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The Mick & Pat Show - New Boots and Holiday Cheer
December 05, 2024

The Mick & Pat Show - New Boots and Holiday Cheer

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Ever imagined being catapulted into the limelight as a beer convention judge with absolutely no expertise? Buckle up for a whirlwind of humorous tales, from unexpected invitations to mentor potential data scientists to the whimsical dreams of dog adventures. Get ready to chuckle as we recount our own misadventures with cowboy boots, tackle the cowboy boot aesthetics debate, and share a festive mix-up involving Christmas lights and a ladder that’s just too short.

Join us as we celebrate the start of our third podcast season, with a heartwarming reflection on the friendships that have formed along the way—including those of our wives who have become our greatest supporters. We tackle everything from the psychological impacts of welcoming a new pet to the ethics of waterfowl hunting, where the thrill of the hunt meets the responsibility of teaching young hunters. Our signature "Brews and Reviews" segment returns, offering a delicious dive into the overwhelming world of media and craft brews.

As Christmas approaches, we navigate the charming chaos of holiday decorations, nostalgic childhood memories, and a spontaneous yard surprise that involves an inflatable Santa and some duck decoys. Don't miss our playful exchange of boot stories and a teaser for an exciting gift exchange with a mystery gift from Billie Jean. Plus, we cherish our listeners’ feedback, like AuraBund’s heartfelt review of our East of Eden series, reaffirming our dedication to bringing thoughtful and engaging content to your ears.

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Chapters

00:51 - Reflections on Friendship and Podcasting

06:38 - Big Dogs

19:28 - Expert Dog Trainer and Christmas Lights

28:55 - Family Christmas Lights Set-Up

42:18 - Ethics of Waterfowl Hunting

47:00 - Beer Box Dilemma and Cowboy Boots

57:50 - Selecting Cowboy Boot Aesthetics

01:08:28 - Christmas Gift Exchange Plans

01:17:10 - Photography, Podcasting, and Listener Appreciation

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Well, well, well, pat, oh, damn what.

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My caribou.

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He's whipped out a caribou on the table.

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Dude, I love this knife so much I actually, if you pull it right out of your pocket, it's just open it auto-ejects.

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Yep, I have that problem myself.

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Auto-eject I don't think you do.

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I think you have three kids, hey.

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It happens.

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Anyways, I've been having dreams since I got my dog.

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Almost every night I dream that I have to kill another dog.

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Like I'm having the dream I'm walking my dog, uh-huh, and some dog comes at us out of the darkness and latches onto my dog and I just immediately go for this and I'm just stabbing that dog and I don't know like.

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What's that say about?

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Like, when something comes into your life and all of a sudden you just love it a lot and it totally changes your whole psychology and how you view like and like what you're worried about.

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Because, like my other, before I got this dog dude, my stress dreams were teeth falling out.

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That was my stress dream.

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And that one that happens a lot of people, that one that happens a lot of people.

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I think that, uh, when you I'm sure that someone educated has something to say about this, but what I'm gonna say about it is that you know just what you're thinking about.

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The things that are on your mind is what comes up in your dreams, and the end, like because you you're also you're putting in a lot of time and effort on this, but you know, in on this blending of the family, on this bringing in a ruffian off the street that needs a little extra love, yeah, she's a good girl, though, for sure, for sure.

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She just is a big wussy when it comes to the stairs, mm-hmm.

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And before we get too far going, I guess we should just welcome our listeners to season three of the mickey pat show officially.

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Yeah, this, this is officially episode one of season three.

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Guess how many episodes we have out right now?

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You should, probably.

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You should know this.

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How many episodes are in our playlist without looking it up?

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I mean, I don't 150 no, is that over that's?

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Over.

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That's more.

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Yeah, but we're like because sometimes we're for a while back back that we were running two a week.

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We did a little bit, we did some two a week for a while, you know.

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So have we had our hundredth yet?

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Oh yeah, all right.

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So so we're in between one, so 125, we want 125.

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Then I'm splitting the difference.

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I think we're at 113 after, after two years, which is you know more than two, that's more than one episode a week.

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Yeah, so technically we come out ahead, we come out staying on on track with our, our schedule.

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That's weird, man.

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It's crazy to think.

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For like the last two years we've pretty much had four episodes a month of us just talking to each other, blast it out into the internet.

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It's a lot just for, like the world to like listen to.

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We've done quite a few of these.

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It's been a lot of time doing, you know, some talking.

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For sure it's been a.

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I think what we're shorting some of our people, though, is certainly uh, and to no fault of your own, but maybe me would be brews and reviews content.

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Brews and reviews content.

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People out there don't know what movies to watch, what tv shows are worth their lost, they're lost they're just.

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They're just drinking Coors Banquet because they're afraid to buy a bad beer.

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Yep and the like I will say we are failing people because there's just so much out there and it's all crap.

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There's so much bad stuff out there I gotta get to work on, you know, like bad movies, just stuff that's not worth your time.

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You know, oh yeah, and so the I don't know.

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I guess that's part of it.

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It's hard to.

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I don't know Like everybody I talk to will be like this new show, but they're all saying like different shows, there's a lot of stuff out there.

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Do you see that episode of seinfeld last week?

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I was like, oh yeah, of course you know.

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Did you watch seinfeld serioli?

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Like not, as it came out, because I was.

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I was gonna say you were young, but I do know, like like my dad and his friends they were primate because, like it was just, that was free tv.

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That was like what you got the only thing was on right and you didn't need cable for sure but just the sheer amount of stuff that's just pumping out.

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Yeah, I'm just like I have trouble keeping up with it all um well, I just want to say, man, I've enjoyed doing it with you.

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Me too.

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And I enjoy now that we are in the final stretch in home runs, because we joked in season one early on that we would get our wives to become best friends and hang out and just do stuff.

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And now every time we do the podcast, our wives are hanging out at your place doing stuff like a craft night tonight that's true, and we've even at times changed the schedule of the show to accommodate to our wife's friendship yeah so there you go, it's, pretty crazy.

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It's pretty crazy.

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So what's what's the next uh thing?

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we need to uh, you know, speak into the future uh, I think the next thing that we need is here's my next goal now for the podcast it's a big one.

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Alright, that we get invited to like a panel thing.

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Okay, like someone has us come to a beer con or something, we sit in like panel Panel judge or whatever.

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And I hope it's something that for some reason goes wildly viral that we don't know anything about, but it just gets out of control.

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Like you know, we're just it.

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Just I just said something.

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It got a little crazy.

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People heard it and now we're now we found ourselves, like you know, doing something like they you know, it sounds like you know.

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Like you know, it sounds like you know.

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Like we get.

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We get invited to review.

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Like to like a Singapore beer Kong.

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Exactly, exactly, and we're like, like you mispronounce the way you say, like hello, and like what is Singapore's language?

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Is it Thai?

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I don't know.

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You should look it up.

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It's like it's a it's an iteration of like Vietnamese.

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It's an iteration of Vietnamese which is an iteration of Chinese, I'm pretty sure.

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You might have just made a lot of people.

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I know this, I know that.

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Vietnamese uses the same characters as the Chinese alphabet.

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Malay, malaysia, singapore, malay.

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Thai.

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Okay, come on, guys, there we go.

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You pronounced the wrong thing wrong.

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You pretty much just tell them all to go bend over.

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That's why it's or like they all think, that you are Like the Beer man, the pinnacle expert of it, and you're standing there.

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And you get up for the speech and you're just like Tastes, like pine, cum write it down hey, I think a lot of people have found themselves in that situation where, like not, and maybe not that drastically the expert, exactly, yeah, we're 100, just faking it till they make it.

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You know how they end up here.

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They don't know.

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But bro, dude.

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I had just finished my data science program and I was just, I just knew how LinkedIn worked.

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I was just like, even today, right now, like I got, I'm a special LinkedIn account.

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Like you don't get to request me to be a connection, you get to follow me.

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Oh, wow, like, so, like I, I monetized the linkedin like networking because I was like I need a job and this is a great way to do it.

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Um and uh, I was getting invitations to speak at like online press things in like 2021 at like because of covid and all that.

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Oh wow like talk to our, like our students talk to our, like you know, computer science, data science students, and I was like all right, nice, and like I was sick I meant to.

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I was on a program where people were like mentor, like give your time, and mentor like, uh, like people of color who want to get into data science.

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I was like sweet.

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So I was like mentoring some people in Africa for a while.

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I love it.

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Yeah, it was cool, I like it.

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It'd be kind of like I was totally like I mean, I knew what I was talking about but I had no like history or credentials to support it.

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It's like the movie Big it was Tom Hanks.

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He's just like yeah, but now he's like finds himself in the c-suite.

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Yeah, he's in the c-suite, like presenting and like, dude, that's a great.

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And then the rubber beats the road and it's like you're standing there like what a great movie that would never be made today.

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Yeah, like because she totally has sex with him and then she finds out later he was just a kid in a man's body.

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Yep, and like that was that one never will go the other direction.

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To never be made today three you know, relevantly wise as an adult, looking at it with, like my eyes now, yeah, it's weird I will say weird thing back in the day.

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It did go the other way too, though, with the movie 13 going on 30.

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Oh it did, didn't it?

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Yeah, I don't know if it went quite all the way as that scene did, though we're like I'll say this I saw the movie big at a relatively young age.

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I saw it at like five yeah, and it's like this he's.

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I do have a memory of tom hanks grabbing a.

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He opens her shirt and he's grabbing the bra boob.

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Yeah, it's a covered boob, but the bra he's not sure how to grab it.

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It's kind of now I'd watch it and be like this is funny, watching like a like a kid try to figure out what to do.

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But as a child I was like what the fuck are they doing?

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And I was old enough.

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I was like, like I said, I was six years old, like I remember, like it had the vhs.

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I was like go back to dancing on piano keys, go back rewind.

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Yeah, why are they doing this?

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I?

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was at that age where it was in the middle.

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Like this isn't good mom?

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why is he joking?

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Why are they fighting?

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oh my god and so, anyways, all right.

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In a couple of years we'll find ourselves there.

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We'll be on a panel.

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We'll be on a panel.

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Anyways, we're talking about stuff, doggy I got a doggy now, yep, and the dog is awesome.

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Anatolian Shepherd.

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She's 11 months, 80 pounds, a big, big doggy.

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I didn't realize she was supposed to kind of such a puppy.

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She is 11 months, they say.

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They're like.

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They say they don't start coming out of the puppy brain until like 18 months, like it's full grown, but still.

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Well.

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They say more or, but still more or less.

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They say you can't run with them.

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Actually the shepherd dogs like that.

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You can't run until their past 18 months because their bone plates, like for their joints, haven't finished growing all the way.

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And if you run with them while they're too young they just get premature arthritis.

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I could say it's especially like when I'm on pavement and I'm running major on.

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They're made to run in the, in the dirt, in the grassy hills yeah, well, I mean to put it in perspective.

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If you people you know at home, if our, if our kin are listening, look up a great pyrenees or um anatolian shepherd versus coyotes.

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There was Shepard vs Coyotes.

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There was this video, bro.

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It went viral a while ago Some farmer here in the US he went outside and his great Pyrenees, that he had just bought two days before, stood by him to confront these 13 coyotes and killed eight of them in the span of under two minutes and then ran off after the rest of them.

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He's span of like under two minutes and then like, ran off after the rest of them.

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He's like that dog's dead, damn, and he was sad.

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Two days later comes back just covered in blood.

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I love it, just matted and um, those animals like, yeah, like they're, like, they are true livestock guardian dogs, but mine is not.

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Mine is not.

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She's a big sweet girl who loves pets.

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She's way more pets motivated than food motivated which is a good thing I like a big dog, that doesn't.

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That's not like a fat big dog, you know what I mean.

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Like she, she is happy to get her treats and meal time, but like she would, she will jump through hoops just to have you rub her belly, and a dog that's not controlled by its stomach is good.

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Oh yeah, like, because like very not reactive, yeah because you can use treats to train any dog, but then especially like, yeah, a dog who's like you know they're not going to be snapping at a kid when it comes by the bowl, and stuff like that yeah, dude, those big dogs, those shepherd dogs, um, my dad had a friend who's a family ranch.

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They would send out, um, a whole pack of great pyrenees really just to defend the herd out on this huge ranch and they would just send them out for days at a time and, yeah, they would run down coyotes, the pack together where they'd run down a coyote full speed, grab it by the back of the neck, flip it over.

