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Few things are more humbling than watching yourself "die" repeatedly during tactical training. That's exactly what happened when we gathered a group of friends for an intensive Close Quarters Battle (CQB) course at our headquarters.
The first and most crucial lesson we learned? Thresholds kill. Those doorways, windows, and transitions between spaces are where most operators meet their end – hesitating for even a millisecond can be fatal. We Break down some real-world footage of trained professionals making fatal mistakes in doorways, bringing home the stark reality that Hollywood-style room clearing is pure fantasy.
As we progressed through increasingly complex scenarios, adding hostile combatants armed with gel blasters, we discovered just how challenging CQB truly is. Even our highly experienced instructors "died" repeatedly during demonstrations. The most sobering realization? John Wick wouldn't survive the first scene of his own movie.
Beyond the tactical skills, the greatest value came from developing the right mindset under stress. Learning to maintain clear thinking, make quick decisions, and adapt when plans inevitably collapse proved far more valuable than any specific technique. While most civilians will never need offensive CQB skills, the mental training translates to numerous emergency scenarios.
The weekend left us with newfound respect for those who perform these operations professionally – and a healthy dose of realism about our own capabilities when bullets start flying through walls.
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01:37 - Threshold Dangers in CQB
12:33 - What We Learned in CQB Training
20:36 - Analyzing Real-Life CQB Failures
33:14 - Civilians vs Military Training Approaches
45:38 - Weapon Selection for Practical CQB
01:07:42 - Mindset Over Marksmanship
01:16:27 - Final Thoughts on Training Value
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so I was watching this video, uh-huh.
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All right, actually I'm just gonna send it to you because I have it, I have it in my messages on my phone here somewhere and you can just uh take a look here.
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Actually, it's probably even just easier to uh play it on my phone here for you.
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But, um, it's just a compilation video of uh, uh, like in a short it's like I don't know, maybe 30 seconds, but it's a it's dudes dying in the threshold, um, and for people who are listening, who don't understand, um, the threshold is any transitory space, uh, such as a doorway, a window, things like that, and there is this compilation.
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Now, I can't, of course, find it right, because YouTube is going to be a pain in my butt, but it was just essentially law enforcement getting stuck in the threshold at times and not moving, or some CQB military operations that were recorded and they were not moving through the threshold effectively and getting killed, and it's not like super graphic, like it doesn't show you, like you know, people dying.
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Well, I mean, it kind of does.
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But like you don't see them bleeding, yeah, that's the thing is like you could tell like they lost because they panicked and hesitated before going in threshold, and a lot of people don't realize that they're doing it.
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And that was one thing like I learned from our cqb course was that there's two or three times where I was told like hey, like the first time I was like I was told like hey, you paused for quite a bit in that threshold and no one died, but you could have died.
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And then the second time I hesitated for like a millisecond but it was still like hey, you know, that would have, that could have cost you your life in that moment.
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And then the third time, I did hesitate and I got hit with a what are these orbeez with the gel blaster, the gel blast, the gel blaster got me and it was like not even a real, real hesitation.
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You know, I mean it was so brief, but I it was like it was a brief of like okay, wait, that's a, that's a no shoot.
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Turn, that's a no shoot and that step in and it all this happens in the span of like a tenth of a second right and then that step in.
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After that momentary hesitation, even though I was on the move again is when I got hit, um, and if I had just pushed in and move, kept moving and dealt with threat assessment after the fact, I wouldn't have been hit because I would have seen the dude with the gel blaster shooting me.
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But anyways, the part of that was, at one point I was stacked up behind you, pat, and I was pushing on you and I was like, get in, get in.
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Get in, because you realize too, when you're last being on stack you can't help secure anything until the dude in front of you is through that threshold Right, especially on a 180 threshold like this office is.
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Yeah, for sure, and so I just wasn't ready to die.
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But I will walk you through my thinking on it.
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For sure.
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Yeah, as we were running these drills, going through, I do think guys were either pushing through the threshold way too fast or way too slow, meaning I guess my thought process on this one was because I wasn't standing in the threshold as I hadn't cleared it yet and I wanted to get an angle to see coming in.
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So I was a third man, we had first man in, second man in, third man in and what I noticed, lots of us were trying to just get through the door as fast as possible.
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Noticed lots of us were trying to just get through the door as fast as possible, which, once you make, I was in my mind, what I was trying to do is, once you make that decision or step to go through the threshold, to move through the door.
