The Mick & Pat Show - Gummies to Green Berets

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a lot happened.

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A lot happened.

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Did we talk about the guy last week?

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We did a little bit.

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The two guys, we talked about both.

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I guess there's not that much to say about that well, and because the first well louisiana guy as much yeah and uh, we talked a lot more about the louisiana guy than we did the Tesla guy.

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I have no memory of that.

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It was just brief.

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We were just like both these things happened and we focused on the Louisiana guy because, hey, are these to share, by the way?

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Yeah, these are to share.

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Pat, here is shelling out for some Vigilance Elite gummy bears, oh yeah, which actually weren't these a Christmas gift to you by your brother-in-law, or something last year.

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They were last year.

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This year.

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I ordered them actually while we were doing the podcast, like three weeks ago.

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Oh yeah, they popped up like I was like oh, I just like, while we were talking, I got on there and I just ordered four bags.

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They are pretty good.

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I eat them one at a time because of how flavorful they are.

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I know, I was driving in my truck today and I just like mindlessly dumped a whole handful in and then, just you know like dad-disposaled them.

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And I was like what have I done?

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What a waste.

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I was working, hadn't eaten.

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I was hungry very delicious shoveling some horse hoof and it's hard to come by.

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but uh, they were available and I ordered them up.

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Thank you, I wonder, I wish, I wish I could know from a businessman's perspective, like gummy bears alone, what that brings in to what he does, especially like around the holidays, like, like, did they order like literally an 18 wheeler full, or did they just order like 12 cases?

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Yeah, I'd assume, because how large his following is and how much he pushes it every show somewhere between 12 cases and 18 wheeler, maybe two 18 wheelers, I no idea.

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I just like to know we ever listened to sean ryan uh, when he gave his like testimonial.

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I can't remember what show he was being interviewed on, it was like a news channel and he talked about how he decided to be like a drug, like a very wealthy and successful, like drug dealer yeah, I saw that.

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I saw a clip of like the section of that.

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Yeah, I'm sure he just also pretty much used a lot of those connections, not because he did it like a very clean drug dealing way right, you know what I mean.

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He lived down in south america and he, like he took basically his like c CIA-ish training and then how to build relationships, build networks, and then yeah, and he— Moved stuff around.

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He also like did it through businesses?

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Right, a lot of it was through businesses, not through like a crap load of cartel stuff, you know Mm-hmm.

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So I'm sure he was in contact already with people in industries who could help him, you know, get the freight going and get the candy manufacturing going and stuff like that.

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Gosh, those are yummy and even like, even if he's not using the same people.

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It's the same thing selling a baggie full of sweets and a baggie full of powders.

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From a business perspective, it's the same, pretty much the same model get the, get the product to the customer, the logistics behind it.

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Now one of them you don't have to worry about.

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You know product sells itself going to jail.

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That's the thing about like food and if it like if the drugs are good, they sell themselves.

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If the If the food is good, it sells itself.

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You just have to figure out the logistics of actually shipping it.

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Or convince people that it's good too.

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That's the thing too.

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You don't have to convince a lot of people.

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Most people will just put anything in their mouth, though I feel like Right, right, but being like I'm not a gummy bear connoisseur yeah, neither am I, but they are proclaimed the greatest in the world or the best ones ever.

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Yeah, and when I put in my mouth, I agree, just because I've been told that you know.

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So, like, hey man, this is the good stuff, here's the good stuff, all right I'll keep that in mind.

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Just like like.

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It's like like you got like a freshman in a dorm room and they're like dude, this is the good stuff.

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Yeah, and it's, you know, just some freaking fireball.

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Yeah, you know whatever.

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Like oh my god, that's like.

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That's like yeah, dude, this is top shelf, this is like the cream of the crop.

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They're like oh, yeah, man for sure.

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So anyways, I don't know, but that's the.

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I think I think when you tell people who don't know, then they believe it.

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It's true.

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But yeah, so we were talking about Sean Ryan and Gummy Bears and we're talking about a guy who blew himself up in a Tesla truck.

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Yeah, so they kind of go together.

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This week, matt Livelsberger is the former Green Beret that uh, quote, unquote, uh, according to a lot of the narrative, apparently took his own life with the desert Eagle right after pulling into the you know trump tower um, what is that valet spot?

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Um, and then detonated these fireworks to draw attention to this memo uh, which really wasn't really a memo, I guess it was just a briefing actually.

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Um, and this briefing email he sent out to quite a few people, sending out to sean ryan, and they talked about it.

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But anyways, the the question now is one is anything this guy said in his briefing true?

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uh because he talked about how the drones are uh gravitic, uh anti-gravitic technology that the chinese have and that america also has and now chinese flexing that they have it which would also be known to the layman as a spaceship but like an alien but like a craft able to hover, it doesn't take any rocket fuel and it doesn't take any rocket fuel and it doesn't take any fuel.

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yeah.

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It just zips around, which I would.

