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The Mick & Pat Show - Death on the Doorstep
August 20, 2024

The Mick & Pat Show - Death on the Doorstep

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Season 2

Ever felt your skin crawl at the sight of an enormous spider? Join us as we recount a truly terrifying spider encounter immediately after our last recording session that had us both on high alert. Picture this: a monstrous spider lurking under our front door's canopy, a scene that felt ripped straight from a horror movie. The visceral fear and adrenaline rush we experienced will take you back to your own childhood fears, from monsters in the closet to clowns behind shower curtains. With a mix of humor and genuine fright, we explore how these deep-seated fears continue to influence our daily behaviors, making this episode a rollercoaster of emotions.

In a spine-tingling second segment, we share another suspense-filled spider story that unfolded with a pesky arachnid taking up residence in my truck. Imagine the unease of cautiously checking your surroundings before daring to exit a building, only to be greeted by a massive web strung from the banister to the rear windshield wiper. We'll walk you through the tension and the hilarity of navigating this unexpected obstacle, and reveal the fate of this persistent spider. Tune in for a blend of spine-chilling fear and laughter that will leave you both entertained and a little more wary of your eight-legged neighbors.

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00:51 - Spider Encounter Horror Stories

09:27 - Spider Encounter Outside the House

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so, uh, so something not not very chill happened last last week after we were done recording it's almost like a sequel if you listen to our last episode yeah, it was the worst kind you know.

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Essentially all my fears of what it was in the dark underneath the canopy of our front door came true, and it came true in the most horrific cinematic way.

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You can't tell me that that didn't feel like a movie for a moment there.

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I had emotions.

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I had emotions, I had feelings.

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I heard you yell.

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I think that was you.

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No, bro, that was you.

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I heard you.

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I heard you yell too, I might have yelled, but that might have been you out of body, looking back on yourself yelling Probably.

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I was outside.

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I was outside seeing the spider crawl at us and I saw it murdering you, just tearing you apart as it made its way to get me.

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This is awful, dude.

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I'm getting emotional right now.

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My eyes are getting watery.

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I want you to tell it because you'll.

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I think here's the thing.

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There's no way I can tell it and truly give it justice, because I was.

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It's like one of those things where someone asks you what happened in the car accident and you're just like I don't know man, it kind of blacked out.

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But you ask witnesses of the car accident and they can give way better reports of what happened For sure.

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That's what I need you to do right now, because last week we talked about how there was a spider encounter on the way out of the office, out of the world headquarters studio, and you had gotten a spider web and spider in your mouth, down your shirt, and there was a little bit of an episode.

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Well, we didn't, by the way.

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Welcome to the Make and Pass show.

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Sorry, welcome to the Make pass show.

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Sorry, welcome to the making pass show, because this story could take a couple minutes.

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Um, thanks for joining us all, ken.

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Um, just want to give a you know, a shout out and plug to those of you who listen every week.

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Appreciate you, um.

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And if, uh, you listened last week, you are familiar with the horror stories of me walking into the spider web out front in something, walked into something hard, big though it was a big thing.

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That felt like you know, it felt like, honestly this is the best way I can describe it Pick up, if you're at home right now, or you're going home, listen to this, okay, and do it so that way you understand, just pick up the string to your blinds and close your eyes and kind of dangle it so it hits you in the face like just so, like it gently bonks in your face, you're like, oh, that's a solid piece of plastic.

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Yeah, that's what it felt like, dude, if that's what it felt like I had ran into and the idea of a bug or spider being that dense and big, very unsettling.

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But we didn't see it, and I think it's the same one.

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I think it was too, and so was it, he's like.

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I'll get this bitch next time.

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Is it more concerning now, having seen it Like is the first experience, now even?

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Worse Knowing the sheer girth of this spider.

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Yeah, dude, a hundred percent.

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Because, like it's one of those things of like you know, as a child, you're like there might be a monster in my closet, Mm-hmm, but you don't know, Mm-hmm, and there's only one way to know for sure is if you go check or someone checks?

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Yeah, but if you check and there is a monster, you're dead.

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Yeah, but if you have your mom or dad check and there's no monster, then everything's okay right, which I still check behind every shower curtain for a clown.

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Really.

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I still like while I'm peeing I do it fast Every shower curtain for a clown, really, if I'm peeing next to the shower curtain.

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But be serious, not comedic.

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Is that actually a habitual thing you have to do is make sure there's no one behind the shower curtain?

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Yeah, and I do it with the speed and action of violence that would scare the clown, because one time no, that's the way to do it, though, because if there is a clown, the one time in your life there will be.

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You'll be ready to dance.

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You got to get him dude.

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Because there was a whatever like the 1990s version of it was on yeah, with Tim Curry, which I've never seen.

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I've still never seen.

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Oh, really Excellent, it's so good.

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I bet if I watch it now I'd be like this is so not scary I don't know Tim Curry's really good at it, but not scary enough that I would have to check the bathroom curtain for the rest of my life.

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But it was on TV.

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I walked in the room and the scene where it is in the shower or the boy is in the shower, I don't know one way or the other someone's in the shower and the clown is coming after the boy Coming out of the curtain.

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I check it hard, I check it fast.

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I may, even if I'm midstream, I don't care, I'll make a mess.

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I got to check, get that curtain back.

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I respect it.

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I mean for me that one wasn't it, I think, the one that was really.

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It was honestly psycho, which is the fear of not something being in the shower behind the curtain something coming in, so you just shower curtainless?

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Yeah, I just full on shower.

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That's actually why I kind of like glass showers, just naked in water everywhere.

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If someone opens the door and I'm in a glass shower, I will immediately defuse that right.

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They're coming in there, like'm gonna kill this, I'm gonna kill this guy and I just like take my nuts and press against the glass screen.

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They're like, damn, you got me get out of here oh yeah um, no, but like uh, I told I get that the guy not gothica.

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What was the one with the Korean kids?

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It's the one where she's showering and then there's a second pair of hands in her hair while she's showering.

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You don't know what I'm talking about.

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Oh dude, it was so scary as a kid.

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It was like Not Gothica, gothica was the one with Hailey Berry, anyways, never mind, but that one also made me scared because I would like I would be showering with my eyes closed.

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Right, you're soaking, and I'm just like waiting for to feel another pair of hands touch my head.

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That'd be a great move to do to somebody just sneak in the shower.

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You get to do it once to your wife before she leaves you.

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Like you know what I mean.

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Like I think if I did that to Billie Jean she might kill me in my sleep.

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I might have her let me in so I can get you while you're showering.

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Just a quick.

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I shower with Dude.

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Hey, shout out.

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We're not really, but You're a never nude yeah, I just have the holster always on, even naked bro because you don't need pants for it you don't need pants, you just cinch it around your waist bro on your hips.

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So, anyways, these spiders, the spider, really, there was a prequel to this, to this spider's journey, I think, because we should give it justice, because, do you remember, three weeks ago, I pointed out on my truck as we were toppers were leaving.

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I was like, look at this cool spider web.

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And I was like no, man, it's good.

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And I was like this spider is huge.

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And you're like no, I'm good.

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And you're just like did you see the spider.

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Yeah, oh, I thought you just saw the web and we're like it must be big.

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It was a big spider.

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It was about half the size of the spider we finally came to, dear God.

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You mean in two weeks it doubled its size.

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Dude, I think it was the same one.

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Jesus.

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He's been munching down.

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Pat, if we didn't kill it it would have grown to the size of the earth in 13 days.

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It's exponential At that rate we would have needed nuclear weaponry, and so we saw it a few weeks ago and then last week Pass out.

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A few weeks ago, two weeks ago it went into his car like a sane person.

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Yeah, two weeks ago it got Mick in the mouth, in the face, and then Still don't know if that's what it was.

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Could have been a nut, an acorn in the web.

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It could have been.

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It's about acorn-sized body, which is a large spider.

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Its ass was the size of an acorn.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Put that in perspective, people.

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If its ass is the size of an acorn.

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Oh, no kidding.

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And so, anyways, we come to last week where we've just got done talking about this dang spider.

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And we come to last week where we've just got done talking about this dang spider, and you, slowly, you're exiting first.

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You're the point man.

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I'm at the door and you're opening it.

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I'm checking corners so hard, you fully open.

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Well, you checked before you opened?

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You were looking through the glass window and then no.

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I turned to you and I said hey, man, I think I need you to go first.

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You did.

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Yeah, you're like, can you go first?

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But then this was as you open the door, you say that, and then we're kind of standing shoulder to shoulder at this point and my, my, my truck was backed up to the curb and the spider distance from the door to the truck was probably three to the curb and this spider Distance from the door to the truck was probably three feet.

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Yeah, probably, yeah, that or a little more.

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And this spider, she likes my truck.

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She keeps building webs on them.

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Liked yeah, so spoiler alert.

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So the web must have been around like the hitch, it was building a web.

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I thought it went to your rear windshield wiper.

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It went from the banister or whatever over our door to your rear windshield wiper.

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There we go.

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I think it was even lower because of how tall my truck was and it came out of the darkness.

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It came up out of the darkness.

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It like it.

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It came up out of the darkness for those who have seen jaws, you know when the camera's panning in on the guy on the beach and it's literally like it's zooming into his face while also like it's dollying into his face while zooming out.

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So it does that weird perspective, zoom, and, and that's what happened, like I'm looking at this thing and all I see is this tiny silhouette, you know, crawling on its web from the truck, hitch up to our faces At a high rate of speed, high rate of speed and.

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I see it go from the size of, you know, like the tip of my pinky in perspective, to the size of a of a damn football motherfucker like I heard it going.

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It was like I could hear it's neil's clacking and I saw pat die in front of me.

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It was all in a moment I was like it's gonna kill him it's gonna get, it's gonna tear through like tissue paper.

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What happened bet?

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well, I I you saw what you do when you saw it, I, I think I stood kind of still, I think I did the, because here's what I think I, I think I, I think I did the uh, um, uh, oh, you know, I did the sympathetic flinch.

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You know like like out of you moved and I moved, but then I kind of I saw and I stopped, but all of a sudden, next thing, first thing I knew was just, it was just oh, and then you were not in front of the door anymore.

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After you said that and and it's at this point it's up, and it had come up past our faces and we can't find this thing for a brief moment.

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And you're like, you're just saying I think there's a little bit of like just yelling, like oh my God, oh my God, and I saw it.

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I was like my internal dialogue was was very similar because it was a big old spider and, as you were recovering from the initial instance of it, you're just like you got to kill it, man, you got to kill that thing.

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And I was like, oh, look at this thing, because at this point I'd located it and it was big.

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Did you ever come around and look at it?

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I saw it, point, I'd located it and it was big.

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Did you ever come around and look at it?

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I?

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saw it dead on the ground okay, but I also saw pictures of them.

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You know elsewhere so so.

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So you saw it come up at your face.

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The next time you saw it it was dead, but I it.

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This thing was stopped and it was purchased.

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It was now in the door frame and it was big, I mean like adult male.

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Make a, you know, make the okay sign, that pointer finger and thumb finger, that's how big the butt was in there, just about.

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Yeah, it was a big butted spider.

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So, and orb weaver, I think, I took my trusty rainbow and it ceased to exist.

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Rainbow, is that what you call your shoes?

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Uh, rainbow flip-flop.

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Oh okay, took my rainbow flip-flop and I whacked it and just has how it's.

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It's always interesting how, to me, any spider that is big and scary.

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Once you kill it it gets so tiny.

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This one was hydraulics bro, I know it just, they just get so tiny and and delicate bro, dude, this is the sound it made everybody.

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This is the sound it made after he smacked it with the chancla and it hit the floor it literally thudded and that made me almost throw up.

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Dude, I was like that's how big that thing.

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It crunched and the whole.

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Like you could have shot it with a nine mil and it probably would have survived the whole, like the whole toe and ball of my like foot on the flip-flop, was covered in junk.

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It was a lot of spider.

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But the spider will mess with us no more, except for probably all the babies it had yeah, up there, you know, I what you know I was thinking when I walked in today.

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Dude, I was so unsettled when I was trying to walk in today I was like I gotta do it to get in here.

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Um, I was like it probably ate that fucking bird.

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There's a bird's nest up there and I'm like I'm like that's why the bird ain't there.

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It ate the bird it might bird babies.

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It might have dude that thing is big enough that it could wrap up a newborn baby bird, it's true, and the uh, it is a orb weaver, which also is the same spider as the beloved charlotte of charlotte's web, and we killed it.

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We killed charlotte, yeah bro, poor wilbur, that was like the most intense sympathetic response I've ever had to.

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Like flight Like that one was like.

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I know we'd already said this, it may seem like a repeat, but like that was.

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I was like I'm going to run, like immediately before I could have another clear thought, it was just out the back door.

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That's all I heard in my head was out the back door.

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Out the back door and like I got to the stairs to go up to the second level before I stopped myself and I was like no, like you don't need to run out the back door, that's excessive.

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But it was that strong of a flight.

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You know what I mean and we kind of and I don't run from fucking anything like there's.

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I I have not ever, I've never run from a fight, never run from a big, scary dude.

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You know what I mean.

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And like I was ready to hightail it out of here bro the, and it had been built up because we had just spent a whole half of a podcast talking about discussing it um, but this is a live news report from mick after after this happened.

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This is mick live um is this on the ring doorbell?

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yeah, here we go.

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We have a rapist in lincoln park.

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He's climbing in your windows.

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He's snatching your people up trying to rape him, so y'all need to hide your kids, hide your wife and hide your, because they're raping everybody out here the attacker.

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Who was that guy I?

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know, I remember him.

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Yeah, his name was anton dodson which is crazy because I think so many people think that was like a skit from like the dave chappelle show and no one knows, like that was just a real man out there warning people yeah just with a real personality.

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They raping everybody out of you.

