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Well, well, well, pat, oh, damn what.
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My caribou.
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He's whipped out a caribou on the table.
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Dude, I love this knife so much I actually, if you pull it right out of your pocket, it's just open it auto-ejects.
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Yep, I have that problem myself.
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Auto-eject I don't think you do.
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I think you have three kids, hey.
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It happens.
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Anyways, I've been having dreams since I got my dog.
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Almost every night I dream that I have to kill another dog.
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Like I'm having the dream I'm walking my dog, uh-huh, and some dog comes at us out of the darkness and latches onto my dog and I just immediately go for this and I'm just stabbing that dog and I don't know like.
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What's that say about?
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Like, when something comes into your life and all of a sudden you just love it a lot and it totally changes your whole psychology and how you view like and like what you're worried about.
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Because, like my other, before I got this dog dude, my stress dreams were teeth falling out.
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That was my stress dream.
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And that one that happens a lot of people, that one that happens a lot of people.
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I think that, uh, when you I'm sure that someone educated has something to say about this, but what I'm gonna say about it is that you know just what you're thinking about.
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The things that are on your mind is what comes up in your dreams, and the end, like because you you're also you're putting in a lot of time and effort on this, but you know, in on this blending of the family, on this bringing in a ruffian off the street that needs a little extra love, yeah, she's a good girl, though, for sure, for sure.
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She just is a big wussy when it comes to the stairs, mm-hmm.
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And before we get too far going, I guess we should just welcome our listeners to season three of the mickey pat show officially.
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Yeah, this, this is officially episode one of season three.
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Guess how many episodes we have out right now?
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You should, probably.
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You should know this.
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How many episodes are in our playlist without looking it up?
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I mean, I don't 150 no, is that over that's?
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Over.
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That's more.
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Yeah, but we're like because sometimes we're for a while back back that we were running two a week.
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We did a little bit, we did some two a week for a while, you know.
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So have we had our hundredth yet?
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Oh yeah, all right.
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So so we're in between one, so 125, we want 125.
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Then I'm splitting the difference.
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I think we're at 113 after, after two years, which is you know more than two, that's more than one episode a week.
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Yeah, so technically we come out ahead, we come out staying on on track with our, our schedule.
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That's weird, man.
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It's crazy to think.
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For like the last two years we've pretty much had four episodes a month of us just talking to each other, blast it out into the internet.
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It's a lot just for, like the world to like listen to.
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We've done quite a few of these.
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It's been a lot of time doing, you know, some talking.
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For sure it's been a.
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I think what we're shorting some of our people, though, is certainly uh, and to no fault of your own, but maybe me would be brews and reviews content.
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Brews and reviews content.
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People out there don't know what movies to watch, what tv shows are worth their lost, they're lost they're just.
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They're just drinking Coors Banquet because they're afraid to buy a bad beer.
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Yep and the like I will say we are failing people because there's just so much out there and it's all crap.
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There's so much bad stuff out there I gotta get to work on, you know, like bad movies, just stuff that's not worth your time.
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You know, oh yeah, and so the I don't know.
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I guess that's part of it.
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It's hard to.
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I don't know Like everybody I talk to will be like this new show, but they're all saying like different shows, there's a lot of stuff out there.
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Do you see that episode of seinfeld last week?
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I was like, oh yeah, of course you know.
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Did you watch seinfeld serioli?
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Like not, as it came out, because I was.
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I was gonna say you were young, but I do know, like like my dad and his friends they were primate because, like it was just, that was free tv.
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That was like what you got the only thing was on right and you didn't need cable for sure but just the sheer amount of stuff that's just pumping out.
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Yeah, I'm just like I have trouble keeping up with it all um well, I just want to say, man, I've enjoyed doing it with you.
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Me too.
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And I enjoy now that we are in the final stretch in home runs, because we joked in season one early on that we would get our wives to become best friends and hang out and just do stuff.
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And now every time we do the podcast, our wives are hanging out at your place doing stuff like a craft night tonight that's true, and we've even at times changed the schedule of the show to accommodate to our wife's friendship yeah so there you go, it's, pretty crazy.