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I am interested to see how that kind of plays out narratively wise, I think the more important thing actually that he accused was these war crimes that occurred in Syria, of a drone strike from the US government that killed over 100 women and children who were working inside of a drug manufacturing warehouse, and the US, after finding out the casualty rate, apparently covered it up, and a couple of generals and such that this Green Beret was under command of and he was attached to this operation, just went along with covering up.

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Un, united Nations went along with covering up, and, uh, he's, he feels real bad about it and wants to blow the whistle on it and um, the question, though, is is one any of this true?

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And two, is he still alive?

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Because, one, the video camera doesn't show any self-deleting while the vehicle's outside of the trump tower.

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So the question is then okay, did he self-delete himself while driving there and then somehow had a?

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You know, there's quite a few ways to set up explosives.

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I've been reading a lot through special forces uh, handbooks about to set how to set up, build up, build ieds and stuff, and how to set up, like, um, unconventional timers for explosives and um.

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So there's a lot of ways he could have done it right where, like when it comes to stop um, there could have been like a momentum charge or something like that to set off the fireworks.

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But anyways, a lot of it looks like um one.

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He wasn't doing this intentionally to hurt people.

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You know, the fireworks are all loaded up in a vehicle like this and if he's a green beret he should know how to make a vehicle born ied, and so it definitely seems more and more as things are coming out that this was done as a stunt to draw attention.

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He also said that he had intentionally designed this vb ied because he was using it as a way of keeping the feds away from him, because he believed they were following him on his way to get to mexico to cross the border.

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Now, another thing that I'm just like not sure about is I don't think that's very legitimate, because this came out on the sean ryan show, and where did sean ryan primarily operate?

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Mexico and latin america for the cia.

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So it's kind of one of those things of like.

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Why would he go to mexico?

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Mexico's got some of the most like deeply seated cia informants and cells, so it's kind of one of those things of like.

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I don't really think it'd be wise to go there and once you cross there, then you might like sicario like the movie sicario style like they want to you over there.

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Maybe it's like potentially um, there's also stuff that came out, apparently that there was recently a genetic test for him and his son and it wasn't matched so he might have gone.

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You know some pretty upsetting, earth-shattering news, I guess.

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Also, there was apparently recently an affair that came out about his wife or girlfriend whoever she is was having an affair on him.

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There's just a lot of like things that could be like very high stress inducing fracture, like things that can make someone crack, let alone someone who's been in super high stress situations, someone who's covered in guilt and feels guilty, and about things can make a man do some pretty crazy stuff.

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Um, because like we, like we, we have people who do crazy stuff all the time.

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And like the louisiana um driver of the that, what do you?

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What do you call him?

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I mean, he's a terrorist, but he wasn't a mass shooter, because I don't think he actually shot anyone I think he got it.

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Yeah, I mean, it's just a terrorist attack, I guess.

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Do we have a name for these types of vehicular, you know?

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yeah, assault people.

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Yeah, um, mass vehicular killing, mass vehicular killer anyways.

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Um, that guy was pretty, also bonkers and crazy, and I don't think there's anything to indicate that that guy had a recent thing in his life from what we know, like I know his brothers come forward and spoken about it and I know other people have, but, like a lot of people no one came forward with.

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Like, yeah, he just had this pretty trauma inducing thing, like the man just is a dude who came back from war and probably felt some empathy for his enemy which is always one of the number one issues of war and then became radicalized and, you know, decided it was, you know, up to him to bring justice onto america for what amer has done overseas you know stuff like that and that guy didn't, you know, recently have a wife cheating on him.

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He didn't just find out his son, it wasn't his, you know.

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So it's one of those things like you have two cases of like, it doesn't take much to probably break someone like this to a point where the stress can start sounding like the only reasonable thing to do is something drastic.

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That said, I know I'm rambling, but hear me out, pat, here's my real kind of my theory.

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I think all these, I think all of this stuff occurred to them and I am.

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You know it's unfortunate, but the likelihood that our us government did cover up something like that in syria is pretty high.

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And I think the whole trump tower, the email, the picking a tesla, the, everything down from like literally fireworks and a gun, and the whatever else he could have planned because he the reason people think he's alive is because his phone number, uh, the code for the signal app that he, that, like when you're on signal, you get like a special numeric code, um, that is, uh, essentially keyed and encrypted um, and you have to manually elect through a couple options to change that code.

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And it changed after he was dead, which would be very hard for someone to do if they didn't have his phone on hand.

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And even then it's hard to do because you have to put in the pen and then things like that.

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You have to get past through a couple of walls, and so that's why people think he might be alive, because his encryption code changed after time of death apparently.

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And people think, oh, what if he, you know, just grabbed a body from the morgue?

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he set the elon car on auto drive yeah, with the body in the seat.

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And here's the thing, bro, he was a zulu 18, which that doesn't really matter.

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The call sign all you need to know is like, that's someone who's got some pretty big uh, authority, like they get to.