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Dude, I freaking love that.

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Anyways, so that happened, spider stuff happened and time to move on.

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I did get a text message from you know, my buddy, and he's like hey, bro, you're not going to believe the size of the spider in my window.

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Well, and he lives like one block over from me and I'm like dude, send a picture, because we saw a spider the size of like a dollar coin at this podcast studio.

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And he sends it and I was like that's the same mother fucker it ain't dead it came home.

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I was like look man, you gotta kill it right now.

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And then there was one outside that I was actually outside of our house, that Billy Gene was brave enough to hose down and then crush with a stick.

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It was definitely the same type of spider, just darker, like the brown pattern version of the orb weaver.

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Now, look guys, I looked it up and I've heard that they're very gentle, passive spiders that don't bite and all that.

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And I don't give two shits that don't bite and all that, and I don't give two shits.

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It makes my feet and toes curl so hard it's insane.

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And here's a note about the orb weaver, though in Colorado.

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Larger individuals, which I would classify this one as an extra larger one, may give a pinch if grabbed and handled, so they could.

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They might not inject you with venom, but they could uh yeah, no shit, they could pinch on you a little.

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Yeah, oh, dude, all the chills through my knees and forearms right now, right up the back of my neck anyways, pat, let's, uh, let's move on to a uh topic that's not nearly as big of a deal as a spider but is currently in the zeitgeist of everything right now.

00:18:12.551 --> 00:18:35.415
We've talked about transphobia and the trans movement and just when the whole Bud Light thing was blown up and the Dylan Mulvaney and just the things that have been insane, you know insane insanity on the side of people being absolute degenerates.

00:18:35.415 --> 00:18:40.712
And you know the term tranny fluid was like I just always thought, I just always think of that.

00:18:40.712 --> 00:18:58.535
I'm like that's gotta be just like one of the most like derogatory dumbass things to say you know what I mean and like I get it, but like the context of it is like so defeating to the like idea that like you could disagree with their lifestyle in a healthy way.

00:18:58.535 --> 00:18:59.040
You know what I mean.

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And then the other thing then, on the other side too, of like just like the absolute insanity of like sterilizing children and transitioning children, right.

00:19:09.128 --> 00:19:33.285
So we've talked on both sides of this and, um, I think this is like a good example of, you know, people are making, I think, a bigger deal than it is because, well, I don't know if I can say that, I'm just gonna say it, it's women's boxing, um, and so like, uh.

00:19:33.285 --> 00:19:52.070
But all that said, like, I do think that this is like the actual, real conversation of, like, you know, how do we accommodate individuals who are born this way, from birth right and have this, you know, um, intersex, uh, biology, uh, and like, try to accommodate them to.

00:19:52.070 --> 00:20:02.580
You know, give them the best life possible, because it really is a decision that's got to be made pretty quick right when the baby's born, for sure, and what we're getting into here is the.

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You know, there is the kind of thing we see pretty common right now, which is, whatever you know, 13 year olds to 23 year olds, deciding at some point, you know, I feel that I am a different, than I was born a man or born a woman.

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You know, and I'm going to transition into that to, I'm going to excuse you, make moves towards that thing, whereas there's also there's a small percentage of population that has to deal with this.

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They don't get a choice at all from the beginning about getting to deal with it.

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They're kind of delta hand, where their genetics are, you know, uh, such that they are not fully, you know, a man or fully a woman, and so that they, these individuals, have to the choices typically made for them at birth about kind of which direction they head, and then also, from there, you know, they have, um, yeah, it's just not up to them, and I think you know some people might disagree with, like you know, using the words like a choice or whatever, but uh, it's so much more, uh, these people they were born with, you know, mixed up organs, mixed up genetics, whereas other folks you know kind of are up genetics, whereas other folks you know kind of are really dealing with, uh, something in their in my personal opinion, in their mental health, but and or, like you know, I mean 100 dude, like it is, without a doubt, you know, and like I know.

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I just want to actually clarify because we haven't said her name yet.

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But but Imani Khalif, algerian boxer, imani Khalif, I say her not just out of respect for pronoun and just choices, and I don't want to be just an asshole to be an asshole, but she was assigned female sex at birth.

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She was born with undescended testes.

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She was born with undescended testes.

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She, her chromosomal makeup is xxy and she has a vagina but no uterus and no fallopian tubes, and so, of course, she doesn't have, you know, um, ovaries because, oh, she has testes.

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But so, technically, on a biological level, we're talking about someone who has, uh, every cell in their body, essentially believes they're a man, and their testicles that, even though they're undescended, they're still up there and they're still producing testosterone.

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And they're producing testosterone when tested, which amani khalif has been tested, when tested, were producing testosterone at the same rate as any other male, which is why she was actually not allowed to box, and you know other leagues outside of the olympics and other female leagues, I should say because the testosterone was too high for what was acceptable, for essentially being fair in the sport.

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But all that said and this is almost always the case with these intersex kids are almost always assigned female because the vagina is there and the testes aren't descended right.

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So it's a lot easier medically and, you know, with plastic surgery, to essentially give them a much more comfortable life, um, regular life, and it's a lot easier to do like actual like.

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This is a case where like, okay, we told you you were a girl.

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We decided you were gonna be a girl.

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You're now 11, 12, starting puberty.

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We are gonna, we are gonna do testosterone suppressants because you've been a girl your whole life growing up and now, if we don't do that, you're gonna start growing a mustache and you're gonna start getting bulky and you're not going to develop breasts like a woman usually would, and so all that said, like there is, and this has like been the case for decades.

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I mean we've been doing this for these kinds of people for a long time.

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Cause it's not a new thing.

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And it's also like and in like.

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More undeveloped countries like these babies present more as a girl you know, just like just like on a glance he'd be like you know nothing between the legs girl.

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Probably, yeah, exactly, in um, places where there's not nearly as much, um, probably affordable medical care for a condition like this.

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It's also usually places where, culturally, um, if this person lived as a male, they would be shunned from society because they wouldn't be able to partake in the same male things and, like I know this is going to be.

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I know people aren't going to be happy about this, but most people understand where I'm coming from, but, like, predominantly, like third party, um, predominantly muslim countries, like, excuse me, it's far easier for these, uh, intersex people to be a female and live the life of as a female for a majority of their lives, until they're older and until they can either, like you know, transition to male or move somewhere where they could get better medical care, just because majority of their lives, until they're older and until they can either, like you know, transition to male or move somewhere where they could get better medical care, just because the culture, the male culture, is going to be a little bit more.

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I mean correct me if I'm wrong, man, you've been to israel, right, you know?

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I mean you've been, you've been in yemen, and stuff like that.

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Like the male culture is going to know very quickly if you have a penis or not right, yeah, you'd be like unaccepted you know, in that sense, and you know these people are in a hard spot because you know they at the same time like this individual too, like also looks like a girl yeah, I would say, I mean like I've definitely seen girls who look more masculine, for sure.

00:26:03.412 --> 00:26:04.343
So there's, you know, it's just, it's.

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Yeah, I would say, I mean like I've definitely seen girls who look more masculine, for sure, mm-hmm.

00:26:05.779 --> 00:26:06.821
So there's, you know, it's just it's.

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These are the people who, and like the way we feel about it is kind of like they get to be upset about it and or have to like they get to get loud about it, you know, like because they didn't have that's the hand, they were dealt.

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Now.

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What's interesting, though, though, is in the realm of sports and or olympics.

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Exactly what should the protocol be?

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yeah because should these people be able to, like you know, should they be able to get gender affirming care?

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I think yes, because they they've, they need to, they need help sorting this thing out and they deserve some sort of life and normalcy in these things.

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But then, when it comes to sports, this very small percentage.

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One estimate said that 1.7% of people are born with intersex traits, which I didn't look too much further into that.

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That was debunked.

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Actually, I was about to say out of Because it with intersex traits, which I didn't look too much further into that because I think that's that was debunked.

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Actually I was about to say out of, because it's the term traits.

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I was gonna say the traits would be the thing where it's like they consider.

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They consider here's a weird one.

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This was literally on a medical thing I wrote was reading right, it was on a white paper.

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They literally considered small breast size to be a intersex trait.

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Right, that was assigned at birth.

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Right, all babies have small breasts.

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You know what I mean which.

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I was like one of those things.

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I'm just like who wrote this?

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You know what I mean.

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Well, this stat also came from the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

00:27:43.747 --> 00:27:45.385
Oh, so made up office.

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Yeah also, and or like okay, this makes sense to talk about this for human rights, but not from a medical perspective, right?

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Yeah, you mean, it makes sense from a medical perspective.

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No, I mean, what I'm saying is like it makes sense to you could say something like you know, 1.7% of these people have intersex traits, you know, and just be like okay and like pretty loosely cast that out there from a human rights thing.

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Like hey, there's people who are kind of this way or that way.

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This isn't a medical office.

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This isn't a medical office, it's like that's not a trait, no-transcript.

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Um, their good days kind of just a hard road ahead of them on figuring out who they are and they should be loved and cared for.

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Um, but then what does that?

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What's that look like in sports, you know, and the like you said earlier?

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It's kind of interesting too, and once it's like I was watching a couple of clips of different female boxing bouts and it is anticlimactic.

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Now, yeah, at the same time, a lot of people I feel like think like female boxing at the same time.

00:29:05.944 --> 00:29:09.517
A lot of people, I feel like, think female boxing is the same thing as female UFC.

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Female UFC is rowdy.

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It can be Ronda Rousey.

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I've seen Ronda Rousey's face and Holly Holm.

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They're brutal with each other.

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I wouldn't mess with those ladies for a minute.

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I think I'd be willing to try to get in the ring for charity or something, but like there's no way, I'm just like gonna walk around thinking I can take on Ronda.

00:29:30.340 --> 00:29:36.410
No, she would put me in all sorts of compromised positions immediately.

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People can't see it, but I'm like holding my breath, trying to decide whether or not to talk.

00:29:44.606 --> 00:29:47.905
Anyway, he's gone, I'm deciding to not talk.

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And so the you know this has happened before in the past too, a couple times.

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You know where another lady, Kastor Samania.

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She was in the 2016 Olympics.

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I think she was a sprinter, or she was a distance runner, middle distance runner.

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Same thing, where she had the same situation.

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She was from South Africa and so she had intersex traits.

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There was another lady when I was even younger I didn't look into who it was.

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This happens happens with women, this doesn't happen with dudes.

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No, because you won't be a contender.

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I just don't think yeah, and also I don't think intersex presents itself, uh, with, but in the same ways, but you but penile, I don't think you can develop a penis and retain ovaries.

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I think, just like we're talking scientific here, we all essentially start off as females in the uterus and as we develop and become babies from, you know, embryos is like one of the last organs to develop is the penis and the ovaries turning into testes.

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And so, like I don't know, I'm not, you know, I'm not a scientist I'm sure we could find cases of it where it was reported right, but I have never heard of an intersex case, you know, in the public spotlight.

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That was someone that was a bit a male boy who had ovaries but no testes and no, but like still had a penis.

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So all I said I'm not saying these words to be like jokey hokey or anything, I'm literally trying to be, you know, educational for the condition, which is why I think, yeah, you're right, we wouldn't see too much of this, because if a boy had ovaries he's not going to develop the testosterone to allow him to compete at an Olympic level with other males Right.

00:31:59.281 --> 00:32:06.983
It'll show itself in men growing man boobies like real man boobies or something like that whatever, so it shows itself in different ways.

00:32:06.983 --> 00:32:16.131
But, yeah, so it's women who have to typically deal with this, and so, in the olympic realm, you know, should they be allowed to compete?

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And I don't really know if I have a good answer for it um, my like, my initial gut reaction is just like no, because when you see these people compete against others, it is like a night and day situation Now.

00:32:34.363 --> 00:32:46.771
That being said, I'm sure there's a much more nuanced conversation you have around the sporting part of it, but I mean, look at the most strongest men and women in the world.

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They're not Olympians.

00:32:49.066 --> 00:32:53.671
The strongest men and women in the world are on TRT.

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They are on other additives to help them that are legal in their competing environments Right, but they wouldn't, they would never be allowed in the Olympics because because they're on those enhance enhancers and like their you know, workout routines.

00:33:10.127 --> 00:33:30.125
Like the closest thing you can see is like looking at the men and women who do shot put or I guess like the, uh, also probably the, the, the women who do rugby are probably the closest to like professional female bodybuilders that we see in the Olympics and so with that, it's one of those things of like.

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We have other people in society who have a chemical advantage it's not natural but a chemical advantage that would never be allowed to compete and those people know and accept that to compete.

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And those people know and accept that and we're making an exception for someone who, by textbook definition, meets the descriptions and has been raised their whole life as a female, but if you look at the chemistry is like insanely advantaged against the rest of her competitors, right, and I think that is like you got to think of like what.

00:34:08.661 --> 00:34:23.579
And all this always comes out because some people are like, yeah, man, we should just have like intersex leagues of all sports, like professional intersex leagues of basketball like football wrestling, boxing, ufc especially when it comes to like the full, like trans community.

00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:24.523
Yeah, yeah.

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And people like, let the strongest, most fittest, you know, dominate and survive, and I'm like that's how we'll have like dead women on the football field, right, you know, like it is just one of those things of like, no matter how much we want to dance around it, like, genetically you can have advantages.

00:34:43.106 --> 00:34:53.817
And you know, as not political correct as it may sound, like it's been shown time and time again, women have a genetic advantage.

00:34:53.817 --> 00:35:15.782
Women themselves have a genetic advantage over men when it comes to emergency scenarios or judgment Like, literally, women will be judged less harshly, uh, as men will by society, and it's because women just are more appealing, like they are a more appealing person than almost all men.