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The pack would jump on it and just kill it and just keep rolling and they would just protect all the livestock.

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And they'd come back in after being out.

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Like you said, they're just covered and a great parent is just like a pure white dog.

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They'd come in just covered in blood.

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They'd just hose them down outside, let them rest for a few days with the family.

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Chill, a chill relaxed dog.

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We'll never bite your kid Hanging out.

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Yeah, few days with the family chill, the chill, relaxed dog will never bite your kid hanging out yeah, wonderful dog.

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And then, when it's time to go to work again, they just sick them out there how do they?

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I've?

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I was looking, I was seeing how the someone was showing like how the great, how the anatolians play and like they play practice the neck break, bite right.

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But I don't know you're saying they flip.

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You've seen the Like the Great Pyrenees Flip them over and what?

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Well, that's what I mean.

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Like they run them down, get they reach over, grab them on the back of the neck, flip them so it is a neck breaking bite, and then they make sure it's dead, oh yeah.

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Dude.

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The farmer was like he killed.

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He killed the first three coyotes in 30 seconds, just breakneck, breakneck, breakneck.

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And I was like holy shit.

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And then it shows a picture of the dog right, it's got like one white eye and it's just like one ear, is like no fur on it anymore and I'm like that's a freaking monster dude, that thing is a machine dude, uh.

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But anyways, I love her.

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She's terrified of the stairs, though man Straight up like whines, whimpers, shakes, refuses, will like freeze, tense up, spring around to try to get away from the stairs, you know what I mean.

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And so I carried her up on them and stuff and tried to get her to come down and she just panicked, slid down, ran down them, kind of.

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She just panicked, slid down, ran down him, kind of.

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And it just sucks because you don't want her to think poorly of you or start to mistrust you, because one, they are insanely smart dogs.

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They are very emotional dogs, which is weird.

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I've never had a dog pout like that.

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You know what I mean.

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I've just seen dogs demonstrate like affection, confusion, uh, fear, and like desire.

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You know what I mean.

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Like those are the things, like those are the four things you usually see almost all dogs do.

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Like this dog will straight up like pout and and I think she can be spiteful and I think, like it's one of those.

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It's really weird Like she has like a full attitude.

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And so, all that said, I did a little bit of shopping around today.

00:16:16.793 --> 00:16:32.042
Man Called up some dog trainers, got their quotes on what it would be to come to my house and help me teach my dog how to go up the stairs, what it would be to come to my house and help me teach my dog how to go up the stairs and like, not do, like you know, harm to her or anything and not hurt our, her, trust in me or respect for me as the pack leader.

00:16:32.042 --> 00:16:33.524
Right dude.

00:16:33.524 --> 00:16:36.172
First quote, take a guess.

00:16:36.172 --> 00:16:42.644
First quote for coming to my home dog, dog behavior therapist one appointment or like for, like a whole package.

00:16:42.784 --> 00:16:45.749
Well, it's kind of yeah, I guess that's a little misleading right.

00:16:45.749 --> 00:16:47.410
The whole thing is like they.

00:16:47.410 --> 00:16:53.207
It's a one-time upfront cost for the lifetime of the dog and they'll just come to your house and do training.

00:16:53.207 --> 00:16:58.260
Oh, if it's lifetime for the dog but it's like one of those things like how often are you gonna call them when your dog's five or older.

00:16:58.301 --> 00:16:59.582
that'd be like 1500 bucks.

00:16:59.582 --> 00:17:03.409
Yeah, 16, it was like 1690, yeah1,500.

00:17:03.409 --> 00:17:06.934
So okay, yeah, but which is also like a lot of money.

00:17:06.934 --> 00:17:12.250
That's a shitload of money up front, especially for like learning to go up the stairs.

00:17:12.539 --> 00:17:15.269
Well, and the thing is, my dog is doing great with sit.

00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:18.749
She's doing great with, you know, house trained, oh yeah.

00:17:18.749 --> 00:17:23.555
So like, yeah, she knows when to go potty and she's not had any mistakes.

00:17:23.555 --> 00:17:31.105
She doesn't chew on slippers, she's not trying to dart off the leash when we're outside, so it's like all the other stuff she's got.

00:17:31.105 --> 00:17:36.993
I just want her to use the damn stairs so that way, like I know in a fire, I can get her out or something.

00:17:36.993 --> 00:17:37.556
You know what I mean.

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Yeah, cause it's like it's debilitating for her, it's like, and I, I was gonna bring her here tonight, but she can't go up the damn stairs.

00:17:52.244 --> 00:17:52.988
It's hard for you, it's hard for her.

00:17:52.988 --> 00:18:15.840
And so it's like, definitely, and yeah, I wondered like, uh, from a business owner perspective, that's kind of why I threw that number out there, because it'd be like, you know, especially lifetime of a dog, because, man, you're gonna have a lot of clients you go to four times, or let's say, you have a lot of clients you go to 10 times, so it's like 125 a session, but then you're gonna have that lady that just I would never offer a lifetime of the dog thing because I'd be every single week having some strict nine least treats.

00:18:15.881 --> 00:18:16.340
You know what I mean.

00:18:16.340 --> 00:18:22.089
Like yeah, like on that 118th visit that year, like what have I done to myself?

00:18:22.089 --> 00:18:36.528
But at the same time, the like yes, that's why I threw that number out there from a business perspective, but then from a consumer, pet owner perspective, it's pretty brutal, you know.

00:18:36.528 --> 00:18:39.221
It's like that's a chunk of change, you know.

00:18:40.164 --> 00:18:47.436
Well, here's the thing though it's a corporation they're licensed in, like the whole US internationalS international.

00:18:47.436 --> 00:18:51.519
Oh, I see, and they just happen to have two of their trainers that they partner with in Colorado.

00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:52.986
That trainer's not making that money.

00:18:53.146 --> 00:18:54.786
Nope, the trainer's not making that money.

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The trainer's getting paid a salary that you know the rest of the money and stuff being paid across the world going into this organization.

00:19:04.211 --> 00:19:13.839
So, anyways, I was like, all right, let me look up some people who have like these credentials and can you know, back them up with like the training.

00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:30.406
So I found a doctor, a doctor, doggy, behavioral psychiatrist and she's like here's how you know she's good at it, she's older, she's like past the age of retirement, okay, and she's been doing it for 40 years.

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That and the reviews.

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How many years is that in dog years?

00:19:34.766 --> 00:19:35.409
Oh shit.

00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:37.707
Generations of dogs know about her.

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She's been passed down, named, no.

00:19:40.560 --> 00:19:42.243
Here's the big thing about it, too is that.

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This is why I really got excited about it.

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She's a trainer.

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She's got all this like pedigree stuff regarding, like you know, organizations she's worked for and all that, but she consistently trains award-winning dogs, okay, and she's local.

00:20:01.381 --> 00:20:15.729
And so I was like, damn, that's actually way more of like a pedigree, you know thing than like Joe Schmoe, who's like I have my class at the park and like I'll drive to your house and teach her.

00:20:16.141 --> 00:20:23.808
So, anyways, I called her up, this frigging fountain of wisdom, doggy knowledge lady, and I say, hey, doc, here's the situation with my dog.

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She's a sweet girl, no reactive bad behavior, uh.

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But she's just terrified of these stairs and I don't want to hurt her, I don't want to scare her or damage her trust.

00:20:34.686 --> 00:20:37.240
I just need to know if I'm doing the right thing and you can tell me.

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But I think you gotta come to my house to do it.

00:20:39.544 --> 00:20:48.605
She's like 200 bucks December 3rd I'll be there and I was like, oh, fucking deal bro Are you kidding me?

00:20:49.861 --> 00:20:51.345
200 bucks versus 16?

00:20:51.345 --> 00:20:53.571
Oh yeah, 17, basically.

00:20:53.900 --> 00:21:00.490
And because in one session they'll teach you all you need to know three to five techniques.

00:21:00.490 --> 00:21:04.550
You will learn that in that session and then you just work on it.

00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:05.477
Yeah exactly techniques.

00:21:05.477 --> 00:21:06.405
Yeah, you will learn that in that session and then you just work on it.

00:21:06.405 --> 00:21:07.744
Yeah, exactly so.

00:21:07.765 --> 00:21:21.701
Um, anyways, I just know we were talking about scouting around for a deal cutting out middleman and I was like I'm not paying some interstate international corpo when I could just go direct to an expert and, just you know, schedule time with them.

00:21:21.701 --> 00:21:26.965
So call around folks, do your research, cut out the middleman, save yourself a dime.

00:21:26.965 --> 00:21:40.316
Um, but with that Pat, something I really enjoyed seeing that last night you had the pleasure of setting up Christmas lights with your boys.

00:21:40.316 --> 00:21:52.152
This is true, and I would love to hear what that's like, because I set up christmas lights a couple strings of them with my wife, yep and uh, it was great, I gave.

00:21:52.152 --> 00:21:56.387
I looked her dead in the eyes while she was holding the lights and making sure the ladder didn't tip over.

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Actually, let me say this this is a brief, short, funny story, you'll appreciate it.

00:22:01.106 --> 00:22:08.667
Her and my mother, so her mother-in-law, go to the store to buy our first ladder as a married couple, let's go.

00:22:08.708 --> 00:22:09.288
That's a step.

00:22:09.288 --> 00:22:12.134
That's a step up, several steps up, wow, nice.

00:22:13.761 --> 00:22:24.130
And I say, hey, you should probably get this one Now, and this is not me being right or anything, I'm just like you should probably get this one, because I I think the other one is going to be a little too short.

00:22:24.130 --> 00:22:26.739
She's like, well, I don't think we can fit it in my car.

00:22:26.739 --> 00:22:31.493
I was like, well, you got a rack and it makes sense, why not buy some roof ties?

00:22:31.955 --> 00:22:32.778
and ratchet clips.

00:22:32.838 --> 00:22:38.992
Yeah, because like we need it, we need those too, right yeah and so lo and behold, though, what do they come home with?

00:22:38.992 --> 00:22:42.965
Not the eight foot ladder, but the six foot ladder that fits in the car.

00:22:43.207 --> 00:22:44.808
That is not tall enough.

00:22:44.969 --> 00:23:01.327
And then, as soon as it got folded out, they knew it was not tall enough, and it was a bummer thing of oh it's not tall enough, we're not going to get Christmas lights up tonight and I was like you and me will go back with the four runner, we'll return this and get the one that's big enough and we'll get ratchet clamps if we need to.

00:23:01.327 --> 00:23:06.333
Then we if we need to, and we went and it was not like a I was right, you were wrong thing, I was like I.

00:23:06.333 --> 00:23:08.095
It was genuinely like a light-hearted thing.

00:23:08.095 --> 00:23:12.990
I was like how often do you think they see a wife come in, buy something after thinking it through, go home?

00:23:14.013 --> 00:23:20.681
one hour later she's back with her husband with the bigger car returning to getting the bigger one, like I was like how do you think you know it was, it was not a.

00:23:20.681 --> 00:23:22.883
She didn't feel like it was me making fun of her in front of her right.

00:23:22.883 --> 00:23:23.323
You know, it was not a.

00:23:23.323 --> 00:23:26.425
She didn't feel like it was me making fun of her Right, and it was just kind of funny.

00:23:26.425 --> 00:23:34.472
And then while we were carrying the ladder out, I was like I can't remember how to freaking get ratchet clamps started, right, and I was looking at a video.

00:23:34.472 --> 00:23:38.596
I was like these are not the same ratchet clamps I got, like mine are a different design.

00:23:38.596 --> 00:23:40.461
How do I get these things going?

00:23:40.461 --> 00:23:46.374
And while I'm fiddling around with him, trying to get him started so I could ratchet, put it on my roof, dude Farmer Bob rolls up.

00:23:47.503 --> 00:23:51.690
His name was Greg and he's like you guys just buy a ladder.

00:23:51.690 --> 00:23:53.286
I was like, yep, and he's an old guy.

00:23:53.286 --> 00:23:56.749
He's got a Pepsi can in the bed of his truck.

00:23:56.749 --> 00:23:57.451
That's older than me.

00:23:57.451 --> 00:23:58.825
He's not really that old.

00:23:58.825 --> 00:24:00.519
I shouldn't say that, especially in case he's listening.

00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:11.023
He's a really nice guy To a different generation yeah, yeah, and I was like, yeah, just trying to figure out how to get these straps going, but we got to get this ladder back so we could put up christmas lights.