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They get to call on some people for things, and I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult for him to grease the palms to get a dental record to match that of some joe schmo that he just copped out of a morgue or knew he was going to cop out of a morgue, right, like, hey, take these dental records, say that they're mine, copy them, because that's how they identified the body as his.

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They did.

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And that's also the weird thing is they said the DNA of the body doesn't match his son's, right.

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So it's hard to say if it's even his body in there.

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But anyways, I think all of it might have been done as a complete stunt to try to make as much noise as possible, to try to make the government answer to the American people.

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Did this war crime occur?

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Were?

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we involved?

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Were we responsible?

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Did we cover it up?

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And I honestly think I'd do the same thing, like if I was in his shoes, right, if I was at that breaking point, I would be like, and I was like riddled with that kind of guilt, I could see myself being like man, no one's gonna give two rats ass if I just do this and go scream on a street, and I can't do it in a way that's gonna hurt people, you know, or kill anyone.

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So I'll just say all the buzzwords gravure technology, china, aliens, you know, whatever, right, and I don't.

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That's that's where I see that's the best I can try to make sense out of it, like you can.

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You know, as you were saying, you can, you can see how you could.

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Yeah, you could get to that point of like, yeah, desperation I can 100 put myself in those shoes and think like I have to go balls to the wall if anyone's gonna take this seriously and listen to me.

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It is crazy, though, how close in proximity he was to us.

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Like he, he's out of Colorado Springs and like I know people who like knew him, like they weren't buddies, right, but like I know people who were like yeah, like seen that guy like every week for like the last 10 years or so.

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You know what I mean.

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Like just because they went in the same social circles and I just think that's.

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You know, Colorado Springs is such a military hub, but it's just one of those things that feels really, really weird, and so I kind of have a vested interest just to see how it shakes out.

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But anyways, before I say any more, your thoughts yeah, no, I think that there's.

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It's getting a lot of attention from a couple different angles.

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The stuff he put in his email that he sent out and I guess, for those of you who may not know, basically he sent an email out to it seemed like a similar email to a lot of different people, to multiple people, or influencers or social media people who thought might pick it up.

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I think he also sent it to the FBI, like he self-ratted.

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The FBI is who validated that the email was out there.

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That's true, because there was a lot of conjecture around if this email was even real and the FBI said it is, it was from him.

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Yeah, because there was a lot of conjecture around if this email was even real and the FBI said it is, it was from him.

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And basically, you know, a guy who saw the email come through to him took it out on the, you know, on the, took it to the Sean Ryan show and they did like a kind of emergency podcast where they blasted out the email, put the information on there, talk about what happened out the email, put the information on there, talk about what happened and um, the um, the kind of different things to look at are yeah, obviously the big claim about um, alien type, you know, uh, weaponry of you know world war three shows like stand down right.

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What is it?

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between China and US on these like crazy super weapons, and then the next one being at war crimes, and then you know the, this other piece being, you know, did he?

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Is he alive or not?

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Right?

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And so I think that I'd be like are the?

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Are anti or the gravitic propulsion devices real?

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Whatever, I'm like a 90% to 95%.

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No, there's a little part of my brain that's like I don't know.

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I will say, as someone who's worked on DOD servers and migrated, you know, and naval data, right, I've not seen any of those.

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Uh, you know through departments with their four-letter acronyms in the military, that's just like ag, you know, anti-gravitic vehicle database agv like ag, av, no, whatever agvd.

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There we go, um, you know, it's just like now.

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Of course, yeah, would I would.

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I know no, because as my I work with a guy who was, uh, he's ranger, um, for most of his career and he was even pretty up there with some top secret clearances on on the teams and he's a very humble guy, but he was like, of course you wouldn't know and of course I wouldn't know.

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Only two people know.

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One of them was him, right, and it's like that's the explanation.

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Right, you know, that's the reasoning yeah, for sure.

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and so I think you know I'd say there's stuff, there's weapons out there that not everybody gets to know about, not everybody gets known.

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Without a doubt.

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But the you know.

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And so then the next piece of war crimes.

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I could 50-50 as far as like, true or false, I don't know.

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It's just as likely to be false as it is true.

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But like yeah, it's just like.

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Unfortunately, the US has made quite a few war crimes, right, yeah, and uh, so it's like, and in war.

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And then, yeah, like in war is war, and so war crimes happen, um, not excusing them, but it's what happens.

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And then the uh, and if he's alive or not, you know, I think that I don't think he's alive, you think he's dead.

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I think he's dead now, now that's what they want you, yeah, now here's, I would say.

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The fun part of my brain does think is that he's jason bourne.

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Exactly, it is like okay, so there's lots of argument on the.

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The comment feeds right now around um people saying you don't know how a tesla works.

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Works, you couldn't just put a body in there and it drive itself somewhere.

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These different things, how many of these?

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people put a dead body in their Tesla.

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Exactly, I would say that's true, and also I don't know what somebody could or couldn't do to make that thing.