00:35:15.782 --> 00:35:27.516
And so, like all that said, like it boils down, I think to, though everything just boils down to like the spirit of the sport, right it's the spirit of the game Just like it's the spirit of anything, just like it's the spirit of anything like and what is the original intention and like?

00:35:27.556 --> 00:35:46.659
the original intention is like to have, excuse me, the most balanced playing field possible to compare individuals yeah, I think the only like main counter argument would be like one, like if it's quote-unquote god-given genetics, sure, like me and tom brady have quote-unquote different.

00:35:46.659 --> 00:35:48.545
Yeah, god-given genetics.

00:35:48.545 --> 00:35:51.775
Like that, like just no matter what, he will be better right.

00:35:51.856 --> 00:35:53.443
And so then, like is this?

00:35:53.443 --> 00:35:55.025
We don't know how good he is.

00:35:55.025 --> 00:35:57.891
Like what if we had like an everyday blue collar?

00:35:57.931 --> 00:35:58.514
olympics.

00:35:58.514 --> 00:36:00.403
I don't know, you could smoke it.

00:36:00.403 --> 00:36:02.108
I turned in a screwdriver properly, yeah.

00:36:02.108 --> 00:36:09.768
But the um uh in this case, like also the other counter-argument would be like these people kind of got dealt a rough hand.

00:36:09.768 --> 00:36:12.929
Is this the one area in their life where they get to be the best?

00:36:12.929 --> 00:36:13.862
They are like.

00:36:13.862 --> 00:36:14.987
You know what I mean.

00:36:14.987 --> 00:36:17.088
This is like out of the whole thing.

00:36:17.088 --> 00:36:18.844
These are my genetics.

00:36:19.085 --> 00:36:20.940
This is what I am I mean.

00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:32.556
At the same time, it's undeniable that they are in a league of their own smoking other women?

00:36:32.556 --> 00:36:33.096
Oh yeah.

00:36:33.096 --> 00:36:35.367
Like rolling them up and smoking them, oh yeah.

00:36:35.367 --> 00:36:35.829
You know what I mean.

00:36:35.829 --> 00:36:59.860
So it's one of those things that it's just like what do you like what is more important, the spirit of the game, and like the integrity of it, or like the concept of like everyone inclusion of every yeah the inclusion of everybody who gets the opportunity because, like I think, there's plenty of people who you know, something occurs and they don't get their opportunity at the olympics, even though they've been training their whole life for it.

00:36:59.900 --> 00:37:03.764
Like we don't make an exception for them to then get to go.

00:37:03.764 --> 00:37:04.425
You know what I mean.

00:37:04.425 --> 00:37:16.668
And granted, like I'm thinking about, like you know, accidents, or you know, you know Olympian, who all of a sudden finds out they have cancer, can't compete Right, I don't know.

00:37:16.668 --> 00:37:20.282
Here's where I would err on it.

00:37:20.282 --> 00:37:34.976
I think Amani Khalifa should be given an opportunity to compete in the sport where regulations allow Right.

00:37:34.976 --> 00:37:38.530
One, no one's ever going to stop her from recreationally doing it.

00:37:38.530 --> 00:37:42.951
Two, she's always going to be probably the best of the best.

00:37:42.951 --> 00:37:54.811
Three, apparently it's been reported that she has lost in boxing matches to other women in the past, so there's other women out there in boxing leagues that can beat her.

00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:36.512
But when we're talking about the Olympics and the, I think the olympics is an insanely high level, um, a very high standard of accountability to the like gosh, I don't know, I can't, I don't want to say cleanliness, but the essentially the purity of the sport and the division of that right, right and so, like when someone who is genetically a male but due to their birth conditions and defects, they have lived life as a female.

00:38:36.512 --> 00:38:42.606
I don't think we need to let them compete against females, I don't think we need to include them.

00:38:42.606 --> 00:38:53.085
I think we can say like look, the reason you won't be allowed to compete is because you will win, without a doubt, and there's no spirit of sport in that.

00:38:53.085 --> 00:38:56.521
Like these other women from these other nations, don't stand a chance.

00:38:56.521 --> 00:39:08.530
Dude like Angela Carini from Italy, tiny 5'6 Italian getting swatted around yeah, dude, just brutal brutal you know what I mean.

00:39:08.550 --> 00:39:09.240
So it's one of those things.

00:39:09.240 --> 00:39:19.168
But, like, I think, like you know, amani khalif should be getting a ufc contract, you know right or or some other.

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If she doesn't want to do ufc like, just do like she'd be, she'd be getting a contract for, like, women's boxing right.

00:39:24.583 --> 00:39:26.166
Um.

00:39:26.166 --> 00:39:29.650
So, all that said, that's kind of where I'm at with it.

00:39:29.650 --> 00:39:35.643
I also don't care that much because I think it.

00:39:35.643 --> 00:39:44.387
I don't think it's as bad as like a male, born a male, raised a male their entire life, transitioning to be the top of the league and female.

00:39:45.650 --> 00:39:45.791
UFC.

00:39:45.911 --> 00:39:50.228
Yep, because that screams to me warminess.

00:39:50.268 --> 00:39:51.251
It's a different situation.

00:39:51.782 --> 00:39:59.907
Yeah, the Leah Thompson thing just screams to me like I couldn't hack it in my own, so I decided to come in and just take over your house.

00:39:59.907 --> 00:40:06.387
Yep, I don't care what people think about that, that's just the way it is.

00:40:06.387 --> 00:40:13.659
They couldn't hack it in whatever league they were in previously, so they go and dominate and get the attention in the other one, get the sponsorships in the other one, the scholarships.

00:40:13.659 --> 00:40:18.007
But hey, you know, players play the game, you can't blame them.

00:40:18.007 --> 00:40:26.106
If you told me that was the only way I could get a, you know, full ride to college, I certainly would have considered it, certainly would have thought about it.

00:40:26.106 --> 00:40:35.554
The permanent tuck, not the permanent tuck, but like I think, come on, a lot of those dudes still have their wieners.

00:40:35.673 --> 00:40:40.545
Oh yeah, no, I know yeah oh yeah, oh yeah.

00:40:40.965 --> 00:40:43.650
so we'll see what, uh, I mean it'll.

00:40:43.650 --> 00:40:45.655
I mean, this isn't new to the Olympics.

00:40:45.655 --> 00:40:49.030
It's come up a few times and we'll see where it goes.

00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:57.273
And you know, overall, I think that it'll kind of just become a thing of the past.

00:40:57.273 --> 00:41:25.914
And there's been some other impressive people in the Olympics, oh yeah, especially this one dude who just looks like a dad I think he looks like um gary from breaking bad oh, yeah, uh yeah, the actor, uh yusef, uh dickick the catch he's a turkish olympian silver medalist for pistol 22 uh competition shooting and uh.

00:41:25.974 --> 00:41:32.389
He was famously seen with no hearing protection, no specific eye profiency, mirrors and eye blocks.

00:41:32.389 --> 00:41:39.012
He just had his glasses on hand in his pocket, no weighted vest or out uniform just his polo in his gut.

00:41:39.012 --> 00:41:40.581
Yeah, dude, and he doesn't.

00:41:40.581 --> 00:41:45.452
He doesn't even have a gut he's's got the most healthy-looking dad bod.

00:41:47.106 --> 00:41:51.119
Yeah, but it's not like he's an elite physical appearance.

00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:52.905
He doesn't look like he's the rock.

00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:57.086
He looks like he programs things he really does.

00:41:57.126 --> 00:41:58.230
He looks like a software engineer.

00:41:58.289 --> 00:41:58.791
I think he is.

00:42:00.260 --> 00:42:03.030
But the dude's just total main character energy.

00:42:03.030 --> 00:42:11.025
People don't even know the name of gold medalists for that, like no one knows who the gold medalists were, they just know like he took silver.

00:42:11.025 --> 00:42:24.132
He's awesome, he like I've seen all these memes about Yusuf Decek and like it's like he's like at the computer typing something and like Turkish officials come to him like we need you to come back.

00:42:24.132 --> 00:42:29.362
He's like I told you I was out.

00:42:29.382 --> 00:42:33.590
Yeah, one last time, yusuf son of a bitch like he like just goes there hand in the pocket, just half-ass it.

00:42:33.610 --> 00:42:35.460
Yeah, uh, it gives me.

00:42:35.460 --> 00:42:36.505
You know what he really gives me?

00:42:36.865 --> 00:42:42.903
it gives me the incredibles energy of like him telling flash to get second place at the end.

00:42:42.903 --> 00:42:44.088
Yeah, like number two.

00:42:44.088 --> 00:42:46.342
Number two is good, son, don't, don't give it away.

00:42:46.342 --> 00:42:49.670
Yeah, and like that's kind of like the same thing it gives me.

00:42:49.670 --> 00:42:54.652
We're like you said, people can't know that you are the most world-pronounced assassin.

00:42:54.652 --> 00:43:02.528
Yeah, I'll get second, but like anyways, um, real quick deal.

00:43:02.528 --> 00:43:06.514
Before I forget, I this did come to me and now I've totally flipped on everything with Imani.

00:43:06.514 --> 00:43:16.530
I'm a big believer in precedence and there's precedence the fact that it's been allowed and it's continued to be allowed in other areas.

00:43:17.019 --> 00:43:24.987
So for her as an individual, she should not suffer like a beginner medal's taken away because there's been a precedent set.

00:43:26.420 --> 00:43:30.786
Yeah, there should not be an exception that she doesn't get to compete, because the precedent has been that these other women have been allowed.

00:43:30.786 --> 00:43:34.570
In other sports, so that's actually where I lean.

00:43:34.570 --> 00:43:36.065
I'm a big Supreme Court guy.

00:43:36.682 --> 00:43:37.666
And I like precedents.

00:43:39.034 --> 00:43:56.065
Anyways, but I want to be Yusuf and I've been slowly trying to get good with my gats to do it and I've been updating Pat week to week and whoever else has been listening as I just eject my magazine.

00:43:57.088 --> 00:43:57.570
But I've been.

00:43:57.570 --> 00:44:04.090
It's like Johnny English yeah, no, kidding, feels like it some days, building out the flux man.

00:44:04.090 --> 00:44:12.012
And the flux is pretty much in its final form for me, until suppressors are no longer regulated by the ATF Boo, abolish the ATF.

00:44:12.012 --> 00:44:20.199
But just an update for you all what's working, what's not working, things I'm going to have to do.

00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.347
So, yeah, the Flux Raider.

00:44:23.347 --> 00:44:25.853
If you know about it, you know we love it.

00:44:25.853 --> 00:44:29.474
Sweet, sweet chassis system for the P320.

00:44:29.474 --> 00:44:38.380
Harrington Arms, double port comp facing upward instead of the side ejecting comps Great Works, totally.

00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:39.907
Definitely noticed a lot flatter shooting.

00:44:39.907 --> 00:44:42.889
Recoil definitely feels less snappy.

00:44:42.889 --> 00:44:49.380
Coil definitely feels less snappy.

00:44:49.380 --> 00:44:55.612
Uh, especially noticed with sunglasses and a hat that the hollow sun aims sight I have on top wasn't bumping the rim of my glasses or my hat anymore now.

00:44:55.612 --> 00:45:00.425
Maybe do I have just better control, maybe after shooting you know 500 rounds through it.

00:45:00.425 --> 00:45:04.590
But I've also noticed like it just seems flatter easier follow-up shots.

00:45:04.590 --> 00:45:13.309
Um, the thumb uh, no thumb, what do they call the?

00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:14.050
thing pedal.

00:45:14.331 --> 00:45:27.771
Yeah, the thumb pedal, gas pedal, gas pedal um, it's up here and it really does, I think, help, because if I didn't have it, I don't think I don't know where I'd put my thumb for a good grip now that there's a flashlight.

00:45:27.771 --> 00:45:32.431
So I think the thumb pedal's great if you're going to have a light, which you should.

00:45:33.740 --> 00:45:37.407
And it helps with that comp too, that plus that it helps you just keep it down.

00:45:38.128 --> 00:45:47.264
Yeah, it is, and I think, if I didn't have it, my thumb would just be, I wouldn't be aware of it and I think I'd be burning the shit out of my thumb on the slide.

00:45:47.264 --> 00:45:53.063
Because, let me tell you, the number one problem about the flux is that it's trying to incinerate you.

00:45:53.063 --> 00:46:01.590
Uh, I gave myself like a good first degree blister burn here yeah, I think that's the second degree there might be.

00:46:01.652 --> 00:46:02.132
Bro, what is?

00:46:02.333 --> 00:46:03.780
first and second what's the difference?

00:46:03.820 --> 00:46:04.742
that's a second right there.

00:46:04.742 --> 00:46:06.788
You're not a third degree, is you know?

00:46:06.788 --> 00:46:07.710
It's a bad.

00:46:07.891 --> 00:46:17.882
That's the second right there I mean it's a giant, nasty, long, caterpillar sized blister on my arm that, uh, it filled up pretty quick and went numb.

00:46:17.882 --> 00:46:21.208
After pouring cold water on it was taking a shower.

00:46:21.208 --> 00:46:26.882
I didn't even realize until I started to dry off and it splurted, you know what I mean.

00:46:26.882 --> 00:46:42.724
It exploded and, uh, now I've just been putting ointment on and all that, but it's like a good inch and a half long, um, and I burnt it on the slide when I was going to, uh, I can't remember what I was looking at.

00:46:42.764 --> 00:46:50.809
I think I was trying to wipe something off of the gun and it just nicked to the corner of the slide and, dude, oh my god, it burnt like a bitch.

00:46:50.809 --> 00:46:54.927
So one thing to know about the flux you might want to get a shroud for the front.

00:46:54.927 --> 00:47:05.869
I think I'm going to get a shroud, because that would just prevent the, you know, not being aware of the frame and how hot it's getting.

