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Remember when comment sections were places of camaraderie rather than battlefields? When passionate hobbyists would write 3,000-word forum posts about their experiences, and strangers would genuinely engage with them? The internet has transformed dramatically, and not necessarily for the better.

In this thought-provoking episode, we explore the increasingly popular "Dead Internet Theory" - the belief that the majority of online engagement now comes from AI bots rather than real humans. We share personal experiences that support this theory, from the suspicious patterns in YouTube comments to the dramatic difference between online engagement now versus a decade ago.

The evidence is compelling: generic usernames consisting of first name, last name, and a few digits dominating finance video comments with identical scam setups. The increasing difficulty for content creators to gain organic traction without paying for promotion. The rise of self-censorship as users weigh whether expressing an opinion is worth potential future repercussions. All signs point to a fundamental shift in our digital landscape.

Beyond the internet's transformation, we delve into recent government changes, particularly focusing on leadership reshuffling at federal agencies like the FBI and ATF. These changes may signal shifting approaches to information regulation and could potentially impact how online spaces are governed moving forward.

Whether you're a nostalgic internet veteran or simply curious about the forces shaping your online experience, this episode offers valuable perspective on our digital reality. Are you interacting with real people online, or just sophisticated algorithms? Listen now and decide for yourself.

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01:37 - The Dead Internet Theory

11:54 - Internet Evolution: From Forums to Short Content

20:36 - Bot Comments and Fake Engagement

30:41 - Self-Censorship and Online Expression

39:13 - Government Reform and Big Tech Changes

57:14 - FBI and ATF Leadership Shakeups

01:14:05 - Whistleblower Reports on Epstein Evidence

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sometimes I see stuff on reddit of people like commenting like you're none.

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Of you are real like you're all, it's all.

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You're all bots, bro, just all bots having an argument yeah, um, I do believe the internet's dead actually the internet is dead.

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I believe majority of quote-unquote accounts on the internet are now bots, just bots and fake stuff.

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I'm actually going to start doing this thing.

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It's called Mixed Miscellaneous.

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Yeah.

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And it's just going to be videos edited to the background of.

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Well, videos will be edited and it'll be me doing whatever right shooting guns, driving around, whatever um, cleaning guns, painting guns but the conversation will always be about, uh, you know, something else.

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Usually, and the first one I want to talk about is the dead internet theory, which there's a lot of things out there already talking about it, but now I just want to talk about it from an experience thing of how you can probably experience that the internet's dead.

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Yeah, and I think the Gen Alpha folks are kind of going to be the first ones to be done with it in a big way.

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Oh yeah.

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As far as it's existed their whole life.

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But it's also existed in this horrible state of like, misinformation, just like, littered with, like you're saying bots, craziness.

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It's old news and so for them it's like what's the big like?

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No, I don't think I need that thing.

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They're just going to have a robot in their house to like answer questions or whatever.

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Like you know, because the tool of the internet is shifting 100%, because I don't see this anywhere more clearly than when I am looking for very niche, obscure information for, like, a certain gun build.

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I'm doing right Mm-hmm, and what I see is that I will go.

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Maybe you guys can all hear Takani in the background wailing.

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My dog is unhappy that she can't see out the windows.

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But what I see, more than anything else on the internet, is like I'll go to these forums and these forums are long story tale forums, you know, with like people having written on them in like 2008, and they're like story for you all about.

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You know what I, how I learned about my mid-length rifle gas system, yada, yada.

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And this dude dude, you know whoever he was.

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He went to this forum and he wrote, you know, a 1 000, 3 000 word story recap, very well written actually.

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You know what I mean.

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Yeah, not just like internet garble speak, but he rewrites this and to his credit.

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You know the forum, the people who are reading it.

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They watch and like read through his whole thing and then respond and engage with them on it.

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And I genuinely realized just the other day I was like the internet, like before there was like easy, streamable video on the internet.

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You used to just read stories and like write out long stories where there are stories of your day, right, and like people who'd be like yeah, duh, blogs, like no, but like dude.

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I don't think a lot of people realize that, like the generation above, like before millennials, used the internet as, like the whole internet was essentially a slow chat room, um, and or like basically like a shared diary, yeah, that you got to let other people engage them, but you got to like remain anonymous on, and entertainment for the internet wasn't super fast, constant, you know, uh, appetizing videos that you just get to scroll through, scroll through, scroll through and like short meme images or whatever.

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The internet hardly had any images Like it was just the forums with, like you're very small, like not even 256 pixels, probably like you know, a 16 pixel by 16 pixel avatar, six pixels probably, like you know, a 16 pixel by 16 pixel avatar, um, and it was just I thought like I had like an epiphany moment where, like there was a day probably when a lot of these forum users were like damn, not that many people are watching my, like reading my stuff and engaging Right, I guess I got to make a YouTube video when YouTube was coming out Right and the first

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like video blogs are coming out and then the vlogs now I think, are feeling it because engagements down and no one wants to watch long form content.

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You got to get it in under a minute, yeah.

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And well, even podcasts are feeling that too.

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Like you, you see, like podcasts are.

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I would say podcasts are past their peak, like, and I know that may seem strange because a lot of people like, oh, dude, like, but they're like the podcasters have all the influence and authority.

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Now, the way you know, primetime news anchors used to have like, yeah, but like they, they had that before you realized it, and now that everyone's kind of realizing it and everyone's trying to hop in on the game of it, it's like kind of one of those things where I feel like it's uh, you know, people are getting on the train, as most people are getting off, like, because podcasters are getting off right, they're becoming directors of the fbi, like if you're leaving podcasting to be a deputy director, like I think podcast has gotten as high as it can get, you know.

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Anyways, all that said that's a long story to essentially say like I had an epiphany moment and in that epiphany I realized there's a good chance, that part of the reason why podcast is dead and like there's not going to be a return to form for these other types of content is because the internet is dead and it's just literally full of ai jabronis, um, that are just like arguing with each other back and forth and it's nothing ever.

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Oh my gosh, my dog is literally attacking pat right now with her love.

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Yeah, I mean, she's not attacking.

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She's so gentle and like she just wants attention, but I I have no idea what's going on has she ever tried to run on you like does she bolt out the door?

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Like not come back, she doesn't bolt out the door, but there's been a couple times on leash where she has gone spooked and wanted to run away.

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Um, I can't think of a time where she's tried to run after something, though.

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That's one of my least favorite traits in a dog.

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It's like the desire to leave you Just the runner yeah.

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She wants a seat at the table.

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Dude she wants to get on mic.

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This dog is giant.

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She's getting up on the table.

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She's 80 pounds.

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She's actually like you see other anatolian shepherds and you'd be like she's kind of runtish.

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But then you see you're next to like a golden retriever.

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You're like she's a really big golden retriever oh yeah, no good dog.

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Yeah, I think what the internet thing too is like.

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I mean, obviously, like the internet the word the internet is almost too broad of a thing now right, like because we use networks, and, uh, I mean watching netflix, that's the internet.

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Or, like you know, getting your email, that's the internet.

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Whatever, like you know, um, there's so many different things, but, like the internet as we know, it is shifting, changing.

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It's not just this.

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Like, it's not a new frontier, like, did you ever grow up playing flash games on the computer, like internet flash games, or did you have, like those, blocked?

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um, I played some.

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Yeah, like those are all dead and gone yeah, there's like one single website now that is a repository for a bunch of those that got backed up before they got annihilated, but all the flash game sites are dead, right, and that's how you know.

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Also, like something changed?

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Yeah, because that used to be the thing where you go play the game and you leave a comment, and that comment was literally to talk crap about the game or to talk crap to other people playing it, and it wasn't live, right, there's no way for it to be live and you leave a comment and you probably never go back and read it.

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But it was just a way of like a mild modicum of interaction for those things and those are completely gone and we're used now to like the instant notification of a reply or response to something and you kind of like have to pick your battles of what you're going to engage on now, because there's so much.

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It used to be, I feel like for the internet.

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There was no, like there was no having to pick your battles.

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It was like it's just here and like you can browse and surf as much of it as you want and you have all the time in the world and if you don't like this game, you just click back and go pick the next game right there, there was like an age of camaraderie too.

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Like the comment, the comment section used to be a place of camaraderie, yeah, you know like, but because it became, even if even if you had something negative to say, it still was just like.

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But now it's just like.

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If you're not the world's leading expert on whatever thing you want to make a comment on, or if you're also not the world's leading expert on whatever topic you're going to post about, you're going get it's like before.

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Like used to be like kind of like whatever someone would.

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Someone would just say like oh, this is, this was so cool.

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I remember something like this and someone's like yeah, me too and the other guy.

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They start talking like yeah, this is exactly how it was back when I, you know, lived in x town in missouri.

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Yeah, like, oh, no way bro.

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Like that's where I'm from too.

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Yeah, and like.

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That was like the kind of like connection.

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The comments were a connecting place, not a place of just straight like just art, like senseless, like yeah it's like the end of Rome, the Senate, and the end of Rome, yeah, when they're just all like idiots arguing in a room.

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That's the comment section here's.

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Here's how I think the internet's a dead.

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There.

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I had a youtube channel I made growing up as a kid.

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Um, you know what I'm not even gonna.

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I'm not gonna play any of the videos here because I don't want any of those.

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I don't know if some people want to be associated like.

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It was me and kids, right, like we were.

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We were in middle school or high school, yeah, making these videos, so, like, some people might not want just to be aired out on the podcast as, like, from their childhood days, right, yeah, um, but I know that, um, some of them have tens of thousands of views and I know one of them has over 500 000 views.

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Yeah, and they were very low effort.

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Well, I guess I'll say they're a lot of effort for a middle school kid, but they're very low effort for, like, the kind of content, quality and production.

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Now, right, like low, yeah, exactly yeah and um, it honestly was.

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It's one of those things where, like, I look at it now and I'm just like dude the re, why?

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Why is it harder to like, get viewership and, you know, spread um, you know, uh, a conversational or engaging piece of media, um, nowadays than it was then, because then it felt so much easier to like post a video and you know, you get your first hundred views or engagement or whatever.

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And now it's just like dude.

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It feels like if you're not paying money to grease the wheels or making the like latest trend algo, or making it your full-time, go at it, yeah.