00:24:11.365 --> 00:24:13.721
He's like all right and then he kind of moseys away and then he comes back.

00:24:13.721 --> 00:24:15.164
He's like where you live.

00:24:15.164 --> 00:24:18.412
I was like over here on right next to the high school.

00:24:18.412 --> 00:24:21.267
He's like, oh, I'm just down the corner from there with the red silo.

00:24:21.267 --> 00:24:26.260
I'm like, oh well, he's like, throw it in the truck, I'll drive it out over, I'll pull you out.

00:24:26.280 --> 00:24:27.242
I was like, all right, sick.

00:24:27.242 --> 00:24:28.547
We were rolling over there.

00:24:28.547 --> 00:24:31.323
I offered him a beer and a pepsi and he was like, nah, I'm good.

00:24:31.323 --> 00:24:35.285
And I was like, all right, man, well, you know where I live, come on over for pie or beer, whatever you want.

00:24:35.285 --> 00:24:37.452
And he was like, all right, it was.

00:24:37.452 --> 00:24:39.259
It was just good small town moment.

00:24:39.259 --> 00:24:39.840
You know what I mean?

00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:40.342
That's great.

00:24:40.342 --> 00:24:45.771
And then, uh, we got the ladder out, had the christmas lights, we started going.

00:24:45.771 --> 00:25:02.692
I was like, all right, I don't want to go too far, because I need her to take a look at them, because I don't want to undo them after I've done everything and like, risk my life hanging these on the shingles and because you've got a tall, like if you were going full bore, it's like yeah, you need.

00:25:02.712 --> 00:25:06.167
You need it 30 feet up, right so you're yeah, but yeah.

00:25:06.189 --> 00:25:22.525
So if it, and because you want them to look right, you got to get them to well, I don't care if they look right, I just want them to look right to her this is wisdom and so, um, she was looking and I was like, all right, come back, what are we doing with these ones?

00:25:22.744 --> 00:25:24.961
like she's like well, I just, I don't know, like what do you think?

00:25:24.961 --> 00:25:27.597
And I just like had that moment with the wife.

00:25:27.597 --> 00:25:28.300
You know where was.

00:25:28.300 --> 00:25:40.941
There was no animosity, no frustration, but it was just like we speak through the the the fog of female to male and it was just like that eye contact me on the ladder and her like holding the lights.

00:25:40.941 --> 00:25:45.648
I was like all that matters is that it is what you want.

00:25:45.648 --> 00:25:48.800
What do you want?

00:25:49.080 --> 00:26:01.285
it like you know she's like, and she's looking at me, she's like I want them this way and I was like that is the way they will be it like it was great because there was no arguing or anything like that and like as soon as she said that, I just knew exactly what it was.

00:26:01.285 --> 00:26:04.731
We did that, cranked it up.

00:26:04.731 --> 00:26:12.585
They look beautiful, but it was one string and I can imagine If she was Five or four.

00:26:12.585 --> 00:26:17.740
What's your youngest Little pet, or not your youngest, your oldest Middle?

00:26:18.482 --> 00:26:18.965
Oldest is.

00:26:18.965 --> 00:26:20.435
Four and a half, four and a half.

00:26:20.435 --> 00:26:21.845
Yeah, okay, middle's two and a half.

00:26:22.201 --> 00:26:27.388
I can imagine if she was four, I'd like One, I'd be dead because no one's holding the ladder.

00:26:27.388 --> 00:26:33.511
And two, you know, I can imagine like pulling my brains out because I look down and she's like wrapped in the lights, exactly so.

00:26:33.511 --> 00:26:36.666
So now I want to know what your experience is like yes, for sure.

00:26:36.686 --> 00:26:54.426
So for I'll back up to when I was a kid my dad would, my dad wouldn wouldn't go full family vacation with the lights, yeah, but he would like Not rock show, but he'd get out there and like we would do them, we'd do them up, oh yeah, and we'd do up the lights and stuff.

00:26:54.426 --> 00:27:00.192
And so then, like you know, when I get married, it's like all right, you know, we should get some Christmas lights.

00:27:00.192 --> 00:27:07.990
So, similarly, like my first year out, I did two strings you know, just I, just only because I had a little more roof line.

00:27:08.009 --> 00:27:11.724
Yeah, it's, but it's just like that's not a lot, you know, like a string of two, one, two strings lights, whatever.

00:27:11.724 --> 00:27:15.438
So you know, we've passed a couple years on and off.

00:27:15.438 --> 00:27:19.053
Sometimes I put them out, sometimes I don't, depending on what's going on.

00:27:19.053 --> 00:27:25.592
You know, maybe we'll put them out, maybe we don't, but then once you're having kids, it's like like all right, let's make sure we're doing decorations and things.

00:27:25.592 --> 00:27:30.291
And it is one of those things where I like the idea of them.

00:27:30.291 --> 00:27:34.750
I don't like setting them up, hell no.

00:27:34.750 --> 00:27:37.209
And I hate taking them down.

00:27:37.209 --> 00:27:39.826
I hate taking them down.

00:27:39.826 --> 00:27:46.811
Yeah, bro, oh my gosh, like my wife knows, like for Christmas trees I do not take down anything.

00:27:49.082 --> 00:27:50.203
You don't take down the Christmas tree.

00:27:50.203 --> 00:27:50.644
What do you mean?

00:27:50.644 --> 00:27:51.667
You just leave it up.

00:27:52.790 --> 00:27:53.251
Let it die.

00:27:53.251 --> 00:27:54.579
Yeah, it's like.

00:27:54.579 --> 00:28:01.105
My job is to get the tree in the house, set it up, put the lights on it and then help decorate it.

00:28:01.105 --> 00:28:09.851
But, like, when it comes to like, taking it out, my only job is to, once it's ready, get it out the door.

00:28:09.851 --> 00:28:13.772
So, like and like, just I it's.

00:28:13.772 --> 00:28:14.453
I can't do it.

00:28:14.453 --> 00:28:15.934
I can't take the stuff down.

00:28:16.394 --> 00:28:17.076
And it's not like.

00:28:17.115 --> 00:28:20.557
I'm not like Buddy the Elf and I'm just like oh, it's over, I'm so sad.

00:28:20.557 --> 00:28:29.883
I'm just like it's like January 5th and I'm like I am not doing this, I'm not motivated anymore.

00:28:29.883 --> 00:28:34.686
Before you're kind of excited, it's Christmas is coming Right and so you get it all set up but anyway.

00:28:34.707 --> 00:28:43.094
So then with Christmas lights, you know, now it's like now I've got kids who are old enough to have memories with lights, so I'm like I gotta gotta start, I gotta keep up in my game.

00:28:43.094 --> 00:28:58.548
And so now this year I've decided, every year for the next handful of years I will up the game as we go and I'll kind of do age appropriate amounts of setup so they can be a part of it as we go.

00:28:58.548 --> 00:29:17.988
And so this year there's actually I went so simple but tasteful though, but very, but there's actually I went so simple, tasteful though, but there's a lot of stuff going on, and so I used to think these were tacky, but I've caved to it, and one of the tacky things would be the projector screen on the house.

00:29:18.087 --> 00:29:21.354
Oh yeah, I will say that variety.

00:29:21.354 --> 00:29:23.721
There was no effort.

00:29:23.721 --> 00:29:27.212
You just stick that thing in the yard and it's on the side of the house and it's awesome.

00:29:27.212 --> 00:29:38.835
So this year what I did and I still don't have the projector screen, but what I did this year was I just got two um, I have three things, three decorations this year and my little guy set it up with me but it's a.

00:29:38.835 --> 00:29:42.482
It's these little stakes you stick in the ground you can put a light bulb in.

00:29:42.482 --> 00:29:47.990
But my light bulbs for whatever, my ten dollar light bulb is like a.

00:29:47.990 --> 00:29:52.682
It's like a disco ball, but of christmas colors and it just shines it on the house.

00:29:52.682 --> 00:29:54.767
So we just have like two christmas.

00:29:54.767 --> 00:29:59.244
You know, we got red and green christmas disco on the house.

00:29:59.987 --> 00:30:02.921
And then another thing I've always thought was super tacky is inflatables.

00:30:02.921 --> 00:30:04.545
I bought one.

00:30:04.545 --> 00:30:07.593
I bought an inflatableatable Santa Claus and that's my third item.

00:30:07.593 --> 00:30:12.371
So I got two disco balls on the house and I got an inflatable Santa in the middle of the yard.

00:30:12.371 --> 00:30:17.189
Yeah, and they're all connected to this little power strip in the yard.

00:30:17.189 --> 00:30:18.712
That connects to.

00:30:18.712 --> 00:30:25.931
It's a dirty little secret of mine for our we do a lot of like 2A talk.

00:30:26.633 --> 00:30:41.286
Oh, yeah, and we do a lot and that leads into also kind of like I'm not a fan of you know, I am a fan of my privacy, yeah, but I have an Alexa and it's just in there, you fucker, it's listening to everything I do.

00:30:41.306 --> 00:30:41.788
Yeah, of course.

00:30:43.561 --> 00:30:57.432
But my Christmas lights are hooked up to my alexa and when it's time for the lights to come on, my kid can say, alexa, turn the christmas lights on, and they plink on and the santa blows up and it's great and the kid loves that and the kids love it.

00:30:57.941 --> 00:31:05.153
And then another a fun feature I wasn't planning on doing was, uh, last night we for duck hunting.

00:31:05.153 --> 00:31:13.973
We have two types of decoys Usually use like floater decoys out in the water, but I also have these like standing decoys that just stand if you're on like dry ground.

00:31:13.973 --> 00:31:17.486
The kids went and stuck them all in the yard.

00:31:17.486 --> 00:31:18.509
That's cute.

00:31:18.509 --> 00:31:21.809
And I'm going to leave them until I clean up, because I think it looks awesome.

00:31:21.809 --> 00:31:25.127
So we've got duck decoys and Santa Claus in the yard.

00:31:25.769 --> 00:31:32.029
I will say this I would never steal someone's Christmas lights or inflatable, but I might steal someone's duck decoy just out there in the yard.

00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:33.945
Well, I will say these are not the price you want.

00:31:33.945 --> 00:31:37.623
Okay, all right, cool, because these are the cardboard cutout.

00:31:37.623 --> 00:31:41.126
Well, like plastic cutouts, not so bad.

00:31:41.126 --> 00:31:43.871
It's funny, duck decoys get expensive fast.

00:31:43.871 --> 00:31:44.832
So expensive.

00:31:44.932 --> 00:31:48.940
Especially for the standing your standards and stuff, but anyway, yeah.

00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:57.799
So this year they went out with me and we, we did a simple setup and I think that each year I'm just going to kind of like acquire and build up, and but this year I truly went for simplicity.

00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:01.767
I was like let's just get something that, something that looks okay.

00:32:01.767 --> 00:32:05.733
I don't even have to get on the roof this year, we'll get on the roof in two years.

00:32:05.733 --> 00:32:14.182
Don't you have some shrubbery, like bushes, for decoration or for like, don't you just have?

00:32:14.221 --> 00:32:15.826
a bush, or a couple bushes, in your yard.

00:32:15.826 --> 00:32:20.269
Yep, I do, dude, I'm a big fan of the spider web lights.

00:32:20.269 --> 00:32:25.695
Oh yep, I remember the first time I saw those his, his dad was like here's the secret.

00:32:25.695 --> 00:32:27.644
He just pulled him out like what is this?

00:32:27.644 --> 00:32:28.205
Where does it go?

00:32:28.205 --> 00:32:34.464
He's like you just like lasso, toss it on the bushes and it doesn't matter how it lands, it's just great.

00:32:34.464 --> 00:32:37.712
Every year I'm like what are you talking about?

00:32:37.732 --> 00:32:57.067
and he showed me and we just put he had like I don't know something insane like a dozen bushes and and he's like these ones go here and they alternate and yada, yada, and he's like then you just you know pretty much toss this one up in the tree and then, after it goes in the tree, you just kind of wind it around and you're good to go.

00:32:57.067 --> 00:32:59.383
I was like, all right, man, let me see.

00:32:59.383 --> 00:33:03.224
And it was like it was like the easiest setup I've ever done in all my.

00:33:03.285 --> 00:33:08.181
Christmas years that guy had it down to science and that's one of the things who were like I would classify.

00:33:08.181 --> 00:33:15.540
The net lights, inflatables and projectors are all in my classification of like Work smarter, not harder.

