The Mick & Pat Show - Dog Adventures, Dark Confessions, and Political Divides

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are you tapping your foot?

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do you hear that?

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yeah, I thought someone was like walking downstairs so I was about to go get him dude.

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Last night actually, I spooked myself.

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I was listening, I was watching, you know like I do every night just one minute youtube shorts of breaking bad um yeah, we like awful super, like deep fried contrast on them and awful music.

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It's just like why does this stimulate my brain?

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and the whole time you're thinking I should watch that show and you're like I'm not going to why am I watching a minute clip of the show with, like that's the music in the background?

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right and like it looks like someone dunked the, like actual video footage and like yeah, deep fryer yeah and it's just like.

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Their wrinkles are literally, like you know, boldened black lines on their faces and like but something about my brain is like no, this is a fever dream like this is what and it's almost like.

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It's like what it looks like in your mind's eye when you're imagining something, right?

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Um, but anyways, I was listening.

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I was watching one of those and I heard like this, like sound, and I was like what the fuck?

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And it literally sounded like someone had just pushed like my screen door in or something like that.

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Like it, like it was just like a thing where my brain was like, oh, that's someone pushing through the screen door, like because it's locked, and so I was like but how else did I get it?

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And I kind of sat up and billy jean was already asleep and I hear again like a, and I'm like what the?

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So I pull my headphones off and I'm looking around and I'm listening.

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I like got the drawer open to grab my gun and I'm you know, I'm in my skivvies.

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I'm like all right, like I do have a buddy who's about to get married and he's staying the night with me.

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He's been staying the night with me for the last couple of weeks because, you know, I want to honor his marriage and honor God and not be making sweet babies before marriage and living together.

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So he's living with me rather than the apartment they'll be in, and I was like I don't want to blow away my homie, I don't want JB to be splattered on the wall.

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But I knew he was already home and he was apparently in bed and he I can't imagine what to get up after going to bed and so I walked out and I hear nothing.

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I'm looking, I'm like I see everything's closed, like doorways from the upstairs.

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So I go back and I like wait a second.

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I like uh, rewind the video and it's just.

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And it's just.

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It was like the most perfect subtle surround sound that it just was out of key with like the rest of the track and scene.

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But it was legit like all in the in the track.

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But I mean it gave me spine chills, you know what I mean?

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oh yeah, it's one of those ones where you're like what the fuck?

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What was that?

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You know, like a dog, um so yeah, dude.

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I think like it should be illegal also in radio commercials.

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But police sirens, yeah, and or cars honking.

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Oh, is that something that gets you when you're driving around?

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Oh, yeah, I'm driving someone, like it's like a honk or like a vroom by and you're, like you like, about to swerve out of the way or something.

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Yeah, cause it.

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Every once in a while your old ears play a trick on you no, that's true, the police sirens, one gets me.

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But I've heard a couple people tell us no, I don't know if they tell you this, but I've had a couple people tell me that our ad break.

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Um oh, ours might get them well, it's the, it's the lighter, but it was at one point the car siren yeah, it had a little bit of like yeah and um, I don't know if that stays is still live on an episode or not, because I think all of them updated to the lighter, but I did have someone tell me once.

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They're like dude, the siren got me like you gotta change that.

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And I was like, am I saying something should be illegal that I have done.

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Exactly, bro, it's hypocrite, freaking hypocritical dude.

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Uh though, speaking of um, speaking of dogs I don't want to say hypocrites.

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But I'm getting a dog.

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You're getting a dog?

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Yeah, I gotta pick up my dog on monday oh dang dude, that's a big commitment yeah, no, she's, we've been.

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My wife's been wanting to get one for a while and she was looking at dogs.

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And we've looked at dogs for the last couple of years, oh yeah, or even a cat, right, and we didn't get one just because we were on a third floor apartment and I was like, dude, I'm not going to put a dog in an apartment.

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It's a rotten life for a dog.

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Yeah, apartment, it's a rotten life for a dog, yeah, and like have to walk it downstairs and walk it back up three, four times a day, um, and it was just one of those things.

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There wasn't much space and it wasn't like a great amount of space for a cat either.

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Like there's nowhere really to privately put the litter box and not have the smell be bad.

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Yeah, so now that we're in a house you know 2600 square feet we got like a garage and stuff and I'm like you know, even if you have a dog that doesn't do good inside, you can put it in your garage when you're gone with like food and things like that, and just make sure like anything it could like knock over and hurt itself with yeah just secured.

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um, you know, like I would plan on ever doing that, you know, but it's just like one of those things, like a lot of people, I think, make excuses why they can't get a dog, like, oh, I leave so much and stuff and I wouldn't want to leave him in the living room where he could just chew my couch up.

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I'm like you still have a good dog.

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If you can't put him outside, just put him in an environment where it's okay.

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If he behaves like a dog, he can't break anything.

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Anyways, all that said, I knew Billie Jean was really getting serious because she saw a dog one night when we were in bed and she started getting kind of teary eyed because it looked like a dog she had as a kid.

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I could tell there was a lot of emotional investment already starting to happen, and so I I was like, alright, like let's do some research, make a list of dogs we want to look at, cause you gotta, you gotta, apply for dogs.

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Um and uh, you have to like apply for dogs Like you apply for like a loan.

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Sorry, Like for like a.

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Did you go like a rescue or adoption?

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All options in Colorado now are like you have to go through like a shelter.

