> 00:30:44.268
Oh, he was, yeah, just yeah, and it's and it's not, yeah, not full, not the full blonde either, like both of them.

00:30:44.268 --> 00:30:48.093
Both of them now kind of have like a little bit of dust, a little sandy blonde in there.

00:30:48.093 --> 00:30:50.075
So, yep, yep.

00:30:50.075 --> 00:30:54.328
So it was a good time and uh, it was nice to.

00:30:54.328 --> 00:31:00.803
I mean, I was thankful too, for, like, my work being a business owner comes with ups and downs.

00:31:00.803 --> 00:31:08.492
But the nice thing is too is like when you want to take time off, like you don't have to like request time off, you just you can kind of do it.

00:31:08.492 --> 00:31:11.040
That's sick, so that's, that's still nice.

00:31:11.040 --> 00:31:22.771
And like, as the company grows, I got more like responsibilities, my employees, all that stuff like, but I'm able to also like I don't have to put it like write a request, you know, or anything whatever.

00:31:22.771 --> 00:31:23.653
So yeah.

00:31:24.453 --> 00:31:25.075
That's pretty dope.

00:31:25.075 --> 00:31:29.751
Yeah, you did some traveling or did you just keep it local.

00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:40.807
We just went down to the in-laws but my grandfather came out from Michigan and brought the hunting rifles I purchased and as well as the one he was giving to me.

00:31:40.807 --> 00:31:41.670
Oh nice.

00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:48.381
So I just got three new guns Well, quote, unquote new.

00:31:48.480 --> 00:32:09.720
Two of them are from like the 50s and they're like primo high value man, liquor stock, uh stare and ruger um, and the other one is a hunting rifle that he uh was to me, so I didn't have to pay for that one and I was just very blessed and privileged to have those.

00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:39.193
But also he was there to have Thanksgiving with my in-laws, and my mom joined as well, since she's in the Denver area down there, and it was just great that all of us got to be together and my mom really gets along with uh, my mother-in-law and my father-in-law and my grandfather and my father-in-law probably have more in common than they don't oh yeah you know, I mean, they're both big guys.

00:32:40.276 --> 00:32:49.726
Uh, in their careers, like they both have, you know, worked an insane amount of years in a corporate environment for one company.

00:32:49.726 --> 00:32:53.953
Um, they're both super big ham radio guys.

00:32:53.953 --> 00:32:55.182
You know what I mean.

00:32:55.182 --> 00:33:19.747
Like it's just like, it's just the overlap there of like what they can talk about is endless, um so, um, it was just really cool to just see them and my grandfather just enjoying his time and having so much uh like engagement, you know, and not feeling like there was never really much of a time where I just saw him just sitting and just waiting for excuse me someone to talk to him, right so and I just love him.

00:33:19.988 --> 00:33:24.722
you know I feel like I just don't get to see him as much because he lives in Michigan and stuff.

00:33:24.722 --> 00:33:30.048
But it was just a huge privilege and blessing and everyone gets along.

00:33:30.048 --> 00:33:35.935
Everyone was, like, you know, a couple beers deep and there was just laughter.

00:33:35.935 --> 00:33:38.223
You know what I mean.

00:33:38.223 --> 00:33:40.431
There was no trauma drama drama or tension.

00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:42.866
So, yeah, it was a blessing.

00:33:42.866 --> 00:33:43.784
I was very thankful for it.

00:33:43.784 --> 00:33:45.301
Man, I just looked around at that table.

00:33:45.301 --> 00:33:55.868
I'm like I'm thankful that I love my in-laws, I'm thankful that they love me and my family, and like that this is not a a burden yeah, it's.

00:33:56.028 --> 00:34:28.695
It's helpful when you have like good inter-in-law relations, you know, and you can just have a fun time and and also and I love, I love, like big family events, especially when I was like little into, like, just like to me, thanksgiving should be as many people as possible yeah it's a big like christmas, like a little bit, you can like you can like shrink it down, like have that christmas morning, but like I think that the best Thanksgivings are when it's like full bore.

00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:33.592
See, I think my in-law family, my wife's side, I think it's the opposite.

00:34:33.592 --> 00:34:38.693
I think their Christmases are always bigger because people view it as more significant.

00:34:38.693 --> 00:34:41.369
So they travel out to visit, right.