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That is when, yes, that has to be like a hundred percent speed, like once you've committed you, you got to move through it.
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But what was happening in some of these drills was we would say you know, one, two, three go and first, second, third guy would bust through there and I'll just die, cause they were just like they would just run in the room, versus like any sort of um, like you can take an angle on a door and peek and see and then pie a little and then push through into a room.
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And so I was.
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That was kind of that's where I was.
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I was trying to move slower and then, at that point of moving through, once we moved through I don't know if I did or didn't move through fast, but that was, that was my active thought process.
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Now, what my body was actually doing I don't know, because this was so new to all of us.
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You have what you think you're doing and then you have the replay and you're like oh, I thought I was doing something totally different.
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And so that's where, for CQB in general, I just hear a lot of guys say like it's a lot slower than you always think.
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Now, standing in the door, you will die if there's somebody right to engage you.
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So that, which is where you know it sounds like there's lots of these the video you're referring to where you have people getting hung up in the door.
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So like, um, and in this specific room, corner fed room, we could see one, we could see one angle straight down, but we couldn't see the deep side of the room.
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So it's actually, and it's a really, actually a really hard room to clear because you can't get an angle, especially with the curtains, with the curtains and with the wall.
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The door is against the corner on the wall, so you can't.
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It's against the wall on the excuse me on the right side.
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You can't move any further right?
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Just try to see videos of what I was doing versus what I thought I looked like I was doing in my head.
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You know what I mean.
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Mm-hmm.
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But yeah, and what we're talking about is what we're going to be talking about kind of probably the rest of the evening, which is CQB, close quarters, combat and really fun training that we got to do this past weekend.
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Yeah, it was really sick.
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And, to your point, pat, I had no real firearm CQB training.
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I had done stuff with the sheriff department for going in and doing stuff within the jail and you got your essentially riot armor riot gear on and maybe you got a 40 mil for firing tear gas, but everyone else just has shields and baton and assumably now this isn't not you can't 100, but assumably nobody with rifles pointed back at you or handguns.
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But you know what I mean you're, you're, it's a different approach I think it requires the governor giving approval before any individual can go in right.
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Sorry, and I mean, but I mean the person you're trying to take down.
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Oh yeah, no one I'm trying to take down has a gun, probably.
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So the approach is similar but different in that.
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Yeah, so the training to your point which you're saying is where the you've had that kind of training where you're stacked up on people.
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There's a procedure and a way to move through it.
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But then the firearm piece with the bad guys and the good guys, having them really changes.
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I mean it's it's crazy, I and I'm curious.
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I never got to be the opponent, I never got to be the terrorist oh yeah and you got to be the, you got to be the hostiles quite a bit.
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Oh yeah, that's.
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That's the best and I'm sure, the perspective of being from the hostel to then being like on a team stacked up to go in is radically different oh, yeah, like, I would say like, uh, and we'll get into more of like how we, maybe the progression, how we trained what we did, but like, honestly, like I'd have killed everybody every time, yeah, as the hostile.
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Sure, just from the like you have, just from just the advantage of being set in a position, pointed at a three foot wide threshold door, where someone's coming through in a threshold and it's and that's where cqb is scary and very, very, very, very hard to do, um, especially if you, your opponent, is aware, you're aware you're coming through there and armed, or E and or equally armed to what you're doing, and so the um, and if you're into, we'll get into it more.
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But if you're in a more of like a civilian environment versus a, uh, you know, tactical war environment where you have things like grenades and overwatch and thermals, all these other things that like you're, like you know that you're using, so uh, it's, uh, I was surprised how bad I was at it, I think everybody was.
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You know what I mean?
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I think everybody, regardless of even people who had done it before, were surprised at like.
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I mean, that was one thing we did do like I remember we did it a couple times with our trainers stacked up with us.
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We did do like I remember we did it a couple times with our trainers stacked up with us.
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The trainers died just as much as we did right, for as cool as f and cqb bro, for as cool as they looked doing the demonstrations.
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Yeah, right, and they did look smooth, they did look good, but it's just.
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That's why, like, I mean the guys I've talked to who have done the done the real deal, they're like it's scary every time yeah, and it takes a lot, takes a lot of guts to go through there every time you do it before I forget hey, ken, welcome to the show.
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Uh, if you're listening, we appreciate you.
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Um, if you're not tracking what's going on, we did a close quarters combat training.