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You can't like go through a breeder anymore and uh, with that, like you have to apply to most shelters, like they have an application process of like 10 or so questions and you have to like answer like questions like uh, what would you what?

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What will happen to the dog if you adopt the animal and both you and your partner die?

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Yeah, who will get the dog if you get a divorce?

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Yeah, it's all questions like that.

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And the question is like what's your experience with pets?

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Please list it below.

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And it's like a table and it's like pet's name, age of pet alive or dead, age when it died, and it's just like breed.

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And it's like a table and it's like pet's name, age of pet alive or dead, age when it died, and it's just like breed.

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And it's like they want all the info and I'm like all right, like you know, I told billie jean, if you're serious, let's get a list of the dogs together that we'd look at, and then, um, let's start doing some applications.

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And she wasted no time and I was like, oh okay, all right, she's really serious and now she needs to know like I'm on board too, like I'm not just like trying to occupy her while I forget about it.

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Like once I see like she's very serious about it.

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I'm like, okay, right.

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So I told her I was like, let's get a dog bed, but rather than getting one, because she's such a good seamstress, I was like how about you sell us a dog bed, oh nice, and we'll save the money and we'll use the stuffing we have, because we have a ton of extra like polyfill stuffing and she's got a ton of fabric left over and she's like that's a great idea.

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So she did it in one day.

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Oh wow, it was a big, really nice.

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It's a dog bed that'd be like 80 bucks.

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You know what I mean.

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Nice Very well, like reinforced stitching and it's got like the quilting pattern in it you know of, like like little holes that like what's called.

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It's like pinned, oh yeah, you know, like like fancy cow cushions.

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Yeah, um and uh, I was just like all right, we're like we're doing this.

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So we went and saw a couple and the first one we saw we really liked, and then a couple of the other ones we saw, but they had like other, like they had somebody have real issues like not really good on the leash and like like I mean just not able to walk on a leash, like literally a dog that just like chaos, stressed, running around.

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You're not getting.

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Are you getting a puppy?

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You're getting a.

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No, we're not getting a puppy we looked at a couple puppies, just in case uh-huh.

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And then, dude, we found.

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We found sadie.

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Oh wow, now say he probably won't be her name but it's her name at the shelter that they just assigned right, but she's an Anatolian Shepherd, so she's like a.

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Turkish livestock guardian dog.

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Yeah, that's a pretty serious breed.

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She's like that and a Great Pyrenees mix, nice, which is also another livestock dog, and we were like we'll see, we read her stuff online.

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It was like she doesn't like to be home alone.

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She needs to be able to see out the windows.

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She has anxiety if the owner of the home's not around.

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Yeah, but it's like, she's very sweet, she's very gentle, she gets along with cats and dogs.

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She, you know, is very gentle around all people.

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No fierce skittishness around people.

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I was like, all right, let's see.

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So we meet up with this dude who's been looking after her and he it's like fostering.

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Yeah, fostering yes, and he's like we would adopt her, but we're retired and we're trying to travel more and she's really a dog who needs someone home quite a bit, um, to get her used to it and adjusted to the environment and okay with being left alone like you won't be able to leave her alone for a while, yeah, for like the first couple months or so, maybe, like you will want someone home with her for a while, or not like alone for very long.

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I was like okay, cool.

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But I was like asking about.

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I was like what's this behavior, you know?

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He's like well, not in my house since I've been fostering her, but in the previous one I don't think they had a lot of time to like kind of help her get acclimated and she like knocked down blinds trying to look out windows it's a big dog she's like 85 pounds yeah yeah if you saw her, though, she looks just like a.

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I mean she's big, but she's not like you know, we're not talking like a.

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What's the word Not Doberman, great Dane, right?

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No, no, no, not that big, but still like Not a small dog, I think she'd.

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Fuck a Great Dane up though.

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Oh yeah, like it's great Cause we were at.

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When we were at the shelter she wasn't there.

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She was being fostered, of course, but then when they like, so she wasn't having to stay there.

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And when we met them up at the shelter and we were walking around with her, there was all these other dogs, these like pit bulls and all these dogs, just you know, like losing their mind.

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But I would do to Sadie She'd like walk right up to like, not even like perk up to like, not even like perk up friend or anything.

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She would walk over to the cage and just look at him, just like kind of sniff around while they're like losing their mind, like feral fangs out bro.

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She showed no aggression and would just like walk away.

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And uh, the guy he was like yeah, so see how she doesn't care.

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He's like if she cares, you'll know like.

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And he's like I've seen it once where she rolls back her front shoulders and, rather than like a pity, where it goes in like from like you know, the feet going in, her feet roll out and the chest comes out and the like ears her ears is so floppy and hanging but her ears roll back and face forward and her eyes go wide and, uh she, they're like, he's like, that's like.

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If they think like it's, this is wolf mode you know what I mean and I'm like, oh sick, it's a, it's a kind of all or nothing.

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Yeah, that's cool thing about those shepherd dogs.

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Uh, you know, I've been around pyrenees before.

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I had a bernie's mountain dog that's partial pyrenees and then also I've been in the mountains before and ran into, uh, mountains and ranch lands, farmlands, running into paronies, dogs and like shepherds and they are super relaxed until it's time to not be relaxed yeah until like it's like legit, like you've you've demonstrated that, like you could be a threat and that's why I think they're great like family dogs and like if you want a dog, that oh yeah, so she's got she's got like the sad floppy ear

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face, but like she's so cute, um, and he showed me a picture, these aren't one of those but like when she's on mode, when she's at like what is that?