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Then it's like so many people are like I quit my job and I just went for it all the way.

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It's's like, what about having a hobby, you know?

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Or like, yeah, to make it happen, because it is hard too, like in those spaces, like in the whole world, do you even exist if you don't have, like a following Right?

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Yeah, the number one video on here 324,000 views nice, that's.

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That's a good chunk of views right there, and but it was like zero effort, man.

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You know it was crazy and it's just like you see that and like what people loved back in the day and people freaking love that video yeah, and it was just like that's bonkers.

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To me that's unreal, because I do think the content that we make and a lot of content out there that I've seen a lot of people on YouTube make, I kind of enjoy finding the smaller users who only have a couple thousand views, maybe only a couple hundred, on stuff.

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Sometimes it's really high-quality content but for some reason it doesn't get picked up by that.

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I'll be honest.

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It doesn't get picked up by that, like you know.

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I'll be honest, it doesn't get picked up by the bot feed.

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The bots aren't constantly watching it and flushing it and like, when they're watching it it gets pumped up in numbers and views and stuff and then it gets disseminated to normal people and because bots don't do that and like they click on it and then they click off or something like that, because they don't think it's going to have like higher ad return revenue or whatever, because of content related to the description or what people are talking about, Then it never makes it to the designated audience and I think that's so sad because that is like there's no soul to it.

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And then you get these content creators who are making great stuff and it's getting slept on constantly.

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I don't know.

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It's just in that I genuinely think like the Internet is dead.

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Because of that, my number one post on Reddit is a prank video.

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Of course even though I've commented on, like I've had like super engaging posts on Reddit regarding, like unique AI models that I was working on and trying to resolve certain like problems and, like you know, some really great, like highly educational stuff, that was really, I would say, like new to the content or of like the of the domain right, like we've had conversations there that I know were like the first conversation of a certain topic in AI and like those posts did not get remotely the same amount of engagement or leverage.

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You know that, haha.

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Prank video on reddit got it is I don't know.

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It could be just like, yeah, that's user base right, but also it's one of those things where I'm just like dude.

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I genuinely believe like most of the engagement on the prank stuff is just bots reposting it and it's a lot harder for a bot to repost and know where to put questions about machine learning, algorithms and certain context uses.

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Anyways.

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Yeah, yeah, I think choice, yeah, yeah, I think, uh, it's weird.

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Yeah, it's not dead in that it is now 90.

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It's, it's a.

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It's so integrated into our lifestyle but because of the fact that it is so involved now, it is, in a way, it's dead too you know it's just like, yeah, there's certain parts or certain places out there on the internet where it's just like it's not worth your time or your engagement and and, yeah, it is funny when you do get on, you click on something and, like we said the beginning of this, where it was like, oh, I think every comment on here is just fake accounts arguing with one another, you know, and and it's, it's a pretty wild.

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That's even a thing like my, my brain, my, like my quote unquote, like generation, and I'm kind of like loving myself a little bit older folks in there.

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It's just like I don't even get it.

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It's just like it's just so silly to even think there's a world that exists where there could be, uh, people fake things arguing on the internet that are actually influencing the success of information getting out to people and I think, and that's exactly what it is.

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I think, right, it's like it's a lot harder to whip up and generate.

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You know real users to be fake interested about something, so that way it's promoted on different platforms.

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It that requires more effort and more policing of those people to keep it like the hood on it or the lid on it, and then to do it with bots, though, where you know bots are never going to accidentally slip out and be like yeah, actually, like that was like you know a couple hundred of us all working together to like cross promote this thing everywhere.

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Right, it just be no dude, it's just an automated thing.

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You flip a switch and then just blast this link out to a million different things with, you know, thousands of engagements on each one.

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And yeah, I think that it's changing in the way we consume information, the way everybody sees.

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Stuff Like the bot is also becoming ineffective because people see through it, people see, people know what they're looking at now.

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Yeah, for sure.

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And so, and I think a lot of that um well, have you, have you seen any of those things on YouTube where it's like have you, have you ever watched like a finance video on YouTube?

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Yeah, I've watched a few, yeah on youtube.

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Yeah, I've watched a few.

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Yeah, most finance videos are predominantly filled with long comment back and forth setup scams by bots and it's always like a first name, last name and then three or four numbers afterwards and someone's like man, this is really good stuff, but I just wish I knew where to start.

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And then the reply to that is like yeah, me too, if I honestly, I'm just trying to get into you know crypto, but I'm having a hard time figuring out the proper day time trades.

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And then someone's like hey, you know, I actually just made six figures over the last year by following this person's advice on this.

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Here's the link.

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And it's like oh, yeah, I've heard about her.

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She's a great like cryptocurrency investor strategist.

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And it's like how do you talk to her?

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It's like, oh, I just get a hold of her through whatsapp.

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You can get her at her, like through this whatsapp number.

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And it's, of course, going to be like a crypto scam where it's like give us a thousand dollars, we'll give you ten thousand back right, yeah um, but you look at that you're like, okay, right, this is, this is spam.

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You go to the next comment.

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Pretty much the same thing, same setup, just a different name, different number right, yeah and you just keep going down and all the usernames for those youtube accounts.

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They're all first name, last name, like two to four digits afterwards and it's the whole way down.

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Never in any of those is someone's name.

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Like monkey, platypus eats brains for dessert you know what I mean like yeah, like dude.

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I remember my first like youtube username was just goober stuff, you know, and that's what everyone did for the like usernames that's what because everyone wants to use real creativity and it's like guaranteed.

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When you're looking at youtube and someone's like just a first name, last name, numbers, it's like, yeah, but, and that's that.

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Honestly, scroll through the comments that's overwhelmingly the majority of comments and you go to their channels.

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They've never created anything.

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They've never really created a playlist, even I'm like bro, I don't even trust things that don't have playlists, because if it doesn't have a playlist, that means it's not even actually liking any videos, because if you like videos, youtube creates an automatic playlist of liked videos, right?

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So, anyway, all that said, I'm pretty sure majority of YouTube's fake.

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Now, yeah, and it's kind of weird to say that, but I'm mostly positive and I think too, like when we were marketing the podcast, which it's very hard for people who don't know to market a podcast, um, but we have solely marketed through google ads and marketing through google ads, there were times where I saw literally the let's say, I gave it a hundred dollars for one week of advertising and like trying it's supposed to push the podcast out to people who were, you know, looking up things of like related tags and all that people who'd be interested in the conversation.

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That would fill up in a moment, and it would always fill up, like if I said you're like, yeah, it doesn't matter where you advertise, you can advertise anywhere in the world where the language, where english, is spoken would immediately fill up in india and it'd say we got like a thousand people from it.

00:20:53.755 --> 00:21:07.560
Even if you go to our subscribers right now and scroll through our subscribers, a ton of the subscribers on youtube are just like bot accounts from india and I think someone figured out whoever they were like.

00:21:07.560 --> 00:21:10.108
However, they were shopping out advertising Google was.

00:21:10.108 --> 00:21:53.451
I think they figured it out because then we started doing advertising and it got stricter and stricter and then we got our pee-pees slapped because we were trying to mark like we're trying to advertise episodes where we were seeing, like Donald Trump, joe Biden, kamala Harris, and we were told that that was not okay and then YouTube banned us from being able to advertise and so now we don't get as many views on our stuff, but also now all of our views are at least like a real person finding the content through their algorithm, which I just don't know what's better, right, like it feels good to have 10,000 views on one of our episodes on YouTube alone.

00:21:55.101 --> 00:22:00.471
It's also, though, meaningless if of those 10,000, 5,000, 6,000 are just bots.

00:22:01.113 --> 00:22:03.507
Oh yeah, like I had to delete a comment the other day.

00:22:03.507 --> 00:22:05.781
I looked into it.

00:22:05.781 --> 00:22:10.210
I was curious about the, the efficacy of this program.

00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:13.881
Uh, this guy commented on there.

00:22:13.881 --> 00:22:36.948
It was like whatever, it was a random video of ours, it's like, um, the comment was something along the lines of I've been using such and such's book the last three months and it's been exactly what I needed in my relationship and I was like what the heck is this comment?

00:22:36.948 --> 00:22:37.730
I'm going to have to delete it.

00:22:37.730 --> 00:22:39.507
So I go click on it, like the thing.

00:22:39.507 --> 00:22:42.007
Actually, I didn't click on the link.

00:22:42.007 --> 00:22:43.285
I searched the person's name.

00:22:43.285 --> 00:22:46.505
They were suggesting it was hilarious.

00:22:46.505 --> 00:22:51.971
It was this thing of like the, whatever, the exploring the female orgasm.

00:22:52.352 --> 00:23:14.153
Oh my gosh, Whatever I think, yeah, no, I remember you telling me about this it just was like delete comment, you know, whatever, because yeah, it was one of those things, exactly what you're talking about, which is a bot setting up an advertisement for something just like that's not real and has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about on here and we'll see.

00:23:14.153 --> 00:23:25.403
There's, I think, that like in the vein of you know, like maybe being censored on ads and things like that, or bots and information.

00:23:25.403 --> 00:23:41.561
You know, I wonder how the future landscape is going to look on big tech stuff like Google, meta, tiktok, instagram, whatever and Twitter X.

00:23:42.566 --> 00:23:44.211
Well, it's like they're not even hiding it now.

00:23:44.211 --> 00:23:50.679
They're like advertising that you can engage with as many fake you know accounts as you want.

00:23:50.679 --> 00:23:53.685
We're populating it with ai users now.

00:23:53.685 --> 00:23:54.528
It's like what?

00:23:54.528 --> 00:23:57.113
Yeah, so it feels less dead.

00:23:57.133 --> 00:24:13.916
It's like that's gonna have the opposite effect, oh yeah this is me, a bunch of computers talking to each other, I mean already the internet has a ton of people acting like there's no consequences, but there is a, there's a little tinge, I believe, in almost everyone who uses the internet, of like.

00:24:13.916 --> 00:24:16.646
Should I really say that like?

00:24:16.646 --> 00:24:19.253
I do think that is exist in almost every kind of degree.

