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well, thanks for joining us on the make a pass show.
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Uh, whatever pat decides to put before uh that we were talking about who knows, but uh, yeah, we're happy you're joining us, ken.
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Sorry we took a week off last week but, um, yeah, we're back right now and we have just a kind of relaxed show.
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Uh, gonna talk about some funny things.
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Things Talk about Comic-Con came to town and neither of us had ever been so definitely going to just kind of mention what that experience was like.
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And then I have a gift for Pat.
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See, pat has mentioned several times how AI, for some reason, when it's generating music in these videos that people are posting, it seems to be generating music with homoerotic undertones, which is hilarious.
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Nothing wrong with that, it's just funny.
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Especially with the country music, it's really funny.
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I have some AI-generating music I worked on, I rehearsed and developed and developed with friends to really try to bring you something special tonight, a couple funny stories, but then, yeah, that's kind of what we are just going to go on and out.
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Uh, pat, I did get reached out to just, by the way, to tell you this.
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I sent you know this very long video, this very detailed video on how I had jury rigged a dry fire mag for the P320 to fit the flux, oh yeah, and it's grip and all that.
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And I sent the video in an email with how I did it to the people at dry fire mag and I was like, hey, if you could make a product that could do this and wouldn't need any jury rigging like that'd be sick.
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So so now, you know, dry fire mag is hopefully going to be an affiliate as well.
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You know, as we go through that dude, Comic-Con, comic-con man you know I'm not here to be mean or dunk on anyone who likes to go to Comic-Con, because I will say like, when I walked in through the doors I was totally just big old smile on my face Seeing like the Ghostb people.
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They're set up with their ghostbuster like table booth and they're like putting the backpacks on kids and showing the kids how to do like the settings and blast ghosts, and I was like this is awesome.
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Um, there was, immediately when I walked in, I saw three armed security guys, uh, who were part of a security company out of here and they were free alarmed, not with.
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Yeah, they had gun and two mags, yeah and they they were like very professional and like polite.
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They weren't like really rent-a-cop people, right, you know um and uh, it was 25 bucks.
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It was cool and I was pretty shocked.
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There was like some big you know uh I don't know what you would say like geek nerd celebrities there that were signing stuff and doing meet and greets at tables.
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The guy who played the green ghost in um ghostbusters like the green ooze ghost that flies around is like green and slimy.
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The guy who puppeted that was there really yeah, I was like that's cool, like I never knew that guy was, but it was cool that he was there.
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So how were there?
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A lot of people there there was, easily.
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When I went, I went at like 3 pm on saturday, it was done by six.
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Right, it was going to be done by six on saturday.
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So I went way after probably like the main bulk of people went and it was still like over a thousand people, wow.
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So, and like you know, it was like our small town, like event center.
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You know, this isn't like we're not talking like San Antonio or LA here, we're talking pretty rural, um, and so it was pretty cool.
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Everyone seemed very nice.
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Um, I will say, uh, it was very hard to determine what pronouns people wanted to go by for the most.
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Like, I'll say like 20 of them were very like how do you want me to refer to you if I, if we interact?
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And then 80 was like very clearly like that's a chick, that's a dude, um, male, female and because it's comic-con, a is I don't know it's like.
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Is it a broad term?
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it is or is there an?
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official like is there an official comic-con that puts on, I think, all of it's you know?
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I mean I think comic-con is like a sponsored or not sponsored but org.
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You know, that is like sets up these things and like you apply to have a comic-con in your town or you have coordinate it and it's all volunteer based or something.
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I'm not sure.
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But comic-con definitely probably at one point was about comics and now it expanded into like covering like film, tv movies, video games, board games, you know just aesthetic of like a ton of stuff.
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Um, so all I said it was very, it was very enthusiastic.
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Everyone dressed in their like funny costumes and like doing actual cosplay like.
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I saw a couple cosplays that I was like wow, that that is straight up an anthropomorphic person like you know.
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I mean like that is a very like that's not like a plushy furry suit.
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I'm like that looks like a werewolf walking around.
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And then there was other ones.
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I was like that is to a T Jurassic Park, like a staff vest and shorts and everything and they were posing with the car.
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The other one I saw was like just people being like fantasy characters from like Dungeons and Dragons and stuff, and I was like that looks like a tiefling, like a devilish person, and it was very convincing, it was very well done.
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Like people put you know thousands and thousands of dollars into these people put hours into this.
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I was in a very impressive, I was in a customer's house and it was, yeah, like her whole basement was all that.
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Um, just, it was all bins and beads and like sewing needles and like I bet she was at comic-con rubber thing, you know, just like whatever.
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What to craft these?
