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welcome to the mickey pass show.
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I'm mick and I'm pat I'm kind of sick yeah, you got the, got the crud, unknown, unknown virus, maybe the the the vid vid rona you never know these days it's not even worth testing, you know, because you're sick enough that you're just like I don't want to go out and do anything.
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And if it is the corona it's not like the, it's not going to kill you.
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It really just feels like a summer cold, yeah, but I mean, you sounded like well, I was listening to recording.
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You sounded like you had it not too long ago.
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Billie Jean just got over it the week before last and I just started feeling it.
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I remember last week when we were recording, I was like driving home I'm like I'm sick, I can feel it.
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I can feel it like boiling up into my brain but anyways, excuse me, I sound nasally or snotty, um, and not at my best.
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But I'm feeling pretty good now, pretty much over it.
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Just the congestion over the hump.
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Yeah.
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Um, thanks for joining us folk.
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Uh, we appreciate you taking time, as always, to check in every week.
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Um, this week, you know, as always, to check in every week.
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This week, you know, we both listened to the RFK Jr dropout and endorsement of Orange man, and you know, it's one of those things of like I'm bummed about it.
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But he's only dropping out in battleground states, so he's suspending his campaign in states that are swing states because he thinks it's hurting Orange man too much, man too much.
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That, without a doubt, um, what will you?
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What do we call her?
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Smiley lady?
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Yeah, uh, smiley lady will win the cackler.
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Yeah, cackling lady.
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Um, and so, uh, he is uh, suspending his campaign in order to not pull more votes away from orange man and endorsed voting for orange man in battleground states, but he's still running his campaign in non-battleground states, so that way, if you want to vote for him, you can vote for him without it affecting either party, right?
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you can vote for him.
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It's probably not going to really swing california away from cackley lady or, you know, colorado from cackley lady, or texas from orange man or uh, what's another big red one you know, like wyoming wyoming from red man, I mean from orange man.
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So all that said, um he.
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The reason we really want to kind of listen to speech and react to it is because he said things.
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It was funny.
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I was watching some other person react to it while it was live and he was like bro, this is the stuff that got his uncle and dad shot.
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Like, talking like this, like he was saying things about, you know, the government and its failures, that was seriously accusatory, just like JFK and RFK senior did, right.
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So so I was like all right, I got to listen to this.
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Then I listened to the whole thing.
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I was like dang, that was nuts.
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And then I've been telling people about it and people like no, no way, that's not real.
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Like, no, seriously.
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Like we got to look into this, these things he talked about.
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And sure enough, I've been looking so much more into, you know, autism diagnosis, obesity rates, ag, company that owns Monsanto and produces it, and I've been looking more and more into like pesticide and its correlation and all that, and so like there's just so much that he talks about and points blame on that, I was like dude, this guy's like he's making some heavy statements Like you gotta be able to back it up and like you can back it up Everything he's saying.
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You can read the you know reports and papers that have come out about it and the studies and like you know fact, check them on it.
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And he's he's nailing it all in the head.
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So I also just think, like I, if anything, this is solidified, that I'm going to vote for him.
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Um, just because, like he has taken, he's recognized.
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Okay, the worst thing is not me losing, the worst thing is this person winning.
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And even though I'm not as big of a fan as this guy, as a classical liberal, him and I have more in common policy wise than I do with her you what I mean.
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And so he's now just like all right, like I gotta, we gotta, make some progress here.
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And I guess, like you know, I remember he got interviewed right before orange guy picked his vp.
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It was a couple weeks before he picked his vp and they're like, hey, would you like say yes to being orange guy's vp?
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And he's like no, no, like I wouldn't.
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And they're like, would you serve on his county?
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He's like no, and he like dismissed it.
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And then, I guess, right after the you know, the assassination, I think, put everything in perspective.
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Because the assassination is when really they started like that was like within that week they flipped from sleepy man to smiley lady and like it was because like shit, we can't win right now, dude, um, and it was just one of those things where, um, I think that put it in perspective for him.