00:24:19.253 --> 00:24:32.009
No matter how like, shameless people are on the internet, I still think there's a matter of like oh, there is a person on the other end of this, and what if they're psychotic and I like set them off the deep end and they like stalk me down or something?

00:24:32.028 --> 00:24:47.377
right, because I comment maybe 0.25 percent, even less maybe of the comments I want to say like I mean like, yeah, less than a percentage, like the amount of times I've written out a comment and they just delete it.

00:24:47.598 --> 00:24:50.028
Oh yeah, I don't need to say this, yeah and and guess what?

00:24:50.868 --> 00:24:52.653
I was right my argument was sound.

00:24:52.953 --> 00:24:53.474
Yeah, but it's.

00:24:53.474 --> 00:24:58.815
It's like one of those things like what's no one cares no one cares exactly, they're gonna read this and like they're not even gonna reply.

00:24:59.266 --> 00:25:08.112
And you know what is wasteless and the other parts being like, especially if it's uh or they're gonna respond with my, like, actual coordinates.

00:25:08.972 --> 00:25:11.617
Yeah, they'd be, like I know you, I know your house right.

00:25:11.637 --> 00:25:13.279
That or or to be like.

00:25:14.107 --> 00:25:33.307
The only thing this will ever do is to like give away my position in the future, meaning yep yep like you know, people could backlog search it and be like oh well, like you said this here, so like you're a racist, yeah, yeah, yeah like like, yeah, that sort of stuff like has like to.

00:25:33.808 --> 00:25:35.313
That's why I rarely comment.

00:25:35.313 --> 00:25:36.115
We've talked about this before.

00:25:36.115 --> 00:25:57.255
I rarely comment because, especially I I comment on things that don't matter, things that like like videos like that are funny, whatever, have zero importance, I'll throw something out there, but things that I actually hold a real, true opinion about, that I feel down deep in my soul about what needs to be said here.

00:25:57.255 --> 00:26:03.820
I don't say anything because, like, yeah, fear of retribution in the future, you know.

00:26:04.041 --> 00:26:04.422
For sure.

00:26:04.505 --> 00:26:07.294
And I don't care about what the other keyboard warrior has to say.

00:26:07.294 --> 00:26:13.208
Yep warrior has to say yep, but yeah I and also I'm like I'm.

00:26:13.208 --> 00:26:15.974
I'm just not gonna engage with the keyboard warrior thing, even though I want to.

00:26:15.974 --> 00:26:36.067
I'm also not gonna open myself up and invulnerability to the future, because we know that stuff that gets out there, stuff that gets put out there, is in there in perpetuity, so that it could be found way down the line and who knows, you know how or how it's going to be used in the future.

00:26:36.107 --> 00:26:52.708
Right, and that's why we also even on this, on this show, we try to be fairly diplomatic and or moderate and stuff about what we say, and we and we share our true opinions too, but like just the like yeah, we share opinions, but we try to keep them with like within the context of like.

00:26:53.630 --> 00:26:57.597
You know we're we're open to being wrong and we're open, like.

00:26:57.678 --> 00:27:12.893
Our context is always like hey, this is what we believe, but like it's okay if you don't exactly, and so the that's why I don't comment on stuff, because you're just like I would like to engage in this conversation, but engaging in a real conversation.

00:27:12.893 --> 00:27:18.785
In this setting, all it's going to do is nothing good in the near future and in the far, far future.

00:27:19.026 --> 00:27:22.776
Here's my thing, and I think this is what you're alluding to, maybe to some degree.

00:27:22.776 --> 00:27:27.710
Also, bro, you're so gassy, I know you were like both ends.

00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:30.230
You were just stewing tonight.

00:27:30.230 --> 00:27:31.472
It's bad.

00:27:31.472 --> 00:27:32.616
What's up?

00:27:32.616 --> 00:27:33.708
You and my dog?

00:27:33.708 --> 00:27:36.536
Both are out of control this evening.

00:27:38.484 --> 00:27:57.669
But my biggest thing is I see the comments on like videos or posts and people just saying blanket stuff of like you know a video where like some guy goes to rob a house, he gets get shopped right and then they're like sirs.

00:27:57.669 --> 00:28:04.729
I'm right, honestly, I would have just fucking blown him away and then put like the gun in his hand.

00:28:04.729 --> 00:28:18.005
You know like they say stuff like that and I'm like, oh my gosh you know I see people on red Reddit constantly saying stuff like all right, folks, let's just freaking march down to there and just let's do it, bring our guns, and we'll just kill Trump ourselves.

00:28:18.306 --> 00:28:24.865
And it's just like yo, yo, quit tattling on yourselves Now.

00:28:24.865 --> 00:28:26.530
Do I support either of those people?

00:28:26.530 --> 00:28:27.674
Likely not, right?

00:28:27.674 --> 00:28:38.787
I don't support murdering someone and then framing them to have had the intention of doing you harm so you could get away with crime, and I certainly don't support, uh, treason.

00:28:38.787 --> 00:28:45.259
Um, you know, I don't support assassinating the us president, right?

00:28:45.479 --> 00:29:10.270
Um, all that said, though, sometimes there's things where I do see and I'm like, hmm, like you know, someone's like, oh man, it was, like you know, catching a predator video right where they they do a sting up and they're like, honestly, I could never do this, because if I ever found out someone was trying to sleep with my kid, even if they didn't touch my kid, I'd freaking, bury their body, you know, in concrete, and just like, let them die.

00:29:10.290 --> 00:29:24.928
And I'm like, bro, you ever do it actually in a context where, like you're justified because they were touching your kid and like you were out of anger, took action and you know, you saved your kid from what they were trying to do to him, but you killed him in the process.

00:29:24.928 --> 00:29:31.531
Jury's still gonna pull this up and be like, oh no, he was primed, he just wants to kill anyone who looks like a pedophile right.

00:29:31.531 --> 00:29:33.556
You know I mean, and so like all that, I see all that stuff.

00:29:33.556 --> 00:29:35.205
I'm like keep it to yourself.

00:29:35.205 --> 00:29:36.088
Yeah, keep it to yourself.

00:29:36.088 --> 00:29:40.213
That doesn't need to be written out like you can have that opinion, you can have that opinion.

00:29:40.213 --> 00:29:44.627
That belief doesn't need to be written forever on the internet oh yeah, that's what even I do like.

00:29:45.147 --> 00:29:48.772
All right, big time reddit feed big time.

00:29:48.772 --> 00:30:08.973
You're talking about the lady saying she's going to uh dc this april or no this march to shoot trump no oh my gosh, bro, it's, it's all right you tell me this feed and I'll find this one r radon oh yeah, oh yeah oh yeah oh, let's get into the drama of our radar.

00:30:08.993 --> 00:30:09.733
Oh my God, dude.

00:30:09.733 --> 00:30:22.718
So uh, um, I am technically an expert on mitigation and measurement, whatever, but like, uh, it's just, uh, I don't even I rarely comment on there.

00:30:22.718 --> 00:30:24.913
I peruse it, I check it out.

00:30:24.913 --> 00:30:39.404
Somebody's like needs help figuring out how to do a system on there, and I'll just like, sometimes I'll help, I'll say something, and then, most of the time though, it's just even in that tiny microcosm, tiny, tiny, tiny.

00:30:39.404 --> 00:30:52.298
I mean, there's like maybe a couple thousand people, like maybe two, three thousand people on the whole thing, right, and it's like, um, people get in arguments, people are yelling at each other about all this stuff.

00:30:54.186 --> 00:30:56.366
It's funny it was the other one man last night.

00:30:56.366 --> 00:30:57.049
This one hurt me.

00:30:57.049 --> 00:31:08.507
We were getting basically people were asking what they should do, blah, blah, blah.

00:31:08.507 --> 00:31:09.731
Someone was like, hey, you should really consult a professional.

00:31:09.731 --> 00:31:11.250
Other people were like these people don't even know what they should do, blah, blah, blah.

00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:12.856
And someone was like, hey, you should really consult a professional.

00:31:12.856 --> 00:31:16.086
Other people were like these people don't even know what they're talking about.

00:31:16.086 --> 00:31:19.384
Like they take a two hour course and they're certified bubble, like you know.

00:31:19.384 --> 00:31:34.029
But anyways, it's just like, even in this tiny little like silly community of people trying to get information like the comments go off the rails Lots of people don't know what they're talking about.

00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:44.380
Lots of people are way overly concerned about radon, you know, and radon gas is a I mean the business of it.

00:31:44.380 --> 00:31:46.601
You got to consider, take it seriously and get rid of it.

00:31:46.601 --> 00:31:55.474
Some people are like so overly serious about it and others are like so nonchalant about it.

00:31:55.474 --> 00:31:57.402
I'm like why are you even on this feed if you're so nonchalant about?

00:31:57.422 --> 00:31:58.246
this like it's just so.

00:31:58.246 --> 00:31:58.767
It's just so.

00:31:58.767 --> 00:32:04.285
Anyways, even in the area where I actually truly am like what defines an expert?

00:32:04.285 --> 00:32:05.807
10 000 hours, right?

00:32:05.807 --> 00:32:09.714
Yep, sorry, I'm an expert on now.

00:32:09.714 --> 00:32:26.785
I've never been an expert on anything in my life, right, but this one I can say I'm an expert on, not the science of how the molecules work, but I'm an expert on getting it out of your damn house and anyways, it's just hilarious.

00:32:26.785 --> 00:32:43.398
Even in this little tiny space, people just say stuff that are so silly, offhanded, um hurtful to others, um misinformation, and it's just anyway.

00:32:43.398 --> 00:32:44.300
It's just.

00:32:44.300 --> 00:32:49.400
It's hilarious to to deal with the, so I just don't engage it.

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:50.282
Most of the time?

00:32:50.303 --> 00:32:52.210
yeah, I mean, because what is there to gain?

00:32:52.210 --> 00:32:52.965
You know what I mean.

00:32:52.965 --> 00:32:55.172
What is there really to gain for you and engaging?

00:32:55.192 --> 00:33:15.490
that and in this case, for me it would actually be like the only reason I comment the most on this thing on that one reddit, because I actually do know what I'm talking about and there's people on there earnestly asking questions about how to make their house safer and they're concerned about lung cancer and they want to deal with it.

00:33:15.569 --> 00:33:20.922
So the um, uh, that's the.