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Uh, here at the headquarters, where we had ourselves and a good, oh, probably another 15 homies plus a couple instructors, show up and run through the course together, and the instructors were all former military.
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Three of them were like former airborne and did you know the real stuff training for it in afghanistan, um, and then two others, I believe I can't remember what their mos were, but they had worked together in like um two-man cqb teams and such like that.
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So, uh, guys with some like real, like real skills and stuff, um, and could actually properly assess you and give you feedback on, you know, a legitimate, almost like one-on-one thing, because we were running teams entering in of like either four man or five man teams entering in, and then you'd have pretty much three to five instructors watching and reviewing what you did and you'd pretty much almost always get one-on-one feedback of like, hey, this is what you did, this is what you did, good, this is what you did that got you killed, stuff like that.
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But anyways, here is the video that you can play and it immediately starts off with a bang.
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Bro, this is an ATF guy with an MP5 trying to get in through a curtained window, and you can tell he's ATF not only by his like stuff, but also by how poorly trained he is Gosh.
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Yeah, let's see here, oh man oh.
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Yep, yep, yep.
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Where were those other?
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shots coming from.
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Were they through the wall?
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Through the wall?
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Yeah, we'll.
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We'll scroll through these videos, kind of um and kind of break them down a little bit, just from what we learned.
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But I just wanted pat to see like these threshold videos, because it does.
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It does show what we were being taught and even though we didn't see anything like this of course you can't learn this while being taught the course you see it applied and you're like, oh, shoot, okay, I can see how what they were training us, if you fail to do it leads to people dying.
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Yeah, and the other part not knowing about.
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oh, yeah, that cop just got shot in the head, and then the other guy just ran away.
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Yep, that dude just ran, ran away, by the way don't stack up outside of giant massive windows in the daylight and the other thing people don't, people forget about is like just that stuff goes through walls so easily yeah you know, yeah, the wind, I mean, that's the thing is like a window is not going to stop a bullet from hitting you, but people, people, treat windows like they're.
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What is it Cover instead of concealment?
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Right, right.
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So yeah, it's a I'll say the way especially that second group moved.
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It's surprising, especially that second group moved.
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it's surprising like I don't want to say, like maybe we were moving better, I don't mean I was told by the end of day that the improvement on everyone's part was pretty massive, um, and I just sent you these so you can kind of scroll through them with me and, uh, you know, perhaps I'll our editor craig, will have these videos in the in the podcast video this week.
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That's a good point, um, but, um, first one up is, of course, like, there's this atf guy hanging out front right.
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I feel like this is just a good place to start to kind of break through, like cqb training, what we learned right, but, um, he's on a roof outside of a window.
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He's start to kind of break through, like cqb training, what we learned right, but, um, he's on a roof outside of a window.
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He's trying to pull a curtain back so he can see inside and decide if he wants to go in or not.
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And the whole thing is whoever's in that room, because this guy's outside in daylight is clearly seeing a silhouette of someone with an mp5 trying to get in through that window.
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And they just start firing rounds off through the wall and I assume the rounds are further back initially, because they're assuming there's other dudes stacked up with them and you start seeing the rounds.
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The first couple rounds go off behind him totally oblivious.
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He's like damn, there's gunshots.
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Boom, gets hit in the shoulder and he goes down covering his face while more rounds are flying through right.
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And it's one of those things of like this guy's really lucky that the guy thought I'll throw these first seven rounds through the wall where the other dudes are stacked up.
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He had a clean ladder slide.
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It was a pretty clean slide down.
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He was getting the heck out of there I think this just shows if there's anything the ATF practices, it's retreating.
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This just shows if there's anything the ATF practices, it's retreating.
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The second video is these police stacked up outside of like an apartment condo and there's three of them bunched up.
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They break a door down and they're pying from and this is what they're training us in CQB.
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Right, this is what they really went over and we got to see firsthand.
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When one of the instructors was like hey, I'm gonna pie this corner so you guys can see what happens and he was the he immediately got domed by a gel blaster right in the face, right in the face, and went down it out and, like he literally said, when he went down, he's like this is an example of why you don't want to always pie, especially if you're looking from a bright environment into a dark environment and pying, being like the layman term, would be like just holding your gun up and like kind of moot, like you know, moving left to right, looking slow around the door yeah, yeah, if you think of the door as a threshold and the door is open now you can only see so much.
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If you're standing flush against the wall and if you slowly come off the wall an inch to your left or right whichever direction would move you across the front of the doorway you're going to see a little bit more of the room, like every step, every inch, and that's slicing it.