00:33:15.540 --> 00:33:22.348
Well, previously are in my classification of you're lazy and those are tacky.

00:33:22.348 --> 00:33:27.086
Now I'm in the camp of those are great, just use them.

00:33:27.226 --> 00:33:30.696
Yeah, but here's the question like what did your children do?

00:33:30.696 --> 00:33:32.240
Did your children do anything?

00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.657
Were they an added element of chaos to trying to get the lights and set up.

00:33:36.959 --> 00:33:41.798
They were especially because they're out there in their underwear, oh hell yeah, because it's like 24.

00:33:41.798 --> 00:33:44.364
Yeah, we, definitely we run a lot of what was it?

00:33:44.503 --> 00:33:56.000
21, 19 degrees uh, yeah, it was cold and uh, they will not, they will refuse to wear, but then they won't walk in the dead grass Because it's quote unquote pokey.

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:02.500
Yeah, it's pokey, exactly, and that's where everything was getting set up, and so they would kind of help.

00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:23.985
And then I did let my little one plug plug the lights together to start, but his fingers are so tiny If you let them plug an extension cord together, his fingers, if you plug an extension cord together as it's going in, there's room for his fingers to go in there and for the cord to contact.

00:34:23.985 --> 00:34:26.900
Yeah, it was like, as we're doing, he's like pinching the metal.

00:34:26.900 --> 00:34:34.168
Yeah, trying to get his fingers clear, trying to not zap him, like I can handle that, but he might not be able to, anyways, get him plugged in.

00:34:34.456 --> 00:34:36.302
And then we, you know, and they turn on.

00:34:36.302 --> 00:34:39.554
And what is fun is like the look on his face when they turned on.

00:34:39.554 --> 00:34:43.043
Just eyes wide and mouth just also.

00:34:43.043 --> 00:34:46.949
Oh, aghast, yeah, as they, as it turns that's awesome, dude.

00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:57.554
That's like I mean, there's just nothing like that childlike innocence to recognize, just like the specialness of the holidays.

00:34:57.554 --> 00:34:59.780
You know what I mean like, because I I mean you've done it.

00:34:59.780 --> 00:35:00.400
What?

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.336
32 times now, exactly and it's just like for them.

00:35:05.336 --> 00:35:10.844
It's that first real memory of like they might not remember.

00:35:10.844 --> 00:35:22.195
I, you know, learned how to turn on lights for christmas with my dad at three or four, right when I put the plug and socket together.

00:35:22.695 --> 00:35:36.626
But it is there and that's like forming those foundational brain pathways definitely in their psyche, and that's the cool thing about having kids in general is like as an adult, as things become more and more mundane, more and more routine, less interesting.

00:35:36.626 --> 00:35:40.445
Having kids is awesome because everything is new.

00:35:40.445 --> 00:35:58.800
And you get to bring them through a new thing, and so, whether it's looking at a roly-poly, setting up some Christmas lights, or getting to swing a baseball bat, whatever, just play catch, it's like it's all, like it's all brand new and super exciting and fun, and that's that's the cool thing about kids.

00:35:59.536 --> 00:36:00.217
I want to say too.

00:36:00.217 --> 00:36:06.568
Man Billie Jean showed me Mace Windu's photo of thankful turkey feathers.

00:36:06.568 --> 00:36:14.043
Oh, yeah, and I was like major brownie points to pat for for, uh, some of those, because I think you put on there.

00:36:14.043 --> 00:36:18.061
You're thankful for your, your company and your co-workers.

00:36:18.061 --> 00:36:21.387
Then you had another one that was just my wife.

00:36:21.387 --> 00:36:25.541
Yeah, I was like good brownies good brownies I did also love.

00:36:25.541 --> 00:36:27.766
Uh, gosh, did it?

00:36:27.766 --> 00:36:30.876
Did one of your kids put food or like that?

00:36:30.876 --> 00:36:32.101
Didn't one of them put?

00:36:32.101 --> 00:36:33.264
Like my sister eats?

00:36:33.875 --> 00:36:35.260
Like that was one of them.

00:36:35.260 --> 00:36:36.284
Yeah, for sure.

00:36:36.284 --> 00:36:39.125
I'm thankful that my sister eats Exactly.

00:36:39.125 --> 00:36:40.340
So what is it?

00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:43.125
We have this like you basically have a turkey without a tail.

00:36:43.125 --> 00:36:48.603
And like all November, like at night when you sit down for family dinner, we get out like a little feather.

00:36:49.007 --> 00:36:53.664
It's a, a you know whatever paper feather and you can write what you're thankful for.

00:36:53.664 --> 00:37:06.797
And by the end of like Thanksgiving comes, this turkey has a full, full tail and yeah, and honestly I hate that crap because I can't come up with stuff to say but, exactly I take the cop outs money.

00:37:06.817 --> 00:37:07.059
Yep, yeah, no.

00:37:07.059 --> 00:37:07.442
So the.

00:37:07.442 --> 00:37:09.333
What I do love is that my wife takes the time Exactly, I take the cop outs Kid money.

00:37:09.333 --> 00:37:17.980
Yeah, what I do love is that my wife Takes the time to like, do that my kids would have nothing or do nothing.

00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:20.842
They'd never see a Doctor, they'd never play with a friend.

00:37:20.842 --> 00:37:24.902
If it was just you, if it was just me, there would be nothing in their life.

00:37:24.902 --> 00:37:35.280
Kids would be feral beasts, exactly, and so I'm so Thankful for my wife and the way that she does these fun little interactive things and also intentional things like talking about what you're thankful for.

00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.978
It's good and it's fun.

00:37:36.978 --> 00:37:37.981
It's funny what they'll say.

00:37:37.981 --> 00:37:40.396
I'm thankful for those little things.

00:37:40.396 --> 00:37:44.317
I think mine on the turkey right now.

00:37:44.317 --> 00:37:51.199
Are my wife thankful for my employees because they're crushing it, and thankful for the duck I got yesterday?

00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:54.509
Oh, you got a duck yesterday we did, we did.

00:37:54.588 --> 00:38:07.057
So I got to take, uh, I took little pat out with my buddy and his 10 year old kid and, uh, his 10 year old kid has been like really want to go duck hunting for a long time.

00:38:07.057 --> 00:38:11.726
Last year he even had a birthday cake that was a duck because he wanted to go duck hunting.

00:38:11.746 --> 00:38:17.065
So bad your kid or his kid, his kid and so it was super fun to take him out.

00:38:17.065 --> 00:38:25.626
We went out there and we set up the decoys, we painted our faces and did all the stuff and, honestly, it was a horrible day to go duck hunting.

00:38:25.626 --> 00:38:31.159
It really is kind of only like it's a horrible day to go duck hunting.

00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:32.786
It really is a kind of a only like it's a crappy public land spot to hunt.

00:38:32.786 --> 00:38:34.954
But I just had to take them out and I was just praying to God.

00:38:34.954 --> 00:38:38.963
I was like Lord, just give us one duck please, oh my gosh.

00:38:38.963 --> 00:38:41.117
And we sat there for about an hour and a half with nothing.

00:38:41.117 --> 00:38:55.065
The sun's going down and it's getting to the end of it and, um, as this, we're at the last five minutes of sunlight to be able to take this duck or take anything, and, uh, one comes, but I don't see it.

00:38:55.244 --> 00:39:00.362
Um, my buddy's kid sees it coming in duck gives his life yep, he come doing it for this kid?

00:39:00.362 --> 00:39:01.483
Yeah, I honestly did.

00:39:01.483 --> 00:39:21.538
He came into the blind, landed in the water and we had just been talking about like there's an ethical thing around like shooting ducks, like especially old school stuff is like you never shoot a sitting duck, you let them be flying yeah um, but um, and then also my buddy was talking like how, like, do you shoot a duck and shoot again to finish it?

00:39:21.619 --> 00:39:24.936
or like I'm like, well, typically you shoot it and then you got there and get it.

00:39:24.936 --> 00:39:28.840
Even if it's not dead, you grab it and ring its neck so you're not ruining any of the meat.

00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.342
So your buddy was new too.

00:39:30.342 --> 00:39:31.003
He was new too.

00:39:31.003 --> 00:39:32.324
This was his first time duck hunting.

00:39:32.385 --> 00:39:33.085
That's crazy, man.

00:39:33.085 --> 00:39:34.887
What do I have to do to go duck hunting with you?

00:39:34.887 --> 00:39:35.768
Do I need to have a kid?

00:39:35.768 --> 00:39:37.130
What's going on, bro?

00:39:46.264 --> 00:39:47.007
Actually, I thought about you.

00:39:47.007 --> 00:39:49.871
I, we're going to go out, we're going to do it before the end of the season, we're going to get it done.

00:39:49.871 --> 00:39:55.599
So the single duck came in and I had just got done telling him how one, if we can.

00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.286
We don't want to shoot them on the water, but it's not illegal.

00:39:59.255 --> 00:40:02.657
It's sportsmanship, though Sportsmanship, but I will say this big game, it's very specific.

00:40:10.574 --> 00:40:16.195
You want your deer or elk to be standing broadside, but still broadside.

00:40:16.195 --> 00:40:23.349
You need to very specifically identify the sex of the animal, the species of the animal.

00:40:23.349 --> 00:40:24.956
Make sure it's a clean shot.

00:40:24.956 --> 00:40:25.777
Make sure it's a clean shot.

00:40:25.777 --> 00:40:30.824
Take your time, calm down, take aim and execute a kill shot on that animal.

00:40:30.824 --> 00:40:34.429
That gets it in one little and they're dead.

00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:35.530
That's the perfect shot.

00:40:35.530 --> 00:40:37.356
So that's big game.

00:40:37.356 --> 00:40:39.097
But then what's funny is the quote unquote.

00:40:39.097 --> 00:40:50.635
Ethical thing for waterfowl hunting is to, while it's flying in the air at potentially up to 40 miles an hour, shoot at it, isn't?

00:40:52.237 --> 00:40:52.659
that the opposite.

00:40:52.659 --> 00:40:56.465
Well, no, here's my argument.

00:40:56.465 --> 00:40:57.306
All right, no, go ahead.

00:40:57.347 --> 00:41:28.608
Go ahead because and this is not me just being scientific right point dexter, right, right, the ethical shot for big game is almost always to provide as clean of a kill as possible and I, truly, I do think that a clean kill on waterfowl is likely the one that gives you the best odds of killing it quickly and it being done.

00:41:28.608 --> 00:41:45.726
And I do think a lot of people, if the norm was to shoot at the ducks or, you know, waterfowl in water, I think a lot of people would start getting uh skipping and lose a lot of energy because they, because people, don't know how to.

00:41:45.726 --> 00:41:49.545
I think one a lot of people don't know how to shoot with uh.

00:41:49.545 --> 00:42:17.431
One a lot of people don't know how to shoot with shotguns over range and a lot of people just don't grasp and understand that, like if you're aiming at a duck that is, you know, just level with you, 30 yards out, and it's in the water, it's in the water, yep, odds are 90 of your shots going in the water or skipping across it and probably not going to kill that duck but probably just going to hurt it.

00:42:17.452 --> 00:42:47.996
And I would, I would really, and it was also going to limit your chance limit, like your odds of a clean kill, versus if it's flying in air and your shotgun has a good choke on it and you know you can put as much, uh, as much pellet on that duck as possible, right without you know obscurance, and so I don't know I I see that here for one, because it's like you could argue like well, the equivalent of that for big game would be like I can only shoot this bear after it charges at me or while it's running at full speed across the hill, right.

00:42:48.036 --> 00:42:54.458
So yeah, so yeah, and there's definitely like I think that like it's super sporting and awesome to shoot ducks out of the air and that's the goal.

00:42:54.458 --> 00:43:01.646
Yeah, for sure, but it's funny because, like there's some people who are like 100, like you never shoot a duck, while sitting in the water yeah and so, but it is legal.

00:43:02.467 --> 00:43:08.581
But it's funny that one animal you want to be in the air at full speed while another one you want to be like dead, silent and dead still.

00:43:08.581 --> 00:43:13.987
And so the anyways, this duck came in.

00:43:13.987 --> 00:43:15.110
We've been waiting an hour and a half.

00:43:15.110 --> 00:43:26.105
The single duck comes in, he lands, the new kid, spots it and I'm like it's down there and I'm like, all right, like get up, like shoot that duck.

00:43:26.105 --> 00:43:33.847
And so my buddy takes the shot and right after he shot it, I shot it again too, because there was no way in hell I was letting this duck get away.