00:33:20.922 --> 00:33:22.465
I do feel like it's.

00:33:22.465 --> 00:33:25.372
It's the one tiny place where I'm like, hey, I could weigh in.

00:33:25.372 --> 00:33:34.038
I have a really down to earth like approach and I and technical ability ability and I could help this person figure out what their problem is.

00:33:34.038 --> 00:33:41.338
And so, because I feel like in that space I have the capability to do it, then I do engage it.

00:33:41.338 --> 00:33:53.635
And then it's funny the amount of times because, like you were saying earlier, how on the internet you get like an instant notification of your comment, like you'll say something and then some rando off the wall, is just like trying instant notification of your comment, like you'll say something and then some rando off the wall.

00:33:53.635 --> 00:34:00.396
It's just like it's trying to start an argument with you and you're like, bro, I'm just trying to help this guy who asked a question yeah, yeah, no.

00:34:00.436 --> 00:34:20.505
I mean, like, the craziest thing is like sometimes you get into these conversations this is how I know it's a real person, right, like when on reddit or something that when I'm talking with someone and I say something in a position or a belief and then that person says, no, dude, that's totally stupid.

00:34:20.505 --> 00:34:23.554
And I'm like, uh, care to explain.

00:34:23.554 --> 00:34:29.389
And then they explain my exact position and belief as like why I'm wrong, but like but like.

00:34:29.389 --> 00:34:30.333
They say like it's their own.

00:34:30.333 --> 00:34:33.347
I'm like like I think you misunderstood, we're saying the same thing.

00:34:33.347 --> 00:34:37.597
And then they are like oh, I'm an idiot, you're right.

00:34:37.597 --> 00:34:53.458
That's how I know it's a real person because, like, they have the ability to go back and reread and then formulate an opinion, whereas, like sometimes I'm just I've read it and someone's just like you're stupid and gay, and I'm just like you're stupid and gay and I'm just like, okay, but like why?

00:34:53.458 --> 00:34:56.514
And I'm like never a response, ever to those ones.

00:34:56.684 --> 00:34:59.293
Like there's never a response to like the most lowest hanging like.

00:34:59.293 --> 00:35:04.717
I think my favorite one is like when people it doesn't matter what you say, you can say something.

00:35:04.717 --> 00:35:09.389
If you're a Democrat, you say something about the president that you liked during that administration.

00:35:09.389 --> 00:35:13.532
Or if you're a conservative Republican, you say something about the president that you liked during that administration.

00:35:13.532 --> 00:35:15.434
Or if you're a conservative Republican, you say something now about the current administration.

00:35:15.434 --> 00:35:19.998
Everyone's response to you that's a bot is just going to be like okay, bootlicker, it's always okay Bootlicker.

00:35:20.018 --> 00:35:26.347
The same thing it doesn't matter yeah, it doesn't matter which side of the spectrum you're on, and it's.

00:35:26.347 --> 00:35:33.079
It's just crazy to me, because you try to engage with that person, like they, of course, never have anything to say.

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:46.708
It's just like they are either you know someone who's not capable of like having a real conversation or engagement, or they're just straight up an actual bot, which, yeah, that opens up to another conversation which is speaking to you.

00:35:46.789 --> 00:35:51.039
Out there, people, are you a bot?

00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:57.326
Are you just how many?

00:35:57.326 --> 00:36:07.851
You know, well, meaning, meaning, like, someone makes a comment and then your, your response back to them is okay, fill in the blank, fascist, socialist, nazi.

00:36:07.851 --> 00:36:13.543
Well, you know, whatever you want to, whatever word you have to to to fill in.

00:36:13.543 --> 00:36:17.733
Is that just your initial response and are you just a bot responder?

00:36:17.733 --> 00:36:22.148
You're, you're, you're actually a real person, but your only capability is to respond.

00:36:22.148 --> 00:36:30.757
Only as good as a bot and I think are are most of people who are running this country.

00:36:30.757 --> 00:36:42.467
Their best ability to respond is as a bot, like just this pre-programmed response.

00:36:42.467 --> 00:36:49.655
Um, and I think, and I hope maybe I'm showing a bias here.

00:36:49.655 --> 00:36:53.820
I'm hoping it changes a little bit right now.

00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:57.728
Okay, now, I don't think all the people.

00:36:57.728 --> 00:37:04.380
There's been a huge swing in who's in charge and what's happening in the government.

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:07.492
I don't even agree with all of it that's happening.

00:37:07.492 --> 00:37:14.364
Maybe, maybe I do, maybe I don't, but I Maybe I do, maybe I don't, but, but I uh, maybe I do, maybe I don't.

00:37:14.385 --> 00:37:15.246
You'll never know.

00:37:15.266 --> 00:37:36.925
You can't, you can't can't guess, and so the um, but I do think it feels like the bots might be being eradicated a little, the human bots the oh, like you think, like the human trolls are being beaten by Skynet, like the Skynet bots are beating out the human troll.

00:37:36.925 --> 00:37:38.811
I think so.

00:37:38.811 --> 00:37:40.094
Okay, I think so.

00:37:40.094 --> 00:37:41.679
Imagine, imagine the.

00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:43.244
Terminator versus just trolls.

00:37:43.927 --> 00:37:52.536
Yeah, I would love to watch that movie but I and also what I'm saying is, I think that we're having some major government reform right now.

00:37:52.697 --> 00:37:52.878
Mm-hmm.

00:37:57.610 --> 00:38:00.936
And there's been on.

00:38:00.936 --> 00:38:20.141
People left and right are all can be pre-programmed to say whatever they want to say, but we're coming out of a left-leaning administration, leaning administration, and so the pre-programmed lefty bots in the government are now kind of being a little bit eradicated.

00:38:20.141 --> 00:38:39.282
They're a little bit scared about what's going on and I think that it's going to be interesting to see a couple things happen in response to actually stuff we've been talking about just now.

00:38:39.282 --> 00:38:53.541
With big tech and big social media platforms, things like bots, misinformation and free speech.

00:38:53.541 --> 00:39:37.407
I'm curious if it's actually going to open up back into more free speech, more true information and less shadow banning, things like that going on, or if the pendulum's just going to swing all the way to the other side because just because you get rid of um doesn't matter left or right, censorship is censorship, and so, um, all of a sudden you have guys like zuckerberg kind of being like based, kind of conservative all of a sudden.

00:39:39.172 --> 00:39:42.777
But so are these media platforms just gonna like just swing back?

00:39:42.777 --> 00:39:43.746
Are they just panderers?

00:39:43.746 --> 00:40:01.018
Are they just gonna whatever, whoever's in charge kind of realize that oh, if we go against the grain, we lose out revenue and top dollar, and so we're just going to become organizations that just swing to either side?

00:40:01.018 --> 00:40:15.780
Or are we actually going to hold a line on giving people their First Amendment rights, ability to know what's going on, to have open, uh, discourse, and so we'll see how that goes?

00:40:15.780 --> 00:40:22.557
But also with some of these, the, there's a bunch of kind of a new regime coming in.

00:40:22.557 --> 00:40:25.851
Regime's kind of a nasty word, but I mean, that's what.

00:40:25.911 --> 00:40:28.565
This is the term that everyone's using, though you know and it is.

00:40:28.925 --> 00:40:29.686
That is what it is.

00:40:29.686 --> 00:40:30.047
It's a.

00:40:30.047 --> 00:40:42.766
It's a it's because it's coming down pretty hard on a lot of folks and, um, I'm curious how these new appointees are going to.

00:40:42.766 --> 00:40:44.871
Um, what are they going to do?

00:40:44.871 --> 00:40:55.005
Are they going to do the stuff that the american people popularly voted them in to do, or is it just going to be the same old story right?

00:40:56.530 --> 00:40:57.211
yeah, no, I agree.

00:40:57.211 --> 00:41:15.914
I mean, and I think they are, though I mean, like the truth is is like it's already happening like Trump and Elon are doing exactly what we voted for them to do, and I also know that's like a big thing that a lot of people are like, well, you voted for this and he's doing it now.

00:41:15.914 --> 00:41:16.755
You shouldn't be surprised.

00:41:16.755 --> 00:41:19.856
I'm like I don't know anybody who's complaining on the conservative side.

00:41:19.856 --> 00:41:26.186
I've yet to meet one person on the conservative side that voted for Trump, and I'll say this as someone who, you know, didn't even vote for Trump.

00:41:26.186 --> 00:41:35.331
I'm happy about what he's doing, um, but when I talk to people who voted for him, I'm like I've yet to meet one who's like I'm actually kind of upset.

00:41:35.744 --> 00:41:42.876
I'm like yeah, I think all these people knew this was going to happen and, like everyone, was like, all right, there might be some hard times, you know, to get it done.

00:41:43.005 --> 00:41:52.253
You got to gut stuff out and when you gut it, there's going to be a vacuum for a minute, yeah, yeah, and then in that time in the vacuum is uncomfortable, yep, but it.

00:41:52.253 --> 00:42:05.376
It's like if you can supervise what fills the vacuum and make it better than the whole, than what like left the whole behind, then like I think that's what people are looking for.

00:42:05.376 --> 00:42:08.126
I don't know, I maybe your experience is different.

00:42:08.126 --> 00:42:11.052
You voted for the guy I'm well.

00:42:11.052 --> 00:42:12.697
Well, you voted for the regime.

00:42:12.697 --> 00:42:18.213
Pat Pat, you voted for this Are you happy, I'll say I did.

00:42:18.746 --> 00:42:23.393
I hadn't voted for him in the past, this time around, hey, something had to change.

00:42:24.365 --> 00:42:25.731
See, I did vote for him in the past.

00:42:25.891 --> 00:42:47.880
Yeah, and the thing here would be I do like, for the most part, what I'm seeing, but and we talked about this a little bit with Dean on like, the way that it's hitting individuals is rough.

00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:54.150
Individuals is rough and what I don't.

00:42:54.150 --> 00:43:03.601
What's happening with some of the big doge cuts that I didn't want to see is firing the grunts.

00:43:03.601 --> 00:43:10.228
The grunts get work done.

00:43:10.228 --> 00:43:21.273
Now let me say entry-level people are the worker bees, sometimes Comparatively to the C-suite guys.