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Basically, it's sensing if you have your hands on the wheel or not, whatever different things.

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But um the uh, I I think it's possible, but not plausible that yeah, there could have been a switcheroo sent over there.

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He, so he.

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He picked a car that could drive itself.

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He picked a car that could drive itself.

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He picked a car that would contain could contain a pretty large blast.

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Didn't really build that big of an explosive device or dangerous device.

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If he wanted to hurt people, he'd just throw a full fertilizer.

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There were seven people injured, but I haven't.

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I don't know what the extent of those injuries are Now and, granted, me and my kids could have been walking out front at that moment too, and it could have just been, if you're standing right next to it and I don't know like, were they all standing right next to it and they're fine, or were they like 40 feet away and they got whacked by a little bit of something in the arm and got injured Right so.

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I don't know the extent I was looking at.

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I was trying to look up the extent of the injuries but I couldn't find it just now.

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I just think if his intention was to freaking cause harm.

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Yeah, the point being, I think that even there's all sorts of people out there, a middle schooler with a handgun who hurts a lot more people than somebody who's highly trained in hurting people.

00:21:22.028 --> 00:21:23.931
Highly trained in hurting people, yeah Right.

00:21:23.931 --> 00:21:41.820
And so I think that um there's um some validity to his you know saying, or to the to the argument being you know, it wasn't intent, it wasn't to hurt people, um, but so, um, also, how effective is his um stunt going to be?

00:21:41.820 --> 00:21:42.281
I don't know either.

00:21:42.281 --> 00:21:42.702
Um stunt going to be?

00:21:42.722 --> 00:21:50.354
I don't know either you know, because in one more week from now, let's see what the new cycle is on to, or you know who gives a crap about it or not?

00:21:50.354 --> 00:22:06.241
Um, and then there's the classic thing where, as um, it's almost like, um, any good thriller novel about a, a special ops guy, or any good movie about special ops guy, who's you know.

00:22:06.241 --> 00:22:14.752
Now he's found himself, you know, on the other side of what he was working for and what happens after the fact?

00:22:15.420 --> 00:22:23.832
what happens to you know, whatever any of those characters, they get the first thing, the first word that gets pulled out on them PTSD, yeah.

00:22:23.832 --> 00:22:26.689
And then they dig up stuff in their family life.

00:22:26.689 --> 00:22:28.035
You know he had a kid?

00:22:28.035 --> 00:22:30.386
Yeah, he found out his kid wasn't his.

00:22:30.386 --> 00:22:32.003
And that's the other thing about the DNA piece being.

00:22:32.003 --> 00:22:35.952
Some people are saying the DNA doesn't match his kid.

00:22:35.952 --> 00:22:40.590
But I don't know if they're checking that body's DNA or if they were cross-referencing his.

00:22:40.590 --> 00:22:48.682
I mean, he's in the military, there's a record of his dna.

00:22:48.682 --> 00:22:53.719
So I don't know if they're they're saying, hey, like there was a dna test done, a paternal test, he's not the father, or if they're also saying this, the dead guy in this car is not the father of that kid.

00:22:53.739 --> 00:22:54.800
So it could be one way or the other.

00:22:54.800 --> 00:23:07.505
But the um dude with ptsd finds out his kid isn't his um and um, you know, has been to been to war, seen these things, you know now.

00:23:07.505 --> 00:23:15.234
So like kind of painting the picture of a person who is now, uh, you know, gone, insane.

00:23:15.234 --> 00:23:17.740
They've broken, they've cracked and I do think.

00:23:17.740 --> 00:23:19.723
And then they also talked about how he's been on.

00:23:19.723 --> 00:23:36.153
He was put on a lot of meds and a couple other things too, and so one all that could be true, and the dude snapped and you know, believes in anti-gravitational devices and then went and made a statement.

00:23:37.619 --> 00:23:58.160
Also, the media is good at painting the picture you want to see, good at painting the picture you want to see, and so everybody could easily write this guy off as just a kook guy who broke, and I don't really sit on one side or the other of what it might be but I just think it's all possible, I agree.

00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:02.670
I agree.

00:24:02.670 --> 00:24:03.270
And so we'll see.

00:24:08.740 --> 00:24:09.882
I err on the side of Occam's, razoram's razor.

00:24:09.882 --> 00:24:10.483
Do you know what that is?

00:24:10.483 --> 00:24:15.861
I say quite frequently to people and I think sometimes that just makes people think I'm just an asshole.

00:24:16.122 --> 00:24:21.152
Yeah, it's just like it's just a just a thing have you ever heard of occam's razor?

00:24:21.152 --> 00:24:23.625
I have okay, you know what it is.

00:24:23.625 --> 00:24:25.730
I do do, but I can't explain it.

00:24:25.730 --> 00:24:26.712
That's true, you know what I mean.

00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:28.626
I don't know why it's called the razor Right.

00:24:28.626 --> 00:24:33.730
I think it's the analogy of shaving and the idea of that.