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And she's on like kind of patrol guard mode, she looks.

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She looks like the thing, you know, she looks like the thing.

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You know she looks like the classic depiction Turns on.

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Yeah, keep going.

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Sorry, I just wanted to show you those pictures.

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Yeah, for sure, because around a family, things like that, if you want a dog, that's going to kind of like be defensive of your family but you don't want to have to, you know, train a Malinois or a German Shepherd or whatever like to be like you know and really like have it reined in, like the cool thing about other Shepherds is like they really don't care, but they really can have a really good instinct, like for when it really is time to be serious about something.

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Yeah, and like I also, I've been doing a lot of research into this breed because I knew we were looking at her and we were.

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We had looked at another one already and, um, there's not.

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They need a job because they're high energy in the brain, Like their brain is wired to patrol and keep track of and secure, but like they're not like other shepherding dogs or uh, herd dogs Like, so she, they don't shepherd and herd in like the nipping going for the ankles or the barking like they don't bark to direct the herd um, you know, they like.

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If you ever see videos of anatolian shepherds or great pyrenees, this is for people who don't know what we're talking about.

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if you look it up, you often find them and they look like they are like almost hiding and blending in with the sheep you know, know what I mean, and like they literally blend in so well that they just kind of go with their herd or the flock where it travels.

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And then if danger arrives, because danger thinks, oh, that's a bunch of sheep, I can do whatever I want, then they come out.

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And you see them come out of the flock.

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Like you're like, oh shit, like those aren't sheep, like they're watching me and they're big yeah, cause they're really not herd dog, they're not herding dogs, they're shepherding dogs.

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So they like exactly they're.

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they're not out there.

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You know like, have you seen the movie babe?

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Yeah, you know like.

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Out there, you know.

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yeah, like you said, nipping and corralling, they're like they're just more out there, they're just chilling on the hillside, yeah and I in like, even though, like some other shepherding dogs like german shepherds, I think are pretty high energy and pretty vocal like german shepherds like bark to sound, alarm or communicate, like they really do talk to their owners and stuff, and the and like the malinois uh, sorry, not the malinois the great pyrenees and the anatolian shepherds.

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From what I've just been reading online and other people who had them, and from what I hear from the people who've been fostering sadie, it's more like a like, you know, like that most she's spoken, or I said anything is just like a oh, you know, to let people know.

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Like hey, I think someone's at the door and she'll go and stand at the window and stand at the door and hoof at it until you come by and like.

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But once you come by and stand next to her and acknowledge like she's, she's there, she chills out, but she legit like needs.

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It's like if you don't come to the door, she just stays there waiting for you to come and kind of relieve her of duty, which I, I really like that kind of concept of right and like that she's not going to need like a ton of super high energy like um, you know a lot of high energy like fetch play, but like what?

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Like everyone says online is like you just need to take them on.

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Like the same walk three times a day, like give them the same one mile, two mile circuit like two or three times a day so that way and they can get the brain like observation stuff out of their head.

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And she was great on a leash, bro, like she's a big dog and even though I wasn't like who she's used to walking her, that guy took off ahead of us and I had the leash and she never pulled.

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She went at my pace and if I stopped she stopped.

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If she stopped to smell something and I whistled or said her name, she was like all right, we're going on.

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And so it's like it's really cool to see like she's already got like really good instinctual kind of uh behavior for like what makes a good dog a good dog.

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And I'm also just excited to work with her on the other stuff.

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Like apparently she's like just one a big weenie, like when it comes to sleeping alone.

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Like she just wants to sleep in.

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She doesn't want to sleep in the bed with you, to be in the room, she just wants to be in the room but she doesn't want to.

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She doesn't like being in like a human bed.

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And then the other thing is she's just scared of stairs, oh yeah, which I kind of like.

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The idea of working with her to get over it, Like that's just like a cool bonding thing.

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I think that you get to do with the dog, Cause you know a lot of people don't realize it but like puppies are terrified of stairs.

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They just get over it at a young age from learning it yeah, from learning it and, like a lot of dogs, if they don't, if they're not raised around stairs, stairs are weird and scary yeah, so I'm kind of looking forward to that stuff.

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But we're really excited.

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Uh, we bought all the food bowls and a leash and collar already and we'll take her to pick out a toy and we're gonna get the food samples right to figure out which one is best for her.

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But anyways, yeah.

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I think I have a couple names.

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I was all someone's going to be like this is baloney.

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Someone's going to.

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Sadie's a name for a cat.

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Sadie's a name for a cat or a woman.

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Like you know or cat woman, but I want like a.

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I want a strong consonant name oh yeah and I also really like a lot of uh, like, um, the, the enunciation and uh, consonant sounding of like a lot of native and native american words.

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Oh, nice and um.

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I'm also apparently like a 16th or whatever, or an eighth, I can't remember, but like I, I know, like, like a little less, because then you get free college well, I think I could have gotten free college.

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Oh wow, according to, like, my mom and uncles and stuff and my own, my actual grandpa uh, there's just like no like genealogy record of it right now, right, which is why I kind of want to do the 23andMe Right.

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I like this one called.

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I'll get a double check, but I'm pretty sure it's Takani.

00:18:54.145 --> 00:18:55.190
Oh yeah.