00:43:21.273 --> 00:43:28.416
So when you have organizations like the CDC, they get mandated to make cuts.

00:43:28.416 --> 00:43:30.119
Who are they cutting?

00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:45.938
Lowest man on the pole, okay, I see that I understand you're cutting out like your entry-level people, but how about the like the bigwigs?

00:43:45.938 --> 00:43:48.951
Do they all matter?

00:43:50.806 --> 00:43:51.731
What are they getting done?

00:43:51.731 --> 00:43:53.070
A lot of them are getting cut, though.

00:43:53.547 --> 00:43:59.697
But not as much Meaning like what's the number on the Forest Service Rangers who've been cut?

00:43:59.945 --> 00:44:03.585
Oh, I think it was something like almost 8,000 cut across the whole country.

00:44:03.746 --> 00:44:05.351
So Forest Rangers.

00:44:05.351 --> 00:44:42.431
I would like for those guys to have jobs and I think what they're doing kind of mattered Versus, like, and I have no idea how the Forest Service not the Forest Service, but National Parks is structured Not the parks, but it's, you know, your Ranger Ricks, the people who are on the kind of bottom worker bee floor I don't know if cutting them is as important as getting rid of there's bigger fat to trim.

00:44:45.893 --> 00:44:47.356
I wholeheartedly understand what you're saying.

00:44:47.356 --> 00:44:51.268
I have to disagree Because he's cutting.

00:44:51.568 --> 00:45:01.005
it's not just him, his whole um cabinet right now it's, it's it's not just trump, right trump doesn't just make actually trump actually makes probably not in the majority of these decisions.

00:45:01.447 --> 00:45:11.639
He's signing off on it and is, you know, letting his signature be like the the whole, like effort of force, um, but he just fired chief of staffs.

00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:19.597
He's he's been firing us generals from the army and navy and air force left and right, so they are hitting some of the big dogs.

00:45:19.597 --> 00:45:20.447
I think he's.

00:45:20.447 --> 00:45:25.318
I don't think a lot of people understand like every big dog is getting hit.

00:45:25.318 --> 00:45:27.710
I know big dogs that are getting hit.

00:45:27.710 --> 00:45:39.300
I know big dogs who were, you know, people I reported to as a consultant weeks ago that are no longer in those roles right today.

00:45:39.501 --> 00:46:03.358
You know, and it's one of those things where it's like, uh, and a lot of people are gonna like I don't know, like the thing the problem is is like I don't think a lot of people can conceptualize the grunt and the government work until they work with those grunts, like how many people at the DMV or grunt level and how many of them are effective at actually helping the process there versus hindering it.

00:46:03.358 --> 00:46:09.556
Right, yeah, and that's just like a very, very front facing, like transparent one.

00:46:09.556 --> 00:46:13.679
If you look at other industries, there's ones like the post office.

00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:25.793
The post office is like seriously bloated in a lot of you know massive metropolitan areas with lazy staff that are unionized and can't be fired.

00:46:25.793 --> 00:46:27.952
I mean, how many people are even getting letters?

00:46:27.952 --> 00:46:29.469
That's the problem is like.

00:46:29.469 --> 00:46:34.699
I get my mail out in the country faster than people get their mail in Chicago.

00:46:35.182 --> 00:46:38.974
And yeah and like how much of that's all junk mail anyways, sure Right.

00:46:38.994 --> 00:46:39.998
Yeah, and I don't know.

00:46:39.998 --> 00:46:45.617
I'm just saying like I understand, like people are like bro, not our Forest Service workers.

00:46:45.617 --> 00:46:58.916
I know dudes who have worked with the Forest Service, as you know, and they were.

00:46:58.916 --> 00:47:00.219
They're like you know, park rangers for counties.

00:47:00.219 --> 00:47:03.985
So they're at the state level, not the federal, and I know a lot of them are like bro, they are good for nothing.

00:47:04.644 --> 00:47:25.967
Like not all of them, right, but like a good majority of them, are good for nothing and are lazy and are not going to want to lift a finger until they get the thumbs up from someone higher up on the totem pole the state guys talking about the federal guys, yeah yeah, um and so, and even smaller than state guys, like county guys, right, and so it's one of those things where, like I, I get it.

00:47:27.447 --> 00:47:43.818
It's also one of those things like I genuinely believe, like when people are complaining, you know, people are going on and complaining about, like, we were told we had to report the five things we did last week, mm, hmm, and it was due by end of day, monday, and if we didn't, did you see this?

00:47:44.565 --> 00:47:47.110
It was an email that was sent out by.

00:47:47.110 --> 00:47:57.769
I'm not exactly sure I didn't get the email because I'm not technically a, you know, federal employee, a consultant, but a bunch of federal employees, even people in the military, got this email saying reply with five things.

00:47:57.769 --> 00:48:00.195
You did this last week, cc, your manager.

00:48:00.195 --> 00:48:10.360
Failure to respond to this email with you know these things by end of date february whatever monday was 24th.

00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:20.974
Date february, whatever monday was 24th, um will result in like immediate termination and a lot of people threw their hands like this is malarkey.

00:48:20.974 --> 00:48:22.137
This is how blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:48:22.137 --> 00:48:24.896
And I was like all right, well, just in case anyone asked me, I'll make my list.

00:48:24.896 --> 00:48:34.608
Yeah, and I came up with five things pretty quick that, like I did, that I thought were very relevant and imperative to the function of my contract.

00:48:34.608 --> 00:48:40.887
Right, and I know there's people on the government side who couldn't come up with one, let alone three.

00:48:40.927 --> 00:48:45.846
Let alone five couldn't even lie, couldn't even take the time to make a lie exactly they just and like.

00:48:46.786 --> 00:48:57.661
So, all that said, like I do agree for the most part when we think of things as, like your ground level workers, you know who flips your burgers.

00:48:57.661 --> 00:49:03.898
It's not the franchisee guy, usually most of the time of the McDonald's, let alone anyone in corporate Right.

00:49:03.898 --> 00:49:11.498
Who is, you know, refilling the you know gas tanks at the gas station?

00:49:11.498 --> 00:49:14.851
It's not the CEO of.

00:49:15.534 --> 00:49:16.456
Shell or Exxon.

00:49:16.456 --> 00:49:23.893
Right, it's like the homie driving the truck and knowing how to like pump this, like install the pumps and like pump gas out into them safely without blowing everyone up.

00:49:24.173 --> 00:49:24.353
Right.

00:49:26.867 --> 00:49:28.592
The dudes at the government.

00:49:28.592 --> 00:49:35.376
When you work with them, the dudes and ladies at the government on the ground level majority of them will be equal here.

00:49:35.376 --> 00:49:35.677
Yeah.

00:49:36.266 --> 00:49:38.393
Ladies are being lazy too, oh, for sure.

00:49:38.625 --> 00:49:50.626
Majority of them will fight tooth and nail and put more effort into not having more work on their plate about like this isn't our responsibility, this is someone else's you need to go to this department.

00:49:50.626 --> 00:49:58.789
About like this isn't our responsibility, this someone else's you need to go to this department, and they will put more energy into fighting that than they would like, even if the task would have taken a tenth of that yeah, of just ownership.

00:49:58.789 --> 00:50:04.268
And it's unfortunate, man, but you've swayed me you saw, I'm back on it.

00:50:04.369 --> 00:50:07.099
I'm sorry, I'm back on it and like I, I legit let him.

00:50:07.099 --> 00:50:08.425
I don't know anyone.

00:50:08.425 --> 00:50:09.186
I'll say this.

00:50:09.186 --> 00:50:11.652
I don't know anyone that I've worked with directly.

00:50:11.652 --> 00:50:15.909
Yeah, okay, let me prestate this.

00:50:15.909 --> 00:50:20.804
There are people in leadership roles in the federal government who, I believe, did something.

00:50:20.804 --> 00:50:32.940
I just believe they didn't do it well enough or they didn't really agree to fall in step with this new administration's direction.

00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:34.385
So they were like, all right.

00:50:34.385 --> 00:50:42.826
They were like, oh, cause, it's like appointed positions and when a new administration comes in, they just remove the previous administration's appointees to replace what their own.

00:50:42.826 --> 00:50:44.791
Those people could have been doing their job.

00:50:44.791 --> 00:50:53.005
They were probably doing the job the old admin gave them, but they're executive levels in the government, right, they're not your peons.

00:50:53.005 --> 00:51:11.271
I've yet to meet someone that I work with who works hard and is willing to like meet up with me and work through problems and even if we have to sit on the sit on a call for like two, three hours sharing screens to resolve, you know, an issue with a, with a model or a pipeline.

00:51:11.891 --> 00:51:14.114
I've yet to see any of those people lose their jobs.

00:51:14.114 --> 00:51:15.376
Yeah, yeah.

00:51:15.876 --> 00:51:16.797
That's a good point.

00:51:16.856 --> 00:51:20.460
So you know that's where I lie.

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:25.190
You know, because it is just a different environment entirely.

00:51:25.210 --> 00:51:25.731
Got to earn it.

00:51:25.731 --> 00:51:26.916
Yeah, all right.

00:51:26.916 --> 00:51:29.246
All right, cut him.

00:51:29.246 --> 00:51:31.331
Continue with Operation.

00:51:31.490 --> 00:51:33.916
Gun Hook I've made him seditious.

00:51:33.916 --> 00:51:34.597
I've Cut him.

00:51:34.617 --> 00:51:36.222
Continue with Operation Gun Hook.

00:51:36.222 --> 00:51:37.425
I've made him seditious, I've won him over.

00:51:37.425 --> 00:51:45.070
It's like I just get sympathetic for the individual and then also at the same time you know also you're right, you know here's the deal.

00:51:45.090 --> 00:51:52.333
Would you feel bad if you had to cut one of your guys because he didn't show up to work for three days and lied about it when you asked him, like bro, why weren't you here yesterday?

00:51:52.592 --> 00:52:12.039
right, yeah, no, you know, and that's that's, that's the way it works in the uh, quote-unquote real world, right, yeah, so, yes, I think, uh, I guess, with my main point I guess being I hope they don't just cut out the little guys.

00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.853
Yeah, I don't think it is broadly sweeping Right.