00:47:05.869 --> 00:47:16.987
And then Tactical Development makes a shroud for it called the Halo, I believe, and it looks sick, kind of looks like it'll make it look like the Halo pistol.

00:47:17.449 --> 00:47:21.545
Oh nice Charging handle on the slide plate.

00:47:21.545 --> 00:47:23.150
It's been awesome, works great.

00:47:23.150 --> 00:47:27.166
Been really liking my surefire.

00:47:27.166 --> 00:47:29.822
Uh, gosh, what is this one?

00:47:29.822 --> 00:47:31.085
X300 ta?

00:47:31.085 --> 00:47:32.969
Uh, super bright.

00:47:32.969 --> 00:47:43.367
Battery doesn't last long so you don't don't, you know, play around with it too much, but I've been using it for just practicing like room clearing drills and it's crazy bright with really good focus.

00:47:43.367 --> 00:47:48.894
Holosun Ames I've been just leaving it on the standard map that it came.

00:47:48.894 --> 00:47:50.126
The Holosun Ames is excellent.

00:47:50.126 --> 00:47:53.748
You can get the Holosun Ames, by the way, on discount at Primary Arms.

00:47:53.748 --> 00:47:54.630
You can go through our link.

00:47:54.630 --> 00:47:58.329
We get a little kickback and you guys get a sight super cheap.

00:47:58.329 --> 00:48:01.942
It's like $100 cheaper and I like it a lot.

00:48:02.123 --> 00:48:05.967
Dude, it's got to be probably the crispiest green dot I've seen.

00:48:05.967 --> 00:48:09.733
And there's no parallax because it's a rifle red dot.

00:48:09.932 --> 00:48:11.576
And it's small in a good way.

00:48:11.576 --> 00:48:14.422
It's small but it's a wide window.

00:48:14.422 --> 00:48:18.012
Yeah, it's a big window, but it's profile does not take up a lot of room.

00:48:18.219 --> 00:48:28.965
I did think the mount was kind of gay, like it just looks like I don's tight, like it narrows down at the base but it's growing on me all right, maybe I'm gay.

00:48:28.965 --> 00:48:40.288
Um, the uh slide release lever that replaces your standard uh lever for releasing the um brace.

00:48:40.288 --> 00:48:55.842
Uh, I had the one that I installed that also released your slide on your actual 320 slide and what I didn't really think about was that I'm also usually pushing against the brace, so when you release the slide you collapse the brace.

00:48:55.842 --> 00:49:03.166
You kind of look like an idiot because then you got to collapse the brace all the way, redeploy it and you just kind of look like a doofus.

00:49:03.166 --> 00:49:07.891
So that I would say is not something to get.

00:49:07.891 --> 00:49:11.326
I definitely gave it to pat to decide if he wants it or not.

00:49:11.326 --> 00:49:13.811
Um, sling setup.

00:49:13.811 --> 00:49:15.534
The sling setup's cool.

00:49:15.534 --> 00:49:23.684
The sling setup makes me feel like I am a villain and die hard because it provides just enough tension to put the sling.

00:49:23.684 --> 00:49:27.032
There's two qD points that come standard on the Raider.

00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:36.130
But essentially, when you have it rigged as a two-point sling, it's essentially a single-point sling until you deploy it.

00:49:36.371 --> 00:49:36.612
Yeah.

00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:37.623
You know, so you have.

00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.969
And it doesn't hinder the deployment at all.

00:49:41.090 --> 00:49:41.291
Yeah.

00:49:41.539 --> 00:49:43.809
It doesn't like slow it down one bit dude.

00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:44.760
Mm-hmm, it at all.

00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:56.266
Yeah, doesn't like slow it down one bit, dude, because the uh, it's one one mount is right on the back of the, the gun, but then the, the one that's a little further back, is right on the brace, and so it's they're.

00:49:56.266 --> 00:49:57.954
They're literally an inch apart from each other.

00:49:57.954 --> 00:50:18.914
Once you deploy it, though, then they're about a foot apart, so it gives you, you know, once you, once you deploy, you have plenty of room to maneuver the weapon, but with the brace collapsed, you really almost like you can, you could like one hand, push out and have support from your, almost like a single point support, oh yeah.

00:50:19.739 --> 00:50:25.969
It's definitely like especially to like I'm thinking like, with something like this, with how concealed it is, this is a is a for the civilian use.

00:50:25.969 --> 00:50:29.715
This is a response platform, just like your concealed carry would be.

00:50:29.715 --> 00:50:34.581
It's just a little, you know, it's a little bit larger and it's probably being carried off body right.

00:50:34.581 --> 00:51:01.778
But if this is a response platform, one thing if you're responding to an emergency, you know an active shooter or something like that is you're probably going to have to be using your offhand to either give commands to people, grab people, pull them out, do medical, and there's just like having the sling on this really frees up your left hand, like because you don't need your left hand to actuate anything other than maybe a reload, and even then you don't need it.

00:51:01.778 --> 00:51:02.760
It just makes it faster.

00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:12.775
And so I think like I mean, yeah, you said like having the sling system set up really serves to be that like extra support tension.

00:51:12.775 --> 00:51:29.286
You can really one hand this puppy and, I think, be pretty accurate with it, especially if you have stock deployed ATFs I mean brace deployed and you're just, you know, one hand in it, zooming in and making sure you have two points of contact on your shoulder and your hand.

00:51:29.286 --> 00:51:30.746
It's pretty sick.

00:51:31.106 --> 00:51:39.710
So I did order the limited edition primary arms with the Blue Force gear.

00:51:39.710 --> 00:51:44.652
They have a limited edition Vicar sling on sale right now, exclusive to primary arms.

00:51:44.652 --> 00:51:48.733
It's called the Chocolate Chip Cookie, camo, and I saw it.

00:51:48.733 --> 00:51:51.014
At first I was like that's stupid, why would I buy that?

00:51:51.014 --> 00:52:06.811
And then I looked at it more and I was like I do need a sling for a dedicated sling for the Flux and that looks pretty sick and I get a discount because of our Make a Pet Show link.

00:52:06.811 --> 00:52:09.226
So I did get that.

00:52:09.487 --> 00:52:11.083
How could you not, how could you not get?

00:52:11.144 --> 00:52:11.621
it, Dude.

00:52:11.621 --> 00:52:15.630
It's cool and I'm really excited to show you because I think you're going to like the camo pattern when it arrives here.

00:52:15.630 --> 00:52:20.070
All that said, Vertex commuter bag is on the way.

00:52:20.070 --> 00:52:27.231
I'll be testing that out for carrying deployment and also the Ibex custom Raider rig I just received.

00:52:27.231 --> 00:52:32.166
It's pretty sick, made by Ibex Customs Dedicated Raider rig.

00:52:32.166 --> 00:52:33.440
It's designed for the Raider.

00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:37.791
It could be used for other pistol caliber carbines and other mags.

00:52:37.791 --> 00:52:42.371
But it comes stock, allowing you to carry five Raider mags.

00:52:42.371 --> 00:52:44.768
You could carry up to five of the 31 rounders.

00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:47.302
That's a lot of rounds.

00:52:47.322 --> 00:53:06.019
Yeah, and it comes with, uh, two loops on the end, on like one, on either end, that you can put a stretch like tactical string through and I was set up with like bungee string to hold a tourniquet and then the other one I think I'm gonna have to get a gas grenade, like a smoke grenade, you know what I mean.

00:53:06.019 --> 00:53:13.123
Just because, just because it looks sick, uh, or I've been just having a deck of cards on it because one.

00:53:13.123 --> 00:53:15.148
It's always fun to shoot a deck of cards like you.

00:53:15.148 --> 00:53:26.288
Just like, put one card up, you tell someone to shoot it and you feel like you know, um, a cowboy, mr miyagi, oh, yeah, I was thinking like you, feel like the sensei splitting the card.

00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.324
You're helping sideways yeah, I do.

00:53:28.346 --> 00:53:29.728
I'm like shoot this slide, yeah.

00:53:29.889 --> 00:53:38.023
Yeah, I don't do that that's too hard for a lot of new people um, but I do put it up and I'm like literally shoot the card, and they're like I can't.

00:53:38.023 --> 00:53:43.934
I'm like, aim small, me small, and they do it, um, but anyways.

00:53:43.934 --> 00:53:46.648
All that said, um, I love the ibex custom raider rig.

00:53:46.648 --> 00:53:56.123
I spoke to the owner of ibex customs and I was like hey, man, guess what, I need a rig by saturday, because I'm doing a big shoot day on saturday.

00:53:56.123 --> 00:53:58.367
He's like, bro, I got you only one.

00:53:58.367 --> 00:54:04.588
I got made right now, though, is this uh, fde color and I was like I'll take dog.

00:54:04.809 --> 00:54:10.208
I don't care what color it is, I just need one by then so I can test it out, because I didn't have anything to carry all the mags in.

00:54:10.208 --> 00:54:13.806
Right and dude, he sent it two days shipping.

00:54:13.806 --> 00:54:17.942
Nice Sent it out to me real fast, so definitely go check out Ibex.

00:54:17.942 --> 00:54:18.663
I love it so far.

00:54:18.722 --> 00:54:19.103
It's really great.

00:54:19.103 --> 00:54:20.465
Is he like selling?

00:54:20.505 --> 00:54:25.610
He sells them himself, dude, all right, yeah, and he takes a lot of any feedback you have.

00:54:26.012 --> 00:54:26.192
Yeah.

00:54:26.231 --> 00:54:29.815
He's been improving on the design with like all the feedback he's been getting.

00:54:32.019 --> 00:54:33.824
And it's gone through like two or three different iterations.

00:54:33.824 --> 00:54:36.108
That's cool and the Flux has gotten so much attention.

00:54:36.108 --> 00:54:37.492
There's like a sub market.

00:54:37.492 --> 00:54:43.208
Oh yeah, I mean there is a sub market just to Flux accessories and parts and attachments.

00:54:43.588 --> 00:54:50.090
That moves me on to the last thing I'm using for training, which you guys can all hear.

00:54:50.090 --> 00:54:51.342
If you're familiar, it's the dry fire mag.

00:54:51.342 --> 00:55:08.840
So dry fire mag I've been using for my Shadow Systems MR920, and it's just a dummy mag with a little pedal on a very tactile spring system and they make a dry fire mag for the 320.

00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:25.518
And if you do some modification which I'm going to post a video on how to do it if you do some modification, then you can essentially adapt it for your flux and so it's got that nice tactile clicky reset and it's safe to dry fire without damaging your spring.

00:55:25.518 --> 00:55:27.057
So it's got that nice tactile clicky reset and it's safe to drive fire without damaging your spring.

00:55:27.057 --> 00:55:28.766
So it's pretty sweet.

00:55:28.766 --> 00:55:30.231
Um, I love it.

00:55:30.231 --> 00:55:36.072
I think it's great for training, definitely makes me more accurate, uh, because you get a lot of reps in um also.

00:55:36.735 --> 00:55:37.677
Last thing trigger.

00:55:37.677 --> 00:55:45.932
I did a trigger upgrade, uh, from armory something I can'tory, I think it's Armory Guy.

00:55:45.932 --> 00:55:51.585
Armory Guy, he makes a bunch of 320 parts, but his trigger system is great.

00:55:51.585 --> 00:55:52.769
Love the reset.

00:55:52.769 --> 00:56:07.471
I actually increased the tension for the trigger reset to be more tactile-y, like you have a higher feedback, and then I lowered the actual trigger break.

00:56:07.471 --> 00:56:12.228
So, um, but that's the flux update.

00:56:12.228 --> 00:56:12.909
I'm liking it.

00:56:12.909 --> 00:56:14.954
I'll be putting videos up soon.

00:56:15.014 --> 00:56:31.576
I think that's like really honestly, what we should just start doing is doing like short form product review stuff, because we've been doing so many products and development stuff, um, and just letting people how we enjoy or don't enjoy certain things, um, which is kind of what I also have here.

00:56:31.576 --> 00:56:33.981
Um, just quick update.

00:56:33.981 --> 00:56:54.427
So pat's been busy and, uh, it's true, you know it's not a bad thing because been making moolah, um been in a good moolah season but we haven't been able to do as many reviews of movies as I like or TV shows, because there's just not enough time for Pat to watch them.

00:56:54.427 --> 00:56:56.570
At the rate, me and Billie Jean do.

00:56:56.570 --> 00:57:04.989
Billie Jean, you know, working from home it just really allows us to spend a lot of time watching one episode for lunch and then another couple at, you know, dinner evening.

00:57:04.989 --> 00:57:07.887
You also watching one episode for lunch and then another couple at you know dinner evening.

00:57:07.907 --> 00:57:08.269
You also have kids.

00:57:08.269 --> 00:57:08.630
That's what I was.

00:57:08.630 --> 00:57:09.193
Kids is probably a big one.

00:57:09.193 --> 00:57:10.760
This is the first year that I really saw.

00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:19.514
Like I used to crush so much television and like now it was kid three, just no more.

00:57:19.514 --> 00:57:22.003
Like like I also like I went down you know life.

00:57:22.003 --> 00:57:29.315
This last week watched a show and I was like we haven't watched TV in, like I don't know when the last time was.

00:57:29.315 --> 00:57:36.590
It just was like the routine used to be like put the kids down, watch TV, go watch an episode or two, whatever something.

00:57:36.590 --> 00:57:38.987
But it does change the game eventually.

00:57:38.987 --> 00:57:41.427
But you've got to list you.

00:57:41.427 --> 00:57:45.884
You've got some brand new stuff, you've got some old ass ass stuff.

00:57:45.923 --> 00:57:47.949
I like it yeah, yeah, yeah, I do I.

00:57:47.949 --> 00:57:52.469
It's just whatever billy jean and I have covered this summer, plus whatever I've listened to.

00:57:52.469 --> 00:57:58.445
That I don't think warrants a dog ear dialogues, but was damn good, uh, book wise.

