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uh, welcome to the mick and pat show again.
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Um, I will say, pat our.
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The amount of degenerates listening to this show is rapidly increasing, yeah and english speakers.
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Oh good, yeah, so um, but uh yeah, welcome degenerates.
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You know who you are and thanks for tuning in.
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We appreciate you and if you're new to the show, we refer to our dedicated listeners.
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As Ken, I see you as family and thanks for tuning in.
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We have a special, special evening because a good friend of mine and a new friend of Pat's Because I can't remember if you guys had met before in Crossing I don't think so.
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It's very hard for me to recall after all these years which friends have overlapped in the Venn diagram of events, but joining us tonight is my buddy, ty and Ty, we go back over 10 years now.
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It'll be 10 years this summer.
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They say.
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They say if, uh, you've been friends with someone for 10 years I think it's seven, I know what you're going to say it's seven that you'll end up making love to each other.
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Ooh, I'm behind there at the end.
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But yeah, Ty go ahead and introduce yourself, share whatever you like to do, whatever your job, your life is, it's really up to you, man.
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Yeah, thanks for having me on.
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I've been looking forward to this.
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This is quite the honor.
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I am a friend of Mick.
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Yeah, what did we say?
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It'll be 10 years.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, 10 years in 2025.
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That's crazy.
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Where'd you?
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guys meet Ooh.
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So Mick and I met at a.
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Summer camp.
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Summer camp yeah.
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Eagle.
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Lake Okay.
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I mean, it's so far behind us that I don't really feel like it matters.
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Yeah, so we met at Eagle Lake Camps, which is located in Woodland Park yeah yeah, colorado Springs, woodland Park.
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Yeah yeah, colorado Springs, woodland Park area.
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Yeah.
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So how I got there was I had originally applied to be a groundskeeper at this camp because I was just like at this point in my life, um, where I just wanted, uh, just kind of a fresh start, and I was like, should I work at a dude ranch, should I be?
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I was born in Colorado.
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Kind of a fresh start and I was like, should I work at a dude ranch, should I be?
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I was born in colorado, kind of grew up here, but at the time I was living in nebraska and then you were also at that point a degenerate uh, I don't know, yeah.
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Yeah, I was gonna say I don't know if a whole lot has changed, but still a little bit of a degenerate would you say you were walking with the lord before you came to?
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absolutely not, brother no um no, I very much not.
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Did not.
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Went to a um catholic high school and middle school, so I could probably at the time give you some Sunday school answers.
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Did not have Jesus in my heart for sure.
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Anyways, did not know that I was going to be working at that camp.
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I thought I was going to be a groundskeeper, like I said.
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Are you a counselor?
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I drove like 600 miles from Lincoln, nebraska, to Colorado Springs and I'm thinking, okay, cool, I'm going to get like the dude rants experience, I'm going to ride horses, I'm going to fix fence, chew tobacco and I'm going to fuck off for the summer.
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Yeah, no, no, no, absolutely not.
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I show up.
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And at first they wanted.
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They were like hey, man, we filled your position, um filled your position with a black dude from mississippi was he from mississippi, where?
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was he from atlanta, I can't remember where.
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His name was chris, and chris he's from the inner city somewhere.
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He's cool.
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Yeah, he't remember where he was from.
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His name was Chris.
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He's from the inner city somewhere.
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He was cool.
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Yeah, he was a good dude.
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He's definitely not counselor material.
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Looking back now, he was better for that position than I was, and if I was a groundskeeper, I would have never met my now wife and then a few other friends, mick being one of them.
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Yeah, so, yeah, so that's just kind of how it happened.
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Yeah, it was pretty much love at first sight, Pat.
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Mick physically assaulted me.
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Okay, so this is where he wants to start with this.
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Yeah, really, I think I'd like to start from like we're sitting there during the orientation.
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Oh, that's true.
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And like.
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Playing the human, not game.
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No, no, no, it was like the boring Death by PowerPoint presentation part.
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And it was like Eagle Lake does this presentation on, like you know how to sing the papaya song.
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No, no, no, no like this is not the joke one.
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This is like the.
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This is like if you're a pedophile, we'll make you disappear this summer.
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Like, just quit now.