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And she had these crazy suits that she was making on the mannequins, um, I think like a distant third cousin or something, who's they're like all in, or it's like they.
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That's what they do all like.
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Their hobby is building the costume for whatever the next event is, and they go, they go hard.
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That's cool.
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That's cool.
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Yeah, I did.
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It is surprising because, like if I built one, I'd wear it.
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Like if I built a master chief costume, I'd wear master chief everywhere.
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Yeah, all the time I.
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But they like build it for one event and then they just toss it or not toss it, but like they recycle it, repurpose it and they just do another one and they're like one and done.
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I'm like there's a lot of work for one and done oh, yeah, not you won't catch me doing that, but, um yeah, so some of the those are some of like the positive things.
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Dude, there was this, uh, group of military vets.
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I think they were all like from corps of engineers or something like that, but they were all supposed to be veterans, um, and they, uh, they had built the most sophisticated r2d2s I've ever seen in my life, like straight up infrared sensor and like insanely quick playback, like whatever you say they were responding to.
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And there was a part where, like I was talking, I was like, wow, this thing's insane.
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And it like responded with my voice but synthesized in under a second oh my God.
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And like the guy was like he had no joysticks in hand or anything like that.
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And he, like he showed me he had a controller to like steer it if need to be and press buttons or something.
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But he's like, yeah, it's also, you just program it to do stuff.
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And like it.
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Just like I was like wow, this is so cool.
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And it was like I was like, oh my gosh, dude, I don't remember I looked right over, it was like it was pretty cool because there's this chick who was definitely just a, a pretty, like you know, I would say, upper middle class, very attractive by modern standards, mom, and she was definitely there with her kiddos showing them around and stuff, not cosplaying, and I it was like her and I had this moment where we looked at each other from these r2d2s and both of us like this is the coolest thing I've seen here.
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That is not like kind of silly, you know what I mean.
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It was like registered in both our brains.
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That's awesome.
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The guys took a moment to show us around, like show us them and how they work, and it was pretty sick.
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All the Star Wars stuff was also like you're like oh, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, it's just kind of king.
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Yeah, the star wars is easily the king of like replicas and making.
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Yeah, I think I showed you a picture of like all the um clone trooper heads on pikes.
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Yep, that were like, those were awesome I was like this is so life-size, that was a huge display and I think maybe, gosh, I want to get a droid.
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That's just a radon monitor, like its main function is that.
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But you just like show up at people's houses with an R2 droid and it just comes in and you're like what is that?
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And you're like this is the radon monitor.
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And it's just like you can also talk to it if you want.
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All this sophisticated technology and he just monitors radon?
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Yep, he just makes my job easier.
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Yeah, technology and he just monitors radon yep, he just makes it my job easier.
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Yeah, and funner.
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It's like that bit from rick and morty's like what is my purpose?
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It's like you cut and spread butter on toast oh, my god, kill me.
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Yeah, um, but yeah, so that that was a.
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That's pretty cool, um, but I will say the stereotype holds very strong on comic con, like one of the most like accurate things.
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That like I don't even know if you can say a stereotype, if it's the truth like, yeah, I think there were like five bearded ladies that weren't makeup, like it was just ladies with beards.
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Yeah, um, and then there was definitely like the spectrum, of the spectrum primarily, you know, when we're talking like a bell curve right of you know, uh, person persons.
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There were the like obscenely overweight, really like struggling to enjoy the time there and like making it known to everybody.
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Right.
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Like I'm not having fun because I'm having to walk around and there's not enough places to kind of sit and chill, and then the like if the wind blows, you will get picked up with leaves, yeah, and blow away like skinny body.
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You know what?
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I mean, and like there was hardly anything in between.
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I'm exaggerating, right, but like that was, like definitely.
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Like you're like wow, that is the demographic, it's both ends of that, right.
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Like very rarely you find like just a average person body type you know, what I mean.
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Some words do come to mind.
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It would be like pasty honestly, no, no, no, let me correct you on that.
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Let me correct you.
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Yeah, I think there were way more hispanic and asian and indian people than there were, like white people, like I think white people were not the majority, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were, like, you know, 25, 20, you know.
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I mean like it was not predominantly pasty white people, so it'd be like pasty, if you could be like you know, like lots of like, yeah, like, lots of times.
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You know, like I I'll go in a.
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you know I'm in tons of customers' houses and things too right.
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You know, just like you and people's house and just like there is.
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Like we were in this one dude's house the other day and it was just straight up like he is in his forties in mom's basement, oh damn, with like lots of like trinkety, model type things, the things he's into.
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I bet he could talk forever about the things he's into.
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Sure, I bet he knows it.