00:57:58.445 --> 00:58:02.893
And so, uh, first thing, tv show from, from is that's all it's called.

00:58:02.893 --> 00:58:06.168
Another four letter tv show, just like uh lost.

00:58:06.168 --> 00:58:14.541
It's made by a lot of the people who were good writers and producers for lost, um, and it's even got uh, some of the cast from loss.

00:58:14.541 --> 00:58:19.130
Uh, it's really suspenseful a lot of blood, a lot of violence.

00:58:19.130 --> 00:58:20.273
It's like lost.

00:58:20.273 --> 00:58:25.625
If they didn't have to make it for network TV, come on after American, yeah.

00:58:25.625 --> 00:58:40.465
But it's got a lot of good questions, a lot of different elements, very stressful, and it is very mystical and it leaves you wondering the whole time like what the hell is going on.

00:58:40.505 --> 00:58:48.351
But I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say I think it's better than Lost because, excuse me, it has less content limitations.

00:58:48.351 --> 00:58:59.061
And I think it's also very similar in that it presents a lot of great questions and dialogue surrounding you know, like, where are we?

00:58:59.061 --> 00:59:01.025
Are we alive, are we dead?

00:59:01.025 --> 00:59:02.347
Is this a simulation?

00:59:02.347 --> 00:59:04.092
Who's behind everything?

00:59:04.092 --> 00:59:08.525
Right, um, the monsters are scary.

00:59:08.525 --> 00:59:13.860
Uh, it's first season's on amazon prime uh, but it's originally made for mgm plus.

00:59:13.860 --> 00:59:20.851
If you want to watch more than just the first season, you'll have to get a uh trial for MGM+.

00:59:20.851 --> 00:59:23.014
Season 3 is about to drop here too.

00:59:23.014 --> 00:59:25.764
End of August Bears, season 3.

00:59:25.764 --> 00:59:28.646
Weakest of the Bears seasons dude.

00:59:28.646 --> 00:59:38.759
Not surprising, billie Jean and I both felt the same way, but so far it was just a ton of you know the wheels spinning in place Slow cooking scenes.

00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:40.306
Yeah, dude, I mean.

00:59:40.445 --> 00:59:46.731
I guess it was fast-paced, right, but it was just the same thing over and over again all season with like almost no development.

00:59:46.731 --> 01:00:08.467
Huh, um, and I don't again, I don't want to spoil anything for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but like the development that there was, it just wasn't what the characters you cared about yeah and um, something about the acting feels just, uh, less genuine than season one.

01:00:08.487 --> 01:00:10.431
They're losing the new mojo, I think.

01:00:10.431 --> 01:00:10.911
I think it.

01:00:10.911 --> 01:00:16.291
What it is is like in season one the dialogue and the chaos didn't feel fake.

01:00:16.291 --> 01:00:44.052
It felt like almost like improv and very genuine, and like now it feels like the dialogue's not written and people are having to like kind of fill in while they're talking with expressions and faces that like are just like I don't know what to say right now, so I'm just gonna give you a look and then I'm gonna be like okay, whatever man, you do you boo, boo, right, and it's just like is this the same writers?

01:00:44.693 --> 01:00:56.940
All that said, I still think it's good, yeah, but it's such a disappointment and I in like the idea that the bear is going to be season four when I'm like one of the main stands for it should have been one season and done.

01:00:56.940 --> 01:01:02.188
It hurts like this is like it's oh, it's overstaying its welcome a lot right now.

01:01:02.188 --> 01:01:20.813
Yeah, honestly, you could watch I bet you could watch season two and the end of season two and watch the beginning of season four and feel like you didn't miss anything.

01:01:20.813 --> 01:01:23.097
That should speak everything you need to know about my opinion of season three.

01:01:23.097 --> 01:01:26.240
All right, house of the Dragon.

01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:28.704
Season two awesome, great cgi, great hype scenes, medieval drama.

01:01:28.704 --> 01:01:41.583
Uh, it was a total filler prep season to set up the stage for all the armies and stuff coming together for the season three, which was is just going to be like a whole season.

01:01:41.583 --> 01:01:42.692
That is just going to be war.

01:01:42.692 --> 01:01:50.543
It's just going to be dragons eating dragons and blowing fire on people and armies clashing and ships clashing and cool set pieces.

01:01:50.543 --> 01:01:52.702
People are just going to die.

01:01:52.824 --> 01:01:53.626
I think it has to be.

01:01:55.101 --> 01:01:56.242
It's based on one book, right?

01:01:56.242 --> 01:02:06.869
This is a classic where they've set it all up, perfect, and then they do something weird, true, but then they do something weird, true, true, but if they give people what they want, that's what it'll be.

01:02:07.420 --> 01:02:14.005
And they said at the end of this one in the behind the scenes, like we're really setting up the stage for next season, which is just going to be all-out war.

01:02:14.286 --> 01:02:15.789
All right, tight Nice.

01:02:19.561 --> 01:02:23.746
There was definitely some wheel spinning, though in this one too Needed definitely some more action.

01:02:23.746 --> 01:02:28.972
Some things could have been resolved, moved along quicker, and there were some odd deviations from the source book.

01:02:28.972 --> 01:02:35.443
And if you know, you know what I'm talking about If you read the book, if you ever read the book.

01:02:35.443 --> 01:02:41.364
There was probably just some scenes where you were like wait, that person just opened up about how they were raped as a child by their father and now they're in the mood for sex.

01:02:41.364 --> 01:02:48.115
I don't really think that is realistic, um, and so stuff like that.

01:02:48.215 --> 01:02:53.427
It was like just eight guys, not a good pickup line yeah, I don't even know it was pickup line.

01:02:53.487 --> 01:03:08.552
I don't know, I'm just saying I haven't seen it, but that sounds like it sounds like it won't work I'll be honest, like if anyone, if a woman is, guys, if a woman is ever opening up to you about serious trauma in her life and you try to kiss her, you're going to be seen as a freaking weirdo.

01:03:09.253 --> 01:03:09.875
Don't do that.

01:03:10.059 --> 01:03:16.065
Just listen to her and then move on Sopranos we finished the Sopranos.

01:03:16.065 --> 01:03:24.514
Totally worth a watch If you like that kind of you know duality of like small slice of life work slice of life.

01:03:24.514 --> 01:03:37.065
I'm just, you know, gotta go, gotta wake up do my thing in the morning and then come home and the kids are crying and ungrateful and the wife is spending all the money Like slice of life stuff.

01:03:37.065 --> 01:03:43.559
Very Breaking Bad vibes, right, yeah, but it was the precursor to Breaking bad and all these other ones that we have.

01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:46.005
Um, it has a ton of nudity though.

01:03:46.005 --> 01:03:50.981
So if you're like I'm not really big on nudity, well, don't watch the sopranos.

01:03:50.981 --> 01:03:53.307
They literally use they own a strip club.

01:03:53.387 --> 01:04:04.061
I was gonna say they use scenes in the strip club with boobies as like transition scenes yeah, yeah, like for no good reason, yeah, it's just yeah it, um, and there's also a lot of dark themes.

01:04:04.081 --> 01:04:14.492
So if, like, you're not someone who enjoys dark themes about betrayal and you know family trauma, stuff like that, then don't watch it, uh, but I thought it was really good.

01:04:14.492 --> 01:04:16.463
Great for a one-time watch at least, for sure.

01:04:16.463 --> 01:04:17.824
Uh, billy g and I loved it.

01:04:17.824 --> 01:04:26.327
Um, books now recursion by Blake Crouch, who's also the author behind dark matter, which is now a series on Apple TV.

01:04:26.327 --> 01:04:30.382
Um, I was like, all right, I'll check out this one Cause it sounds cool.

01:04:31.284 --> 01:04:34.471
Um, really excellent time bending drama novel.

01:04:34.471 --> 01:04:35.512
It's a one and done.

01:04:35.512 --> 01:04:38.704
It's not part of any series, it's get one book.

01:04:38.704 --> 01:04:46.255
It's nine hours, follows pretty much two people and just how insane time traveling can be.

01:04:46.255 --> 01:05:20.971
And it wraps itself up like, very honestly, I will say and both the narrators were excellent I really wondered a lot, I was very sad a lot, wondered a lot, I was very sad a lot and I've also felt very nostalgic because they really encapsulated what it feels like to like being a memory of like a time in your life that you're like it's almost real when you're thinking about it, the smells and stuff, um, also, uh, very new time traveling concepts, not your classic grandfather's paradox stuff.

01:05:20.971 --> 01:05:34.728
Um, I've actually never seen anything movie, tv show, book do time traveling the way they did it, with the problems that come from time traveling, as well as the plans they try to make to solve the problems.

01:05:34.728 --> 01:05:37.574
All of it was very new, very fresh.

01:05:37.574 --> 01:05:47.362
Only complaint is by the end of the book, you're probably, you're, you're gonna, there's gonna be a moment where you're like, I know, I get it the ripple effect.

01:05:47.362 --> 01:05:50.500
Yes, you said it five times in the last like 10 minutes.

01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:56.215
Right, because it's just kind of like it starts building on itself and the kind of with that building.

01:05:56.215 --> 01:05:58.347
It's a little repetitive but it's still very good.

01:05:59.282 --> 01:06:09.686
Um, torment by Jeremy Robinson I know, I mentioned it, I think, last week in passing, but it is dante's inferno meets like the road, nuclear apocalypse kind of stuff.

01:06:09.686 --> 01:06:27.076
Um and uh, I mean it is, I think, the only book in the last year that, like I was listening to the narrator and I had, you know, heart pounding dread of like, oh my God, oh my God, what is going to happen?

01:06:27.076 --> 01:06:28.385
Oh my, I don't know.

01:06:28.385 --> 01:06:30.047
I literally need to listen.

01:06:30.047 --> 01:06:33.931
I need to like stay awake so I can hear how this resolves.

01:06:33.931 --> 01:06:44.021
Very suspenseful, really good religious horror, and I don't want to go any more deep than that because I don't want to spoil nothing but really good religious horror.

01:06:45.123 --> 01:06:50.521
Um, mind Bullet, also by Jeremy Robinson, just shows that this guy can write a lot of different stuff.

01:06:50.521 --> 01:07:03.731
Mind Bullet is easily the best, uh like action novel, which feels like an oxymoron because, like, how can an novel be actiony like I've?

01:07:03.731 --> 01:07:18.425
You know, I've read sci-fi drama, space drama novels that are kind of like, you know, star Wars or like other mystery action movies, you know, but this is literally just non stop.

01:07:18.425 --> 01:07:40.407
Chapter to chapter is just one action set piece to another of very iconic bad guys getting killed by very funny and creative assassins, and like it's a kind of like if Keanu Reeves was just like, uh, not just necessarily playing John wick, but like John wick and Tony Stark combined into one person.

01:07:40.407 --> 01:07:44.664
Yeah, uh, very entertaining, really great book.

01:07:44.744 --> 01:07:47.559
Also really short, but part of a bigger torment in mind.

01:07:47.559 --> 01:07:52.208
Below they're apparently wrapped up in some kind of big book universe.

01:07:52.208 --> 01:07:54.413
So, uh, but check those out.

01:07:54.413 --> 01:07:54.753
Everything.

01:07:54.753 --> 01:07:58.931
Those are all the things that have been pretty good, other than the bear, still good, I guess.

01:07:58.931 --> 01:08:03.451
But, um, those are my updates for anyone who's looking for stuff to watch or read.

01:08:03.451 --> 01:08:08.311
They're really good TV shows and books.

01:08:08.311 --> 01:08:10.065
Hopefully, pat, you get to check some out.

01:08:10.661 --> 01:08:12.965
Hopefully someone interests you Need to check them out, for sure.

01:08:14.621 --> 01:08:21.134
But here we are at the end of the road here for this episode.

01:08:21.134 --> 01:08:24.006
Our last little point here I want to try to just.

01:08:24.006 --> 01:08:37.990
You know, please, the youtube gods so if anyone's been, you know, listening we've talked about before our actual latest episode got denied any ability to be advertised or, uh, promoted.

01:08:37.990 --> 01:08:41.993
Um, because we mentioned orange guy, sleepy guy and smiley gal, and you know orange guy, he's running for president.

01:08:41.993 --> 01:08:47.051
Because we mentioned Orange Guy, sleepy Guy and Smiley Gal, and you know Orange Guy, he's running for president again.

01:08:47.051 --> 01:08:51.211
He was president but then lost to Sleepy Guy and Smiley Gal.

01:08:51.211 --> 01:08:59.287
Smiley Gal has now usurped Sleepy Guy and is now running for president, because Sleepy Guy is deemed too sleepy.

01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:08.190
And if you don't know who we're talking about, I don't know how to make it any more obvious and honestly, just continue to not pay attention to the world outside.

01:09:08.190 --> 01:09:09.542
You just live your life.

01:09:09.542 --> 01:09:23.994
But, um, just a little bit of updates on all these people because of course you know it's the presidential cycle and, uh, it's just pure entertainment and hysteria.

01:09:23.994 --> 01:09:36.895
I think, right now, with like modern media and modern social media especially, it's just like, I think, most of us I'm really thinking most people.

01:09:36.895 --> 01:10:03.076
I have a lot of faith that the majority of people are seen through the illusion now, that the majority of people are seeing through the illusion now and they're like this is all just fabricated and made up for whoever's got the deepest pockets right, whoever the flavor of the day is, is who we're supposed to like, who we're supposed to eventually vote for, and I think that nothing encapsulates this more than what everyone's terming the gaslighting of America by the media.

01:10:03.076 --> 01:10:14.146
For Smiley Gal, yeah, like we've all been told for years, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat, it doesn't matter if you're Republican, liberal, conservative, independent libertarian.