00:43:33.847 --> 00:43:36.563
You know, like we were taking a duck home that night, so it was awesome.

00:43:36.563 --> 00:43:39.523
Did you eviscerate it Like, did it explode into pieces?

00:43:39.523 --> 00:43:46.681
Well, we lost a little bit of meat because of my second shot, yeah, but I will say like there was just, there was no chance that I was letting that duck get away.

00:43:47.282 --> 00:43:50.226
For these two kids and like one of them, their first duck hunt experience.

00:43:50.226 --> 00:43:59.425
For my son, his third duck hunt this was the first one that came in on it and I was like, and it was like it was funny too, cause like usually when a duck comes in and you kill it, you get back down and you wait for more to come.

00:43:59.425 --> 00:44:01.443
But this duck came in and we killed it and I just stood up.

00:44:01.443 --> 00:44:15.016
I was like let's pack it up, you know.

00:44:15.036 --> 00:44:31.721
So we like got our one duck and went home and it was awesome, super fun experience to get those uh, get those kids out there, have them just be in the be out there hunting, and both, uh, my son and his kid, they're like kind of add super hyper, but when they're hunting they're locked in, which is super awesome because we we've focused that that crazy energy to where they're like they're just trying to spot ducks and going wild.

00:44:31.721 --> 00:44:40.898
So it was a super fun time and a super, uh, um, enjoyable thing as a dad and as someone who loves waterfowl to take someone out and have a good experience for them on their first time out.

00:44:40.898 --> 00:44:52.567
So that's my duck story, um, but, like, moving on from that, we've been doing something for the last few weeks and that's been we have a box of beer on the table.

00:44:52.927 --> 00:44:54.048
Oh, okay, I was waiting.

00:44:54.596 --> 00:45:03.286
And Mick has grabbed the box, which means he needs another beer, and there is his least one, maybe like top two least favorite beers in the world.

00:45:03.286 --> 00:45:09.721
Number one, number one least favorite beer in the world is in the box, and so he's grab bagging.

00:45:09.721 --> 00:45:11.719
It's a mixed pack, so we'll see what he gets.

00:45:12.121 --> 00:45:12.563
Here we go.

00:45:12.563 --> 00:45:17.766
I was just thinking in my brain, right, I was like, okay, did you ever do the math behind the door?

00:45:17.766 --> 00:45:24.983
Like there's a prize behind three doors and like, statistically, your odds of getting the prize are better if you pick one and then switch.

00:45:24.983 --> 00:45:28.356
Oh really, oh, yeah, yeah, pick one and then switch.

00:45:28.356 --> 00:45:28.797
Oh really, oh yeah.

00:45:28.797 --> 00:45:36.487
Yeah, mathematically, your odds are higher if you pick one door and then someone says we'll give you this chance now to switch.

00:45:36.487 --> 00:45:41.304
Technically, your, your chances of getting the prize door are higher.

00:45:41.304 --> 00:45:54.074
Okay, and I was just about to switch because I grabbed the beer and I was like, oh, but I'll switch, but wait, then I paralyzed because there's only one bad beer here, because at the point we've gotten to the point where that's just the opposite.

00:45:54.134 --> 00:46:12.342
Yeah it's not one prize it's inverse, and there's three beers left in the box, there's one bad beer left and I'll say there's two name it the holiday ale from new belgium, and something we all know is you never get involved in a land war in Asia.

00:46:12.342 --> 00:46:15.579
What the fuck where's that from?

00:46:15.579 --> 00:46:22.664
And you never gamble with a Sicilian when death is on the line.

00:46:22.664 --> 00:46:27.014
Oh, he escaped, he took it out.

00:46:27.014 --> 00:46:32.661
There's two beers I'm going in, dude, I've got a 50-50.

00:46:32.661 --> 00:46:34.119
I've got a coin toss chance.

00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:35.476
Bro, okay, all right For you.

00:46:35.476 --> 00:46:36.842
I definitely think you should flip.

00:46:36.842 --> 00:46:38.215
I think you should grab one.

00:46:38.215 --> 00:46:39.496
Think about it.

00:46:39.938 --> 00:46:40.338
Switch.

00:46:40.338 --> 00:46:43.041
Oh, I just switched, but here's.

00:46:43.041 --> 00:46:51.668
Is it guaranteed, though, that, if I pull clean, you got to have the next one.

00:46:51.708 --> 00:46:52.909
Yeah, all right, here we go.

00:46:52.909 --> 00:46:54.311
Are you going to switch back?

00:46:56.835 --> 00:46:57.416
Are you going to switch back?

00:46:57.416 --> 00:46:59.804
He's pulling this Princess Bride crap on me like I just did.

00:47:03.184 --> 00:47:04.007
Are you going?

00:47:04.027 --> 00:47:04.769
to switch back up?

00:47:04.769 --> 00:47:13.083
Yes, but like the D pirate Roberts, I uh, I drew the holiday ale.

00:47:13.561 --> 00:47:14.454
Yeah, the poison.

00:47:15.648 --> 00:47:21.871
I drew the poison, but I've been conditioning myself Every day, a little at a time.

00:47:21.871 --> 00:47:22.454
No, you haven't.

00:47:23.097 --> 00:47:24.161
You wouldn't do that to yourself.

00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:26.503
No one does that.

00:47:26.503 --> 00:47:28.842
Oh, come on, I was dragging the bit out.

00:47:28.842 --> 00:47:30.867
What's funny is that.

00:47:32.126 --> 00:47:33.858
Tastes like Christmas D&D.

00:47:33.858 --> 00:47:41.494
This last Friday, new guy New guy from your work Asked me to run a one shot.

00:47:41.494 --> 00:47:49.199
It was a really fun one shot, but he wanted it as like an introductory Game for his girlfriend.

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.483
To try D&D.

00:47:50.483 --> 00:47:52.106
She had a blast Nice.

00:47:52.106 --> 00:47:58.907
But my buddy Mick 2, he's also a Mick like me.

00:47:59.168 --> 00:47:59.469
Oh yeah.

00:48:01.255 --> 00:48:10.900
He comes down the stairs running a little late and holds up this box of beer he brought it was just holiday ale.

00:48:10.900 --> 00:48:15.460
It was, it was just a holiday ale 12 pack did and I was like.

00:48:15.460 --> 00:48:18.065
I immediately like knee-jerk.

00:48:18.065 --> 00:48:27.456
Response was like oh, really funny, really fucking funny, mick and he's I could see it in his eyes he like died.

00:48:27.456 --> 00:48:28.099
He was like what?

00:48:28.099 --> 00:48:33.882
I was like you bring that fucking shit in my house, you know, I like lost my mind.

00:48:33.882 --> 00:48:35.514
I wasn't actually angry, right.

00:48:36.297 --> 00:48:39.427
Because I thought he legitimately brought it because I know he's Listened to the podcast a couple times.

00:48:39.447 --> 00:48:45.795
I was like I thought he grabbed it just to spite me, and then it's Doubtfully painful because you're like obviously you haven't been listening that intently.

00:48:45.795 --> 00:48:47.099
I was like okay, clearly you haven't been listening that intently.

00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:55.025
Yeah, that's what I was like, okay, clearly you haven't listened to the last few episodes, but it was funny because I was like that is the worst beer I've ever had.

00:48:55.025 --> 00:49:03.215
And then him and another guy that were hanging out tried it and they're like, yeah, this beer sucks, but it's not the worst beer I've ever had.

00:49:03.215 --> 00:49:08.059
I'm like, okay, my palate is a little bit more refined than you primitive Neanderthals.

00:49:08.059 --> 00:49:13.063
My palate is a little bit more refined than you primitive Neanderthals who just love beer.

00:49:13.063 --> 00:49:16.025
That's just store-bought, mass-produced.

00:49:16.025 --> 00:49:17.628
It tastes like dog food beer.

00:49:17.748 --> 00:49:18.088
You know what I?

00:49:18.128 --> 00:49:22.211
mean, but no, I was just giving them a little bit of a ribbon.

00:49:22.211 --> 00:49:30.976
I did tell them.

00:49:30.976 --> 00:49:33.545
I was like hey, man, in D&D, inspiration lets you re-roll your dice if you get a better result.

00:49:33.545 --> 00:49:34.487
You only can do it once, once per game.

00:49:34.487 --> 00:49:35.672
I was like it's the thought that counts.

00:49:35.672 --> 00:49:40.947
Happy holidays you get inspiration for bringing beer um.

00:49:40.947 --> 00:49:42.634
But I did think it was really funny.

00:49:42.634 --> 00:49:46.320
I thought it was super ironic oh yeah, it's the marketing bro.

00:49:46.481 --> 00:49:49.206
He sucks the people in dude, uh, pat.

00:49:49.246 --> 00:49:53.204
Before we get on to the next thing that I was thinking about, I need your opinion.

00:49:53.204 --> 00:49:57.295
I bought my first pair of western wear boots.

00:49:57.295 --> 00:49:59.782
Wow, because a lot of people were telling me.

00:49:59.782 --> 00:50:05.101
You know, a lot of people say hey, mick, nice cowboy hat, I like the cowboy hat, that's a nice cowboy, I refuse.

00:50:05.101 --> 00:50:07.949
I refuse.

00:50:07.949 --> 00:50:09.253
I've never bought Crocs.

00:50:09.313 --> 00:50:10.175
I refuse to buy that shit.

00:50:10.175 --> 00:50:14.050
Don't do it, because then you'll be like only wearing them.

00:50:14.251 --> 00:50:15.536
I hate Crocs dude, I know you hate them.

00:50:15.556 --> 00:50:19.159
But it's one of those things where it's like, once you wear them, it's just like yeah, I get it.

00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:20.965
Now I get it.

00:50:20.965 --> 00:50:21.867
Here's my thing.

00:50:21.867 --> 00:50:30.856
I still believe they're somehow going to result in foot cancer Somehow.

00:50:30.856 --> 00:50:31.780
The material is gonna be radioactive.

00:50:31.780 --> 00:50:32.844
Um no, but uh, everyone always said nice cowboy hat.

00:50:32.844 --> 00:50:33.367
I always correct people.

00:50:33.367 --> 00:50:34.994
I'm like oh, it's not really a cowboy hat, it's a stetson.

00:50:34.994 --> 00:50:37.280
But it's like a businessman stetson.

00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:38.121
You know, it's like a.

00:50:38.121 --> 00:50:44.139
It doesn't look like a cowboy hat, like out on the range, it's like it's a full brim dress.

00:50:44.260 --> 00:50:53.686
It's a full brim dress, hat and, uh, I wear, you know, when I'm going out and just looking more put together and I don't want to wear just a baseball cap.

00:50:53.686 --> 00:51:01.615
And uh, I had just gotten enough comments that I was like, bro, you need some square toes, you need some square toes.

00:51:01.615 --> 00:51:11.059
You need some square toes because I already have essentially like round, rounded toe uh boots, but they're not like real cowboy boots, western boots.

00:51:11.059 --> 00:51:12.282
Um.

00:51:12.282 --> 00:51:15.456
So I was like, all right, fine, I'll get some square to square toes for everyday use.

00:51:15.456 --> 00:51:19.273
So I went out and I bought are you familiar with western wear boots?

00:51:19.313 --> 00:51:21.378
You strike me as a man who's got a pair of airy hats.

00:51:21.378 --> 00:51:23.260
I got one or two.

00:51:23.260 --> 00:51:33.001
Uh, well, I bought, I did my research and I used a discount from a buddy of mine At a Jack's.

00:51:33.001 --> 00:51:34.574
He gave me the friends family discount.

00:51:34.574 --> 00:51:42.592
So last night, at like five minutes till they closed, I grabbed these boots, I bought them and I need you to tell me if they're gay.

00:51:42.592 --> 00:51:46.646
Alright, these are the double H.

00:51:46.646 --> 00:51:50.943
They're the double h's.

00:51:50.943 --> 00:51:54.532
Uh, mickeys is what they're called.

00:51:54.552 --> 00:52:06.623
I didn't even know they were called mickeys when I got them but they're like uh work wear boots with like a nice anti-slip sole and they got a comfort cushiony pad in them.

00:52:06.623 --> 00:52:14.940
Uh, but they got some orange thread on them, bro, and I was like I don't know man, but they were the only pair of boots that were wide enough for my feet.

00:52:14.940 --> 00:52:16.543
So I don't know.