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But those universes, he also lives in his mom's basement.
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Yeah, those things he talks about may be all fictional universe, but anyways there's that.
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People get all in, dude, people go all in.
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Yeah's.
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Uh, it was pretty sick, um, but it was also kind of like it was kind of sad, don't get me wrong.
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Like I'm gonna be 100% honest.
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There are things that I saw that I was like wow, that's really impressive, that is a real commitment to the craft, and like I respect anyone who can put that labor of love in it for a passion.
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And then I saw other things where I'm like I wish I had the courage to tell you that your life could be better if you just put some effort into it.
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You know what I mean.
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It's either multi-thousand dollar costumes or sweatpants.
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But honestly too, like I imagine if you go to PlumberCon it's the same thing.
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Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
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I imagine you go to plumber con it's the same thing.
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Oh yeah, you know, I mean, I imagine you go to plumber con.
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There's like you're gonna see people who you're like.
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Oh my god, you miserable person like someone needs to like have a intervention for you and your lifestyle lots of how much butt crack.
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Is it a plumber con?
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I mean that's I bet they take posed photos of everyone just bending over and showing their butts, just like dude someone out there like bend a plumber con and be like they know.
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they know Like on average a plumber con brings in like.
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If you could wrap like, but it's like 14 football fields of crack out of plumber con.
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I will say the other thing too was like you walk in the doors of this convention and for some reason it felt like the AC was not on at all and it was like it convention, and for some reason it felt like the ac was not on at all and it was like it went from like immediately, kind of like humid, slight, sweaty smell, and it would just go to like the most like sour, rancid, like not bathed in months smell, like it just depended what.
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Who are you?
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Who are you behind?
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yeah, it never once smelled good yeah and like I'm like, why the aren't they opening doors, like there's clearly not air circulating in this room?
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it looked like for the pictures.
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You're somewhere kind of old like a school, or it wasn't, like an event, it was, uh, it was no, it was event center.
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Yeah, it was.
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It was an activity center here in town, um that, like it's definitely age you know I mean it's not like we have a ton of huge brand new.
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It's not like it's on the university campus.
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You know what I mean for sure um, the other thing that was cool was like they just had like two giant rooms of just like anyone who wanted to sell something like get a table, come up, sell stuff, and I saw some pretty impressive like artwork that was like being done, live there and there people were selling um, and then I saw definitely just like boosts of just like 3d printed and ai generated stuff that I'm like I cannot believe someone's gonna pay 10 bucks for this yeah
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like it costs nine cents to print it.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, um.
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And then, lastly, the other stuff that I saw being sold was a ton of like writers trying to sell their books and like no one had.
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Like this is my first book.
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Like here we go.
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Like check my book out.
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I have a plan, here's my book.
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Everyone was like this is my 30th book, please buy it.
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And like you're just like dude, if, if, if you're here still peddling these books and I've never heard of you and you got 30, some book and like no one, like I was, I was walking around for a while just baiting if there's anything I wanted to buy.
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Never once was so like, oh my god, you're the author of whatever, whatever.
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And like everyone just couldn't care less.
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And I was like bro, like this hurts.
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How many of those are out there?
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There had to be 30 tables of novelists like that wow yeah and like you hear about that like insane like in la there's like behind production companies or like, yeah, production companies, or whatever.
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Like there's like just dumpster, dumpsters full of like screenplays oh yeah, never like, just like I'm sure to never see the light of day.
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Yeah, it'd be the same with books too.
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And I mean, what, uh, I could?
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I can't even imagine like being able, like I don't think I could write one book I could?
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I know I'm trying to write a book right now yeah, I think you should, I think you could, but I don't think I could.
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I I've got two, I speak in two, I think I think you could.
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I could write three sentences.
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You know, marcus latrell came out with Operation Red Wing and then the other guy who helped him write the book, because Marcus Luttrell can't write.
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Ghost Rider or whatever.
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I mean, yeah, it's like not hidden Ghost Rider, but it's literally, it's like it's called, like the memoir of Marcus Luttrell Written by so and so you know what I mean.
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It's clearly like the memoir of Marcus Luttrell written by so-and-so you know what I mean and like it's clearly Marcus's memoir, but it's very clearly also like written by this dude who's like writing down it what Marcus said, right?
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So I'm trying to find the book real quick, sorry guys, but I think that's like a very valid form of like telling a story, patrick robinson so like marcus latrell's the author right, it's his story, but patrick robinson like helped put it into words and but I and I bet some of these guys at comic-con's books were like I bet they weren't short.
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I bet there were short books too.
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But I bet there were, I bet there were a couple guys.