00:34:41.559 --> 00:35:00.021
So Christmas is like a whole house full of like the Billie jeans, right, and Thanksgiving is like less so like they're they're more okay with doing Thanksgiving apart and like you know very where the different different Billie Jean families, uh, uh, you know, are spread across the country and stuff.

00:35:00.021 --> 00:35:00.722
It's a.

00:35:00.722 --> 00:35:04.581
It's just one of those things where, like, I agree with you, but their christmases are massive.

00:35:04.581 --> 00:35:05.605
Yeah, you know what I mean.

00:35:05.844 --> 00:35:07.376
yep, yep, no for sure.

00:35:07.376 --> 00:35:09.661
That's good, that's good.

00:35:09.661 --> 00:35:12.967
The holiday season is upon us and I'm I'm enjoying it.

00:35:12.967 --> 00:35:15.579
So far it's a spent.

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:15.880
Uh.

00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.302
We're just in full swing for a little while here, which is nice as winter kicks in to just uh.

00:35:22.302 --> 00:35:22.922
It's funny too.

00:35:23.003 --> 00:35:29.208
Every this this time of year comes faster every year it does, man, and I'm starting to freak out a little bit.

00:35:29.208 --> 00:35:33.244
Oh yeah, like I'm trying to comprehend that it's december.

00:35:33.244 --> 00:35:35.648
November felt long to me.

00:35:35.648 --> 00:35:44.925
I think it just felt long because of, like you know, things to do with work and the season changes, and november was like the first time it got actually kind of cold enough that I didn't want to go outside.

00:35:44.925 --> 00:35:54.206
I also got a dog, yeah, um and uh, but December, just being here feels like crazy fast.

00:35:54.206 --> 00:35:56.039
Oh yeah, I still think it's 2023.

00:35:56.340 --> 00:36:07.871
Yeah, no shit, we did lose a whole year, um, but anyways, all that said, we did lose a whole year, but anyways, all that said, things are great, thankful for a lot.

00:36:08.072 --> 00:36:38.034
Thanksgiving was good, and you know what, Pat, even though sometimes when I text you, you don't respond for days, it makes me feel like there's nails scratching at the back of my brain and I'm trying, I'm just trying not to, I'm just trying not to lose my shit, um, and even though you know, I don't know what else I'm trying.

00:36:38.034 --> 00:36:46.726
I'm trying to find another reason to complain about you, um, all, despite all that, um, I'm trying to find another reason to complain about you.

00:36:46.726 --> 00:37:00.809
Despite all that, I'm thankful for you, buddy, and I got you some gifts and I hope this holiday season you feel appreciated because I did ball out a little bit, oh man.

00:37:00.809 --> 00:37:03.914
I did ball out a little bit, oh man.

00:37:03.914 --> 00:37:15.577
Now, within there's not a new 6R 320 Legion to fix your broken one, which, honestly, I was thinking about that today.

00:37:15.577 --> 00:37:21.083
I was like I should have just bought him a new trigger, oh yeah, I get that thing looked at Dude.

00:37:21.123 --> 00:37:29.431
I literally have like five magazines waiting for you to fix that gun so I can give them to you and you can actually shoot.

00:37:30.331 --> 00:37:30.831
That's true.

00:37:32.795 --> 00:37:33.416
I got to get it up and running.

00:37:33.416 --> 00:37:47.168
Our buddy, rice-a-roni, has technically acquired them for us, but anyways, did I purchase your gifts because they were such good deals on these items that I also bought them for myself?

00:37:47.168 --> 00:37:48.490
Yes, yes, I did.

00:37:48.490 --> 00:37:54.527
Did I go through this box and hand select what was mine and what was yours?

00:37:54.527 --> 00:37:59.282
Yes, but still within this box is likely.

00:37:59.282 --> 00:38:18.474
I'm going to say in the ballpark of and this is not to put any pressure, because I also know that you got me a gift too- it's not about the monetary value it's crazy how we cancelled each other out last year, literally got each other just like gun props we got.

00:38:18.596 --> 00:38:24.061
We ordered from the same website if you haven't heard the episode.

00:38:24.061 --> 00:38:27.666
It's these prop guns, but these historical.

00:38:27.686 --> 00:38:28.047
It's funny.

00:38:30.135 --> 00:38:33.585
It's these fake guns, but they look real, they feel real, you can play with them, you can pull the trigger.

00:38:34.056 --> 00:38:37.826
You can put them on the wall and stuff and not worry about someone breaking in and stealing a gun.