00:52:16.543 --> 00:52:18.969
Tell me, pat, are these gay?

00:52:18.969 --> 00:52:20.239
Are these cowboy boots?

00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:21.001
Lady boots?

00:52:21.302 --> 00:52:23.900
All right, let's give the.

00:52:23.900 --> 00:52:26.721
Well, I got to see yeah, so here's the deal.

00:52:26.721 --> 00:52:30.527
I'll to see yeah, so here's the deal.

00:52:30.527 --> 00:52:30.869
I'll tell you.

00:52:30.869 --> 00:52:35.481
Oh God, he's going to say I think that they are great boots.

00:52:35.922 --> 00:52:40.835
Oh thanks, double H boots, double H the ones I'm wearing the specific ones you're wearing.

00:52:40.996 --> 00:52:43.978
Here's why Because you own a pair I don't own a pair.

00:52:43.998 --> 00:52:44.438
Okay, all right.

00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.661
But the there's.

00:52:47.661 --> 00:52:52.306
You know you have your like traditional, like pretty pointed, like riding boots.

00:52:52.306 --> 00:52:53.266
What's the soles on those?

00:52:53.266 --> 00:52:54.228
Let me see them real quick again.

00:52:54.228 --> 00:52:57.269
They're the ICE, i-c-e soles.

00:52:57.269 --> 00:52:59.152
Oh, yep, yep, okay, perfect, yeah.

00:52:59.152 --> 00:52:59.672
So here's the deal.

00:53:00.356 --> 00:53:05.668
If you were wearing those to ride a horse, I would tell you you've made a grave mistake.

00:53:05.668 --> 00:53:06.436
Well, I don't got no horse.

00:53:06.436 --> 00:53:07.157
You've made a grave mistake.

00:53:07.157 --> 00:53:07.737
Well, I don't got no horses.

00:53:07.737 --> 00:53:15.565
And here's why, on the soles of a true cowboy boot, you want a leather, you know solid leather bottom sole of your boot.

00:53:15.565 --> 00:53:16.427
Why is that?

00:53:16.427 --> 00:53:25.541
Because you don't want these grippy rubber, vibram, you know deep tread soles on there.

00:53:25.541 --> 00:53:27.635
Because when you're riding your horse, well, I'll tell you something.

00:53:27.635 --> 00:53:31.585
Have you ever heard the phrase about riding a horse, like, like if?

00:53:31.585 --> 00:53:33.731
I was saying like, what's the if, if?

00:53:33.731 --> 00:53:39.266
If any dad ever told his kid, uh, like some, fuck a little, no, here you'll get it.

00:53:39.266 --> 00:53:39.949
So here's the deal.

00:53:39.949 --> 00:53:41.356
I didn't have a dad, no, here we go.

00:53:41.356 --> 00:53:52.920
Yeah, right, so you're riding your bike or you got fired from your job and someone's going to use a horse metaphor for you what are they going to say?

00:53:56.559 --> 00:54:02.349
it's all right, you fell off your bike oh, you gotta get back up on that horse.

00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:04.257
There you go if you get bucked off.

00:54:04.297 --> 00:54:05.398
You got to get back up again.

00:54:05.398 --> 00:54:11.646
Well, there's a reason that phrase is around nothing like nothing.

00:54:11.686 --> 00:54:17.896
To get big sweaty then asking, like your dad said this a lot when you were a kid growing up what was it?

00:54:18.378 --> 00:54:30.612
oh my god oh, my god, and so, uh, anyways, if you're Riding horses, you're gonna fall off.

00:54:30.612 --> 00:54:32.240
That's the first part.

00:54:32.240 --> 00:54:38.574
You're gonna fall off a horse, so you gotta get back up again when you fall off a horse.

00:54:38.574 --> 00:54:45.795
While riding, your boot Is designed a riding boots designed For your foot to come out, slip out so you don't get dragged.

00:54:45.795 --> 00:54:48.523
That big heel is designed to keep you in.

00:54:48.523 --> 00:54:56.288
While you're going forward, while you're going backwards, your foot comes out, because if your foot doesn't come out, you not only will get dragged, you get.

00:54:56.288 --> 00:54:59.559
You're breaking legs, you're you're twisting femurs spiral fractures.

00:54:59.659 --> 00:55:12.882
It's, it's a, it's a it's a magnificent, um you know, sight to see someone getting jacked up by a horse right, uh, and we all have youtube and, uh, you know, or like live leaks what was it like?

00:55:12.983 --> 00:55:24.588
I swear I read something that, like uh, most deaths at uh rodeos are from horses and not bull riding horses are.

00:55:24.748 --> 00:55:30.005
I swear I that's a real thing that I read once I don't know if that's true or not, but I would say I wouldn't be surprised.

00:55:30.005 --> 00:55:36.487
And so, anyways, you need to have a smooth leather sole to get your foot the heck out of there.

00:55:36.487 --> 00:55:46.235
That being said, for doing anything else in life besides dancing if you're dancing on a dance floor, you want some kind of I don't swing dance, yeah.

00:55:46.235 --> 00:55:48.822
But if you want some smooth sole I don't swing dance, yeah.

00:55:48.822 --> 00:55:51.155
But but if you want some smooth, sliding boots, make great, you know dancing boots.

00:55:51.496 --> 00:56:00.128
Yeah, but For walking around you hit some a little bit of water on some you know some tile floor slipping.

00:56:00.128 --> 00:56:01.981
You're gonna be a little embarrassed.

00:56:01.981 --> 00:56:03.949
Well, it's gonna hurt your cowboy pride.

00:56:03.949 --> 00:56:05.054
Yeah, you know you're going down.

00:56:05.054 --> 00:56:06.963
So the soles on those are awesome.

00:56:06.963 --> 00:56:12.300
But I but also they're tasteful like boots have swung back and forth on.

00:56:12.300 --> 00:56:32.581
They have, like you know, these huge giant like I don't know if you've seen too like it's like pretty gaudy giant fat treads on them there was a, yeah, there's a couple I saw that were like and I was like dude, I am not an ice road trucker right, yeah I don't need that yeah, and so, like you don't want that, you still want like a tasteful dress boot, but you don't want to slip around.

00:56:32.822 --> 00:56:52.724
There's also one that, straight up, was just like the what's the part on the western style boots that is goes up to your shin but is not part of the actual shoe form, like you know, like this part where the stitching's at Like Right this here the part that goes up.

00:56:52.724 --> 00:56:55.980
Anyways that I saw a couple that had like Skulls on them.

00:56:55.980 --> 00:56:57.402
I ain't fucking buying that.

00:56:57.402 --> 00:57:00.094
This is part of my evaluation of the cowboy.

00:57:00.356 --> 00:57:01.882
I'm starting at the sole and I'm working my way up.

00:57:01.882 --> 00:57:03.380
So, anyways, you want those.

00:57:03.380 --> 00:57:09.880
You want some tasteful rubber soles, unless you're riding get the smooth ones, and then we're going to go into the pointed verse.

00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:10.663
Square toe.

00:57:10.663 --> 00:57:13.489
Um, there is.

00:57:13.489 --> 00:57:19.721
You know, we've moved to the square toe generally in style, but the square toe got way too square.

00:57:19.721 --> 00:57:21.826
It was like, dude, it can be.

00:57:21.826 --> 00:57:27.501
It was big, very square, and I was like that's not, that's not good looking you know, is this too wide?

00:57:28.965 --> 00:57:30.628
nope, those are on the box.

00:57:30.628 --> 00:57:31.809
It said wide square.

00:57:31.809 --> 00:57:35.744
Those are, those are sitting in the middle okay, I'd say it's at the.

00:57:35.744 --> 00:57:36.887
It on the parabola.

00:57:36.887 --> 00:57:37.496
It's on the.

00:57:37.496 --> 00:57:38.880
Can I wear these to church?

00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.112
Oh, you can wear them to church, just don't talk to the.

00:57:42.112 --> 00:57:42.996
Well, just just be.

00:57:42.996 --> 00:57:48.139
If you talk to the farrier who goes to church, yeah, um I think I know who that is yeah, but just like, is that?

00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:55.963
the dude who always has his shirt tucked in um, he's the one who really looks like a cowboy, and if he shakes your hand, he'll break it he's young, though he's got.

00:57:56.083 --> 00:58:00.201
Oh, it's not the, it's not to do with the mullet nope, nope, all right, no, but it's just like we have.

00:58:00.342 --> 00:58:04.577
We've got some real cowboys and we got some, you know, we do some in some dressed up cowboys.

00:58:04.577 --> 00:58:08.483
Yeah, I fall into the dressed up cowboy category and I'll just say that that's okay.

00:58:08.483 --> 00:58:14.289
But so, anyways, sure, it's like it's the um, uh, super squared, big square toes.

00:58:14.289 --> 00:58:15.231
I don't like those.

00:58:15.231 --> 00:58:17.340
I like somewhere in the middle because the.

00:58:17.340 --> 00:58:26.047
Then you have the pointy toe where you're verging on, like the, the mexican, the caballero, like bandolero, tall, pointy boot.

00:58:26.047 --> 00:58:36.146
You know you got to find a good middle ground in there and so you're pushing too square, but you're not, you're not too square.

00:58:36.246 --> 00:58:37.748
Should I sand it down to a point?

00:58:37.748 --> 00:58:38.510
No.

00:58:40.295 --> 00:58:44.222
No, I think that's great dude, I think you're right in there and then working our way up.

00:58:44.222 --> 00:58:50.565
Now that we've gotten above the ankle, this is all this is.

00:58:50.565 --> 00:59:00.596
The next most important thing is picking something that fits your personality because, like you said, I've seen, you know, there's all sorts of things.

00:59:00.596 --> 00:59:03.322
You got snake skin, ostrich, alligator up there.

00:59:03.322 --> 00:59:04.967
You got, um, you know.

00:59:04.967 --> 00:59:09.628
You've got lime, green skulls, american flags, confederate flags.

00:59:09.628 --> 00:59:19.217
You've got everything under the sun above your ankle, and the beautiful thing about this is your pants cover it, yeah, and so this is kind of like your personal.

00:59:19.217 --> 00:59:21.463
This is like your, your own personal ass tat.

00:59:21.463 --> 00:59:27.181
So this is where, like this is just between you, your lady and god on what's up there.

00:59:27.181 --> 00:59:33.179
Unless you're a top tucker, which I'm going to get into top tuckers in a second you got to earn the right to top tuck.

00:59:33.179 --> 00:59:35.266
Anyways, interesting.

00:59:35.266 --> 00:59:39.465
So you know, I think the American flag one is great.

00:59:39.465 --> 00:59:41.659
I think that the colorful ones are great.

00:59:41.659 --> 00:59:43.403
You got orange, you got camouflage.

00:59:43.403 --> 00:59:45.175
I'll say this there's everything out there.

00:59:45.195 --> 00:59:49.202
The American flag ones are a little weird for me, just in concept.

00:59:49.202 --> 01:00:01.682
I saw a bunch of them like I'm not doing that like that to me reads I served okay, and I think that's the image it would portray to too many people, because all the flags are backwards on them, that I saw that were being sold.

01:00:02.284 --> 01:00:04.492
I'm like I'm not wearing that, bro, that's.

01:00:04.492 --> 01:00:05.936
I think that's a good point.

01:00:05.936 --> 01:00:10.206
Here's a little side combo, though, which would be technically against flag code.

01:00:10.206 --> 01:00:12.228
Rip it off.

01:00:12.228 --> 01:00:15.041
I mean no flag Like flag code is like.

01:00:15.041 --> 01:00:19.494
You're not supposed to have Like paraphernalia Clothes with flags.

01:00:19.494 --> 01:00:23.380
Now, another thing would be I've seen a lot of souls.

01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:26.190
There's the American flag on the sole of your boot.

01:00:26.190 --> 01:00:41.025
That's so weird, which I would say jihadists think that's dope, because in other countries it's highly offensive to point your feet at somebody, to step on somebody, and when you stomp or walk on something you offend it.

01:00:41.494 --> 01:00:51.940
So if you have an American flag, on the sole of your boot you're just making the enemy happy, so you know you might want to reconsider.

01:00:51.940 --> 01:00:57.041
Anyways, maybe not culturally for us, but hey, something to think about.

01:00:57.041 --> 01:00:58.880
They are called shit kickers.

01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:04.384
That's what you're supposed to be walking on when you're wearing these and you're treading the old glory in the doo-doo.