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You're, you're getting a slice of this 180 degree field of view beyond the door and it's advantageous actually to pie corners and pie doors when you believe you know you're probably searching for someone, but there could be hostiles or like search and rescue scenarios because you don't know what could be over there, such as like debris or an animal or something like that.
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And Pine the Door is also really excellent.
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And especially like in a scenario where you know you have one threat and they're like in the corner of the room and you already have a positive ID on them and you're just making sure okay, are there any other civilians, any other like you know other non-hostels that might be in the area?
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And I would say it's even more advantageous if you're imagine standing outside a house or a warehouse, so it's not creepy and they have their garage bay open and the light's on inside and you're out and it's dark out.
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They outside, they can't see you, they just see the light, you know, spilling out into the first 10 feet of their driveway.
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But you can go across the full, you know, uh breadth of that, uh, transition that opening, that threshold and you can get a lot of like, you can essentially see a lot of what's going on without having to expose and reveal yourself.
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When you're a pine, from the bright side into the dark side, you're just a silhouette and good luck seeing something when your eyes are used to like the really bright, like exterior or interior, right.
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So uh and that's what happens in the second video.
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Yeah, and in this case of this video too, like he wasn't pushed far enough, like he was standing in the middle of the door, so, like pine too, like, go ahead.
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He wasn't pushed all the way to the to be where he needed to be, either.
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Like, I mean it's a wall so he doesn't really have cover.
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But yeah, he had no real concealment he's right, but I mean, but I mean and silhouetting himself completely as that door opens up.
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He's just standing in the middle versus he either needed to switch that rifle over so that it's first.
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Also because that's the thing too, there's methods to all this too where this guy he stuck his head out, head around first, versus his head's getting visual before his rifle is yeah Right, versus switching or pushing over to the side, it's like, yeah, it's hard to know what to do Because it's a bad situation.
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I'll tell you what they should have done.
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Send a dog.
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I think the most obvious thing here is that they ram that door with a Battery ram.
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No one goes in and everyone's hesitating and everyone's choked up and they should have rushed that room all four of them they, they needed it.
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Yeah, because it's clear the shooter here wasn't ready to take that shot until he felt real good about it right, it's a go or no.
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Go like yeah, and that's where the the same thing, where, like, once you're, once you're in the door, you need to go in yep, I mean, and I've seen stuff also too where, like they'll'll do something to distract or even just corner, fire one of these windows out and toss a flashbang or a smoke or anything in, just to grab someone's attention right as you cross threshold and go in through the door.
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Oh for sure, and the fact that they open this and no one goes in there's a ton of hesitancy Again because the door's closing on them.
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Yeah, they don't really officially have someone in charge of the door or someone who's pushed all the way to the side.
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And watching this video too, like we were saying at the beginning of the show, it's like I'd like to see what I looked like versus what I thought I was doing.
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Hey, the video's on its way out.
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But yeah, that's true.
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That's true, doing a lot of editing right now, but, like the um, in this guy's case you know he's doing his thing.
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He's thinking about a billion things.
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He probably thinks he's on it, he's not.
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No, from somebody like me who's really has zero experience watching it going.
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Here's five things.
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He did wrong.
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Sure, you know, and so like the, but in general standing in the door also bro who ran away.
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That's the thing too.
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Man is like if you all push in, it's a lot harder for your homies to leave you.
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Yeah.
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You know, what I mean.
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If you're all in that room together with a mindset of like we're pushing in, we're getting this guy, then like you're less likely to probably leave one of your homies up there to die and abandon them.
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Uh.
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The next video, though, is a classic one of like standing in the threshold exchanging fire back and forth and then, rather than committing and going forward or falling back, dude just stands behind a wall, and that wall is not explosive, bruce, and uh, that was something we did, where I remember a lot of people were like kind of some people huff and puffed, but uh, it was when we were doing two four-man stacks and one of the stacks went up the stairs here to the office and then they hit the door and the instructor's like you're all dead and like why he's like it's a bomb.
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It was a scenario of like a bomb or explosive on the other side of the door which, yeah, it's like cheating.
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It was like, well, we're not doing bomb defusal today, but the purpose of that was to simulate.
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Can the team who first came in and secured, then now transition to fill and secure the upstairs, because everyone who was supposed to secure the upstairs just got freaking, you know, became a casualty.