01:10:14.146 --> 01:10:28.345
All of us have unanimously agreed for years Smiley Gal sucks, she's irrelevant, she's not a leader, easily the worst vice president for millennials since they've been alive that they can remember.

01:10:29.368 --> 01:10:39.724
I know a lot of gen xers and boomers who are like yep, that easily the worst I've seen, most incapable, it's hard to listen to, well, and it's like I mean, I don't even like I don't even.

01:10:39.724 --> 01:10:44.199
I don't have anything against the chick other than like I mean, here's the thing.

01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:59.009
I guess I will say this she's very fake and I'm very against her record of you know what she's ruled on, what she's pushed in her political positions, right.

01:10:59.009 --> 01:11:12.203
But that said, like it's not, like she's hillary clinton and you know was responsible for the death of our soldiers, right, you know, like I don't have something like that vehement, but it is genuinely like.

01:11:12.203 --> 01:11:19.524
There's no way, dude, like can you see smiley gal talking to putin talking down kim jong-un?

01:11:19.524 --> 01:11:22.893
I mean no, no, there's no way, absolutely not.

01:11:22.893 --> 01:11:27.532
Smiley Gal is not going to be the one who mediates a ceasefire between Zelensky and Pooit.

01:11:27.532 --> 01:11:31.148
There's no way, dude, they would never take her seriously.

01:11:31.148 --> 01:11:38.082
So, all that said, the media has been gaslighting, like you know, for the longest time.

01:11:38.203 --> 01:12:16.783
she was referenced as being like the first Indian vice vice president the first indian person to be you know that close to being president indian, and she ran on this whole thing that she's indian and she I remember they did like all these youtube shows and netflix interviews of like other indian celebrities interviewing her and how she's indian and like I always I guess even then knew, like I had seen her background, that she was half black but she was running on the Indian horse and now she's running on the black horse and a lot of people make comments of like well, now it's convenient for you to be, you know, black when you want the black vote right.

01:12:16.783 --> 01:12:20.162
And some people are upset about that.

01:12:20.162 --> 01:12:21.840
Some people are not in their heads in agreement.

01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.225
The black community is very divided about it.

01:12:24.225 --> 01:12:26.189
A lot of you can see a lot of interviews.

01:12:26.189 --> 01:12:42.189
Cnn just had one recently where they were interviewing a town hall and all the black people were like she's not black, like it's kind of one of those things where it's just like the media is like oh wait, this is kind of backfiring, um, because they're that now, that's like the horse she's riding on.

01:12:42.369 --> 01:12:48.838
Also, this whole idea of her not having anything to do with the US border is crazy.

01:12:48.838 --> 01:12:53.305
It really feels to me like people don't remember.

01:12:53.305 --> 01:12:57.631
Maybe people don't man, but I guess maybe I just have a different memory.

01:12:57.631 --> 01:13:23.818
Maybe we're in the freaking multiverse of what's that called the Bernstein-Bears effect thing, mandela effect, mandela effect yeah, the universe has collided and only half of us remember this, but her and Biden ran in 2020 saying that they were literally in ads encouraging asylum seekers to flood the US encouraging asylum seekers to flood the US.

01:13:30.729 --> 01:13:33.216
And then, after she became vice president and they won the election, she went.

01:13:33.216 --> 01:13:34.500
You know, she was put in, she was given this role.

01:13:34.500 --> 01:13:38.497
This is an AP article here, written in 2021, talking about how Biden appointed Harris for a border challenge.

01:13:38.497 --> 01:13:44.140
And this is, you know, article written in 2021, about what she's going to be appointed and responsible for.

01:13:44.140 --> 01:14:00.807
And she literally I remember this because it was memed so hard she went on tv and gave a message to all of the illegal immigrants and migrants and asylum seekers coming to the us and she looked at him dead in the eyes and she said do not come.

01:14:00.807 --> 01:14:05.175
Yeah, do not come and I cannot forget that, bro.

01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:22.060
The way she just shakes her head at them, it's like do not come, and I can't, you know, we all know how that was memed to hell and back and it was hilarious, but it's as if people just forgot that and like that was like what she was being overseen for, um overseen and as if that did anything.

01:14:22.060 --> 01:14:24.649
Yeah like, like, it's like and that's it.

01:14:25.881 --> 01:14:26.762
That was your whole job.

01:14:26.762 --> 01:14:35.810
Like he wanted you to handle the border, he said two sentences and that was it well, and here's the biggest thing, it was like la times can't even really defend it.

01:14:36.011 --> 01:14:50.520
La times is saying that she was put in charge to oversee immigration problems and then they list out all these things and they're like but you know, as all problems do, the immigration problem shifted and they couldn't deal with it.

01:14:50.520 --> 01:15:00.760
I'm like, bro, if I swear, if someone came to me and reported that, like that is a reason a big project didn't get done at my work, I would fire them or you know what I mean you'd get fired.

01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:03.685
If that was my excuse, yeah, I'd get fired if you said that, if that was my excuse, yeah, I'd get fired.

01:15:03.706 --> 01:15:04.927
The problem shifted.

01:15:05.288 --> 01:15:07.573
Honestly, we were working on it, but it shifted.

01:15:07.573 --> 01:15:13.947
What but Hoover Institution, which?

01:15:13.947 --> 01:15:21.095
The Hoover Institution is a research institution that is based on the Stanford campus.

01:15:21.095 --> 01:15:22.485
It's been around for a very long time.

01:15:22.485 --> 01:15:24.645
They do a lot of fact checkingchecking, a lot of research.

01:15:24.645 --> 01:15:29.327
They're not a journalist, they're not a political organization, they're just a research institution.

01:15:30.182 --> 01:15:44.533
And they found that most of the statements around Smiley Gal's role at the US-Mexico border were, at best, attempting to downplay and, at worst, just outright deny and distance her from the failure that it was.

01:15:44.533 --> 01:15:55.072
And they just went through all these facts like look, it doesn't matter what you've, your views are, here are the facts like and we're not about being political here, we're just about the research.

01:15:55.072 --> 01:15:55.292
What?

01:15:55.292 --> 01:15:56.162
What is the truth?

01:15:56.162 --> 01:16:01.663
She was in charge of a task force to identify reasons for illegal immigration and secure the border.

01:16:01.663 --> 01:16:11.148
Her and Sleepy Guy, like I said, both ran on open borders message telling people to come and flood the US that they would be welcomed under their presidency and administration.

01:16:11.148 --> 01:16:21.707
They backtracked on that and, additionally, they found that Smiley Gal was put in charge.

01:16:21.707 --> 01:16:30.296
Part of what she was in charge for and what they're framing it as right now is securing the private sector's assets at the border.

01:16:30.296 --> 01:16:32.043
Do you know what that is?

01:16:32.043 --> 01:16:33.328
It was land.

01:16:33.860 --> 01:16:36.289
It was land and businesses at the border.

01:16:36.289 --> 01:16:41.539
And so it's just like okay, I'm not securing the border, just securing the land at the border.

01:16:41.539 --> 01:16:45.319
Okay, I'm not securing the border, just securing the land at the border.

01:16:45.319 --> 01:17:00.091
And they also found that the study that Smiley Girl was put in charge of was pretty much absolutely devoid of any statistics, factual evidence or credentials to what they concluded about the border and its causes.

01:17:00.091 --> 01:17:06.128
There was literally like and this is something we could all download and read, like this is not a secret, you can look this up and know it.

01:17:06.128 --> 01:17:15.529
There's no statistics, no research that was done to provide any like backing to like the claims she made in her report that she presented about the border.

01:17:16.020 --> 01:17:24.729
It was just like sexual violence, drugs and crime and persecution are why people are leaving their countries and coming to the US.

01:17:24.729 --> 01:17:29.771
Also, we pay 200% more than they make there in a week, in a day.

01:17:29.771 --> 01:17:33.328
That's our conclusion here.

01:17:33.328 --> 01:17:40.025
And people are like no shit, okay, so anyways, we all know nothing happened.

01:17:40.025 --> 01:17:45.715
But now the media is just essentially gaslighting all of us saying, no, no, smiley Gal was never in charge of border stuff.

01:17:45.715 --> 01:17:53.134
That's total like, just you know bad framing of what her responsibilities were, and I'm just like?

01:17:53.180 --> 01:17:56.027
Because also, what are the responsibilities of the vice president?

01:17:56.027 --> 01:17:57.229
Nobody knows.

01:17:57.229 --> 01:17:57.971
Chill.

01:17:57.971 --> 01:18:04.463
Their responsibility is to, at election time, polish the rims and smoke blunts.

01:18:04.463 --> 01:18:09.069
Their job is to swing a vote.

01:18:09.069 --> 01:18:10.770
True, that's what it is.

01:18:10.770 --> 01:18:14.836
It's either a battleground state or a certain demographic.

01:18:16.161 --> 01:18:21.127
Yeah, and you know all this is all is said.

01:18:21.127 --> 01:18:28.716
You know it is hard because this local Channel 13 news station was called WVTM Channel 13 News.

01:18:28.716 --> 01:18:53.109
They wrote an article that was really good about just like outlining like why do people like, why does the media feel like they can gaslight the general public and the public's opinion will just like roll over because it's not working, like hoover institution and this like local media news channel, just to their credit, because they had a really good article doing everything, like going over everything.

01:18:53.109 --> 01:18:56.331
Um, they're just pretty much like so this isn't working.

01:18:56.331 --> 01:18:57.175
Why are the?

01:18:57.175 --> 01:18:59.823
Why is the media doubling down on it like big media outlets?

01:18:59.823 --> 01:19:13.801
Because it's probably going to have the opposite effect where, like your voters who are in the middle, your voters who are curious about what smiley gal was going to do with the border or what happened, are now like, oh, you're just outright denying it and trying to sweep it.

01:19:13.801 --> 01:19:16.387
Okay, well, now that makes me not trust you.

01:19:16.387 --> 01:19:18.030
Yeah, and so they're.

01:19:18.030 --> 01:19:22.601
You know these are both independent orgs, right, that are just trying to like essentially be like this doesn't look good.

01:19:22.601 --> 01:19:24.007
It's probably not going to work in their favor.

01:19:24.007 --> 01:19:28.829
They should probably just outright confront it and try to provide a good explanation on how it won't happen again.

01:19:28.829 --> 01:19:35.346
Like all things, don't lie to your boss or your stakeholders on why you dropped the ball.

01:19:35.346 --> 01:19:39.930
Own it and describe to them the solution and how you're going to enact it.

01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:43.122
Sleepy guy, though.

01:19:43.122 --> 01:19:44.365
Sleep, though.

01:19:44.365 --> 01:19:45.711
Sleepy guy, where's he been?

01:19:45.711 --> 01:19:46.541
He looks taller.

01:19:46.541 --> 01:19:51.048
Um, yahoo says no way, jose.

01:19:51.048 --> 01:19:53.353
Uh, this was my favorite part.

01:19:53.353 --> 01:19:56.525
I was reading the yahoo uh answers article on this.

01:19:56.525 --> 01:20:02.006
It wasn't just like a form yahoo answers, it was like a written by you know people who are the Fact checkers that, yeah, who?

01:20:02.006 --> 01:20:04.431
Here's the thing.

01:20:04.431 --> 01:20:10.340
Let me just come out and say I don't, I'm not on the train, that I 100% believe this guy is a double.

01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:14.787
For sleepy guy the full conspiracy, yeah, I believe there's A lot of things Like.

01:20:14.787 --> 01:20:18.002
It could be Camerangles, it could be Different shoes.

01:20:18.002 --> 01:20:22.310
He could be totally in lifts to make himself look healthier, taller stature right.

01:20:22.630 --> 01:20:24.052
Lose a lot of weight after being sick.

01:20:24.073 --> 01:20:27.228
You look a little taller yeah he is six inches taller than his wife.

01:20:27.649 --> 01:20:27.810
Yeah.

01:20:28.079 --> 01:20:35.125
So and she's often in heels around him and all that and everyone's like talking about how she's in these tall heels and he's just still towering over her.

01:20:35.125 --> 01:20:38.024
All I said the best thing is like Yahoo answers.

01:20:38.024 --> 01:20:39.586
Was it like guys?

01:20:39.586 --> 01:20:52.448
If we examine these reference of articles and other images to get a picture of how tall he is and his difference in height, and compare it to the camera angle here and we use image enhancement, we can figure out that he's not any taller.

01:20:52.448 --> 01:20:56.266
They're just like this I'm sorry, dude, I'm trying not to laugh at the mic.

01:20:56.266 --> 01:21:03.087
They're just like people don't get taller after being sick with covid and that was their denial.

01:21:03.207 --> 01:21:07.368
I'm like you know, that's not what we're talking about right, exactly.

01:21:07.368 --> 01:21:09.945
We're talking about it being dead and this is a body double.

01:21:09.945 --> 01:21:10.728
Yeah, who's like?

01:21:10.728 --> 01:21:11.489
No, no, no.

01:21:11.489 --> 01:21:22.893
Look, we know, with the way they say they're like, we know, without a fact, that there is no medical evidence that you get taller after being sick with COVID and everyone's like exactly that joke went over your head, dude.

01:21:23.554 --> 01:21:24.295
That's the point.

01:21:24.295 --> 01:21:25.596
How did he get taller?

01:21:25.818 --> 01:21:29.948
Part of me believes to some of these things make the most erroneous reason why it's not true.

01:21:29.948 --> 01:21:34.206
So that way, later on, if it is true, they can be like well, our reason still stands.

01:21:34.206 --> 01:21:36.859
You don't get taller after COVID, yeah.

01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:37.420
Yeah.

01:21:38.002 --> 01:21:42.972
Was it a double yes, but it wasn't because he had COVID and so like.

01:21:42.972 --> 01:21:47.365
And then PolitiFact also was like no, it's camera angles.