00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:11.106
Takani is just like two, very like significant, distinguished sounding consonants, but it has a soft ending and that soft ending I think is like feminine and so it's a good name for a female dog.

00:19:11.106 --> 00:19:24.307
But takani, I think, is like a very clear consonant sound amongst the other names of like bob and fred and bubba, and duke you know, I mean names that end in an I sound, for dogs are good.

00:19:24.788 --> 00:19:25.170
Why is that?

00:19:25.170 --> 00:19:32.580
They just kind of like you can say it with a little bit of that playful and inflection at the end, and they like it and they come to you for it.

00:19:32.580 --> 00:19:34.842
Yeah, what's it mean, though?

00:19:35.786 --> 00:19:44.580
I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly, it is one of the northern Inuit tribes, word for bear, but I have to double check that one.

00:19:44.580 --> 00:20:10.925
I wasn't trying to go off of meaning as much because I didn't want it to be like I don't know, I don't believe in it, like a lot of like your dog's name needs to have, like a significant meaning, like I do like the name Dakota Dakota for a male dog, because Dakota means friends with, with everybody, and that's like a good I mean takota is a good, you know, friendly dog name.

00:20:12.209 --> 00:20:14.933
Um, here's on a brief word search.

00:20:14.933 --> 00:20:20.184
Yeah, um, now, anatolia hails from now, the modern day turkey.

00:20:20.184 --> 00:20:26.363
Yep, now, turkish people don't like to necessarily be like lumped in with everybody else going to be their thing.

00:20:26.363 --> 00:20:47.463
But to Connie is a Persian word which Turkey, being a lot closer to Persian areas and having you know this Semitic language background, means shaking the house, which that's kind of fitting for, like a big ass dog, exactly.

00:20:47.483 --> 00:20:50.191
It's kind of cool, she's shaking the house when she puts in that wolf mode dude.

00:20:50.211 --> 00:21:02.963
Uh, I guess, I guess takani is also, uh, some native american tribal word for wolf, that's the other thing is, like a lot of native american tribes, it's the eskimo word for wolf.

00:21:02.963 --> 00:21:19.029
Um, there's a a lot of overlapping words because you know they're like the tribes had a lot of blending of different languages, right, and like you could have people quote unquote underneath the um, like uh, what was it?

00:21:19.029 --> 00:21:21.634
Um apache tribe?

00:21:21.634 --> 00:21:28.365
But like there's different kind of more smaller tribes underneath the term apache tribe, right, so like there's different kind of more smaller tribes underneath the term apache tribe, right.

00:21:28.365 --> 00:21:40.625
So like there's a couple words I looked up that was like like the most common pet name for a dog from like the apache tribe was one that just literally translated like directly to shit pet.

00:21:41.365 --> 00:22:03.464
Yeah, because it literally, like in apache, meant like this is the animal that eats its own shit and I was like that's hilarious, like, but, um, you know there, but there's other ones like, uh, algonquin and iroquois and all that like have different cool names, but um, anyways, yeah, so I do like that that's cool, it's kind of cool but of cool.

00:22:03.464 --> 00:22:08.974
But my wife hit me with one that I'm having a hard time saying now too.

00:22:08.974 --> 00:22:14.672
She said what about the name Desi, like from East of Eden?

00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:16.503
I'm like damn.

00:22:16.503 --> 00:22:18.170
Like right in the feels.

00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.911
Like even though Desi is not as much of that strong consonant sound.

00:22:22.911 --> 00:22:26.087
Desi was a phenomenal girl.

00:22:26.087 --> 00:22:27.465
She's probably the best girl.

00:22:27.465 --> 00:22:31.465
I'm just like Ed there's like.

00:22:31.465 --> 00:22:37.708
That book has a lot of significance to me, so it's kind of hard to not think of that being as a decent name not a bad name.

00:22:38.281 --> 00:22:46.423
Not a bad name got that eye inflection in there too, I'm telling you people like that, people like the eye on the end of the dog names, for some reason like.

00:22:46.663 --> 00:22:51.733
Dookie, yeah, exactly uh, are you so are you?

00:22:51.733 --> 00:22:54.266
You've never owned a dog since I've known you?

00:22:54.266 --> 00:22:55.288
Yeah, I haven't.

00:22:55.288 --> 00:22:57.032
I don't know if you're a dog person.

00:22:57.073 --> 00:22:59.965
I haven't owned a dog in my uh, adult life.

00:22:59.965 --> 00:23:02.932
I guess you could say I've never personally owned a dog.

00:23:02.932 --> 00:23:05.989
We had family dogs growing up, yeah.

00:23:06.509 --> 00:23:07.862
Me too, like I never had a dog.

00:23:07.862 --> 00:23:13.722
That was supposed to be like this is your dog and if you don't take care of it, it goes away.

00:23:13.722 --> 00:23:16.490
Yeah, I had dogs.

00:23:16.490 --> 00:23:28.121
I was the primary caretaker responsible for you know, like family, just like my mom would buy the food, but like I fed the dog, I walked the dog, I walked the dog, I clean up the dog's poop, right, you know.

00:23:28.121 --> 00:23:33.232
But it was never like this is my first dog in my adult life too.

00:23:33.232 --> 00:23:35.586
Like where I'm full party responsible for it.

00:23:37.090 --> 00:23:37.250
Yeah.

00:23:37.250 --> 00:23:40.431
So for me, I have aspirations.