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And now he's like you know, it's actually not the worst thing if I was on this dude's cabinet, because at least he's got, he's open to hearing, he's open to me fixing things and like letting me go in and clean house and actually do stuff without being like you know, step, get in my way of doing it right.
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So it's kind of.
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And also, I think honestly rfk is still young enough and healthy enough that you know if he was on orange Man's ticket, they went to the White House.
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He could easily change from being the head of FDA to running for president four years later and easily swing it out once enough people get the confidence of like oh, he's doing a lot of stuff in there.
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I don't know.
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I want to do the reaction to his speech.
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It's 48 minutes.
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We'll pause it and like just comment on stuff that we find interesting and we're gonna run it on like a 2x not 2x but one and a half x just to kind of make sure we push through it and there's time to talk about it.
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But I think it's important our listeners get to hear what he has to say, because so many people I think just what's sad was like I was watching the guy reacting and so many of the people who were tuning into a stream reacting to it like all they were like oh, dude, I can't I can't stand his voice.
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Oh dude, how could someone with that voice be our president?
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I'm like, just listen to what he is saying.
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Like, just like, what does it matter what he sounds like.
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Like it was so superficial, that was like that was pretty much everyone who wasn't, you know, of course, conservative or independent leaning that was all of their opinion was like, haha, you really want this guy who can't even get a sentence out, to be president.
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Like I'd rather have biden again and it's just like.
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No, you're just gonna vote for whoever they tell you to vote for One's a physical disability.
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Other one's a mental disability.
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Well, actually it's a mental disability.
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It's neurological, but it doesn't have to do with his brain debilitating, know, brain debilitating, right, um, but what I realized after listening to that speech was like I actually have a hard time listening to orange man talk now.
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Oh yeah, because I'm just like I I feel like rfk spoiled us with like a very presidential speaker you know, what I mean.
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It's so like the cadence of anyone else talking is kind of hard for me to listen to.
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On either side of it I'm like, oh my gosh, neither of them can communicate it very clearly and concisely.
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Yeah.
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So have you seen this yet?
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Have you watched it yet?
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Pat, I haven't seen it all the way through, but I've seen a lot of clips from it.
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I've seen the big key points takeaways from it and seen, like the you know, the big point key points takeaways from it, and I think that I've been on.
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Yeah, for rfk has been interesting to me this whole time because he's just to your point.
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What you're getting at is he seems like someone who can put together coherent sentences but also from the heart, like he's not just he's not just babbling out talking points of what he's supposed to say, he's actually addressing issues and things.
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So and I think that, um, from what I have heard from him, I think that, yeah, he's carries himself in a as a much stronger presence or like potential leader in that, in the way that he he talks, he's not just, for whatever reason, like almost every big time politician, just they don't say anything.
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No, it's just lip service.
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Yeah, I think I think Vance and Waltz.
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I think both of them are very noisy about the things they stand for.
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They actually are both pretty decent speakers.
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Yeah, um, it's unfortunate that, like on that ticket, they're better at speaking than you know.
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The actual like president runners, like what is it?
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Candidates, candidates, yeah, um, so anyways, but here here we'll go, we'll hop right into it.
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Um, and I can, uh, I can, skip through um need be, but there's just a lot that he says that I think's again important for people to hear.
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Um, just because this guy could have been our president, man, he could be our president still next time.
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There is a chance he explains it in the speech.
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There is a chance that in a runoff of 269 and 269 for both Orange man and Smiley Lady, that he could be an incumbent president.
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Right, with like the remaining votes.
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Right, well, not the remaining votes, but with like.
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Then it goes into them voting Like.
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Everyone just gets to vote for who they think is most fit.
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And it doesn't have to be in accordance to the electoral college.
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So I just thought that was interesting.
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Here we go 16 months ago, in April of 2023, I launched my campaign for president United States.
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I began this journey as a Democrat, the party my father, my uncle, a party which I pledged my own allegiance to long before I was old enough to vote.
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I attended my first Democratic convention at the age of six in 1960.
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And back then, the Democrats were the champions of the Constitution of civil rights.