01:01:04.384 --> 01:01:05.706
So figure that out.

01:01:05.706 --> 01:01:14.646
I'm not necessarily anti uh, american flag above the ankle, but um, there's all sorts of things out there depending on your personality.

01:01:14.646 --> 01:01:24.454
Pick what you want, but personally I prefer just a good old brown or black, just some classic stuff.

01:01:24.653 --> 01:01:29.306
There was nothing there, though I went through like five pairs of boots that had nothing playing Right.

01:01:29.346 --> 01:01:30.195
Well, here's the deal.

01:01:30.195 --> 01:01:35.443
What I like about yours is the only orange on yours is the finger holes to pull them on.

01:01:35.443 --> 01:01:36.898
It's just a little.

01:01:36.898 --> 01:01:39.682
As you move up the ankles it's a little gay.

01:01:39.682 --> 01:01:43.121
No, these are zero percent gay.

01:01:43.121 --> 01:01:45.219
Can they be five?

01:01:45.219 --> 01:01:47.164
You want to be five percent gay?

01:01:47.164 --> 01:01:47.675
Just five.

01:01:47.675 --> 01:01:48.295
Give me five.

01:01:48.295 --> 01:01:50.858
A little Metro cowboy, no.

01:01:50.858 --> 01:01:54.822
But as you move up the ankle, you're allowed to express yourself more.

01:01:55.342 --> 01:01:58.106
And so a little bit of flair, a little bit of pizzazz.

01:01:58.106 --> 01:02:10.882
You know that orange on there also one of my favorite colors is that old bright orange, and so I like that orange in the eye holes, and so you just got a brown boot orange, and so I like that orange in the in the eye holes, and so you just got a brown boot.

01:02:10.882 --> 01:02:17.338
You got a light brown boot with a dark brown um, you know, uh, top to it with, uh, not an overly dramatic stippling in the leather.

01:02:17.338 --> 01:02:19.161
It's clean, it looks good.

01:02:19.161 --> 01:02:21.146
What I love about this is I love versatile boots.

01:02:21.146 --> 01:02:24.041
You could wear this out, honestly.

01:02:24.041 --> 01:02:24.603
You could go anywhere.

01:02:24.603 --> 01:02:28.360
You could go to a wedding, you could go to a work site and you'd be accepted.

01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:29.081
It's fine.

01:02:29.081 --> 01:02:29.722
It's a good boot.

01:02:29.722 --> 01:02:30.445
It protects your feet.

01:02:30.445 --> 01:02:31.266
It gets you where you want to go.

01:02:31.266 --> 01:02:40.025
It's not overdone, and I think that this is a great boot, and maybe my next pair might even have to be the double H Makies.

01:02:40.835 --> 01:02:43.297
Dude, I'll say this I was trying on.

01:02:43.297 --> 01:02:50.123
I had two rules for buying boots when I was trying to get when I was getting my first pair of Western Right One.

01:02:50.123 --> 01:03:00.351
I know my work activity will all be done outside of my actual job, like if I want to wear these Like you're laboring, yeah, work activity yeah.

01:03:00.434 --> 01:03:16.541
Like if I'm wearing them to the range, if I'm wearing them, you know, hauling stuff, setting stuff up, building things, taking things down down, whatever that's all going to be done extracurricular.

01:03:16.541 --> 01:03:19.028
So I don't need boots that are going to be every day going through the shit and like got to be in the ringer, um.

01:03:19.028 --> 01:03:23.443
So I wanted to kind of look good dress wise, but I also didn't want to, so that was that was the first one.

01:03:23.463 --> 01:03:32.125
It was like they don't need to be the darndest, toughest work boots right because the amount of time they're going to spend working is a lot less than other people.

01:03:32.144 --> 01:03:33.648
They don't need steel toes, that's just cold.

01:03:33.648 --> 01:03:34.449
They don't need steel toes, right.

01:03:35.195 --> 01:03:38.364
And so the other thing was they need to be made in America.

01:03:38.735 --> 01:04:01.275
Because, everything I read online doing my research was that the boots that fall apart in, like you know, three months, six, six months, nine months, are the ones that you wear every day and put your weight through them, and they're made in china, they're made in mexico, and double h has it very clearly labeled on their boxes which ones are made in america and which ones aren't.

01:04:01.275 --> 01:04:04.746
And so everyone said look if you're good.

01:04:04.746 --> 01:04:07.193
Well, ariettes, they said.

01:04:07.193 --> 01:04:09.481
A lot of them were made in china but that's what I'm saying.

01:04:09.782 --> 01:04:10.425
But you said double.

01:04:10.425 --> 01:04:12.121
The double H's are American made.

01:04:12.715 --> 01:04:14.322
Well, they have it on the label.

01:04:14.322 --> 01:04:19.666
It says either made in Mexico or made in the USA, with global parts.

01:04:19.666 --> 01:04:20.367
Right.

01:04:20.367 --> 01:04:30.414
But everyone said if you're going to drop $200 to $300 on a pair of boots, the double H like American made ones ones are going to be tough as nails.

01:04:30.414 --> 01:04:34.405
They're going to last you a long time, especially if you rotate them out with other shoes.

01:04:34.405 --> 01:04:45.538
And, um, their ice sole is excellent for anything, whether it's like wet mud, ice, snow, yep, rain on rain on concrete, whatever.

01:04:45.538 --> 01:04:47.161
And I was like, okay, cool, sounds good.

01:04:47.161 --> 01:04:50.367
So I I tried on four pairs.

01:04:50.367 --> 01:04:53.460
I realized one boots run crazy tight.

01:04:53.460 --> 01:05:07.161
I wasn't even wearing my woolies when I was trying them on and it turned like I was like I cannot fit in my standard 11 fives and there's a break-in period too, like like uh for sure, but dude, I was like I kind of wear these with wool socks.

01:05:07.181 --> 01:05:11.108
They were so tight, so these were the only ones that really fit that well.

01:05:11.108 --> 01:05:21.266
The other two that fit were, like I said, one had skulls on them and another one was too light.

01:05:21.266 --> 01:05:28.699
It was lighter than your standard Carhartt brown Right and I was like these look like Uggs.

01:05:28.699 --> 01:05:34.126
Yeah, exactly they kind of look like straw and I was like I just don't want straw-colored boots.

01:05:34.126 --> 01:05:35.400
Yeah, for sure.

01:05:36.476 --> 01:05:37.420
I think you made a good choice.

01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:47.067
Thank you, man, thank you, and the last piece of my boot evaluation would be this, which is, if you're a top tucker, yeah, how do you earn?

01:05:47.086 --> 01:05:47.246
that.

01:05:47.246 --> 01:05:48.429
How do you earn it?

01:05:48.429 --> 01:05:50.554
I don't want it, yeah, cause it looks goofy.

01:05:50.554 --> 01:05:51.865
But how do you earn top tucker?

01:05:52.740 --> 01:06:02.327
You gotta be a man who works in the dirt and the mud, because the point of top tucking in is to keep that mud off your.

01:06:02.327 --> 01:06:05.072
You know like, if you're like, you gotta be shoveling.

01:06:05.072 --> 01:06:09.300
If you're shin deep, you tuck them in Right.

01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:21.213
And so, anyways, when you're at the seven 11 or you know wherever you're at the get the, you know Philip 66 out there and some guy walks in early in the morning, it's 6am and he's buying a hot dog.

01:06:21.213 --> 01:06:29.452
That's because it's lunchtime for him, yeah, and his pants are tucked into his boots and he's probably muddy.

01:06:30.302 --> 01:06:35.271
That's when you're allowed to be a top tucker, you know who I've seen be a top tucker, every time without fail.

01:06:35.271 --> 01:06:41.273
It's the guy who just got done laying concrete from 10 pm to 4 am.

01:06:41.273 --> 01:06:48.668
He's coming in to get his lunch and his boots are cold, wet concrete bricks.

01:06:49.210 --> 01:06:49.891
And he, he's like.

01:06:49.992 --> 01:06:53.246
I just don't want to deal with another pair of jeans being ruined from concrete.

01:06:53.246 --> 01:06:53.768
You know what I?

01:06:53.788 --> 01:06:57.126
mean exactly, and that's that's when I think the top tucking is acceptable.

01:06:57.126 --> 01:07:03.784
Unless you are seven years old and dressing like a cowboy that day, sure, you are then allowed to top tuck as well.

01:07:03.784 --> 01:07:06.126
That's my, that's my kind of soul.

01:07:06.126 --> 01:07:17.141
To top cowboy boot evaluation and, uh, like my boots, yeah, I always like to go pretty plain, maybe a little bit of something in there that just is fits me best.

01:07:17.141 --> 01:07:21.289
And uh, yeah, the uh, you know they last a long time.

01:07:21.289 --> 01:07:22.090
You can wear them out.

01:07:22.090 --> 01:07:34.509
Um, they protect your feet, and what I love about them too is like dress shoes suck and at least in our part of the world, cowboy boot is a dress is acceptable.

01:07:34.509 --> 01:07:43.903
Oh yeah, I don't know what they're doing on the east coast, but I know here, if you're walking into something a little more serious and you're writing even wedding funeral interview.

01:07:45.206 --> 01:07:46.550
Boots are fine, yep, you know.

01:07:46.769 --> 01:07:52.969
And so as long as I mean, you can't be walking with cow shit on maybe not depends on the interview, sure, or the funeral.

01:07:53.309 --> 01:07:58.521
Yeah, that's true um, well, and and I I really just wanted another.

01:07:58.521 --> 01:08:01.889
I loved my slip-on boots that were like.

01:08:01.889 --> 01:08:02.371
I've had.

01:08:02.371 --> 01:08:16.698
I've had two pairs of slip-on boots, one that was a you know, slide your foot in them and zip it up on the inside of the sole, because the laces were always laced and they were great like kind of uh traversing.

01:08:16.698 --> 01:08:20.908
They were called a bulldog shoot boots and they don't sell them in the us much anymore.

01:08:20.908 --> 01:08:23.220
They're mainly only in england.

01:08:24.844 --> 01:08:30.213
Um, and then the next ones I had were a pull on boot, pointed toe.

01:08:30.213 --> 01:08:31.301
That were really great.

01:08:31.301 --> 01:08:33.643
I just waxed them and polished them up and they're really good.

01:08:33.643 --> 01:09:13.210
But the soles on them, from all the times I've worn them out, hiking and camping, the soles on them have worn flat and melted flat and they actually now have the pattern of gravel because of how many times I put them up near the campfire on a cold night and then I started walking and they have a gravel pattern in them which just makes them like uncomfortable as hell and worn down, like it's such a flat sole like there's no grip on them, right, but they are the best boot I have right now for escaping and evading, because the tracks on them I've won.

01:09:13.210 --> 01:09:14.552
I've like looked at the tracks.

01:09:14.552 --> 01:09:20.819
The tracks just look like dirt because like it's just a gravel pattern moccasin yeah, it's awesome.

01:09:21.341 --> 01:09:23.644
Um, so I am excited, though.

01:09:23.644 --> 01:09:39.011
I have a pair of half waxes coming, and the waxy was the Rhodesian South African combat boot and it was really famous for being an excellent warm weather leather boot.

01:09:39.011 --> 01:09:53.643
And so I have a half waxy coming, which is pretty sick because you just lace it up and then you use the buckle to be your tighten and release, and so I those on the way and, uh, those are going to be my summer boots, I think.

01:09:53.643 --> 01:10:07.024
But these I really wanted a boot that I could fit, with wool socks on, slip on, doesn't need to be tied, uh, is clean and can be like a dress boot, but also can is not going to fall apart in the weather, like all my other boots have.

01:10:07.024 --> 01:10:15.710
Like, most of my boots fall apart within a year just because they're not designed to be worn every day of the year in the four seasons we get in colorado, right.

01:10:16.150 --> 01:10:17.957
So I'm really excited about these.

01:10:17.957 --> 01:10:19.841
I appreciate that you think they're cool.

01:10:19.841 --> 01:10:22.067
I also thought it was kind of.

01:10:22.067 --> 01:10:28.207
You know, when I looked it up and found out what they were, I was like, oh, that's a little Fitting.

01:10:28.207 --> 01:10:32.054
Yeah, you know, they're called the Mickey Bless me.

01:10:32.054 --> 01:10:36.407
Anyways, all that said.

01:10:36.407 --> 01:10:59.104
Last thing I want to go to I think, since we're recording this now, week of Thanksgiving, of thanksgiving, next time we record should be uh, or could be gift exchange christmas gifts.