00:23:40.431 --> 00:23:44.391
I want to own like five dogs at one time, really yeah.

00:23:44.391 --> 00:23:45.443
But I also kind of don't.

00:23:45.443 --> 00:23:46.347
Here's the problem.

00:23:46.347 --> 00:23:54.070
Kind of like how I want to be a fake cowboy, like I want to own a ranch that some other guy manages for me.

00:23:54.070 --> 00:23:56.288
And when I show up, I want to own a ranch.

00:23:56.380 --> 00:23:57.736
I just don't want to do anything to the farming.

00:23:57.776 --> 00:24:15.281
Exactly, and when I come in on my helicopter I come out in my clean boots and he has my horse saddled and then I I swing my leg over and I ride the horse like like 30 yards to the barn and then like yeah, and then like wait for him to catch up.

00:24:15.281 --> 00:24:19.361
Then I hand him the reins and I swing my leg back over and he like takes the saddle off.

00:24:19.361 --> 00:24:24.868
Yeah, and not that's what I really want, but I when I do a true evaluation of myself.

00:24:24.929 --> 00:24:33.652
I'm like in my mind if I want to be a rancher, you really want to wake up at 2 am every day and go chuck hay.

00:24:33.652 --> 00:24:39.832
I don't know if I have the old stones to get that.

00:24:39.832 --> 00:24:40.593
You know what I mean.

00:24:40.593 --> 00:24:53.984
So anyway, similarly with saying I want four or five dogs, I don't know if that's what I really want or not.

00:24:53.984 --> 00:24:55.807
But um, the a couple pieces to not owning a dog yet is um has been like.

00:24:55.807 --> 00:25:03.666
I have had some like my leases in my houses have been like no dogs like no pet, like situations and something okay, okay.

00:25:03.707 --> 00:25:14.990
And then it got to the point now where, like, where I am now does have the no pet thing, but I could probably like at this point, how long I've been in my house, I could like get my landlords to agree to us having that.

00:25:14.990 --> 00:25:18.248
But then we also like, brought kids into the mix.

00:25:18.648 --> 00:25:37.345
Yeah, like every couple of years, we bring kids into the mix and so, like three kids, it has always been like, okay, honestly, how busy I'm at work, it's going to be the wife's duty to like during the day, have to also manage this thing, and so, like, that's been a piece of it.

00:25:37.345 --> 00:25:40.826
Old Mace Windu not a huge animal person.

00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:49.891
So, she's not like I heard Mace Windu I think it was from you that Mace windu is not the biggest fan of dogs, no, or just animals, just animals like in general.

00:25:50.030 --> 00:25:55.349
that's why like like I've been looking at, like properties where I could put my office.

00:25:55.349 --> 00:26:07.315
Yeah, that also has like pastures and stalls, so then I can have like I keep my dogs and my horses and my cows there at my office.

00:26:07.315 --> 00:26:15.269
I can work where I go every day, but then my wife doesn't have to deal with them ever, and that would be an ideal situation.

00:26:17.441 --> 00:26:21.230
What if that was just a thousand feet from your house?

00:26:21.530 --> 00:26:24.569
I know that would be the most ideal situation For me, yeah for sure, and she wouldn't have to interact with them.

00:26:24.569 --> 00:26:25.125
She wouldn the most ideal situation for?

00:26:25.125 --> 00:26:27.053
Yeah for me, yeah for sure, and she wouldn't have to enter.

00:26:27.053 --> 00:26:29.195
She would have to deal with them like right and for sure.

00:26:29.195 --> 00:26:34.630
So there's all those things, but, um, I'm gonna own a dog someday.

00:26:34.630 --> 00:26:40.665
I should have bought one years ago specifically for the purposes of hunting.

00:26:40.665 --> 00:26:46.374
I really, really, really want to, um, have good hunting dog me too.

00:26:46.453 --> 00:26:48.761
I that was the number one thing I wanted.

00:26:48.761 --> 00:26:59.869
And then I was like well, I should probably go hunting before you before I get a hunting dog, but like so that was but like.

00:26:59.869 --> 00:27:01.601
So that's why I'm like I'll take this because I could.

00:27:01.601 --> 00:27:10.174
I could honestly see myself bringing sadie and she just wouldn't like I don't think she'd be, she would never, I think, really be a retriever dog.

00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:20.652
She'd kind of be along for the ride but she'd be along for the ride and she would, I think, let me know far better when something was nearby than I could on my own yeah, for sure.

00:27:21.272 --> 00:27:28.409
And so, like, I think, like also the having a owning a dog is one thing and then owning a good hunting dog is a whole other level of like.

00:27:28.409 --> 00:27:33.553
It has to be a part of your lifestyle that you train and pour into the animal.

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:41.009
And so while I have the fantasy of owning a great hunting dog, that means also to be in a position to really own that.

00:27:41.009 --> 00:27:47.300
But someday I will own a great hunting dog, and then also for my three kids.

00:27:47.300 --> 00:27:47.842
Here's like.

00:27:47.842 --> 00:27:52.352
So, when I said five dogs, it'd be four dogs and, um, one for each kid.

00:27:52.352 --> 00:27:54.803
Exactly me, exactly so I would have.

00:27:54.803 --> 00:27:59.711
I want a bernie's mountain dog and a full blood pair of knees.

00:27:59.711 --> 00:28:04.449
And then, uh, oh my goodness, the the breeds escaping me.