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The Democrats stood against authoritarianism, against censorship, against colonialism, imperialism and unjust wars.
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We were the party of labor, of the working class.
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The Democrats were the party of government transparency and the champion of the environment.
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Our party was the bulwark against big money interests and corporate power.
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True to its name, it was the party of democracy.
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As you know, I left that party in October because it had departed so dramatically from the core values that I grew up with.
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It had become the party of war, censorship, corruption, big pharma, big tech, big ag and big money.
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When it abandoned democracy by canceling the primary to conceal the cognitive decline of the sitting president, I left the party to run as an independent.
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The mainstream of American politics and journalism derided my decision.
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Conventional wisdom said that it would be impossible even to get on the ballot as an independent because each state poses an insurmountable tangle of arbitrary rules for collecting signatures.
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I would need over a million signatures, something no presidential candidate in history had ever achieved, and then I'd need a team of attorneys and millions of dollars to handle all the legal challenges from the DNC.
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The naysayers told us that we were climbing a glass.
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First thing, right there, my reaction when I was hearing that is like this is just also absolute bullshit.
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This is just also absolute bullshit, like the fact that, like this is the hoops that all of these candidates have to jump through to be able to even remotely like stand a chance to get on the ballot, let alone get into like debates.
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Like bro, there's no way any of these other electorates on the republican or democratic tickets could have achieved this, gotten remotely close to those things.
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Right, jeb bush, there's no way he would have ever gotten a million signatures but yet he was still allowed to participate in party debates.
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Right, you know, I mean it was just like the fact that, like we really ask yourself if you listen to this.
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I really challenge people ask themselves Is there anywhere in you know our state of mind of a free, you know, independent, self-governing nation, that this guy shouldn't be allowed to debate either side?
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Like it makes no sense to me that here we are in August and that for the last year and a half he's been invited, he hasn't been allowed in any debates.
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That is ludicrous.
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Like that is absolutely asinine, in my opinion.
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Definitely, and there has to be ways that you I mean you can't just let everybody off the street- come into the thing, right, but the, like you said, the amounts of signatures, everything you need to jump through the hoops to even get involved, is pretty astronomical, which would like almost put you at.
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If any of those other candidates could do that.
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That would almost save for the fact that they were going to win you know and like the fact that, like I know, orange man said like he was.
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He was like I'd be totally up to like debating him, but due to laws, regulatory laws, it was said like oh no, it's actually illegal for you, as a presidential candidate, to debate with someone who's not another presidential candidate and I was like this is insane.
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Like anyone can debate him when it's an interview, right, but like the fact that they'd be on stage and taking questions it's somehow illegal at a federal level and I like I was trying to understand the laws wrapped around it and I'm just like what purpose does any of this serve, other than to like make it harder for the american people to hear other opinions on how the country should be run?
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You know what I mean anyways, but that was like the first thing that I was just like I can't believe I'm seeing this guy drop out of the race and I never got to like see him once debate someone live, yeah, and he comes out swinging.
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You know mentioned comparing him to just like the party of war.
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You know like that's the truth coming out.
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Yeah, it's like the conservative party.
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The gop didn't block him anywhere.
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The gop didn't run them out of any states.
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It was in all of the dnc states, like all the primarily blue states that were running them out.
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You know what I mean.
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And making it impossible, throwing legal loopholes at them constantly to keep them gummed up and from being able to be on any uh ballots to vote for oh yeah past version of mountain impossible.
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So the first thing I want to tell you is that we proved them wrong.
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We did it because, beneath the radar of mainstream media organs, we inspired a massive independent political movement.
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More than a hundred thousand volunteers sprang into action, hopeful that they could reverse our nation's decline.
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Many work 10-hour days, sometimes in blizzards and blazing heat.
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They sacrifice family time, personal commitments and sleep.
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Month after month, energized by a shared vision of a nation healed of its divisions, they set up tables at churches and farmers markets.
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They canvassed toward a tour In Utah and in New Hampshire.