00:52:14.945 --> 00:52:22.030
So I hope it's also like how about the trillions and the you know the black budgets we don't know about?

00:52:22.030 --> 00:52:23.614
How about the you know like?

00:52:23.614 --> 00:52:28.791
Okay, how about, like, let's get into the stuff, the, let's get into all this?

00:52:28.791 --> 00:52:38.304
Like, I'd like for my kids to have a forest service ranger to show them an antler hell, you know um, that one million dollars that disappeared.

00:52:39.708 --> 00:52:46.907
that could have paid that forest service ranger for years and years and years for sure let's hunt that down real hard.

00:52:46.907 --> 00:53:04.653
So as long as that's like, it can't just be a personnel sweeping cut, it has to also really really dig into and I hope it is, and it sounds like it is dig into the other stuff, the weird stuff, Don't you feel like that's what's going on with, like the USAID and the Department of Education stuff.

00:53:05.255 --> 00:53:05.456
I do.

00:53:05.456 --> 00:53:19.637
I do feel like that's happening, happening, but for me that is paramount or focus, comparatively to ranger rick, yeah, keeping his fifty thousand dollars a year, I agree, right.

00:53:19.637 --> 00:53:26.675
So like on that, like, kind of like, and at the same time, yet it is bloated and I could, I could go like full ron swanson on it.

00:53:26.675 --> 00:53:29.771
It's some some days, you know, yeah, like, do we need any of it?

00:53:29.771 --> 00:53:30.432
I don't know.

00:53:30.753 --> 00:53:40.431
Yeah, if I want a road maybe I should have to build the road exactly like I don't know, you know and maybe I get to build it how I want to and my neighbor gets to build it the way he wants to.

00:53:40.572 --> 00:53:56.161
Yeah and so uh, but at the same time, I, yeah, so there I do, I just I'm, I'm torn and it is a uh, um, it gets delicate for the individuals, but at the same time, yeah, no, something's got to change.

00:53:56.161 --> 00:54:01.416
And ultimately, on the back end, I think that economic growth will happen there.

00:54:03.324 --> 00:54:15.030
And this guy, kash Patel, one of the appointees- Appointee of the FBI and now acting he's director of the FBI.

00:54:15.030 --> 00:54:15.954
Congress approved it.

00:54:15.954 --> 00:54:19.094
Now he's acting director of the ATF.

00:54:19.094 --> 00:54:30.637
I don't know if he has passed the congressional approval and now Dan Bongino is the deputy director of the ATF.

00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:31.438
FBI.

00:54:31.438 --> 00:54:42.139
And so what I do love, Cash Patel, like six months to a year ago, came on Sean Ryan's show.

00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:42.900
Yeah.

00:54:43.264 --> 00:54:46.065
And laid out his plan for the FBI.

00:54:46.065 --> 00:54:50.936
He was like and I don't know if he knew he was like in the running or not.

00:54:50.936 --> 00:54:52.710
Now he was connected enough.

00:54:52.710 --> 00:55:07.568
He might've known, yeah, but he might not have known, which would be totally beautiful, crazy If he did not know that he was going to be in this position, cause it's just like Sean's like basically like, hey, you know FB, if you're a, you know what.

00:55:07.568 --> 00:55:08.873
What do you think needs to happen at the FBI?

00:55:08.873 --> 00:55:12.608
You know, what do you think needs to happen at the fbi?

00:55:12.608 --> 00:55:15.074
And he just laid out this plan in this distinct, like two minute little bit.

00:55:16.277 --> 00:55:49.148
And that thing has been going viral because now he has the power to do what he said he was going to do in that, yeah, and, and he's starting to make it happen already and it's uh, um, it's going to take time for him to do what he wants to do there, but basically, similarly, he's going to really uh, decentralize it and refocus it on what it needs to be, which is, you know, catching bad guys, you know.

00:55:49.148 --> 00:55:56.907
And so it's just uh, um, but people, I think, are panicking about it.

00:55:56.907 --> 00:55:57.809
For some reason.

00:55:57.809 --> 00:56:00.300
People are like, oh, my God, about a.

00:56:00.340 --> 00:56:01.867
Brown guy running the FBI.

00:56:02.449 --> 00:56:10.188
Yeah, I just wanted to make how the turns have tied.

00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:13.489
I thought people would applaud Trump for being so diverse in his appointments.

00:56:13.809 --> 00:56:16.719
I know the turns have tied.

00:56:16.780 --> 00:56:19.027
He's also a brown guy as the deputy.

00:56:19.027 --> 00:56:23.405
Oh yeah, dan's like that line of like.

00:56:23.405 --> 00:56:26.822
He doesn't get the n-word pass you know what I mean.

00:56:27.143 --> 00:56:28.588
I think he's super italian.

00:56:28.588 --> 00:56:30.532
I think he, I think he's like oh, really someone.

00:56:30.612 --> 00:56:38.085
I was just reading something where someone said he was black like he was, like an eighth black, I don't know african-american, I'm sure he doesn't care.

00:56:39.106 --> 00:56:40.929
Maybe I don't know, we'll see.

00:56:40.929 --> 00:56:48.025
But yeah, this is on a.

00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.088
He's of Italian descent is what it says.

00:56:51.088 --> 00:56:52.644
No, that's what it is.

00:56:52.644 --> 00:56:56.188
If he has any black in him, it's not enough.

00:56:56.188 --> 00:56:57.271
He's Italian.

00:56:59.181 --> 00:57:04.632
Yeah so he got a WAP in the directory here.

00:57:04.632 --> 00:57:06.905
I can say that because I'm partially Italian.

00:57:06.905 --> 00:57:08.050
What's WAP even mean?

00:57:11.186 --> 00:57:12.010
It was just slander.

00:57:12.010 --> 00:57:13.539
Oh yeah, Is it an acronym?

00:57:13.539 --> 00:57:17.175
I think it's legit, just slang from an Italian expression.

00:57:17.175 --> 00:57:18.119
I don't even think they had it.

00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:25.519
It's like how they used to call Irish people mix, and that was like the N n word for irish people right.

00:57:25.981 --> 00:57:32.896
Um, yeah, the I don't think they had acronyms back then, but anyways, I can say it, I'm, I got it.

00:57:32.896 --> 00:57:35.583
I got that italianese in me um.

00:57:35.583 --> 00:57:36.726
So there you go.

00:57:36.726 --> 00:57:42.605
But um and I don't know if I ever actually said that word but uh, um.

00:57:42.605 --> 00:57:47.414
So these guys in charge of the f, we'll see what they're going to do.

00:57:47.414 --> 00:57:48.764
It's going to be wild.

00:57:48.764 --> 00:58:04.860
All of a sudden, it feels like either major podcast hosts and or major podcast guests are all going to be running the country, which is hilarious, like the fact that Theo Vaughn got thanked At the presidential inauguration.

00:58:04.860 --> 00:58:05.862
That's crazy.

00:58:05.862 --> 00:58:07.007
I mean full circle.

00:58:07.007 --> 00:58:08.070
Back To our earlier topic.

00:58:08.070 --> 00:58:24.525
If in 2019, someone said, hey, theo Vaughn's gonna be thanked For At the presidential inauguration Of 2024, people have been like what Are you talking about?

00:58:24.786 --> 00:58:24.987
Yeah.

00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.172
And anyways, it's insane, it's crazy, it's silly.

00:58:30.172 --> 00:58:31.425
I don't know what's going on.

00:58:33.001 --> 00:58:39.365
I'm honestly like just I know nothing about this Dan guy, I know nothing about him.

00:58:39.541 --> 00:58:40.242
He's a former.

00:58:40.242 --> 00:58:45.541
I will say this he was a former Secret secret service agent oh okay, all right.

00:58:45.661 --> 00:58:48.311
Okay, I'm not surprised anymore, just totally fine.

00:58:48.974 --> 00:58:49.534
So he has.

00:58:49.534 --> 00:58:55.626
He has like a government background, um, and then podcast uh host.

00:58:55.626 --> 00:58:58.750
He was also a was he a chicago cop?

00:58:58.750 --> 00:59:26.047
Uh, I don't know what all was he, but anyways, he's kind of had Since his Secret Service days he's had a really Kind of Political patriotic Focused podcast, and so I don't know why he he was NYPD officer.

00:59:27.630 --> 00:59:34.231
Bro, okay, I have no care or concerns now Because honestly it's like they say podcaster, right.

00:59:34.981 --> 00:59:39.088
But it's like dude's, not a podcaster Dude had a full-fledged career before that.

00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:45.369
It'd be like you know a lot of people don't that sean ryan was actually like in the military and cia, right.

00:59:45.369 --> 00:59:56.344
But it'd be like if sean ryan one day got appointed to stuff and you'd be like the podcaster sean ryan and then if you looked at his career, you'd be like, oh okay, that makes more sense now right, you know he had, yeah, he had a.

00:59:56.985 --> 01:00:14.746
Uh, yeah, he was a special agent for the Secret Service, nypd officer and so that's kind of why and that's his background, you know as far as why he, and then he's had a long stint in media.

01:00:14.746 --> 01:00:16.451
But yeah, so he does.

01:00:16.451 --> 01:00:23.690
He's not just a, it's not just like if they came to Pat hey, pat, I heard you hosted a podcast.

01:00:23.690 --> 01:00:25.603
Want to direct the?

01:00:25.603 --> 01:00:27.748
Be a deputy director of the FBI.

01:00:27.809 --> 01:00:28.851
Yeah, okay, right.

01:00:28.851 --> 01:00:32.771
For some reason I thought he legit was from E Entertainment.

01:00:32.771 --> 01:00:35.974
I think he looks like some guy from E Entertainment.

01:00:35.974 --> 01:00:36.677
You know what I mean.

01:00:36.677 --> 01:00:44.588
And I was like this is a horrible mistake, Okay, but what would you say if they asked you to do that?

01:00:47.181 --> 01:00:49.869
I mean I'd probably say yes, yeah, no, kidding bro Of course.

01:00:49.869 --> 01:00:55.001
I'd be like listen, I don't know what I'm doing or why you asked me to do this, but I'm Don't worry, we'll walk you through it.

01:00:55.001 --> 01:00:56.021
I'm answering the call.