00:28:04.449 --> 00:28:05.832
It's very similar in the same way.

00:28:05.832 --> 00:28:06.781
It's a.

00:28:06.781 --> 00:28:09.269
It's a bed mastiff.

00:28:09.269 --> 00:28:12.948
No, not the mastiff, it's, oh, my goodness.

00:28:12.948 --> 00:28:16.811
Anyways, I'll remember it someday, sure.

00:28:16.811 --> 00:28:17.557
When it's time to buy it.

00:28:17.557 --> 00:28:17.920
Yeah.

00:28:17.980 --> 00:28:27.840
But basically they're these giant, fluffy shepherd dogs, kind of lazy, like to hang out and just be around, take massive poops.

00:28:27.840 --> 00:28:29.003
So you gotta have a big yard, don't all three of those?

00:28:29.003 --> 00:28:35.348
But then I'm gonna have my, my lab, my hunting dog, and the three big dogs gonna get to do whatever they want.

00:28:35.348 --> 00:28:38.728
They're gonna get to like have the rule of the roost.

00:28:38.728 --> 00:28:40.673
They can even come inside sometimes.

00:28:41.617 --> 00:28:45.446
Um, that's the other thing too is like I'm not a huge like inside dog fan.

00:28:45.446 --> 00:28:48.373
Like I think, like it's like a.

00:28:48.373 --> 00:28:53.654
They can be in the kitchen and like the living room, but they don't go like down the basement or like up in the bedrooms.

00:28:53.654 --> 00:29:22.229
It's kind of like you know, they know where they're allowed to be, but in the hunting dog he knows like his only job is to sit next to me and sit next to me, and when he's not doing that, he like lives in the garage and he has a doggy door and he can go outside and come back in, but like and he is literally like a servant at my will and and it fulfills his and it fulfills his and he fulfills every like biological thing, like desire in his brain, right exactly that too.

00:29:22.249 --> 00:29:24.041
So like, like, because this is what he's made for.

00:29:24.041 --> 00:29:39.171
So when we like, when and if you've ever been around a good duck dog, oh yeah, when you pull the gun out of the case, they freak out, they're like they're like they're howling, they're like spinning in circles and like they like run out and just sit in the truck.

00:29:39.171 --> 00:29:44.193
And they're just like sitting in the truck wanting to go get ducks, like yeah and so it's like it's.

00:29:44.976 --> 00:29:57.982
I mean a lot of people don't get it, but like the um, the, the work genetic ingrained in some of these dogs is stronger than the desire to reproduce.

00:29:57.982 --> 00:30:12.105
Like, think about you as a dude and how powerful it's been in your brain to you know, make coitus, imagine like you want to do something else more than that.

00:30:12.105 --> 00:30:14.688
You know it's like, it's just like that.

00:30:14.688 --> 00:30:16.009
I think that's crazy to me.

00:30:16.009 --> 00:30:17.070
You know what I mean.

00:30:17.070 --> 00:30:19.594
Like I don't know if that, I guess I'll say this.

00:30:19.594 --> 00:30:20.294
I don't know if that's true.

00:30:20.294 --> 00:30:21.194
That's what I read from.

00:30:21.194 --> 00:30:41.891
Like some dog science expert about that was studying dog brains and dopamine and dog brains, highland Collie and all those like other herding dogs.

00:30:41.891 --> 00:30:46.907
Like they live to go out and chase sheep and like that is more powerful in their brain than anything else, which is why, like they will often die doing it.

00:30:46.907 --> 00:30:49.974
Like like they'll just like when they get old.

00:30:49.974 --> 00:30:53.048
A lot of times they go out and they just don't come back one day.

00:30:53.469 --> 00:31:07.625
Yeah, because they just like they die out there in the, in the field with the flock doing what they love and it's stronger than anything else in their brain and like that's excellent, that's cool, like I want and like, if that's the way the dog is, I want to give it that life.

00:31:07.625 --> 00:31:08.909
You know what I mean.

00:31:08.909 --> 00:31:09.369
I don't want to.

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:11.835
I don't want to force a dog to.

00:31:11.835 --> 00:31:24.648
You know, like with sadie, I'm not gonna squirt sadie with the water bottle every time she runs to the door and, you know, stands there until I come, stand next to her, like sure, will that be inconvenient?

00:31:24.648 --> 00:31:42.211
Yes, but that's also like her and her mind thinking hey, there is something out there, right, and I need, I need to stand guard until master comes to, let me know he's aware of it and we can go back to what we were doing right and like it's.

00:31:42.733 --> 00:31:49.365
It'd be different if she would go there and scratch at the door and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark and bark forever.

00:31:49.365 --> 00:31:51.730
You know, like that's a thing that you want to curb that behavior.

00:31:51.730 --> 00:32:03.380
But if, if it's just simply like the dog doing his brain thing of like what it really is bred to be, like, that's almost like something you kind of want to reinforce because that's going to give it a good, happy life.

00:32:03.765 --> 00:32:05.030
Yeah for sure.

00:32:05.030 --> 00:32:07.368
The other third.

00:32:07.368 --> 00:32:11.345
The third one I wanted is it's a Newfoundland which is also like just big old fluffy.

00:32:11.486 --> 00:32:12.691
So, yeah, these, these, I do.

00:32:12.691 --> 00:32:15.498
I want these three big fluffy dogs, one for each of my kids, I do.