00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:53.910
You know you could have literally just a sharp blade to shave with, or you could have 20 blades on a, you know, like a bendable head, and you know a lot of uh shaving cream and you know all that, that whole kit right.

00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:57.480
Um, now, that might just be a far side comment.

00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.634
I saw that was making fun of occam's razor right.

00:25:00.634 --> 00:25:00.935
Have you?

00:25:00.935 --> 00:25:02.981
Are you looking at the far side comment comic?

00:25:03.022 --> 00:25:03.663
no, I'm not.

00:25:03.663 --> 00:25:04.546
I was gonna look up the.

00:25:04.546 --> 00:25:07.292
Uh, what google says is the thing, but the.

00:25:07.353 --> 00:25:19.911
The idea is that the simplest solution is usually the right answer, right um and occam's or and, like a lot of people apply, like okay, not just solution, but the simplest explanation, the simplest reasoning and like I think that's.

00:25:19.911 --> 00:25:21.980
You know, we can look at the drones in new jersey.

00:25:21.980 --> 00:25:22.500
You ever?

00:25:22.701 --> 00:25:32.468
You watch much of those videos, yet yeah, it's like your smartphone, for one doesn't show you what you're actually seeing.

00:25:32.468 --> 00:25:37.111
Everybody's smartphone is actually enhancing the image you're seeing in the moment, so things can look crazy.

00:25:37.111 --> 00:25:39.413
It's a lot of airplanes in the area.

00:25:39.413 --> 00:25:42.214
It's airplanes and there's a lot of people with drones.

00:25:42.214 --> 00:25:45.376
For sure there's children with drones.

00:25:45.376 --> 00:25:46.758
Was this pre or post Christmas?

00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:50.423
This is leading up to.

00:25:50.443 --> 00:25:51.130
Christmas and some post Christmas.

00:25:51.130 --> 00:25:52.180
I was wondering if it was post Christmas.

00:25:52.180 --> 00:25:54.007
It's like, well, every kid just got a new drone.

00:25:54.007 --> 00:26:06.834
But either way, I mean I think I said this last time we talked about it I could strap a funny looking light to my little Mavic right now, and we could go outside and mess with the tweakers down the road.

00:26:08.682 --> 00:26:10.690
I think the big thing is I see so much footage.

00:26:10.690 --> 00:26:26.686
I'm like you know, literally people are like look at this, this drone is the size of a bus flying over our house and it's got lights in the shape of a V, like it looks like a bus because it's a low.

00:26:26.686 --> 00:26:37.796
It's a plane, low flying to go touchdown somewhere at like probably newark or something right, and it's just one of those things where I'm like what's the most simplest likely reasoning here?

00:26:37.796 --> 00:26:45.834
It's a plane, and it's just one of those things where, like, what's the most simplest likely reasoning for what this guy did?

00:26:45.834 --> 00:26:56.355
It's probably the same one as why the guy put an ISIS flag on the back of a picket truck and committed an act of terror and drove into a crowd of people and killed them.

00:26:56.355 --> 00:27:03.926
Unfortunately, it's a damaged person who is mentally unwell, and that's probably the most likely thing.

00:27:03.926 --> 00:27:08.980
Anyways, for sure.

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:10.846
Who is mentally unwell, and that's probably the most likely thing.

00:27:10.846 --> 00:27:11.268
Um, anyways for sure.

00:27:11.288 --> 00:27:30.488
Uh, there's also, though, on the to be honest and like just to give validity to counter arguments, there is the occam's razor fallacy, which is just the reasoning of oftentimes, the simplest solution is actually wrong, it's incorrect, it will not solve the problem, and the idea of like, how do you get across the grapple?

00:27:30.488 --> 00:27:32.010
Just like, build a bridge.

00:27:32.010 --> 00:27:33.661
Well, how complex is the bridge?

00:27:33.661 --> 00:27:34.462
What does it need to get?

00:27:34.462 --> 00:27:35.105
Like carried over?

00:27:35.105 --> 00:27:37.832
Right, you could if you want to get over the gap.

00:27:37.940 --> 00:27:53.051
Like, the simplest solution is likely a bridge of some form or going around, but the complexity of the tasks there and the different variables of how it can be done and depending on like what the gap is right.

00:27:53.051 --> 00:27:54.824
So like, yeah, could you lay a log over it?

00:27:54.824 --> 00:27:58.291
Maybe might be one of the things you got to get a car over it.

00:27:58.291 --> 00:27:59.465
Okay, so now you do.

00:27:59.465 --> 00:28:00.752
Now you need to lay a couple of.

00:28:00.752 --> 00:28:14.950
You know, I mean, it's one of those things where, like, it's just a fallacy because the simplest solution could still end up remain being like only a few degrees away from complexity of the next solution, the next solution, the next solution right yeah, and why do that?

00:28:15.852 --> 00:28:19.766
build a bridge when you have a anti-gravity propulsion?