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It's pretty crazy.
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So what's what's the next uh thing?
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we need to uh, you know, speak into the future uh, I think the next thing that we need is here's my next goal now for the podcast it's a big one.
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Alright, that we get invited to like a panel thing.
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Okay, like someone has us come to a beer con or something, we sit in like panel Panel judge or whatever.
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And I hope it's something that for some reason goes wildly viral that we don't know anything about, but it just gets out of control.
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Like you know, we're just it.
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Just I just said something.
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It got a little crazy.
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People heard it and now we're now we found ourselves, like you know, doing something like they you know, it sounds like you know.
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Like you know, it sounds like you know.
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Like we get.
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We get invited to review.
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Like to like a Singapore beer Kong.
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Exactly, exactly, and we're like, like you mispronounce the way you say, like hello, and like what is Singapore's language?
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Is it Thai?
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I don't know.
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You should look it up.
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It's like it's a it's an iteration of like Vietnamese.
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It's an iteration of Vietnamese which is an iteration of Chinese, I'm pretty sure.
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You might have just made a lot of people.
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I know this, I know that.
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Vietnamese uses the same characters as the Chinese alphabet.
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Malay, malaysia, singapore, malay.
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Thai.
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Okay, come on, guys, there we go.
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You pronounced the wrong thing wrong.
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You pretty much just tell them all to go bend over.
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That's why it's or like they all think, that you are Like the Beer man, the pinnacle expert of it, and you're standing there.
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And you get up for the speech and you're just like Tastes, like pine, cum write it down hey, I think a lot of people have found themselves in that situation where, like not, and maybe not that drastically the expert, exactly, yeah, we're 100, just faking it till they make it.
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You know how they end up here.
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They don't know.
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But bro, dude.
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I had just finished my data science program and I was just, I just knew how LinkedIn worked.
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I was just like, even today, right now, like I got, I'm a special LinkedIn account.
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Like you don't get to request me to be a connection, you get to follow me.
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Oh, wow, like, so, like I, I monetized the linkedin like networking because I was like I need a job and this is a great way to do it.
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Um and uh, I was getting invitations to speak at like online press things in like 2021 at like because of covid and all that.
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Oh wow like talk to our, like our students talk to our, like you know, computer science, data science students, and I was like all right, nice, and like I was sick I meant to.
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I was on a program where people were like mentor, like give your time, and mentor like, uh, like people of color who want to get into data science.
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I was like sweet.
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So I was like mentoring some people in Africa for a while.
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I love it.
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Yeah, it was cool, I like it.
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It'd be kind of like I was totally like I mean, I knew what I was talking about but I had no like history or credentials to support it.
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It's like the movie Big it was Tom Hanks.
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He's just like yeah, but now he's like finds himself in the c-suite.
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Yeah, he's in the c-suite, like presenting and like, dude, that's a great.
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And then the rubber beats the road and it's like you're standing there like what a great movie that would never be made today.
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Yeah, like because she totally has sex with him and then she finds out later he was just a kid in a man's body.
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Yep, and like that was that one never will go the other direction.
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To never be made today three you know, relevantly wise as an adult, looking at it with, like my eyes now, yeah, it's weird I will say weird thing back in the day.
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It did go the other way too, though, with the movie 13 going on 30.
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Oh it did, didn't it?
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Yeah, I don't know if it went quite all the way as that scene did, though we're like I'll say this I saw the movie big at a relatively young age.
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I saw it at like five yeah, and it's like this he's.
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I do have a memory of tom hanks grabbing a.
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He opens her shirt and he's grabbing the bra boob.
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Yeah, it's a covered boob, but the bra he's not sure how to grab it.
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It's kind of now I'd watch it and be like this is funny, watching like a like a kid try to figure out what to do.
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But as a child I was like what the fuck are they doing?
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And I was old enough.
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I was like, like I said, I was six years old, like I remember, like it had the vhs.