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Volunteers collected signatures in snowstorms, convincing each supporter to stop in the frigid cold, take off their gloves and to sign legibly.
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During a heat wave in Nevada, I met a tall athletic volunteer who cheerfully told me that he had lost 25 pounds collecting signatures in 117 degree heat.
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To finance this effort, young Americans donated their lunch money and senior citizens gave up part of their Social Security checks.
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Our 50-state organization collected those millions of signatures and more.
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No presidential campaign in American political history has ever done that.
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That's crazy American political history has ever done.
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That.
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That's crazy, and so I want to thank all of those dedicated volunteers and congratulate the campaign staff who coordinated this enormous logistical feat.
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Your accomplishments were regarded as impossible.
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You carried me up that glass mountain.
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You pulled off a miracle.
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You achieved what all the pundits said could never be done.
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You have my deepest gratitude, and I'm never going to forget that, not just for what you did for my campaign, but for the sacrifices you made because you love our country.
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You showed everyone that democracy is still possible here.
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It continues to survive in the press and in the idealistic human energies that still thrive beneath a canvas of neglect and of official and institutional corruption.
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Today, I'm here to tell you that I will not allow your efforts to go to waste corruption.
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Today, I'm here to tell you that I will not allow your efforts to go to waste.
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I'm here to tell you that I will leverage your tremendous accomplishments to serve the ideals that we share the ideals of peace, of prosperity, of freedom, of health, all the ideals that motivated my campaign.
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I'm here today to describe the path forward that you've opened with your commitment and with your hard labors.
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Now, in an honest system, I believe that I would have won the election In a system that my father and my uncles thrived in, a system with open debates, with fair primaries, with regularly scheduled debates, with fair primaries and with a truly independent media untainted by government propaganda and censorship.
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In a system of nonpartisan courts and election boards, everything would be different.
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It's one thing when, like you know, you have the conservative party being like the media is unfair and paints us and like is like manipulating things, and then, like you know, democrat party never says it, but like they might be.
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Like well, fox is always like totally unfair and biased, right, right, and he goes on here, but like it's just like it's one thing to be like you both point at each other, accusing each other for the same thing you're doing, but then when the dude who's independent picks aside and he's like no, you, you guys, are like real ones corrupting that Like it's also just like okay, all right, so maybe, kind of like, maybe there's no denying it now.
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You know what I mean.
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Right, right, just admit it, yep.
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After all, the polls consistently showed me beating each of the other candidates both in favorability and also in head-to-head matchups.
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But I'm sorry to say that, while democracy may still be alive at the grassroots, it has become a little more than a slogan for our political institutions, for our media and for our government and, most sadly at all for me, the Democratic Party.
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In the name of saving democracy, the Democratic Party set itself to dismantling it, Lacking confidence in its candidate, that its candidate could win in a fair election.
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At the voting booth, the DNC waged continual legal warfare against both President Trump and myself.
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Each time that our volunteers turned in those towering boxes of signatures needed to get on the ballot, the DNC dragged us into court, state after state, attempting to erase their work and to subvert the will of the voters who had signed those petitions.
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It deployed DNC-aligned judges to throw me and other candidates off the ballot and to throw President Trump in jail.
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It ran a sham primary that was rigged to prevent any serious challenge to President Biden.
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Then, when a predictably debatable debate performance precipitated the palace coup against President Biden, the same shadowy DNC operatives appointed his successor, also without an election.
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They installed a candidate just I mean he's just your eyebrows jumped at that one.
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Well, I mean, because he's just, yeah, just he's throwing it out there, like yeah, just like I mean, and calling it for what it is and what it was and nobody accepted, you know.
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Like, yeah, biden didn't, uh, didn't, pull himself out of the race necessarily.
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And like, yeah, at least willingly, and and then just shadowy operatives, I mean dnc appointed judges is what he's saying you know, yeah and like and is dnc, that's democratic national convention yeah judges yeah, why is that?
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why is that a title like yeah, it feels like it's a um conflict of interest interest?
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you should be an american judge.
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Federal judge is that a position I don't understand.