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There's like they're getting serious yeah, well, it was literally like it was so hammered over and over, like it's better for you to leave than for us to find out, like if you're a pedophile, we're basically gonna kill you, we're gonna take you to the train stop or the train station you know it was.
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It was just like over and over, and I remember it was like so long and I'm like looking at like people and none of us are friends yet, except for people who had already been there, I'm like, good god, I wonder if someone here's a pedophile they're it Like how many pedophiles come to the like be camp counselors every year.
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And then, like it was right after they like were like all right, take 10.
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And you know, I'm just like sitting in my chair and looking around and just kind of eyeing people up, and then I see Ty and he's he had like a Jimmy Neutron haircut at the time.
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It was pretty like up and then curled.
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It was like a snake tunnel.
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Or tunnel snake.
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Yeah, I thought it was funny, tunnel snake, a wave.
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Well, the tunnel snake's a hairdo.
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It's a hairdo, it's your hair, bro.
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You got that stiff, dark Nebraska hair.
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Well, Mick doesn't have any hair, that's true male pattern baldness is is coming on set early.
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We don't even know if it skipped a generation I have more hair on my face than you ever will oh, also not, not true?
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yeah, exactly 100 true um, what you know, it's always just like been unbelievable.
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Like, looking at you, what you have like, like you have a hair, you get out of my feelings.
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You, you have like no like between your neck and then your your nether bits.
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You don't have any hair.
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Yeah, it's true, I have a happy trail yeah, that's all you got yeah, I am pretty squeaky clean like a baby, other than like the stray like Naked mole rat kind of.
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Like oh okay, all right, that's how you see it.
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I see it kind of as like a slick, hard plastic, like you know, ken Bod, wow, here's the thing, man, you're running your mouth a lot right now and I recall you just ogling and taking every opportunity to rub your hands across my body that summer.
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So no, but all right, no.
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So like literally, like we make eye contact and I just it's just kind of like this like nod thing, like he.
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I see he's looking at me, I'm looking at him.
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It is like one of those things that like in my head I'm like it's a little gay, but like whatever, I don't know that guy's name, that room, room beneath the dining hall.
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Dining hall.
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No, it's like the big bubble yeah, the big bubble, T-Dome and later on.
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You know, I'm still trying to figure out who actually can hang and be kind of rough and tough for the summer, Because it's like summer camp but there's a lot of people who are like weenies.
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That is Mick, down to his core Like who's gonna roughhouse with me yeah, and like we're throwing the frisbee on this hill while leaving the dining hall.
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No campers, of course, are here yet and I don't know what started at first, but I felt someone it might have not been you, it might have been, uh, one of these other guys, danny someone bumped into me like a good shoulder check shove to snap the frisbee and I was like I and like.
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Then, when it was coming back our direction, I saw a tie going for it and I just bulldozed into him down the hill and the fact that he was laughing about it and we were laughing as we were rolling down the hill in like dry shrub brush.
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I was like this is my dog, like for the rest of the summer, this is the dog and like it's this is it, it's going to be a good summer.
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You two were just like Simba and Nala, rolling down that hill.
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It really was, bro.
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It was like that yeah, just all like, oh my gosh, uh, anyways.
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So, um, oh, the chemistry, yeah, no, I mean it was.
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It was pretty much like we became buddies off from there yeah, we became buddies real fast and we're spending pretty much like every night we were just up late, either playing cards or talking on the cabin patios and just getting to know stuff, and um, I'm trying to think like what the first?
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I feel like that first weekend or one of those weekends we were like we've got cigars and when I don't know whose house we were at but we were just chilling to smoke cigars, it was just a good old boys weekend before any girls came and ruined it.
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Oh dude, mick introduced me into the wonderful world of primetimes.
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Oh yeah, that's right, I was a primetime monster bro.
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Early college age high class cigars.
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Bro, what can I say?
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I grew up on the streets, I love my grape and watermelon primetimes, oh yeah, um, but uh, yeah, and then uh, we, I really think like the the best thing was like what three weeks, four weeks into with campers.
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We got paired up with these like kid, like we were in a boy's cabin, of course paired up, and the boys were like little boys, not middle schoolers, and I think they were all like in the age range of like seven to maybe nine, like first and second graders yeah and uh, oh, man, they were just.