00:32:15.498 --> 00:32:16.984
I want these three big fluffy dogs, one for each of my kids.

00:32:16.984 --> 00:32:20.375
And then I want my lab and his names.

00:32:20.375 --> 00:32:36.790
I'm going just full Duke, something along those lines, where it's just like, oh really, remington, ranger, sage, whatever, I don't care, but we're going somewhere in there In that realm of thinking Someday I'll have a dog.

00:32:37.628 --> 00:32:43.000
The two big hang ups there's three big hang-ups would be this I need some more like.

00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:48.193
I feel like I need a little more like land or property if I'm gonna do the, if I'm going for the four dogs.

00:32:48.193 --> 00:32:50.826
Well, yeah, no kidding, I need some more space.

00:32:50.826 --> 00:32:55.534
Um, and then also, I do need um time, more time.

00:32:55.534 --> 00:32:59.279
I need to like commit to, like, you know, taking care of that animal.

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:10.817
And then also got to get my wife on board and I think, like now that we're kind of like we're getting done having kids as they become, less babies and less toddlers.

00:33:10.817 --> 00:33:12.681
It's going to be good.

00:33:12.681 --> 00:33:25.230
But also, dude, like I got to get a dog stat, because my kids are wusses around dogs, like really we're like my, like, really all my friends who have um kids, who own dogs, like they're totally fine.

00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:28.306
But my kids, like you know, a big dog comes out and they're, like you know, shaking.

00:33:28.306 --> 00:33:48.571
They start crying if it gets up and licks their face, you know, and like really and it's understandable that if your first interaction like when you're not used to it, when if something that literally to us came in here that was 12 feet tall, yeah, and licked your face you'd be like, bro, you'd be like you'd be like I'm lunch, this is not good like.

00:33:48.571 --> 00:33:52.409
Yeah, exactly, it's like little freaking grizzly bear my little my little buddy.

00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:54.694
He's like you know, my little two-year-old, I mean.

00:33:54.694 --> 00:33:56.989
He just is like unhinged when a dog comes by, but he loves animals like he loves dogs from like 10 feet away.

00:33:56.989 --> 00:33:59.791
He's like you know, my little two-year-old, I mean, he just is like unhinged when a dog comes by, but he loves animals like he loves dogs.

00:33:59.791 --> 00:34:02.096
From like 10 feet away he's like enthralled.

00:34:02.096 --> 00:34:09.070
And then once it comes and licks his face or like its tail, like brushes its head, he like turns at me and he's like daddy, they got trying to get me.

00:34:09.070 --> 00:34:14.331
It's like freaking out and like, okay, we got to get these kids some animals or they're gonna be totally wusses around animals.

00:34:14.873 --> 00:34:16.056
Yeah, no, that's a good point.

00:34:16.056 --> 00:34:29.579
There is definitely pictures of me as a kid growing up not happy that I'm being made to pose with a dog, but I never can recall ever being afraid of a nonviolent dog.

00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:35.710
Yeah, I don't have any distinct memory of a dog messing me up or scaring me as a kid.

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:39.313
I do have a very distinct memory of my a dog messing me up or scaring me as a kid.

00:34:39.313 --> 00:34:40.494
I do have a very distinct memory of my dog jake.

00:34:40.494 --> 00:34:42.519
Uh, he was border collie, my first dog.

00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:54.536
I remember him being very protective over me when someone else's dog got off their leash and charged at me I remember him fucking that dog up, dude yeah, he meant like he just he put that dog in the gutter and just held it down.

00:34:55.186 --> 00:35:14.751
It's dude and I remember like going over the remember going over there and trying to pull him off and it was like that dog knew I was scared and trying to make it stop and it also knew that if it did stop I would get bit by the other dog, right, because that other owner hadn't caught up to it yet.

00:35:14.751 --> 00:35:25.090
It was weird that to have a dog that was smarter than me at that age it was like you know, second grade and stuff, and it was just like I just remember being like in my eyes.

00:35:25.090 --> 00:35:29.268
I was like this is my hero and dude, freaking, wept when we put it down.

00:35:29.268 --> 00:35:30.853
I went in, said goodbye to him.

00:35:30.853 --> 00:35:41.585
That dog was my best friend for sure for like a couple years of my life yeah, we get close to our dogs, man and oh yeah, it's cool, especially when you see them do something like that well, yeah, and that's, that's the thing.

00:35:41.606 --> 00:35:42.769
Like I bet, like was he?

00:35:42.769 --> 00:35:44.675
Was he a violent dog?

00:35:44.896 --> 00:35:49.309
never no, but like I mean he right he, he went after stuff like he got a couple squirrels.

00:35:49.309 --> 00:35:54.429
Right like he never been a person, people and stuff, never all of a sudden like when there was a real threat coming at you.

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:56.672
It just that that instinct snapped in.

00:35:56.672 --> 00:36:07.344
And that's what I love about and why I think I want a good hunting dog so bad is like, and also the breeds I like of these shepherd dogs I was talking about, because their instincts and their protection are awesome.

00:36:07.344 --> 00:36:12.918
Like the dog you're getting is like a dog that's been bred to do a particular thing.

00:36:12.918 --> 00:36:18.565
When you watch them do that thing and their instincts kick in particular thing.