00:38:37.945 --> 00:38:40.521
Yep, which is why we got them for the studio.

00:38:40.521 --> 00:38:52.427
Yep, and we, uh, which is why we got them for the studio, and we, um which a side note, since I do lease this place um, they had to come in to like do an inspection the other day just like you know, and I was like, oh my God, we have.

00:38:52.427 --> 00:38:55.418
Like it looks like we have an arsenal in the office.

00:38:55.418 --> 00:38:56.521
I was like I gotta put these away.

00:38:56.561 --> 00:39:09.775
That's when you just grab this little mat prop and you just keep on like thumbing it and letting the hammer down slowly and you just keep doing it over and over until they like, and they're like, oh, okay, like well, uh, I'm just kidding, don't do that.

00:39:09.775 --> 00:39:10.097
Don't.

00:39:10.777 --> 00:39:22.077
Don't harass people with fake guns, don't harass the sweet like lady realtor property manager, it's honestly how you go to jail, um, but, uh, but, yeah, it's funny because we pulled them out and it was the same shaped box, right?

00:39:22.077 --> 00:39:22.458
Yeah, that was hilarious.

00:39:22.458 --> 00:39:23.135
Uh-huh, it was funny because we pulled them out and it was the same shaped box.

00:39:23.135 --> 00:39:24.755
Yeah, that was hilarious.

00:39:26.019 --> 00:39:29.244
It was like I think you opened yours first, didn't you?

00:39:29.244 --> 00:39:31.880
Or did we, because I had it wrapped up.

00:39:33.077 --> 00:39:33.699
They were both wrapped.

00:39:33.699 --> 00:39:41.983
I think we might have gone same time, oh that was so funny we had Billy, our guest.

00:39:41.983 --> 00:39:43.768
Billy, I had to look at the board was he here?

00:39:43.768 --> 00:39:55.360
Billy was here for that, talking rock climbing, yep, yep, and so, uh, he was here for that well, anyways, um, I do think it's about probably two hundo ish all right now.

00:39:55.800 --> 00:40:07.219
I don't know that for the most part, but it's just because I know the order was like they, like it's going to be one and done and gone, like super utility gift.

00:40:07.940 --> 00:40:13.119
A five-gallon can of gasoline yes, but that's not really.

00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:24.005
That's not a bad gift, but that's not really what you're after, sure, and that might not feel sentimental, but I'll tell you what, bro, if someone got me a five-gallon can like a jerry can, I'd be stoked.

00:40:24.527 --> 00:40:24.768
Oh yeah.

00:40:24.914 --> 00:40:26.061
Those things are so expensive.

00:40:26.061 --> 00:40:27.661
Like I got you this can and it's full.

00:40:28.596 --> 00:40:29.657
Oh, that would be insane.

00:40:31.280 --> 00:41:03.795
That's what I was saying, just like, honestly yeah, first gift idea Buy the man in your life a like true aluminum jerry can that can stack and has two carry handles on it and fill it up with gas and give it to them and be like oh yeah, by the way, here's some stabilizers and put it underneath the tree next to the fire, next to like those old, old, vintage leds not leds so here's the thing.

00:41:03.795 --> 00:41:07.641
Also, though, billie Jean put something in here, and I don't know what it is.

00:41:08.175 --> 00:41:10.023
And it was a gift for the Mick and Pat show.

00:41:10.023 --> 00:41:11.018
Oh my goodness.

00:41:11.018 --> 00:41:18.478
So no pressure on Mace Windu to, like you know, give us a gift too, but I guess we'll see what it is.

00:41:18.478 --> 00:41:19.101
It might suck.

00:41:19.101 --> 00:41:20.197
What if it's?

00:41:20.217 --> 00:41:20.478
like just.

00:41:20.518 --> 00:41:27.585
Billie Jean, and it's just like literally a receipt for like how in the red, this podcast is like congratulations.

00:41:27.987 --> 00:41:31.300
Like a picture of her face and it's like I expect this to be like on the table.

00:41:31.481 --> 00:41:33.835
Yeah, I'd be fine that's true, it could be great.

00:41:33.835 --> 00:41:35.699
It's not like we film this, live we.

00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:37.563
Everything is anonymized, but all right.

00:41:37.563 --> 00:41:38.987
So I want you.

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What do you want?

00:41:40.096 --> 00:41:40.195
to do.

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