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It was awesome like they were.
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Like there was times where they're annoying, for sure, but it was pretty much just Ty and I got to just wrestle them, you know, I mean and like that was that was the whole week of just wrestling them until they were tired enough to nap, and then we just sit out on the patio that's definitely like the age group where they're not too cool and um yeah, so they can't read, so like it's like bible time and it's like what are you gonna do?
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like they just look.
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There was weeks where I remember one time I was, it was someone that week it was just a kid looking at his Bible, crying because he just couldn't, he didn't know how to read yet, and he was just so overwhelmed by the amount of words on the page.
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It was hilarious, dang.
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Is that a core memory for you just now?
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That just came back.
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No, I'm thinking of the Jesus.
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Jesus was good, okay.
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So I, later part of the summer I had this camper who, um, I think he got like anyways, like a, a sponsorship, um, anyways.
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Someone had basically like kind of helped him get you know, get to this camp, and he was writing a thank you card at the end of the week.
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And I still, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm still questioning if he just like pulled one over on me.
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I don't think so.
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But he wrote, uh, this thank you note and then was trying to say jesus, and it was jesus jesus every time, yeah, I just about lost my mind well, because you don't want to laugh at him and hurt their feelings like you want them to write the cards but I was like jesus.
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Jesus, how many times has it been up on the screen this week?
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There was also bro.
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You gotta tell this one, this was a good one.
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You had that middle school.
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I'm pretty sure it was middle school age camper that made the ultimate commitment to it, wasn't Gaga Ball?
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What was it?
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No, this is the same kid.
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Oh, it was the same kid, same exact kid.
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Okay, alright, now you gotta tell this story of how you found this out All right.
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So on Thursdays, thursdays was probably the most full day because campers maybe, yeah, maybe Friday, I can't really remember Anyways full of activities, full of a lot of fun stuff.
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But yes, it was during Gaga Ball.
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So Gaga Ball, what is that?
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No, newcomb, newcomb, it was.
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Newcomb that's what it is.
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I was king of the Newcomb courts at Eagle Lake.
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Yeah it was Newcomb.
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So if you don't know, for the listeners that don't know what Newcomb is, it's essentially volleyball, but you can't move and there's way too many players there's like 20 players on each side and if it comes near you and you don't hit it back and it hits the sand, you're out every like pinballs off of you and a couple other people and hits the ground.
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You're all out.
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Yeah, you're all out.
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It's kind of like dodgeball in a sense and for some reason, it's the most important thing to win to a lot of middle school boys.
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Yeah, I broke my tailbone playing nukem really yeah, because you can leave your feet, but then, like, the new position that you land in, is you where you gotta stay until the ball comes near you again?
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Yeah, uh.
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But yeah, the ultimate sacrifice was made by this kid and somewhere in between playing Newcomb, and then we went straight from that to dinner.
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Thursday night was banquet night too.
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Banquet night, dude.
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So yeah, he just unloaded in his pants, Just shit in his pants and just shit, good old to win nukem dude.
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He was not like.
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This is not a second grader.
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This must have been, oh, way too old, like sixth or seventh grade.
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Way too old, way too old for this, um, which made me kind of feel bad because I don't know, he's probably probably just more going on.
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But, dude, he's a laugh at him for it.
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Okay, we've all been there.
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You know he's probably got a college degree now.
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Yeah, if you're listening to this man, I've been there.
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Um.
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I I've been in situations where I've been prairie dogging it but um, yeah, been prairie dogging it but um, yeah, I don't know he he committed all the way.
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Anyways, it gets to the end of the night, we're all going into our bunks and I am just like dude, and this is after like we had showered and everything, and I was just like yo, it reeks, this is insane and it's I know I can smell and it's near me because I remember walking around the cabin and it would just, it would like, dissipate, it would be like you could smell it right here and then it's, you can't smell it over here.
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Then you come back around and it's, it's here, it's under, and literally like I look down, I have my headlight on, I look straight down, there's just his pair of underpants, uh, between my feet, just with that log in it.
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It was like whatever, probably like 10, 30 at night I want to say maybe earlier, but I was way too tired for this and I just like went outside, found a stick, pick, pick the pant, you know underpants up and just like threw them just outside of the cabin.