01:21:47.365 --> 01:21:53.162
They did a little bit better effort and they showed like photographs of different angles and all that.

01:21:53.162 --> 01:21:55.108
And, like I said, I also don't care.

01:21:55.108 --> 01:22:04.603
I guess I'd be sad if Sleepy Guy's dead, because that would suck for him to just die while being a slave to the institution that puppets him.

01:22:04.603 --> 01:22:12.042
Yeah, but uh, hustle man, maybe the man just deserves peace, you know, just deserves rest.

01:22:13.125 --> 01:22:25.550
Here's the biggest thing, though I cannot imagine being jill if sleepy guy's dead and just having to be like listen, ma'am, we need you to just freaking, hang in there a little bit what you need to think about fdr and how he was a vegetable and his wife just kept on going for the nation.

01:22:25.550 --> 01:22:33.175
That'd be tough, that would be hard to put on, that act yeah, you have to put it on for four years.

01:22:33.295 --> 01:22:38.978
Um, it's true, they're kind of doing her thing yeah, she also seems so much healthier than him.

01:22:39.338 --> 01:22:42.769
You know what I mean like in such better health and faculty than him.

01:22:42.769 --> 01:22:45.064
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

01:22:45.064 --> 01:22:48.650
Um, I don't know any thoughts before I go on to orange guy.

01:22:48.730 --> 01:22:52.305
No, I think that you know for this old smiley gal.

01:22:52.305 --> 01:22:58.168
It's surprising to watch how many people are just like all right, who's the new person?

01:22:58.168 --> 01:23:00.615
Yeah, this is the person, okay I'm in.

01:23:00.676 --> 01:23:03.533
It's not a sleepy guy anymore yeah, who is it?

01:23:03.916 --> 01:23:07.527
yeah, and they're just like well, all right, I don't want the orange guy to win.

01:23:07.527 --> 01:23:11.740
Yeah, so I'm in, I'm a white man for smiley gal.

01:23:11.801 --> 01:23:17.527
Yeah, mdm dude, it is funny, I don't care what people say.

01:23:17.527 --> 01:23:20.390
Like more power to you white guys.

01:23:20.390 --> 01:23:22.292
For smiley gal dude also.

01:23:22.292 --> 01:23:32.101
Oh my gosh, I would have eaten my gun if I was stuck like imagine you were like in a legitimate room with all the white women for smiley gal.

01:23:32.101 --> 01:23:34.407
That was rough watching that.

01:23:34.407 --> 01:23:36.551
That was rougher than the white men for smiley gal.

01:23:36.551 --> 01:23:39.770
The white women for smiley gal was like okay there.

01:23:39.770 --> 01:23:41.354
So all of them are karens.

01:23:41.354 --> 01:23:46.828
All of them are karens dancing at home in front of their zoom cameras and have no jobs.

01:23:46.828 --> 01:23:59.911
Or they do have their jobs and they're they're literally not working, so they could be on this zoom call and donate either the money they are stealing from work or the money they are taking from their significant others.

01:24:00.152 --> 01:24:01.301
Yeah, I was just like.

01:24:01.301 --> 01:24:01.724
It was the most like.

01:24:01.724 --> 01:24:03.654
I don't know, it was the most like I don't know.

01:24:03.654 --> 01:24:06.886
It was the scariest version of like.

01:24:06.886 --> 01:24:09.627
Don't get me wrong, I tell my wife she's a boss babe all the time.

01:24:09.627 --> 01:24:21.985
But there's a difference between you know your wife being a capable boss babe and then, like the Karen boss babes that you know, think they rule the world and it's all owned to them.

01:24:23.461 --> 01:24:25.087
And that's all that Zoom calls seem to be.

01:24:25.087 --> 01:24:29.630
I watched like 15 minutes of it, man, and I was like this is, this is insanity.

01:24:29.630 --> 01:24:33.690
This is worse than the Taylor Swift movie concerts.

01:24:33.690 --> 01:24:41.148
I'd rather go back to those and be surrounded by, like all the people dancing in circles having, you know, pagan sacrifices.

01:24:41.439 --> 01:25:00.690
That'd be the karen white women for sleepy, uh, smiley gal, oh yeah, no kidding, because I mean I've honestly never heard her say really a coherent or heartfelt sentence and I just and I've seen zero leadership ability.

01:25:00.690 --> 01:25:05.345
I mean makes she knows how to build roads.

01:25:05.345 --> 01:25:09.210
She makes Sleepy Guy look elite.

01:25:09.210 --> 01:25:13.845
You're right, it's in his own right, he is, but like he was or was.

01:25:13.845 --> 01:25:17.426
But just, oh my gosh, yeah.

01:25:17.887 --> 01:25:18.569
Oh my gosh.

01:25:18.569 --> 01:25:27.027
Yeah, I also am just shocked that everyone, no one, everyone just looks the other way Like there's been no counter argument.

01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:28.445
The lack of democratic process.

01:25:29.220 --> 01:25:33.287
Well, that, yeah, that's a big one the lack of not even democratic yeah, democratic quote.

01:25:33.287 --> 01:25:34.810
But, like you know, vote yeah.

01:25:34.810 --> 01:25:49.992
But I think the biggest thing is like Smiley Gal literally kept people in prison, thousands of people in prison past their excuse me parolee date in order to continue to have cheap labor to build roads in california.

01:25:49.992 --> 01:25:56.952
And I'm just like, how is no one like actually going to talk about?

01:25:57.011 --> 01:25:57.212
this.

01:25:57.212 --> 01:26:00.502
What was the melanin level of the majority of those individuals?

01:26:00.523 --> 01:26:18.274
no, that's the thing, it was 1500 of them, exactly 1500 black men incarcerated for marijuana charges that weren't felony level marijuana charges and now to be pandering to that vote yeah, which is, I think, is why a lot that was a big thing that I saw with a lot of of, you know, the black voters that were being interviewed.

01:26:18.295 --> 01:26:21.786
They were like dude, she, she kept people locked up for slave labor.

01:26:21.786 --> 01:26:24.381
You know she's a hustler.

01:26:24.381 --> 01:26:33.703
Um, all right, all that said, orange guy, orange guy, orange guys, orange guys out here doing some whack stuff.

01:26:33.703 --> 01:26:42.631
One orange guy did that whole live stream where he was golfing with that pro golfer, which was, I'm gonna say, it's pretty bitching, it's pretty badass.

01:26:42.631 --> 01:26:46.828
Like I don't even, I don't even think they talked politics one second that whole time I was just like.

01:26:46.828 --> 01:26:48.341
I don't even like golf.

01:26:48.341 --> 01:26:49.242
This is sick.

01:26:49.443 --> 01:26:57.086
You can try to not like it, but it's just, it's hard, dude, it's just, oh man, um, he did say my favorite thing from that, though, was oh, the golf.

01:26:57.086 --> 01:27:04.302
Thing the golf thing was uh, there was this part where he says like oh, he has an ipad hooked up to his speakers and his custom golf cart.

01:27:04.302 --> 01:27:06.588
Yeah, um, which made people so cringe.

01:27:06.588 --> 01:27:11.409
But it also beats like listen, that's the american dream, right there, the fact that he's 80 something and knows how to.

01:27:11.489 --> 01:27:16.898
At least I think he just turned 80, but he knows how to plug an ipad in and get music working that's a big deal.

01:27:17.078 --> 01:27:17.902
Oh yeah, and he's like.

01:27:17.902 --> 01:27:22.979
He's like, like I have the best playlists, the greatest playlists, talking in his cadence.

01:27:22.979 --> 01:27:26.610
You're too young for this, you'd never know this song.

01:27:26.610 --> 01:27:28.479
And so he played Frank Sinatra.

01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:32.997
But people took that and started memeing it.

01:27:32.997 --> 01:27:43.007
Almost the video was this is way too old for you, and then they would just put With arms wide open.

01:27:43.028 --> 01:27:51.761
Put on a creed or like somebody yeah, exactly right, nickel back, or whatever, yeah, and it was great and you know it's.

01:27:51.962 --> 01:28:08.006
I don't know it's like am I just, am I just unchangeable my proclivities, just to be like I watch that and I see that and I'm like, okay, like that's not pandering, that's just two guys having fun, and it's like, wait a second, am I being pandered too?

01:28:08.006 --> 01:28:13.622
Oh my god, maybe just like how there's a with the smiley gal, there's all.

01:28:13.643 --> 01:28:31.512
Then all these like facetime calls, like girl, you know, like, yes, like you know, we gotta, we gotta stop that guy, he, he's going to take away your you know your food stamps, like basically, like how she's talking, I mean it's like there's also been a pandering like like wait a second, it's worth evaluating.

01:28:31.512 --> 01:28:34.587
Like is the golf video just me being pandered to?

01:28:34.988 --> 01:28:35.890
I think it definitely is.

01:28:35.890 --> 01:28:36.612
I mean, here's the thing.

01:28:36.612 --> 01:28:44.382
I've known that, uh, I almost said his name.

01:28:44.403 --> 01:28:46.309
I've known that orange guy has always pandered to me Like he always has.

01:28:46.309 --> 01:28:52.529
He's your target market, I'm his target, you're his target market, like he's always pandered to the gun owners.

01:28:53.581 --> 01:28:59.894
Yeah, walking out stage with that, like I think it was a .357 Henry repeater when he first ran.

01:28:59.894 --> 01:29:02.706
I didn't see that Walk out on stage with the Bible.

01:29:02.706 --> 01:29:05.471
He's like this is my Bible, Kissing it, I love.

01:29:06.201 --> 01:29:06.706
Jesus.

01:29:06.706 --> 01:29:10.681
I read two Corinthians every day, two Corinthians.

01:29:10.881 --> 01:29:21.766
Fourteen, my favorite verse, but like all I said, like I know it's a pander, it's a pandering and it doesn't work on me Like I've never voted.

01:29:21.766 --> 01:29:24.588
I voted for orange guy twice now.

01:29:24.588 --> 01:29:27.087
The first time was eyes closed.

01:29:27.087 --> 01:29:32.229
I know I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton, so I'll just vote for whoever else that the pencil lands on.

01:29:32.229 --> 01:29:33.715
They're not an orange guy.

01:29:33.796 --> 01:29:37.207
Second time, very deliberate, like I'm voting for orange guy over sleepy guy.

01:29:37.207 --> 01:29:42.569
Um, but I didn't vote for him because I thought he was pro gun.

01:29:42.569 --> 01:29:44.734
I didn't vote for him because I thought he was a Christian.

01:29:44.734 --> 01:29:50.886
I just voted for him because I thought it was going to be the best choice for the economy and the nation as a whole.

01:29:50.886 --> 01:29:53.904
Um, so I'll, uh.

01:29:53.904 --> 01:29:59.033
That said, he did this wacky ass thing that I think now I understand.

01:29:59.033 --> 01:30:10.088
I see through the lens of it and I'm not trying to gaslight like we talked about Smiley Gal, but he literally said you know, christians, get out and vote, vote this one time and you won't ever have to vote again.

01:30:10.088 --> 01:30:13.728
I'm paraphrasing here, but this is very close to what he said, that's how it's been reported.

01:30:13.859 --> 01:30:15.667
Yeah, Well, you watch the video, right and it's.

01:30:15.667 --> 01:30:18.886
He says it'll be fixed after the next four years.

01:30:18.886 --> 01:30:20.850
We'll fix it and you won't have to vote again.

01:30:20.850 --> 01:30:30.412
And everyone's like, like, imagine, like the icon, the thumbnail of everyone, like soy jack pointing yeah, what's going on?

01:30:30.591 --> 01:30:32.484
or shocked yeah, emoji face.

01:30:32.484 --> 01:30:37.962
I also picture the uh sand people with the rifle over their head yeah, um.

01:30:38.703 --> 01:30:44.113
But uh, everyone's snapping like, oh yeah, you said the Democrats are trying to rig the thing.

01:30:44.113 --> 01:30:45.806
And then here's this guy saying he's going to fix it.

01:30:45.806 --> 01:30:49.730
And I'm like, yeah, you know, that would be bad.

01:30:49.730 --> 01:31:02.445
And if he tried to do that and stay past his term, I think there'd be a lot of people who voted for him who'd be like, well, wool's been pulled over my eyes, folks, I guess we're walking down to DC.

01:31:02.445 --> 01:31:02.935
You know what I mean?

01:31:02.914 --> 01:31:04.524
That's the wool's been pulled over my eyes, folks, I guess we're walking down to dc.

01:31:04.502 --> 01:31:04.881
You know exactly it.

01:31:04.881 --> 01:31:05.282
Uh, that's.

01:31:05.282 --> 01:31:15.350
The difference, though, is like I don't think the main demographic that votes for orange guy roll will roll over if orange guy breaks.

01:31:15.350 --> 01:31:24.712
Try to become a dictator yeah, I think that demographic will be like oh shit, you pink haired people, y'all were right here.

01:31:24.712 --> 01:31:29.551
Take this mose in the gun, I'll teach you how to use it and we'll walk on down there together, you know what I mean.

01:31:29.619 --> 01:31:31.087
Like that's how I'd be.

01:31:31.087 --> 01:31:33.868
You know, I'm like I'll eat crow the whole way.

01:31:33.868 --> 01:31:39.382
I'll teach you how to make sure your buckles are tight to not have hot spots on your armor.

01:31:39.382 --> 01:31:58.479
You know all that said, what I truly believe Orange Guy was saying here was that and it was bad phrasing, bad timing I do believe he was saying that he will fix the system like he will fix what's broken fix the political corruption Same thing as drain the swamp phrase, exactly.

01:31:59.483 --> 01:32:08.912
I think he was alluding to like if you vote this one time, we'll fix it in our four, in these next four years, that the system will be essentially clean, cleansed.