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Yeah, and it was also a point made of, like when we were practicing breaching and, uh and um, examining the door before going in, it was one of those things that made it like if you lean up or touch that door too much or knock on it or hit the handle too much, testing to see if it's unlocked, there's a good chance you're just going to start taking rounds through the freaking sheet metal.
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Or if you accidentally test that door handle and open the door and it is tripped or something you just now tripped, explosive, and you're all boned.
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And it was just one of those things that I was like, wow, okay, like there's a lot that, like we are going over that.
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I saw a couple eye rolls at that day and now I'm seeing this footage.
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I'm like, damn bro, like it's actually, like it can be like that in some environments not an environment I foresee myself getting into.
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Right, here's my thing.
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I never, I never, ever, ever want or plan to right and because it's that's.
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It's on the offensive side too it is on the offensive side and I can't even think like.
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I'm thinking like somehow if I'm alive in a world without rule of law.
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You know we're talking end of the world as we know it, stuff, and our women have been kidnapped and they're in some house or cave and we have to go get them back.
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I think that's the only way I can see myself doing cqb, otherwise I'm like they have to eat and get water too.
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We'll just pick them off there.
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You know what I?
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mean, like I'm just, I just I'm trying to run through my head like a real scenario where I'm like, oh you know, it's a matter of time, carpet dpe, diem, first one to get action, is going to win this and clean them out.
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Like no way, dude, you go.
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Even if it's like three Bubba Fuds with hunting rifles and shotguns, you try going into that house with an equal force or less.
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I highly doubt you're clear John Wick is not real.
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That was the biggest thing I learned from CQB.
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Right, it's like there is no universe where John Wick lives in the first movie or the first, the first scene yeah, come into his house.
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Yeah, yeah, and so yeah, definitely, and I will say the the more.
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The most applicable stuff about this is the mindset ability to, in the moment, um, make the right choices.
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Not get panicky, do you know?
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Be able to keep your head on your, on your shoulders.
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But then also you could say the other most like applicable thing would be clearing your own house from the inside.
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For sure, that'd be like a home intruder and you're like Gosh damn, my kids are in the basement.
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I need to go floor to floor until I get to them Exactly that would be the most Applicable for like the actual Style or method of like.
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You know that movement through something Cause I'll be honest.
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If a home intruder came to my house Now and Billy Jean and I are in bed, you're just gonna lock the door and call the cops and sit barricaded until either they come through that door and they get smoked or I might whistle for Takani to come up, yeah but like you know you know, I would call her up, and if she doesn't respond, then I'm like all right, they killed my dog.
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I'm smoking people.
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Or she's asking them to pet her.
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Yeah, yeah, that's true, uh, but it is one of those things where, like, even if there's a home intruder, do I see myself doing cqb?
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not unless I can't like I might between you and a loved one unless they're between you and something you need.
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Yeah, like a gummy bear or like've got leftovers.
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I've got leftover steak in that fridge, be damned.
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You're not taking my steak.
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You're not taking my Dungeons and Dragons Exactly, I will say the real world applicability of what we were doing is going to be very rare, very, very rare, unless you really seek out a lifestyle where you're, unless you're law enforcement right exactly like that's what I'm saying.
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We're seeking that out, and even then, like we just see so many videos of these law enforcement guys who shouldn't be doing it.
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Yeah, or?
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just got no good reason, or you just never end up in that situation, hopefully, right, right and so, um, I think, when I talk to law enforcement or military guys, really the guys who I think are really have matured through this.
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They're on the back end of the coolness of it, but y'all, to be honest, I'm on the front end of the coolness of it.
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Yeah, like this is sick, I think it's dope.
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I want to keep on practicing.
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I never want to have to do it in real life exactly.
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But the guys who are on the back side of it, who are really like been there, done that type of stuff, like yeah they always.
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The one word they always tell to me is mindset, like, mindset, mindset, like.
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I don't care how good you are at your marksmanship or you're like it like any skill you have, like I really don't care what you have, but your mindset in a situation is the, and your ability to maintain that mindset in a high stress environment is the number one thing that is most important and most looked for and needs to be most trained.
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And I think what's cool about that is you can take this thing that I think is fun and cool to do and you know, clearing through a warehouse and actually stress test yourself to a point where just other areas of life also you can like it's not seeing a shoot, no, shoot target, it's also being like all right, there was a four car pile up, I just came up on the scene and I'm not losing my shit.