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No, I think it's literally like the dnc appointing judges over the cases of whether or not he's allowed to be on a ballot in a state.
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Yep, it's just it's a sounds a little uh mobstery to me well, and it's one of those things too, like at this point, a lot of people are like how much money did trump pay him?
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Like, oh man, like he's really sucking the trump off.
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And it's just like do you really think a guy who's made a career taking the trillion dollar companies to court over poisoning the environment, do you really think that guy can be paid off?
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Right?
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Do you think Trump has enough money to pay him off?
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No, no, not anywhere.
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And also, what is it?
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Does Trump have any money or not?
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Right?
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You know what I mean.
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But cause like here's, my thing is like not anywhere.
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And also, what is it?
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Does trump have any money or not?
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right, you know, like, but because like here's, my thing is like this guy has taken company after company to court and the government to court and sued the hell out of them for poisoning rivers, poisoning soil, poisoning people.
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You can look up any of his kind of like big court cases.
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The one against monsanto and roundup is like the biggest one, of course, um, in recent years.
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But if you don't think for a moment those companies didn't try to grease his wheels with the big ass paycheck, then like I don't know what fantasy you're living in.
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And if you think that he said no to that and was like, no, I'll see you in court and yeah, it's gonna be hell, and it's gonna be hell and it's gonna be miserable and it's gonna be a knockout, drag out fight, but like we're gonna do it because we're gonna win and eventually we'll we'll dry you out and you're gonna owe, you're gonna owe damages for what you've done, right, do you think like trump can come to be like, hey, flip, flip on that dnc, like you know, say all these bad things about the democratic party and Kamala Harris is a candidate, and then join me on my side for $1 billion?
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You know what I mean Join the dark side.
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He doesn't have more money than those companies and so, like, I think really what we're seeing is just like a dude who went into the race initially to like, hey, I'm gonna do my best to run independent here, since the democratic party ticket won't let me run.
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And then it was like, and he wasn't a fan of either.
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And then now he's at the end.
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He's like you know what?
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They've burned me so hard with the butt of cigarettes.
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You know what I mean?
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Like that I'm just I'm burnt against them, like and I'm flipping on my own volition here, like you know, and like he's still, because he would still describe himself as a classical liberal.
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Right, are you?
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Are you pulling up the video to watch as well, or?
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um, no, okay I just didn't know if you wanted me to tell you the time we're at.
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No it's fine so unpopular with voters that she dropped out in 2020 without winning a single delegate.
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My uncle and my father owe the relish to debate.
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They prided themselves on their capacity to go toe-to-toe with any opponent in the battle over ideas.
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They would be astonished to learn of a Democratic Party presidential nominee who, like Vice President Harris, has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days.
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This is profoundly undemocratic.
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How are people to choose when they don't know whom they are choosing, and how can this look to the rest of the world?
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My father and my uncle were always conscious of America's image abroad because of our nation's role as the template for democracy, the role model for democratic processes and the leader of the free world.
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Instead of showing us her substance and character, the DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based upon well, nothing no policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors and balloons in a highly reduced Chicago circus.
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There in Chicago, a string of Democratic speakers mentioned Donald Trump 147 times just on the first day.
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Who needs a policy when you have Trump to hate?
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In contrast, at the RNC convention, president Biden was mentioned only twice in four days.
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I do interviews every day.
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Many of you have interviewed me.
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Anybody who asks gets to interview me.
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Some days, I do as many as 10.
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President Trump, who actually was nominated and won an election, also does interviews daily.
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How did the Democratic Party choose a candidate that has never done an interview or debate during the entire election cycle?
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We know the answers.
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They did it by weaponizing the government agencies.
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They did it by abandoning democracy.
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They did it by suing the opposition.
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It is just crazy.
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And by disenfranchising American voters.
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What most alarms me isn't how the Democratic Party conducts its internal affairs or runs its candidates.
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What alarms me is will you look up when the last time that's happened, when someone for the Democratic Party was made presidential nominee without there?
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being a vote?
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I think never.