00:28:20.508 --> 00:28:22.332
just it is anti-gravity over.

00:28:22.332 --> 00:28:27.148
Just just fly right over that anti-gravitic yeah that's another thing I heard gravitic.

00:28:27.148 --> 00:28:28.532
I'm like, is gravitic a word?

00:28:28.893 --> 00:28:38.945
yeah he's saying, yeah, it's like that's in the email, yeah, I know it's like, is that a like a denomination, like gravitic?

00:28:38.945 --> 00:28:42.800
Everything I see just says anti-gravity on everything else, anti-gravity propulsion.

00:28:42.820 --> 00:28:45.929
But of caused by or powered by gravity.

00:28:45.929 --> 00:28:49.665
All right, oxford just added that to the dictionary, just kidding.

00:28:51.932 --> 00:28:57.451
Yep, and on here it says Occam's razor is the idea.

00:28:57.451 --> 00:29:02.758
Is shaving away unnecessary assumptions when comparing two theories.

00:29:02.758 --> 00:29:05.728
Great, which would be all these other what ifs?

00:29:05.728 --> 00:29:13.115
And crazy things like all right, let's get rid of all that silliness and just be like, well, it probably happened, bro, but that's not as entertaining man.

00:29:13.155 --> 00:29:19.557
No, it's not but it's like all right, bro got a lot of tbis, had a kid thought it was his, it wasn't.

00:29:19.557 --> 00:29:25.782
He's had issues, struggled with moral dilemma of war for a long time, took his skills and use them a certain way, you know, or whatever.

00:29:25.782 --> 00:29:34.369
But yes, the occam's razor, the uh, the origin of things to me is interesting, dude, I love reading the origins to things uh-huh like.

00:29:34.369 --> 00:29:37.454
Here's one More like weird.

00:29:37.454 --> 00:29:39.938
This is also more like language play too.

00:29:39.938 --> 00:29:41.839
But pumpernickel bread.

00:29:42.401 --> 00:29:45.605
Oh, I hate this because you actually told me this like three years ago.

00:29:45.625 --> 00:29:46.226
Did I tell you this?

00:29:46.226 --> 00:29:48.017
I don't think I did, because I just learned it.

00:29:48.269 --> 00:29:51.099
I'm pretty sure you just told me this like a year ago.

00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:53.876
You just forgot since then.

00:29:53.978 --> 00:29:54.599
Oh my goodness.

00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.833
But I think it's hilarious because I'm like a sixth grader.

00:29:57.833 --> 00:29:58.934
But it's from.

00:29:58.934 --> 00:30:00.157
It's a germanic origin.

00:30:00.157 --> 00:30:09.579
The first word, pumper uh, means meaning to flatulate or flatulence, so fart, farting.

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:28.757
And the next part, nickel um, coming from uh nicholas, which, uh this is also interesting about Santa I was going to come back around to it in a second, but it's Nicholas in Germanic dialects was associated with demons or goblins, so pumpernickel bread is fart goblin bread.

00:30:28.757 --> 00:30:30.141
That's hilarious.

00:30:30.141 --> 00:30:35.942
It's a fart goblin because they're like when you eat this bread, you know you got a little fart goblin in you.

00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:37.214
The damn Germans.

00:30:37.214 --> 00:30:40.017
They must be stopped.

00:30:40.037 --> 00:30:41.271
Think about that Just over there.

00:30:41.291 --> 00:30:42.236
David stuff.

00:30:42.236 --> 00:30:43.199
They're like fart nickel.

00:30:43.199 --> 00:30:44.997
This is fart demon bread.

00:30:47.131 --> 00:30:52.115
And then maybe someone about old Santa Claus, old Saint Nick, saint Goblin.

00:30:53.571 --> 00:30:56.820
I don't think Saint Nicholas originates from Germany, though I guess that's true.

00:30:58.951 --> 00:31:00.654
I'm wondering, why does Nicholas you know?

00:31:00.654 --> 00:31:02.137
Why was that a?

00:31:02.137 --> 00:31:11.893
Maybe it's a different word, but referring to the name here, I'm just like I will say like with Santa, there's always like, also a dark side, like any like Santa stories or movies.

00:31:11.893 --> 00:31:15.638
There's always like this other piece of like you got the Krampus version.

00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.710
And these other, like you know, whatever these other things going on, Nicolas.

00:31:19.730 --> 00:31:21.972
Cage, demon, cage, yep.

00:31:21.972 --> 00:31:23.255
So watch out for that.

00:31:23.255 --> 00:31:24.236
Caged Goblin.

00:31:24.236 --> 00:31:26.378
Yeah, watch out for that, that, that fart goblin.

00:31:27.220 --> 00:31:27.740
I just like.

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:38.817
Uh, one thing I really like is seeing the origin of expressions, and Google used to do this thing where you could see like most search terms over time and stuff.

00:31:38.817 --> 00:31:40.642
You could see like when a word was first searched on google.