00:36:18.565 --> 00:36:35.992
When you watch them do that thing and their instincts kick in, it is just the most incredible and, uh, fascinating thing to me when you see a dog doing that stuff yeah, yeah, I'm really excited, um, maybe I'm sure she'll be good around kids and all that stuff and maybe we can like go to a park or something and your uh mini pats and mini mace windu.

00:36:36.012 --> 00:36:39.284
Can you know get go to a park or something and your uh mini pets and mini mace windu.

00:36:39.284 --> 00:36:42.532
Can you know get accustomed to a big dog?

00:36:42.532 --> 00:37:01.429
That is like because, I'm pretty sure she's just gonna have the same mild behavior like a you know a retriever does, where, like people, just like kids, just are patting and brushing her and she's just like okay, like whatever you know sure um, but all that said um well, we were go for it.

00:37:01.449 --> 00:37:25.710
I was before we get to the next thing, because, uh, as the holidays approach, we've been playing a game with the, with the box of beer oh yeah we haven't had a beer this whole time, and so I thought your whistle might be getting wet and well it needs to be wet, and if this is your first time tuning in, uh well, there's a beer that we we really don't like to drink called the holiday ale, and we got a multi-pack here is it still?

00:37:25.731 --> 00:37:26.572
just one thumb down.

00:37:26.572 --> 00:37:29.806
You know it's I'll.

00:37:29.806 --> 00:37:39.268
I'll give it two down, okay, because since then the only thing we've had worse is like the, the, the nightmare fuel, or whatever it's called I don't even think that was worse.

00:37:39.268 --> 00:37:42.784
I don't know, dude, that that battery acid was bad I did it.

00:37:42.884 --> 00:37:44.628
I don't think it was worse, I think it was.

00:37:44.628 --> 00:37:53.594
I think we gave that one, like each one thumb down I know we got that one too I know we didn't give it four thumbs down anyways, here's the deal.

00:37:54.175 --> 00:37:55.418
uh, mick's got a grab.

00:37:55.418 --> 00:37:57.246
He's grab bagging a mystery beer.

00:37:57.246 --> 00:37:58.648
Here we go, he's reaching in.

00:37:58.648 --> 00:38:00.231
Oh, I just knocked something over.

00:38:00.231 --> 00:38:01.092
Here we go, he's pulling in.

00:38:01.092 --> 00:38:03.894
There, there's a risk of getting the nasty one.

00:38:04.155 --> 00:38:05.536
Oh, another tripel.

00:38:05.536 --> 00:38:06.277
Yes, he's safe.

00:38:06.518 --> 00:38:07.460
All right, nice work.

00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:08.119
All right you drawing.

00:38:08.139 --> 00:38:08.860
All right, I'll draw.

00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:20.373
I gonna reach in there and see what I find because, uh, like we said, the holidays are approaching.

00:38:20.373 --> 00:38:22.360
We gotta share the holiday cheer and the holiday ale is.

00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:32.077
Oh, I'm safe voodoo ranger we're clean, we're clean it's so gross, dude, I can't believe it's so gross it's.

00:38:32.077 --> 00:38:42.956
It's hard for me to wrap my brain around like people drinking that and like the taste, testing, you know, trials, and being like, yeah, no, that's uh, send that out, you know.

00:38:42.996 --> 00:38:57.193
I mean it's pretty wild for sure, oh man it tastes like fermented snickerdoodle dough, you know, I mean like apple cider spilt on snickerdoodle and fermented.

00:38:57.193 --> 00:38:58.135
It doesn't taste like beer.

00:38:58.135 --> 00:39:02.692
Yeah, it tastes like the stuff you pour off of the top of a beer.

00:39:02.692 --> 00:39:09.945
Um, anyways, uh, pat sir, I'm reading a horror story.

00:39:09.945 --> 00:39:13.153
Oh man, I'm reading it in braille in.

00:39:14.117 --> 00:39:15.721
Wow yeah, I didn't know you were.

00:39:16.181 --> 00:39:21.074
You were such a renaissance man yeah, something bad is going to happen.

00:39:21.074 --> 00:39:31.518
I, I can just feel it that's funny, classic that's a dad joke, you're about.

00:39:31.538 --> 00:39:33.105
You're about ready to have a kid, I know right.

00:39:33.164 --> 00:39:41.500
Okay, I'm about to get a dog, so I I need to get some kind of training and practice on how to lighten the levity of something not so serious.

00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:52.864
Yeah, I just figured that would be a good transition there, because I actually have two horror stories here, two real-life horror stories.

00:39:52.864 --> 00:40:20.186
One of them took place back in 2021, and and it's a little bit longer and I'll get into that um later just because I got like the whole story to go through, um and kind of give a breakdown of um, but it was just so fascinating and startling to me of how, uh, this whole story played out and I was like dude, I just gotta, I gotta show this past.

00:40:20.186 --> 00:40:26.264
So, um, that was it, and it's a murder that took place in a grand junction, colorado, in 2021.

00:40:26.264 --> 00:40:28.951
Um, oh, dude, do you know what?

00:40:28.951 --> 00:40:29.472
It is already?

00:40:30.934 --> 00:40:38.673
maybe the brian cohe murder, a young guy who murdered the homeless man yeah, oh, you already know about this.

00:40:38.673 --> 00:40:40.927
You watch a video of him getting arrested.

00:40:40.927 --> 00:40:44.056
Yeah, all right, that video is what flipped it for?

00:40:44.096 --> 00:40:54.420
me right it's that that was the most unsettling like cinematic confession of a serial killer like I.

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