01:00:56.682 --> 01:00:57.003
Honestly.

01:00:57.003 --> 01:01:06.413
That's why we need you to do it, because if you do it, you know you don't know what you're doing, so you'll be more prone to listen to us when we tell you what to do, To learn how to do it.

01:01:06.672 --> 01:01:28.394
Exactly, and that's why I think the Dan Bongino piece Unmolded clay and I think he's been in the arena a little bit, at least enough he's been the boots on the ground guy in these areas to now have, um, have that, that effective leadership, I like any time.

01:01:28.394 --> 01:01:44.440
I like any time somebody gets into leadership who has done at least a little bit of you know walking, walking as the grunt, walking as the in the trenches a little bit, and okay, now you're in charge.

01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:45.202
That's awesome.

01:01:45.202 --> 01:01:47.146
That's what we need, you know to have.

01:01:47.146 --> 01:01:49.092
You need mustang leadership.

01:01:49.092 --> 01:02:01.532
You know, like in the military you got enlisted guys who then become officers, that sort of thing, um, and that's why, like, like the former freaking guy in charge of the atf, steve dedelbach.

01:02:02.653 --> 01:02:05.588
This is the white guy, or the deputy, that replaced him when he stepped down.

01:02:05.588 --> 01:02:09.130
There's a black dude that replaced him as acting director.

01:02:10.625 --> 01:02:20.306
This is the white guy, but he was in from 2022 to 2025 yeah this gross dude, yeah, I mean the guy who didn't know shit about shit yeah, you like see him.

01:02:20.327 --> 01:02:22.210
He doesn't know how to even like make a gun safe.

01:02:22.271 --> 01:02:28.820
I'll say this he knows about alcohol he's probably smoked a cigar but he doesn't know anything about firearms.

01:02:28.820 --> 01:02:35.072
And everybody knows the atf doesn't have anything to do with alcohol and tobacco they got.

01:02:35.072 --> 01:02:56.342
They're dealing with firearms and explosives, um and so, anyways, good, he's from Ohio, um, which is fine, the place of no culture, um, and then, uh, he, uh, you know, born to two prominent attorneys, and then he became an attorney himself and then he became the director of the ATF.

01:02:56.342 --> 01:02:57.463
Guess what?

01:02:57.463 --> 01:03:06.815
This guy has no business directing an institution that's supposed to be.

01:03:06.815 --> 01:03:21.206
Here's the deal ATF is supposed to basically focus on criminal activity Sure, not prosecuting it.

01:03:21.206 --> 01:03:23.019
Atf doesn't have anything to do with prosecuting it.

01:03:23.019 --> 01:03:23.181
They don't get to prosecute.

01:03:23.181 --> 01:03:23.740
And they also don't get to enforce Sure, not prosecuting it.

01:03:23.740 --> 01:03:24.159
Atf doesn't have anything to do with prosecuting it.

01:03:24.882 --> 01:03:27.887
They don't get to prosecute and they also don't get to enforce Right.

01:03:28.860 --> 01:03:33.512
They're a legislative branch not an executive branch and a tool for that.

01:03:33.512 --> 01:03:39.050
Attorneys don't have anything to do with that mission set.

01:03:39.050 --> 01:03:42.208
So wrong guy, wrong place.

01:03:42.208 --> 01:03:46.894
Sorry, bye-bye, don't, care't, care also, he's still fine.

01:03:46.894 --> 01:03:49.362
He's gonna go get some other awesome job somewhere else.

01:03:49.362 --> 01:03:53.170
So good riddance, adios, see you later.

01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:56.643
Let's get some guys in there who might do something different, you know.

01:03:56.643 --> 01:04:00.112
And so cash patel, we'll see what he's gonna do.

01:04:00.112 --> 01:04:07.442
There's talk of atf, basef or FBI basically absorbing the ATF, which wouldn't be a bad move.

01:04:07.762 --> 01:04:08.085
I don't know.

01:04:08.085 --> 01:04:18.327
I'm not about it, because the only reason the ATF doesn't constantly go after us to like arrest people and do sting operations is because they don't have the money for it.

01:04:18.327 --> 01:04:22.967
But if the FBI took over that, the FBI does got that monies.

01:04:25.224 --> 01:04:26.668
I could see that point, but also.

01:04:27.139 --> 01:04:31.411
The FBI's got the money to come up with their own sting operations on themselves.

01:04:31.411 --> 01:04:38.123
I remember when, like the Gretchen Whitmer got people, kidnapping was like Do you remember reading it.

01:04:38.405 --> 01:04:39.289
I recognize that name.

01:04:39.380 --> 01:04:41.708
Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan, oh yeah.

01:04:41.708 --> 01:04:44.088
And there is that group who was like, yeah, we're going to kidnap her.

01:04:44.088 --> 01:04:52.293
And then, after it came out, there's like three FBI agents that were all essentially inciting the whole thing.

01:04:52.293 --> 01:05:19.306
That were involved in it no-transcript if they got the budget for that they got the budget to ruin our poopy days?

01:05:19.746 --> 01:05:28.896
budgetarily, yes, but how about with the direction the agency both agencies could potentially head.

01:05:30.684 --> 01:05:31.907
I say get rid of both agencies.

01:05:32.521 --> 01:05:38.797
I realize the disbandment of all the three-letter things would be maybe preferable to a lot of people.

01:05:39.219 --> 01:05:39.360
Yeah.

01:05:42.025 --> 01:06:06.635
But if they're not going away, sure, and you have somebody who wants to point things back in a different direction, you could effectively quote-unquote disband a lot of atf stuff, bring it into the fbi and they could actually focus on to the FBI and they could actually focus on bad guys with guns not good guys with guns, the cartel Right.

01:06:12.340 --> 01:06:18.916
And so now you, you could now, yes, whoever gets in charge of it next time could abuse it, but the firearm thing kind of isn't going away in some ways.

01:06:18.916 --> 01:06:42.771
So, like, could it be beneficial to have, at least to have the, the agencies, absorbed into one another and, uh, consolidated right I mean, I don't know, man, it's kind of like, would you rather have seven heads fighting each other over the food?

01:06:42.771 --> 01:06:44.353
Right.

01:06:46.699 --> 01:06:51.146
And having to deal with the regulation of seven, or just like the one just wanting to eat whatever is in front of it.

01:06:52.262 --> 01:06:59.728
There's that piece too, but I just think that if the FBI wanted to go after somebody for firearms charges, they could do it regardless of the ATF.

01:06:59.827 --> 01:07:00.891
They don't know, they don't get to.

01:07:00.891 --> 01:07:03.885
Jurisdiction is a huge deal for these federal agencies.

01:07:03.885 --> 01:07:05.871
It's a big deal.

01:07:05.871 --> 01:07:11.407
That's why, essentially, you will never see another agency doing anything when it comes to kidnapping.

01:07:11.407 --> 01:07:13.206
Fbi owns kidnapping.

01:07:13.206 --> 01:07:14.599
It's in their mandates.

01:07:14.599 --> 01:07:18.784
Also, fbi doesn't do security for judges, that's the Marshal Service.

01:07:18.784 --> 01:07:23.028
But if the guy FBI doesn't do any witness protection, marshal Service.

01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:25.619
Right.

01:07:25.619 --> 01:07:29.110
But if the guy FBI doesn't do any witness protection, martial service, right also.

01:07:29.110 --> 01:07:29.972
If the but, then it gets sticky too.

01:07:29.972 --> 01:07:35.452
If the guy for kidnappings also like creating explosives and known known explosive maker, whose thing is it like you?

01:07:35.472 --> 01:07:39.505
know, like I get it sure, yeah right, that's a crazy criminal honestly.

01:07:39.505 --> 01:07:41.391
A kidnappy, do bigs bobs.

01:07:41.411 --> 01:07:43.097
I mean honestly can that be new bigs bobs?

01:07:43.097 --> 01:07:51.481
I mean, if I'm why, stop at one, yeah, I'll say like yeah, exactly, if you're going down the line, just you know, I think most people.

01:07:51.722 --> 01:07:52.945
I just don't think that's the.

01:07:52.945 --> 01:08:00.307
You know, when a crime is committed, they investigate based on that crime and occurrence and if there's a different case, it gets different.

01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:13.148
That's why you see that's honestly how it happens is like oh, I'm an undercover atf, like, atf, I'm undercover ta.

01:08:13.148 --> 01:08:15.594
Yeah, it is like that's how you end up with that, right, right, no, it's true.

01:08:15.594 --> 01:08:33.286
So I think, from um, from a libertarian standpoint, there is the way that libertarian might want to see things to go, and then also I think that if, through combining them, this actually abolishes the atf, I'm okay with that too.

01:08:33.506 --> 01:08:46.095
Yeah, right, like fine, you know, I guess I'll look at it differently, I'll change my perspective, rather than me thinking it's best if the Hydra fights amongst its heads To keep it separate right.

01:08:46.095 --> 01:08:47.845
Maybe I'll think of this.

01:08:47.845 --> 01:08:51.228
It's like it's easier to kill a Hydra if it's only got one head.

01:08:51.228 --> 01:08:52.792
No right.

01:08:54.389 --> 01:08:55.020
But I think that.

01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:56.305
Some people are like kill a Hydra.

01:08:56.305 --> 01:08:58.948
Is he alluding to taking down the federal government?

01:08:58.948 --> 01:09:02.279
No, Just the corrupt law enforcement.

01:09:02.942 --> 01:09:10.028
Let's say, cash Rattel and Dan Bongino are taking on the Hydra and they can stick two heads into one space.

01:09:10.028 --> 01:09:13.024
You know, get two birds with one stone.

01:09:13.166 --> 01:09:16.889
Sure, sure, I don't think that's going to happen, dismantling us.

01:09:16.889 --> 01:09:42.414
I do like, though, here's one thing I really do like is that if it does work to push all the FBI agents back out to like out of DC to go out to field offices and stuff, like Cash Patel saying, I think it can become enough of like we do it this way in this office, we do it this way in this office that it'd be hard to like re, bring him all back together.

01:09:42.414 --> 01:09:44.600
Like it'll go back to the old days when it was supposed to be that way.