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I was like go back to dancing on piano keys, go back rewind.
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Yeah, why are they doing this?
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I?
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was at that age where it was in the middle.
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Like this isn't good mom?
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why is he joking?
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Why are they fighting?
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oh my god and so, anyways, all right.
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In a couple of years we'll find ourselves there.
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We'll be on a panel.
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We'll be on a panel.
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Anyways, we're talking about stuff, doggy I got a doggy now, yep, and the dog is awesome.
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Anatolian Shepherd.
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She's 11 months, 80 pounds, a big, big doggy.
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I didn't realize she was supposed to kind of such a puppy.
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She is 11 months, they say.
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They're like.
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They say they don't start coming out of the puppy brain until like 18 months, like it's full grown, but still.
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Well.
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They say more or, but still more or less.
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They say you can't run with them.
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Actually the shepherd dogs like that.
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You can't run until their past 18 months because their bone plates, like for their joints, haven't finished growing all the way.
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And if you run with them while they're too young they just get premature arthritis.
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I could say it's especially like when I'm on pavement and I'm running major on.
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They're made to run in the, in the dirt, in the grassy hills yeah, well, I mean to put it in perspective.
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If you people you know at home, if our, if our kin are listening, look up a great pyrenees or um anatolian shepherd versus coyotes.
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There was Shepard vs Coyotes.
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There was this video, bro.
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It went viral a while ago Some farmer here in the US he went outside and his great Pyrenees, that he had just bought two days before, stood by him to confront these 13 coyotes and killed eight of them in the span of under two minutes and then ran off after the rest of them.
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He's span of like under two minutes and then like, ran off after the rest of them.
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He's like that dog's dead, damn, and he was sad.
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Two days later comes back just covered in blood.
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I love it, just matted and um, those animals like, yeah, like they're, like, they are true livestock guardian dogs, but mine is not.
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Mine is not.
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She's a big sweet girl who loves pets.
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She's way more pets motivated than food motivated which is a good thing I like a big dog, that doesn't.
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That's not like a fat big dog, you know what I mean.
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Like she, she is happy to get her treats and meal time, but like she would, she will jump through hoops just to have you rub her belly, and a dog that's not controlled by its stomach is good.
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Oh yeah, like, because like very not reactive, yeah because you can use treats to train any dog, but then especially like, yeah, a dog who's like you know they're not going to be snapping at a kid when it comes by the bowl, and stuff like that yeah, dude, those big dogs, those shepherd dogs, um, my dad had a friend who's a family ranch.
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They would send out, um, a whole pack of great pyrenees really just to defend the herd out on this huge ranch and they would just send them out for days at a time and, yeah, they would run down coyotes, the pack together where they'd run down a coyote full speed, grab it by the back of the neck, flip it over.
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The pack would jump on it and just kill it and just keep rolling and they would just protect all the livestock.
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And they'd come back in after being out.
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Like you said, they're just covered and a great parent is just like a pure white dog.
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They'd come in just covered in blood.
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They'd just hose them down outside, let them rest for a few days with the family.
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Chill, a chill relaxed dog.
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We'll never bite your kid Hanging out.
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Yeah, few days with the family chill, the chill, relaxed dog will never bite your kid hanging out yeah, wonderful dog.
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And then, when it's time to go to work again, they just sick them out there how do they?
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I've?
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I was looking, I was seeing how the someone was showing like how the great, how the anatolians play and like they play practice the neck break, bite right.
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But I don't know you're saying they flip.
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You've seen the Like the Great Pyrenees Flip them over and what?
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Well, that's what I mean.
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Like they run them down, get they reach over, grab them on the back of the neck, flip them so it is a neck breaking bite, and then they make sure it's dead, oh yeah.
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Dude.
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The farmer was like he killed.
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He killed the first three coyotes in 30 seconds, just breakneck, breakneck, breakneck.
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And I was like holy shit.
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And then it shows a picture of the dog right, it's got like one white eye and it's just like one ear, is like no fur on it anymore and I'm like that's a freaking monster dude, that thing is a machine dude, uh.