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Yeah, like that kind of like, like that mindset ability, you know, and I think that's the most valuable thing to take away from doing these trainings um, and the most, uh, I'd say, short of.
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If you find yourself in the situation, then yeah, good to have all of it, but the most likely case of needing these things would be just your mental state and ability to cope in the moment.
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That being said, I do still kind of think it's cool and I like doing it.
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It is really, really sick.
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If, like people who just don't know like what the hell we're talking about, just watch a couple forward observation cqb videos and you'll see what it looks like when you are like very, very highly trained, squared away and working with a team, and even in a couple of his cqb videos, instructors are correcting him and his team on things that would have gotten guys killed or something right.
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Um, and we are, that's like what.
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What you see in those videos are professorate level expertise and what you see like what we did is like elementary to maybe I think we got to middle school.
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I think we got to middle school by the end of the day I think we showed up to orientation, depending on your like, like high school orientation, no.
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I think we showed up to like the.
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This is what this is like meaning.
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Like, I think, because it you don't even think we got.
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We got out of fifth grade.
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Well, it depends on what like we're, what we're judging by.
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Sure, I'm talking about?
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I guess I think what I'm talking about is understanding of what it is, how to do it and how to recognize what went wrong and where to improve.
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Recognize what went wrong and where to improve.
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And that's where I do think, if we're taking like a large scale, like 30,000 foot view on this, I think that was a weekend training camp before you go trial for football and like because here's what I'll say, what kind of football are we talking about?
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I'm saying this is before you like, because let me break this down just real quick, because for folks like you hear things like SEAL, team 6, you hear things like Delta Force, you hear things like HRT, that's the FBI's hostage rescue team.
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And then you hear things like boiling down even way further, it'd be like SWAT, whatever.
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So, like those big three I just talked about, basically their job is cqb, like that is the time like that that's their own like, so.
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So whenever you hear like nowadays, it used to not be, but that's that's where war is at currently because what we've moved to with it, so meaning, like these guys who are the pinnacle of this, of you know any anything that's cool stuff?
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Those are the teams who are on it.
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They're doing cqb, and cqb is their mission.
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Like there is like, there is such a specific like that's not even how you fight a war, like now it's a piece of how you fight a war, but like, so like it's such a tiny little scalpel or like, like microscopic, like tool in the bag of war fighting.
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But those, those teams get the most recognition and the most like um, like more, or like you know, prestige, right, and so like um, if we're going on that level of like, of like, of like, what does it take to be?
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If you want to be in the most elite quote unquote groups in American military, you gotta be the best CQB here on on the planet.
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So, so now, taking that now.
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So that's when I say like, that's when I say we showed up to.
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That's NFL.
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Right, I think we did elementary school.
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Right, yeah, and so I think I do think also, I'd say, compared to your average Joe out there, we leveled up, but just to be like, there is still like there's guys who like, even taking out all those Big three teams, there's just guys who eat, sleep and breathe this whole thing, and I think that we got a really cool peek into the, into that world, you know.
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And so like, like, and now, from here, if you want to keep doing it, now it's time to.
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Now you progress, now you learn, now you break it down into tinier little, you microanalyze this, that and the other.
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You get good at you know where, literally, taking one step through a doorway could have 50 things you did wrong.
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Okay, now we're going to break that down, break that down, break that down, break that down.
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And so, like the, I do think, from where we started that day when we came in in, now we do have a understanding of the process, how it works, what we do, but it's just like one.
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Obviously reps are important, but then two, doing them good, is important, and so I think, depending on how you look at it, yes, we got like our, I think we got through elementary school with it, like to your point, but then also like to this other, like what that the world of cqb means.
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There is still like a a lot to do.
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If you want to like keep moving through that, oh for sure, yeah, that's what I'm saying and like, I think, like, because I, I think it elementary school is pretty much like cool, you showed up with a, you showed up with the tools.
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Now let's just get to the point where you're not actually like I think elementary school.
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Now let's just get to the point where you're not actually like I think elementary school is like can we get to the point where you're not killing your homies with the tools, where you're not causing the, where you're not a hiccup and like you know how to do it and you know like, okay, the only way anyone's dying is if the bad guys get us right, because now we're squaring away enough that we know the process and the maneuver and what the rules are and how to identify where to fill in, and I would say most people graduate in elementary school at the end of that day, yeah, and for where it started in the morning to where we left in the end of the day, it was night and day difference on people's ability to move through that.
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For sure.
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