01:09:44.600 --> 01:10:04.197
Right, um, and that's how operated for the most part is like you had your fbi office out in arizona and they, freaking, were cowboys compared to fbi's guys in new york, and now it got super like everyone's based out of dc and we just fly them out in jets, yeah, and everyone's of the same hive mind in dc.

01:10:05.118 --> 01:10:12.470
it's just like gross, you know no, yeah, so I don't know what they're gonna do.

01:10:12.470 --> 01:10:14.774
Hopefully they do something cool.

01:10:14.774 --> 01:10:17.605
Yeah, I agree, and uh, you said this.

01:10:17.605 --> 01:10:22.701
I didn't realize this is do you have other articles on it or just like posts going around about?

01:10:22.701 --> 01:10:41.412
Basically, now we've got Cash, patel is threatening the power and threatening the old regime and you're saying that FBI reports are coming out, that people are shredding Epstein evidence.

01:10:41.532 --> 01:10:43.595
Yeah, yeah, let me look that up.

01:10:43.595 --> 01:10:46.307
I'll try to find the articles I was reading earlier.

01:10:48.140 --> 01:11:06.247
And it makes sense because we've all known that other people, somewhere at some three-letter thing, have known more than they've all been telling us, whether it's the full-blown answer to a conspiracy theory, or at least it's a little more than we'd like to know.

01:11:06.247 --> 01:11:09.806
Um, people know more than the common man knows.

01:11:09.806 --> 01:11:16.311
So, uh, makes sense that people are kind of getting a little panicky as other people have gotten in charge.

01:11:16.311 --> 01:11:17.387
We're getting kind of serious.

01:11:18.336 --> 01:11:35.197
Um, yeah, and it's one of those things where it's like, you know, a lot of the big news publications aren't running stuff yet because, again, this is a whistleblower who's reporting to someone who is, you know, then like discussing it on ex-Twitter.

01:11:35.197 --> 01:12:00.282
Now, world news as well as let me just go to news news, uh, express tribune, um, american prospect and newsweek, uh oh, some of these are a little town hall, though town hall is talking about it, um, but anyways.

01:12:00.282 --> 01:12:26.081
So the basis is that there is a whistleblower coming forward with allegations that the FBI is systematically deleting evidence tied to Jeffrey Epstein and deleting specifically records of like travel and logs and such Right, which is like OK, so they're straight up hiding who the hell were on, like the records with epstein the quote.

01:12:26.121 --> 01:12:27.063
Unquote the list.

01:12:27.203 --> 01:12:32.724
Yeah, people have been wanting right exactly um, which is just one of those things where it's like I'm shocked.

01:12:32.724 --> 01:12:33.565
They waited till now.

01:12:33.565 --> 01:12:35.971
I expected them like I expected.

01:12:35.971 --> 01:12:38.828
By the time trump got into office, it was like all right, we're revealing it.

01:12:38.927 --> 01:12:44.966
I expected people to be like oh, it's gone yeah, you know what I, a little devil's advocate on that would be.

01:12:44.966 --> 01:12:49.511
Does the big dog want the stuff shredded too?

01:12:50.033 --> 01:12:50.694
I don't think so.

01:12:51.373 --> 01:12:51.555
Yeah.

01:12:51.755 --> 01:12:52.435
I don't think so.

01:12:52.435 --> 01:12:55.408
No, because I think there's enough.

01:12:55.408 --> 01:13:00.606
Here's my number one thing People are deleting it.

01:13:00.606 --> 01:13:01.780
People who have seen it.

01:13:01.780 --> 01:13:03.283
People are deleting it, people who have seen it.

01:13:03.283 --> 01:13:29.171
If there was any credible, truly valid accusations about him being on that list, it would have been out years ago to destroy any Think about that truly any legitimate evidence that would hold up in court that he did something with Epstein to any degree that we see is alluded to with others like Bill Gates or Stephen Hawking.

01:13:29.171 --> 01:13:37.667
If there was any credibility to that, that would have been out years and years and years ago, with all the other FBI hit pieces they did on Trump, you know.

01:13:37.667 --> 01:13:44.471
I mean, like the fact that that didn't drop makes me very confident that they ain't got shit in regards to the Epstein stuff.

01:13:46.001 --> 01:13:50.729
My only counter would be with mutually assured destruction.

01:13:50.729 --> 01:13:55.362
It wouldn't make sense.

01:13:55.362 --> 01:13:59.342
But right now the left, the Democrats, don't have anything.

01:13:59.342 --> 01:14:00.166
There's nothing to lose.

01:14:00.166 --> 01:14:01.543
That's what I'm saying.

01:14:01.543 --> 01:14:06.806
They don't have anybody now for it to, so they could have hit it out.

01:14:07.143 --> 01:14:07.567
What do you mean?

01:14:07.567 --> 01:14:08.680
Even mutually assured destruction?

01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:12.346
They could have just released the Trump stuff and then made sure not to release the rest.

01:14:12.346 --> 01:14:14.067
The FBI wouldn't have done it.

01:14:15.086 --> 01:14:23.768
But people, if you only come out with him, like out of Meaning, yeah, they'd have their acceptable people, that they'd be like, alright, fuck that.

01:14:23.768 --> 01:14:35.886
You'd have to have Fall guys at least, but like I just think, a lot of those people are aging out or going away, so I don't know.

01:14:35.886 --> 01:14:38.680
Granted, once again I'm playing devil's advocate.

01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:40.807
Here on some of this piece.

01:14:41.483 --> 01:14:48.368
I'll say this I have no faith In the ability to think ahead that far when it comes to the Democrats.

01:14:48.368 --> 01:14:51.286
I mean, have you seen it?

01:14:51.286 --> 01:14:53.185
Do you recall Benghazi?

01:14:54.203 --> 01:14:55.046
I've been to the DMV.

01:14:55.046 --> 01:14:57.266
I've seen the Afghanistan pullout.

01:14:58.921 --> 01:15:00.988
Yeah, there's no ability to think that far ahead, I think.

01:15:00.988 --> 01:15:05.712
I think if they had that golden ticket to destroy Trump's platform, they would have done it years ago.

01:15:05.712 --> 01:15:10.909
I think, there would have been other GOP people who would have been like oh yeah, do that, so it could be my time.

01:15:10.909 --> 01:15:11.751
That's true.

01:15:12.112 --> 01:15:12.432
That's true.

01:15:12.432 --> 01:15:12.912
You know what I mean?

01:15:12.912 --> 01:15:18.582
Yeah, and I think he did hang out with them, without a doubt, and even flew on his plane.

01:15:18.601 --> 01:15:23.833
Without a doubt, it is said that they shared flights at one point or another.

01:15:23.833 --> 01:15:25.345
But here's the other thing.

01:15:25.345 --> 01:15:34.765
Without a doubt, it's pretty clear that when people asked if Trump was there or present, a lot of people like a lot of those girls' witnesses were like no, he wasn't there, we had no sexual encounter.

01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:42.551
He was on the plane one time I remember, but there was nothing sexual about it, because not every single person, and yeah to the quote unquote list also.

01:15:42.551 --> 01:15:44.320
Yeah, there's the every single person and yeah to the quote unquote list also.

01:15:44.320 --> 01:15:45.225
Like there's, yeah, there's the flight log stuff.

01:15:45.225 --> 01:15:48.988
Not every single person who ever hung out with this guy was.

01:15:49.048 --> 01:15:49.811
But shit, bro.

01:15:49.811 --> 01:15:52.106
The witnesses came forward were like Stephen Hawking.

01:15:52.106 --> 01:15:52.829
He was a baddie.

01:15:52.829 --> 01:15:56.463
Stephen Hawking in his wheelchair, did you not know this?

01:15:56.463 --> 01:15:58.782
Yeah, bro, did you not?

01:15:58.841 --> 01:16:02.189
know this, I do know it, I do know it, just like I do know it, I do know it.

01:16:02.189 --> 01:16:04.694
It's just like, and I'm not surprised by it.

01:16:04.694 --> 01:16:12.849
Come on, Sorry let me do my computer voice Come over here, bitch.

01:16:13.511 --> 01:16:14.554
Come over here, bitch.

01:16:14.554 --> 01:16:18.430
Come give me a lap dance you know what I mean All right, all right.

01:16:18.430 --> 01:16:20.867
You have to make sure that sounds computer in the edit.

01:16:20.867 --> 01:16:22.926
Billie Jean could do a way better computer voice.

01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:25.284
F, that guy, guy, I never liked him.

01:16:25.284 --> 01:16:26.547
I never liked him either.

01:16:26.547 --> 01:16:33.587
You know, I don't care about his condition yeah, he's a weird effer nasty even.

01:16:33.587 --> 01:16:36.592
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he made.

01:16:36.592 --> 01:16:41.126
He made it further in life being in that wheelchair than he would have out of it.

01:16:41.126 --> 01:16:42.670
Facts.

01:16:42.670 --> 01:16:43.532
Is that fair?

01:16:44.460 --> 01:16:51.329
Look how hard Neil deGrasse Tyson has to freaking grift to get a fraction of Stephen Hawking's fame.

01:16:51.329 --> 01:16:52.271
That's true.

01:16:52.271 --> 01:17:34.979
No one knew who Neil deGrasse Tyson was before Stephen Hawking died, and then after he died, he went from being like oh yeah, the black scientist guy, and it became like, oh, ndg, I'm sorry, neil degrasse ndt, yeah, um, which also, he's also just a grifter too, but anyways, um, we've talked about a lot tonight a lot of things on the sun dead a uh, the dead internet theory over abundance of AI, you know podcast peaking and the new directors and, of course, the still continued trimming of fat in the Fed by the Trump admin and Epstein.

01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:36.387
Listen here at the end of it all.

01:17:36.387 --> 01:17:42.399
Oh yeah, I'm sure none of it is stuff YouTube enjoys us talking about.

01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:46.310
I actually think this whole episode is things that YouTube will not like.

01:17:46.310 --> 01:17:53.204
So, anyways, all I said, ken, we appreciate you, we're thankful for you.

01:17:53.204 --> 01:18:01.894
Keep an eye out for Mick Miscellaneous, because I'm going to take that mic home tonight and get to work on those.

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It'll be fun little drops, but other than that, till next time.