00:31:40.642 --> 00:31:43.736
I don't know if they still do it, but it used to be.

00:31:43.736 --> 00:31:45.684
It was pretty sick because you could see like google would be.

00:31:45.684 --> 00:31:52.202
Like the origin of this word appearing in google searches was the year 2007 and it's like before that.

00:31:52.202 --> 00:31:59.756
There's actually no in like indication of this word or phrase existing in the English language, and I just think that's pretty cool.

00:32:02.314 --> 00:32:16.594
Yeah, because they can track in real time when a word like that catches on and, like colloquialisms, different sayings like how'd that get back in the day, how'd that get all the way around?

00:32:16.653 --> 00:32:49.182
Usually it it'd be like something yeah like some something in the newspaper or whatever it's got to get by horse or buggy, and then that guy hears some guy say it take a pretty long time, you know, but um, it's kind of funny like you could have like a presidential slogan and like, by the time it gets to like a good amount of your constituents, you've already either won or lost the election the back, yeah, back then like, make america great again could take literally, you know, a year to travel across the us in the 1800s, yep.

00:32:49.763 --> 00:32:56.198
And then by the time it gets to the people who are like, all right, well, we'll cast our ballots and send our representative two weeks to washington.

00:32:56.198 --> 00:33:00.123
That guy likes like my wagon wheel broke.

00:33:00.123 --> 00:33:03.391
Yeah, we're not making it, you know.

00:33:03.391 --> 00:33:06.798
Oh, the president already was elected, you know, I mean no for sure.

00:33:08.141 --> 00:33:09.804
Oh, my goodness, the um.

00:33:09.804 --> 00:33:17.250
We'll see if anything else comes to play for this guy.

00:33:17.250 --> 00:33:19.196
I think honestly he's just going to leave the news cycle.

00:33:19.196 --> 00:33:23.240
It's going to just go away and we will see.

00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.109
But you brought up something.

00:33:25.109 --> 00:33:27.417
I haven't seen these headlines.

00:33:27.417 --> 00:33:34.269
The fire yeah, little things pop up about a fire in LA and I hadn't looked into it until we started talking Before we were recording.

00:33:34.912 --> 00:33:39.017
To live and die in LA Great movie with Willem Dafoe, by the way.

00:33:40.651 --> 00:33:41.654
I don't know if I haven't seen that one.

00:33:41.654 --> 00:33:43.099
I need to watch that one Old school.

00:33:43.250 --> 00:33:45.315
It's like Willem Dafoe and he looks like he's like 20.

00:33:45.635 --> 00:33:45.875
Oh yeah.

00:33:45.895 --> 00:33:46.297
Maybe 19.

00:33:46.297 --> 00:33:48.602
Platoon Dafoe, younger.

00:33:48.602 --> 00:33:59.060
Wow, like you, look at him in it.

00:33:59.060 --> 00:33:59.729
He was so hot bro.

00:33:59.729 --> 00:34:01.067
He was such a stud.

00:34:01.067 --> 00:34:04.059
I think he got smaller with age.

00:34:04.059 --> 00:34:09.074
He shrunk Cause he looks taller in like movies when he was a younger guy.

00:34:10.012 --> 00:34:15.697
Yes, he just shrunk down tiny, but the LA is on fire.

00:34:15.697 --> 00:34:17.675
Like these maps make it look like the uh la is on fire.

00:34:17.675 --> 00:34:20.110
Like these maps look like make it look like the whole thing's on fire.

00:34:20.110 --> 00:34:42.860
And I hadn't looked into that, um, and I just seen like little clips and stuff, but, um, I mean, pulling up these maps and looking here, I mean we're looking at the smoke from the fire and it's almost as long as the baja of like, like California, or of the Baja of Mexico coming down, like it is crazy, and all these images.

00:34:42.860 --> 00:34:54.715
It looks like doomsday, it looks like Armageddon, um, and when you zoom in on these fire maps, they're burning right on top of a lot of streets and looks like neighborhoods.

00:34:54.715 --> 00:35:04.940
Um, it's bad, dude, highway one is just shut down, the one which, like, oh my god, I've driven it's the it's post not post.

00:35:05.221 --> 00:35:34.500
It's apocalyptic for la right now because of the things that are coming out of this and on a normal good day, that highway is a car to car, bumper to bumper, hours and hours and hours long nightmare to get where you're going, um, and so the fact they have it just straight shut down for what looks like about just like 10 miles straight, but through this real main area where lots of people travel, it is.

00:35:35.481 --> 00:35:41.246
Well, the car, it's shut down and people abandoned their cars and left and ran away.

00:35:41.246 --> 00:35:54.539
Just started running away when the fire was getting closer and now the fire department sent me to bulldoze those cars off the road, which, I'll be honest, I was like, well, what is this guy dealing with this bulldozer for these cars?

00:35:54.539 --> 00:35:57.331
Like it's not a good bulldozer for these cars, like this is not a good bulldozer.