01:32:08.912 --> 01:32:23.792
You won't need to vote again because it will be a democratic process or, you know, a republic process, and we won't need you to come out and partake anymore, right, because we'll have rebalanced everything the way it should be.

01:32:23.792 --> 01:32:27.850
Um, which I get, the intention behind that and the ideas and like.

01:32:27.850 --> 01:32:28.652
That's the same thing with.

01:32:28.652 --> 01:32:35.582
Like, I mean, that's the same thing with going to like the, the muslim vote or the black vote or the immigrant vote.

01:32:35.582 --> 01:32:46.546
Like black vote, immigrant vote, christian vote and muslim votes are like and I'm talking like the true Christian, true Muslim those are always the smallest demographics.

01:32:46.546 --> 01:32:49.394
Um, the.

01:32:49.574 --> 01:33:04.585
The highest demographic turnout is people who are registered as political parties and, um, that's why they campaign so hard for the black vote, even though the black vote or the immigrant vote may end up only being like two to three percent of the total vote.

01:33:04.585 --> 01:33:15.002
Uh, when everything's said and done and counted up, that two to three percent is what sways, you know, counties, and counties are swaying states and electorates, right?

01:33:15.002 --> 01:33:15.643
Um?

01:33:15.643 --> 01:33:17.487
And then the christian and muslim vote.

01:33:17.487 --> 01:33:17.907
Same thing.

01:33:17.907 --> 01:33:21.382
Right, jews, historically, uh, turn out and vote.

01:33:21.382 --> 01:33:32.128
They actually turn out and vote pretty like consistently historically, other than, like you know, you're hasidic, you know more traditional jews, but, um, anyways, that said, I think that's what he was saying.

01:33:32.128 --> 01:33:36.332
Now, if it's not what he's saying, well, I'll tell you what, brother, right, right, we'll fix it.

01:33:36.434 --> 01:33:37.779
Yeah, give it four years exactly.

01:33:37.779 --> 01:33:44.514
And like the uh, if anything, it's at least an empty promise for politics to all get fixed up.

01:33:44.514 --> 01:33:46.122
Yeah, but but the um?

01:33:46.262 --> 01:33:57.333
but I don't think he's talking about like maintaining power I just think he knows that'd be a shot in the foot also pretty badass.

01:33:57.333 --> 01:33:59.498
You should watch this.

01:33:59.498 --> 01:34:00.381
Everyone should watch this.

01:34:00.381 --> 01:34:02.810
I'm talking to the older audit of audience.

01:34:02.810 --> 01:34:09.106
If you're out there and you were born before 1960, no scratch that you were born before 1990.

01:34:09.106 --> 01:34:11.393
You need to go out there on YouTube and type this in.

01:34:11.393 --> 01:34:14.181
I almost said the word.

01:34:14.722 --> 01:34:16.925
I don't want to get canceled for our ad revenue.

01:34:18.265 --> 01:34:28.896
Look up the name of the orange guy and then the letters X Q C and Aiden Ross.

01:34:28.896 --> 01:34:31.046
Now you're asking why am I doing this?

01:34:31.046 --> 01:34:49.150
X Q C and Aiden Ross are famous Gen Z I guess they might be millennials, but their primary audience is Gen Z and Gen Alpha and they're famous twitch streamers and everyone watches them play video games and all these kids are like, oh, excuse me.

01:34:49.150 --> 01:34:58.528
And they like take their mom's credit card and they donate money on the twitch stream to ask them questions, right, um, and these guys have huge audiences.

01:34:58.528 --> 01:35:04.381
They haven't been canceled yet for being pedophiles, like so many twitch streamers come out to be right and other stuff.

01:35:04.381 --> 01:35:15.407
Um, but they have very dedicated fan bases that are very young people who are just now turning the age to vote or maybe interested in voting.

01:35:15.407 --> 01:35:22.988
And they had trump on and trump was just like, oh damn, I said it.

01:35:22.988 --> 01:35:26.002
Oh well, this probably just laid in the like, youtube won't catch it.

01:35:26.524 --> 01:35:31.940
Orange guy said uh, he was just a human being, like, he just answered very human questions.

01:35:31.940 --> 01:35:55.899
He answered questions live from the chat and he just was like really chill and he's just sitting in a chair with like a crowd of like 10 people, 15 people behind him and then aiden ross right next to him, yeah, and like the camera is clearly just a camera on top of a computer and it's just like the most down-to-earth, relaxing and it was insane, it was weird.

01:35:55.899 --> 01:36:02.685
And all these people who are like not republicans, they are not the demographic you think that would be liking Trump.

01:36:02.685 --> 01:36:11.064
They're all like doing their reaction videos on Tik TOK and stuff like that and they're like bro, humanized him, made him a human, that's.

01:36:11.225 --> 01:36:20.548
I never seen Trump that way and after hearing him talk, he's a human and I can see, like I can see why people who have heard him in person get swept up in it.

01:36:20.548 --> 01:36:22.893
And it was, it was so weird, bro.

01:36:22.893 --> 01:36:30.525
I watched like parts of it and I was like that is definitely the most humanized I've ever seen this guy like politician, wise, um.

01:36:30.525 --> 01:36:38.813
So, lastly, there's conspiracy about him never being shot because his ears healed up so nice, like man's worth billions of dollars.

01:36:38.813 --> 01:36:47.650
Like, like you mentioned earlier, off stream, like probably got plastic surgery, um they're gonna fix them up nice yeah, I mean also, it's an ear.

01:36:49.073 --> 01:36:54.088
Ask any girl who gets her ears pierced how long it takes that hole to heal up before it's not noticeable anymore.

01:36:54.229 --> 01:37:05.310
It can it heals up quick and a crusty old man has some got some texturing, you know you got some, you know like you got some other yeah, like it, it blends in yeah yeah.

01:37:05.490 --> 01:37:15.791
So all that said um, that's the latest news of the orange guy, sleepy guy, smiley gal, um, nothing crazy.

01:37:15.791 --> 01:37:16.412
You know what I mean.

01:37:16.412 --> 01:37:21.864
But like I don't know people being fools and acting up and they say crazy stuff all the time.

01:37:21.864 --> 01:37:26.314
I guess I just try to put a dose of sanity in it all to try to like level it out.

01:37:26.314 --> 01:37:29.628
The people who feel insane, I try to help them not feel insane.

01:37:29.628 --> 01:37:33.184
And the media trying to make us feel insane.

01:37:33.184 --> 01:37:39.966
I try to make sure that, to call it out right, sure, I don't know, man, any kind of final things about those folks that you were thinking.

01:37:39.966 --> 01:37:41.854
No, man, any kind of final things about those folks that you were thinking.

01:37:42.557 --> 01:37:52.770
No, yeah, I think a lot of people feel the same way that they have the last couple election cycles, which is kind of like in some ways, the worst choice.

01:37:52.770 --> 01:38:11.976
Just have to make the lesser of two evils here, or people are just really, and that's if you're a considerate individual, you're like I just kind of gotta like thinking with your brain right, but then lots, of, lots of other people just swept up in the if you're a red flag holder waiver, if you're a blue flag waiver, you know.

01:38:12.457 --> 01:38:18.081
And then like we didn't even talk about scratchy throat guy, you know well, and like I was gonna say I think I still might vote for him.

01:38:18.440 --> 01:38:34.430
Like I'm still very much like on the fence, I'm still thinking like I'll probably vote for him, because my main thing that I've been poking on the forums on the internets is asking like, hey, internets, why would you vote for smiley gal over scratchy throat guy?

01:38:34.430 --> 01:38:44.614
And I say, uh, if, if all things considered equal and he was on the ballot, why wouldn't you vote for him?

01:38:44.614 --> 01:38:47.025
Like what policies would you not?

01:38:47.025 --> 01:38:47.606
Do you not?

01:38:47.606 --> 01:38:48.569
Like that you want to vote for?

01:38:48.569 --> 01:38:55.603
And like no one has had a good answer and everything I've read online and stuff, and like the response to my questions online on reddit and stuff.

01:38:55.603 --> 01:38:58.310
Everyone's pretty much just been like yeah, no, I would.

01:38:58.310 --> 01:39:01.185
But like it just doesn't matter because you won't have the vote voter base behind.

01:39:01.204 --> 01:39:19.246
I'm like that's why every single person's, that's what they've said, everyone and so I'm like I think I'm gonna do it because, if someone has, because then I started asking the same question to you know the conservative outlets and like like hey, why would you vote for you know orange guy, why would you vote for orange guy over scratchy throat dude?

01:39:19.246 --> 01:39:26.262
And they actually had better reasons, because I think well, better reasons for their political beliefs.

01:39:26.262 --> 01:39:38.882
Right, because I think scratchy throat guy might be a little too far left for a lot of the conservatives, whereas they prefer like more outright conservative policies that like orange guy's running on.

01:39:38.882 --> 01:39:46.282
And so with that I think like there's more I can understand the reasoning there more.

01:39:46.282 --> 01:39:53.786
But like you look at scratchy throw guys policies, like they're pretty much all in line and like the best version of a lot of the liberal policies.

01:39:54.747 --> 01:39:58.462
And I can, like I agree with his take on a lot of things.

01:39:58.462 --> 01:40:04.546
Like especially when it comes to gun ownership, he's like we, you know, making it harder to buy a gun is not going to do anything.

01:40:04.546 --> 01:40:06.350
Like that's not how we thwart gun violence.

01:40:06.350 --> 01:40:10.127
My, I am not going to take away the rights of gun owners.

01:40:10.127 --> 01:40:16.548
Like I'm going to enhance the benefit, like the opportunities for treatment for mentally ill.

01:40:16.548 --> 01:40:20.381
Um, and I'm like dope, that's exactly where I lie on that.

01:40:20.381 --> 01:40:22.756
So, like you got my vote, um, because the rest of his stuff, I'm like I dope, that's exactly where I lie on that.

01:40:22.756 --> 01:40:26.387
So, like you got my vote Because the rest of his stuff, I'm like I'm not really worried about it.

01:40:26.387 --> 01:40:27.792
Yeah, you know what I mean.

01:40:27.792 --> 01:40:31.628
I do like the idea of him making it harder for corporations to buy homes.

01:40:31.628 --> 01:40:32.851
That sounds good to me.

01:40:35.261 --> 01:40:41.210
I do like the idea that he's going to make it harder for unvetted people to be teachers.

01:40:41.210 --> 01:40:43.673
Oh yeah, that was a really cool one.

01:40:43.673 --> 01:40:51.828
I also like cause I'm not even a like big old, uh, I'm not a hostile environmentalist.

01:40:51.828 --> 01:40:57.863
I do like his policy on the environment and his plans for preserving the woods and mountains.

01:40:57.863 --> 01:41:03.048
I enjoy, Um, so I still think I might vote for Scratchy Guy.

01:41:03.048 --> 01:41:08.523
I gotta say, the orange guy taking the bullet was badass as hell.

01:41:08.724 --> 01:41:10.983
It put me on the fence there and my blood pumped.

01:41:10.983 --> 01:41:17.930
Now I'll say this like if I, out of fear, I vote for the orange guy because I don't want.

01:41:18.402 --> 01:41:19.587
And you're just as bad as him.

01:41:19.699 --> 01:41:22.864
I know, because I don't want the smiley gal to be in there.

01:41:22.864 --> 01:41:27.447
I cannot see that as being my commander in chief, the scratchy throat guy.

01:41:27.447 --> 01:41:30.784
It's a chance for us to kind of shake up the old two party system.

01:41:31.726 --> 01:41:33.340
Which we need to desperately.

01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:35.507
Something's got to get shaken up.

01:41:35.507 --> 01:41:38.385
So We'll see.

01:41:38.385 --> 01:41:42.591
We're Like 120 days out.

01:41:44.144 --> 01:41:45.046
I mean from the new pres.

01:41:45.046 --> 01:41:45.347
Yeah, We'll see.

01:41:45.347 --> 01:41:46.411
We're like 120 days out.

01:41:46.411 --> 01:41:47.032
I mean from the new Prez.

01:41:47.032 --> 01:41:49.338
Yeah, yeah, I think less, just about that actually.

01:41:49.338 --> 01:41:50.841
Somewhere in there.

01:41:50.841 --> 01:41:51.582
We're less than you know.

01:41:51.582 --> 01:41:55.048
We're less than 100 days from Election Day.

01:41:56.190 --> 01:41:56.391
Yeah.

01:41:57.373 --> 01:42:05.984
So Well, Pat, you got anything you want to sign us off with well, pat, you got anything you want to send us off with?

01:42:06.003 --> 01:42:08.309
you know, the fear can control you.

01:42:08.869 --> 01:42:27.314
Whether whether it comes in the form of a tiny little arachnid, it's rather harmless, you know I feel it controlling me right now or you know to, uh, putting all our eggs in one basket of these people who will, you know, whoever are will just get richer and more powerful while we all do our thing.

01:42:27.314 --> 01:42:59.194
Fear is not the position from which to make any decisions ever, and I think that anything we can do to eradicate fear from our lives and take a step back and really gain perspective Perspective is the main thing that frees us from fear in a lot of ways.

01:42:59.739 --> 01:43:01.344
And so it's an important thing to have.

01:43:01.344 --> 01:43:08.722
So get rid of fear, get perspective and, uh, just do stuff to enjoy your life.

01:43:10.326 --> 01:43:10.926
Amen, dude.

01:43:10.926 --> 01:43:12.529
Yeah Amen to that.

01:43:12.630 --> 01:43:17.604
That's all I got Read books, read some books, watch a mediocre TV show.

01:43:17.604 --> 01:43:21.024
Yeah, kiss your, your lady.

01:43:22.307 --> 01:43:25.472
Yep, you know, love people and yeah, kiss your lady.

01:43:25.472 --> 01:43:28.067
Yep, love people and uh, I guess until next time.

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