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I think everything looked like an average, like everything looked to be averaging, like 300 or more pages Right, Like like they've created a world.
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Yeah, If they're on book 30, you know like it's a whole.
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Thing man.
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There's one guy was selling his books.
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Oh, dude, I don't want to say cause I don't want people to like, harass him.
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Here's the thing people to like, harass them.
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Here's the thing I.
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I will never condone harassment.
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I will never condone brigading.
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I'll never condone like bullying online or you know stuff like that of like, oh yeah, let's go make fun of this dude and like his bad books.
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Now, like it's different.
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If someone's like a pedophile, then I'm like, yeah, let's go like freaking, tear them out of their house and charge them for their crimes.
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You know what I mean.
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But like some people just got nothing better than it would then be like dickheads on the internet.
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But I'm not gonna say the book series, yeah, but he was very enthusiastic about it and he was explaining to me the premise of it and it was like to me and like five other people who were standing around, because he had like snagged our attention by being really loud.
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Oh yeah, um, and it wasn't like a, it wasn't like come on, come on, it was just like hey, we were like, oh, what the fuck?
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And like he's like do you like science?
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And I was just like I was too bewildered, I couldn't do, I was a deer to the headlights, bro, bro.
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I was like what he was like just explaining how this book follows real life scientists, but in a universe where each of them received powers regarding to the scientific laws and theories that they helped pen.
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It's like Newton just like can't stand up because there's so much gravity.
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I just was looking at the artwork he was explaining it.
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I was like sick bro.
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I don't know how many people want to read about like nuclear Albert Einstein yeah, like just Albert Einstein, but he's Superman, but I mean, I don't know.
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All that said, I am very enthusiastic for those people because they're clearly passionate about what they're writing about and I hope they make it and break it.
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Because they're clearly passionate about what they're writing about and I hope they make it and break it, you know.
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At the same time, though, you just see so many other people who are just trying to scam stuff.
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That pissed me off quite a bit, because I used to do a side hustle of printing and painting stuff.
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We sold a ton of coronavirus models that we 3D printed and hand painted.
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Oh yeah, we sold them.
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Like we painted them really well.
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The the uh printing quality was really high.
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We sold them to museums during covid.
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We sold them to bars.
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Yeah, there's like some museum in the uk that is like displaying the models we printed and painted.
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That's pretty cool.
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Yeah, it is pretty sick.
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But like we charged for like hours of our time and material costs and we still were like under charging, like when we were doing certain prices.
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And I see guys out here who, like I, could see the like print supports still attached to the model on some places and I could tell it's just gonna be like a fragile piece of crap like from an fdm printer and they're like 3d printing it and like cool colors that change and like for 15 you can have this dragon for your table and I'm like just looking in my head, I'm like dude, that costs like 25 cents in filament to print.
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Yeah, sure, the printer is printing for like I don't three hours, but that's not like your work time and, to be fair, also, a lot of other people seem to be catching on to it and not buying it either.
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You know what I mean.
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There's a ton of product sitting around.
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But those are kind of the two things you saw at the booths or like the pricing stuff People very passionate about something that was very original and was very cool, even if not a lot of people were into it, and then just people who were there trying to make a quick buck and trying to pull the wool over people's eyes with stuff they were printing yeah, because lots of those the cheap 3d printer stuff is like really good for prototyping you know like it's great, you know like that.
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But like, but not for me, it's necessarily final products and I think it's great for, like I mean, we use the fdm printer when we're playing dungeons and the dragons we've printed out like terrain, oh yeah, like when you're printing out a mountain or trees or buildings.
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Like you don't need super high detail and, honestly, like the roughness of a fdm print looks cool when you like paint it up and you just put it on the table, you immediately like, oh, that's a rock, that's a tree, that's a dragon skull, you know.
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But like, we also just know, like behind the veil, that costs like pennies to print you know what I mean in materials and stuff.
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And so it's just not worth the cost for a lot of stuff that, like, people charge out there because they are charging it to people who don't know, and people are like, oh, I don't have a 3d printer so I'll never be able to buy this or get this because, like, it relies on people printing it and it's like, dude, just go to etsy, you can find the stuff like made in bulk.
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You know you could get 10 for 10 bucks, right?
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So, anyways, uh, that was cool.
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It was cool.
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They had a ton of classes that I thought were interesting.
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A lot of classes about how to make your own costume.
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A lot of classes about world building, writing books, writing movies, like plays and stuff.
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Um, screenplays, um, how to be a better game master.
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How did it do the one I really missed that I wanted to go to because I had no idea this was going on.
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I just walked in because I heard about it, so I'll sign.
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Um, there was one on how to make your like how this?