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But anyways, I love her.
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She's terrified of the stairs, though man Straight up like whines, whimpers, shakes, refuses, will like freeze, tense up, spring around to try to get away from the stairs, you know what I mean.
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And so I carried her up on them and stuff and tried to get her to come down and she just panicked, slid down, ran down them, kind of.
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She just panicked, slid down, ran down him, kind of.
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And it just sucks because you don't want her to think poorly of you or start to mistrust you, because one, they are insanely smart dogs.
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They are very emotional dogs, which is weird.
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I've never had a dog pout like that.
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You know what I mean.
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I've just seen dogs demonstrate like affection, confusion, uh, fear, and like desire.
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You know what I mean.
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Like those are the things, like those are the four things you usually see almost all dogs do.
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Like this dog will straight up like pout and and I think she can be spiteful and I think, like it's one of those.
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It's really weird Like she has like a full attitude.
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And so, all that said, I did a little bit of shopping around today.
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Man Called up some dog trainers, got their quotes on what it would be to come to my house and help me teach my dog how to go up the stairs, what it would be to come to my house and help me teach my dog how to go up the stairs and like, not do, like you know, harm to her or anything and not hurt our, her, trust in me or respect for me as the pack leader.
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Right dude.
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First quote, take a guess.
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First quote for coming to my home dog, dog behavior therapist one appointment or like for, like a whole package.
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Well, it's kind of yeah, I guess that's a little misleading right.
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The whole thing is like they.
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It's a one-time upfront cost for the lifetime of the dog and they'll just come to your house and do training.
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Oh, if it's lifetime for the dog but it's like one of those things like how often are you gonna call them when your dog's five or older.
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that'd be like 1500 bucks.
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Yeah, 16, it was like 1690, yeah1,500.
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So okay, yeah, but which is also like a lot of money.
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That's a shitload of money up front, especially for like learning to go up the stairs.
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Well, and the thing is, my dog is doing great with sit.
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She's doing great with, you know, house trained, oh yeah.
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So like, yeah, she knows when to go potty and she's not had any mistakes.
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She doesn't chew on slippers, she's not trying to dart off the leash when we're outside, so it's like all the other stuff she's got.
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I just want her to use the damn stairs so that way, like I know in a fire, I can get her out or something.
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You know what I mean.
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Yeah, cause it's like it's debilitating for her, it's like, and I, I was gonna bring her here tonight, but she can't go up the damn stairs.
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It's hard for you, it's hard for her.
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And so it's like, definitely, and yeah, I wondered like, uh, from a business owner perspective, that's kind of why I threw that number out there, because it'd be like, you know, especially lifetime of a dog, because, man, you're gonna have a lot of clients you go to four times, or let's say, you have a lot of clients you go to 10 times, so it's like 125 a session, but then you're gonna have that lady that just I would never offer a lifetime of the dog thing because I'd be every single week having some strict nine least treats.
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You know what I mean.
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Like yeah, like on that 118th visit that year, like what have I done to myself?
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But at the same time, the like yes, that's why I threw that number out there from a business perspective, but then from a consumer, pet owner perspective, it's pretty brutal, you know.
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It's like that's a chunk of change, you know.
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Well, here's the thing though it's a corporation they're licensed in, like the whole US internationalS international.
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Oh, I see, and they just happen to have two of their trainers that they partner with in Colorado.
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That trainer's not making that money.
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Nope, the trainer's not making that money.
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The trainer's getting paid a salary that you know the rest of the money and stuff being paid across the world going into this organization.
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So, anyways, I was like, all right, let me look up some people who have like these credentials and can you know, back them up with like the training.
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So I found a doctor, a doctor, doggy, behavioral psychiatrist and she's like here's how you know she's good at it, she's older, she's like past the age of retirement, okay, and she's been doing it for 40 years.
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That and the reviews.
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How many years is that in dog years?
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Oh shit.
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Generations of dogs know about her.
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She's been passed down, named, no.
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Here's the big thing about it, too is that.