00:35:57.331 --> 00:35:59.099
He should get a like a skid steer.

00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:06.701
oh yeah and I was like, oh wait, they probably don't have like snow plow steers like you would see, to like actually plow a road, right?

00:36:06.940 --> 00:36:13.342
because like trains don't need them and trucks don't need them in california, you know what I mean.

00:36:13.342 --> 00:36:15.135
Like they just don't get stuff, so it's so.

00:36:15.135 --> 00:36:17.925
I was like, oh, I guess that is how you're probably going to have to move those cars.

00:36:17.925 --> 00:36:26.510
But it was pretty brutal, like some like 100, $200,000 cars, you can see are just like getting plowed away by this, uh, this dude.

00:36:26.510 --> 00:36:34.438
But it's also one of those things of like what are you gonna just claim your car was totaled?

00:36:34.438 --> 00:36:35.079
I don't know it's.

00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.525
It's weird to me, like I guess if you have insurance, it's not that big of a deal.

00:36:38.525 --> 00:36:41.918
I guess if you live in palisade california, maybe you're just freaking made of money.

00:36:41.918 --> 00:36:51.231
But dude, there is a billionaire there that they had on the phone, I think it was cnn or fox, someone had this billionaire who lives in palisade.

00:36:52.273 --> 00:36:54.057
uh, call in and he's like you.

00:36:54.057 --> 00:36:57.063
Like I'm about to tell you things that are going to blow your mind.

00:36:57.063 --> 00:37:24.318
All right, one, they've been saying for years in the city, over and over, requesting that the fire department of Los Angeles County make an effort to do fire preventative measures because of how out of control the dry brush and things like that are, and they've been saying like you need to do control burns because all of us can see like this is about to blow up.

00:37:24.318 --> 00:37:52.818
Instead, the fire department's budget was reduced by $18 million in 2024 and the new fire department chief her biggest initiative and goal was diversity and inclusion, and there's video after video of her talking about and like the department as a whole talking about, will be known globally as the most diverse fire department, the safest fire department for its employees safe meaning that's not having nothing to do with fires.

00:37:52.858 --> 00:37:54.965
Yeah, exactly and it's crazy man, it's.

00:37:54.965 --> 00:37:55.706
It's unreal man.

00:37:55.706 --> 00:37:55.927
It's.

00:37:55.927 --> 00:38:02.235
It's unreal Like what the kind of money and recruiting efforts went into versus like what it could have gone to and like doing the job.

00:38:02.235 --> 00:38:04.222
And I don't, I don't care.

00:38:04.222 --> 00:38:17.679
I don't care at all If my firefighter is they them and is married to a trans man.

00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:26.360
They just man that is pregnant with these baby, I don't care, I don't care if they have a whole freaking head of rainbow colors underneath their head.

00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:31.538
Like pick me up, yeah, Drag my ass out of the burning building.

00:38:31.557 --> 00:38:33.277
Yeah, we don't care what you, as long as you're yoked.

00:38:34.172 --> 00:38:38.668
As long as you're strong enough to freak it, as long as you can strong enough to frick it.

00:38:40.369 --> 00:38:52.489
As long as you can drag that hose, brother them, sister Zay, that's all I care about, dude, it's clear they're just not hiring honestly competent people.

00:38:52.489 --> 00:38:59.186
The mayor of LA guess where she is currently Florida, Ghana.

00:38:59.186 --> 00:39:03.612
She's on a vacation to Ghana and using it as like.

00:39:03.612 --> 00:39:04.032
Don't get me wrong.

00:39:04.032 --> 00:39:07.260
If she's got like family or whatever there, that's totally fine.

00:39:07.260 --> 00:39:07.822
You should be allowed.

00:39:07.822 --> 00:39:16.460
But she should be hauling her ass back here and I've heard that she's denying that she's coming back because she's on like a cultural.

00:39:16.460 --> 00:39:18.344
What is it?

00:39:18.344 --> 00:39:19.976
It was like a ethnic cultural.

00:39:19.976 --> 00:39:29.222
It was not a journey or anything like that, but she was like there on like, kind of like, kind of political image terms.

00:39:29.222 --> 00:39:30.652
Right, it's like, oh like.

00:39:30.672 --> 00:39:50.384
I'm here to better understand the ethnic culture and the impact of like what we have on stuff there's also rumor that the fire department of la the county gave a shitload of its stuff away, like actual hard material away, um, in assets to ukraine, like they, oh my gosh.

00:39:50.384 --> 00:39:51.144
And it's like what?

00:39:51.144 --> 00:39:54.293
What fires are over there, homie, that you got to put out?

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Yeah, don't get me wrong, there's bombs and stuff, but have you seen Ukraine?

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They're not facing a dry Kindle box.

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It's a swamp.

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The fires don't spread in Ukraine, really.

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And then, lastly, dude, this billionaire.

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These are all things this billionaire was talking about, and one of the last things he said is the fire department though he's thankful for them, who's out there trying to fight it?

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