01:10:59.125 --> 01:10:59.786
Okay, how do you feel about that?

01:10:59.786 --> 01:11:00.547
We can delay it.

01:11:00.547 --> 01:11:00.927
I think.

01:11:00.927 --> 01:11:07.006
I think potentially okay, maybe one extra, but potentially because I got yours.

01:11:07.247 --> 01:11:07.927
They showed up.

01:11:07.927 --> 01:11:09.171
I went through them.

01:11:09.171 --> 01:11:10.680
They're sick as fuck.

01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:14.331
All right, okay, I was like I look, I went through them and I actually had a moment.

01:11:14.331 --> 01:11:24.268
I was like here's the thing pat won't know what isn't his and he won't know if I take from his gifts and just keep them for myself and he has no idea.

01:11:24.268 --> 01:11:30.170
You're like an eight-year-old now, bro, it was like because, well like, I bought a little bit for me in the same shipment.

01:11:30.451 --> 01:11:30.712
Okay.

01:11:31.260 --> 01:11:34.970
And when it got here, I was like that's sick, that's sick, that's sick.

01:11:34.970 --> 01:11:38.804
Maybe he doesn't need that, maybe he don't need that.

01:11:38.804 --> 01:11:43.505
And I was like nah man, nah, this is my homie, this is his I bought this for.

01:11:43.505 --> 01:11:49.724
But what I didn't know until recently was that Billie Jean bought something for us.

01:11:49.724 --> 01:11:51.903
I don't know what it is, oh my gosh.

01:11:51.903 --> 01:11:56.685
But it's something for the podcast, oh my gosh yeah, so it's just kind of excited.

01:11:56.786 --> 01:11:58.083
It's two pink microphones.

01:11:58.083 --> 01:11:59.068
They could be here every night.

01:11:59.301 --> 01:12:05.239
It's funny, it's just like a giant, I'm right censor myself.

01:12:06.023 --> 01:12:07.228
I know it's just like.

01:12:07.228 --> 01:12:14.389
It's like we bought two pink microphones so we could join you yeah we just figured we'd make it like a couple's evening.

01:12:14.729 --> 01:12:26.204
It was like but this was boy time um no, I bet it's awesome I said if I'm gonna put my money out, I'm gonna put my money on it being some kind of sign.

01:12:26.204 --> 01:12:30.554
All All right, I think it's some kind of sign that lights up.

01:12:30.554 --> 01:12:32.225
That's what I put my money on.

01:12:32.225 --> 01:12:33.047
I don't know.

01:12:33.047 --> 01:12:34.605
I have nothing to base that off of.

01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:38.024
Do you want me to leave this in the podcast, or is this going to like?

01:12:38.125 --> 01:12:38.847
No, yeah, leave it.

01:12:39.802 --> 01:12:43.507
Is she the type of person who's like that was so awesome that you guessed that?

01:12:43.507 --> 01:12:48.172
Or is she the type, the person who's like that really took the wind out of my sails On my gift Cause?

01:12:48.172 --> 01:12:53.509
If I get a gift for somebody and they guess, but like I'm just like, well, why did I even get it for you?

01:12:53.509 --> 01:12:54.905
You could have got that yourself.

01:12:55.462 --> 01:12:58.270
Is that how you felt last year when you bought me this diorama gun?

01:12:59.184 --> 01:13:01.840
No, Because I mean, like you maybe could have.

01:13:03.046 --> 01:13:04.515
Wasn't it ironic that we both got it?

01:13:04.534 --> 01:13:05.359
I thought, it was great.

01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:06.524
I thought it was awesome.

01:13:06.524 --> 01:13:06.663
It.

01:13:06.663 --> 01:13:07.948
I thought it was awesome, it was super fun.

01:13:07.948 --> 01:13:08.770
We got the same gifts.

01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:11.421
Anyways.

01:13:11.421 --> 01:13:19.565
So you let me know, but they're here and they're ready All right, and I'm really excited for you opening them.

01:13:19.565 --> 01:13:21.306
I think there's some baller gifts.

01:13:21.619 --> 01:13:23.646
He's speaking in plural, or wokeness.

01:13:23.667 --> 01:13:25.480
Don't worry, don't worry, I'm not getting you like a gun.

01:13:25.480 --> 01:13:26.002
Oh right, don't worry.

01:13:26.002 --> 01:13:26.863
Don't worry, I'm not getting you like a gun.

01:13:26.863 --> 01:13:30.349
Oh right, I don't want to like, I don't want to overhype it that much, it's all right, I think.

01:13:30.349 --> 01:13:42.082
But it is like I would say, like it is like a step up, like it's like it's, it's, it's uh, it's not just something cool, that's an accessory for, like, our studio here.

01:13:42.082 --> 01:13:49.152
It's things that, like I think, you take and you'll go home and you'll be like I'm stoked to apply this shuriken.

01:13:49.412 --> 01:13:59.444
Yeah, fuck, damn it now I gotta return those and get something else oh, I know I like it.

01:13:59.644 --> 01:14:00.345
Oh, that's funny.

01:14:00.345 --> 01:14:03.570
Oh, man, no, I think I think.

01:14:03.570 --> 01:14:06.074
All right, game on next time.

01:14:07.202 --> 01:14:32.869
It's good if I have a date, I'm ready yeah, and well, we got to do it before the holidays, because then shipping locks down and we're both so out of town, but oh for sure how excellent is it you know as we sign off and as we wind down how excellent is it that Paul is just such a freaking saint and just continues to send us updates of what he's hunting?

01:14:32.869 --> 01:14:35.006
Yeah, dude, Pictures of him and his dog.

01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:37.025
Paul's out there getting it done.

01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:42.849
Paul does more than you and I If you think you're too old you're not no excuse dude.

01:14:42.989 --> 01:14:43.570
No excuse.

01:14:43.570 --> 01:14:48.530
He's been out there crushing the ducks with his new dog, Teal.

01:14:50.819 --> 01:14:51.641
Yeah, that's such a good photo too.

01:14:51.641 --> 01:14:53.006
I was like shocked by that picture.

01:14:53.006 --> 01:14:54.168
It was impressive for sure.

01:14:54.189 --> 01:14:54.650
I was like okay.

01:14:54.650 --> 01:14:55.921
I was like oh, he's taking good photos.

01:14:55.942 --> 01:15:00.904
How does he hold a gun and a camera to take up this kind of high resolution picture?

01:15:01.286 --> 01:15:02.573
it looked better than a phone picture.

01:15:02.573 --> 01:15:13.210
It's one of those things, too, where you could tell like he's taking real photos, not phone pictures, which in some ways we've been.

01:15:13.210 --> 01:15:16.828
Phones have come a long, long, long way.

01:15:16.828 --> 01:15:34.194
They really have To take photos, yeah, but at the same time we've been conditioned to think that they're acceptable as masterpieces, or photos in general have been cheapened because we consume thousands and thousands, and thousands a day just as we go about our life and so.

01:15:34.676 --> 01:16:03.367
but then every once in a while, you see a photo and you're like okay, this was taken with a real camera, that's a moment in time, frozen and it's awesome so yeah super cool picture of his dog retrieving a duck, and I think, yeah, uh, definitely in a little while here, because he, he said so, I think you know, and we said so when we were wrapping up, like at some point there's gotta be more, more, mr paul, more paul, dude telling us about uh with his uh, you know, I've had what I haven't.

01:16:03.427 --> 01:16:05.372
I've heard people you know talk about they're like they're in.

01:16:05.372 --> 01:16:06.341
That story was awesome.

01:16:06.341 --> 01:16:14.662
They've also said, like you know, they're like that guy's voice I love listening to paul, so you know if you don't like listening to us, that's fine.

01:16:14.662 --> 01:16:27.032
Every once in a while we're gonna get paul back on here to come tell you about his hunting exploits, what he's working on, what's happening out there you can listen to him, you know yeah, well, hey, with that, ken, thanks for joining us.

01:16:27.472 --> 01:16:30.159
Uh, it's awesome to be starting out the road.

01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:36.051
On year three uh, this is the year pat, I'm christening it now.

01:16:36.051 --> 01:16:38.743
This is the year where we aren't in the red.

01:16:38.743 --> 01:16:42.489
This is the year where we make more money creating content.

01:16:42.489 --> 01:16:44.761
All right, then we spend.

01:16:45.341 --> 01:16:50.833
Wow, I like this feels scary saying it, but I'm saying it, dog.

01:16:51.896 --> 01:16:53.841
Um, those of you have been with us.

01:16:53.841 --> 01:16:54.681
Thank you so much.

01:16:54.681 --> 01:16:55.524
We appreciate you.

01:16:55.524 --> 01:17:03.472
Uh, hey, I do want to shout out uh, someone I think you saw this right, pat, but like someone left a review for us.

01:17:03.472 --> 01:17:04.417
I haven't seen this.

01:17:04.417 --> 01:17:05.701
Tell me about it, okay, all right, let me.

01:17:05.701 --> 01:17:06.862
Let me pull up our web page.

01:17:06.862 --> 01:17:09.204
This is the signing off thing that I just think is cool.

01:17:10.127 --> 01:17:41.431
Um, someone that I cannot pin down in any way, shape or form of having a relation to us and like I'm probably saying this, and then you're like, oh, I know who that is, but, um, it was really sick, cause I feel like most of the feedback we get is is 100% people that we know or socialize with or have somewhat of an overlap with, and outside of that, we don't really get like much like you know, like people just are listening on YouTube and then they like like everyone.

01:17:41.431 --> 01:17:45.176
It's like no one comments when you're listening to a podcast, like no one leaves a comment.

01:17:45.176 --> 01:17:51.101
But this person left a review and it was a very specific review.

01:17:51.101 --> 01:17:56.815
Um, it was about I personally, my favorite thing that we talked about so far.

01:17:56.815 --> 01:17:58.921
Um, it went over the whole.

01:17:58.921 --> 01:18:10.115
Uh, excuse me, um, east of eden series, really, yeah, and it was a woman, which is crazy.

01:18:10.115 --> 01:18:17.326
Ayo, because I don't think we have that many women listeners, let alone women listeners who would leave a review.

01:18:17.326 --> 01:18:21.623
But AuraBund Don't know who that is.

01:18:21.623 --> 01:18:25.847
Aurabund one word Left us a review saying great insights.

01:18:26.060 --> 01:18:31.850
I just finished reading East of Eden for my book club and was absolutely amazed, traumatized, blown away by Steinbeck's deep dive into humanity.

01:18:31.850 --> 01:18:36.811
I love your conversations and it's helping me think more deeply about all the themes and characters in this story.

01:18:36.811 --> 01:18:45.255
I agree that it is a very masculine story but as a woman, there are many struggles with sin, choices, consequences that span all of humanity.

01:18:45.255 --> 01:18:46.886
I'm so glad I read this book.

01:18:46.886 --> 01:18:48.405
I think it will haunt me for a long time.

01:18:48.405 --> 01:18:55.962
And that consequences that span all of humanity.

01:18:55.962 --> 01:18:56.725
I'm so glad I read this book.

01:18:56.725 --> 01:18:57.728
I think it will haunt me for a long time.

01:18:57.747 --> 01:18:58.511
And that was left on itunes.

01:18:58.511 --> 01:18:58.770
Hey, who knew?

01:18:58.770 --> 01:18:59.072
That's awesome.

01:18:59.072 --> 01:19:01.158
What an excellent like feedback we got on our series from someone who's a total stranger.

01:19:01.158 --> 01:19:01.359
I like it.

01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:02.020
She's kin or a bun.

01:19:02.020 --> 01:19:02.862
You're out there.

01:19:02.862 --> 01:19:05.105
You can thank you, sister for sure.

01:19:05.105 --> 01:19:10.135
Anyways, all that said, we love you, we appreciate you.

01:19:10.135 --> 01:19:12.226
Thanks for going on this journey with us.

01:19:12.226 --> 01:19:18.850
We're happy to just provide you, even if it's just a means of staying awake on a long drive.

01:19:18.850 --> 01:19:19.811
That's all we do.

01:19:19.811 --> 01:19:21.033
We're happy to do it.

01:19:21.033 --> 01:19:32.360
If we provide you some sick gear recommendations, some great stories to laugh at, smile at, stories to tell, that's even better, uh.

01:19:32.360 --> 01:19:38.104
But yeah, pat, anything for uh, for our kin out there until next time.