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I was just I don't even have like the tolerance or the energy to like actually just like go toss him away.
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But then I made a point the next morning to confront this kid and I was just like what's this about?
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Yeah.
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He was like nuke him, I did it, those aren't mine.
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And I was like, well, after nu, after nukem, we went back to the cabin.
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You could have, like you had like all these different chances to change you know didn't do it, yeah, and somehow like no one else, I don't know.
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so anyways, nuke, just nuke, just pants.
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Yeah for the win Wow.
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Well, I've talked about the gorilla costume on this podcast before.
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Right, you're right.
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Yeah.
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See, hey Ty, I just want to know what it was like from your perspective, like from within the cabin.
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You don't have to tell the whole story, because people who have listened have already heard the story of the gorilla costume and the whole buildup, but I just I wasn't in the cabin so I'm only Translated like what I heard from the outside.
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Um, I haven't Thought about that literally Since it happened.
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I mean, I'm sure we've probably Talked about it afterwards, but I'm trying to remember.
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Um, you had the really rough inner city Mexican kids that were from Denver, oh yeah, and like none of them brought real swim trunks.
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They just like were too cool for school.
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You had the really rough inner city Mexican kids that were from Denver, oh yeah, and like none of them brought real swim trunks.
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They just like were too cool for school.
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Yeah, yeah, do you.
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How did?
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Okay?
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Just real quick recap.
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How did you get that?
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How did you procure my campers?
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brought it up and we and.
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I was like so ball.
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And they were like, yeah, we should just run around all week this and this.
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I'm like no, no, no, no, like we get them to announce there's a gorilla loose from cheyenne mountain zoo, we build up to it and then I'll I'll put it on and run through camp and scare campers and I I didn't tell any other dude counselors other than like you and and our buddy gom, and I think you were the only two I kept in on it.
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Oh no, gum was gone, gum was fired by this point.
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Yeah I can't.
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I'm trying to remember.
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There was only like you and one other dude.
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I told about it.
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I was like, hey, I'm doing this.
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It was probably danny, and then the rest of them.
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I didn't tell because I wanted it to be genuine, but I remember, like you, had those mexicans that were too cool for school.
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I'm like, bro, I'll scare the daylights out of them.
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A couple of them were super cool, but I think I found out that one of them had a vape and I was just like dude Share.
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I was like I'm not going to report you or anything.
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I don't want to make this a thing which I totally could have got fired for that.
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Yeah, so what?
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Yeah, because that other.
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Well, anyways, we're getting.
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Did anyone cry?
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when I because I remember I was like picking up their I do remember porch and like acting, you know, sniffing them, and I was blowing on the glass definitely.
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Uh, one of my kids cried now that I'm thinking about it, which was super cool.
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It was awesome.
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That was honestly the best.
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Yeah, kids that have never really been to the woods or have seen wild animals, yeah, and then just get PTSD.
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Oh man.
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From making a gorilla costume costume it was a good time oh, man, dude, I've never been back, man not?
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once I went back a few times to do some video editing and stuff to visit some people.
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Anyways, you met your honey from there.
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I did meet Bonnie, yeah, and now you and Bonnie have a little one, clyde Clyde Nice, it's kind of weird that she named her son Clyde.
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It's kind of a you know we're not going to go there, Right, but yeah, it's been almost 10 years, yeah, basically every time I ever hung out with her besides, maybe like one or two times there was, you know, you were around.
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You also had a lady friend at the time and she's doing great.
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She's out there married with kiddos and she's very successful, yeah, um it was?
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yeah, it was.
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It was a lot of fun to because we had like a good group of friends that would hang out when we would have our 24 hours off the mountain.
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Yeah, and one of my favorite memories is we uh there was like the four of us decided to have like a late lunch on saturday afternoon oh, this is good.
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And um, we were somewhere downtown colorado springs and we were running late and I must have ran over a nail and so, like we came out to my 98 Lexus LS 400.
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Beautiful car, it's a great car.
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Rip With a completely flat tire and I was just like like, oh my gosh, and luckily uh had like a regular rim and tire ready to, ready to roll and we probably changed that tire in what?
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Two minutes?
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two minutes, yeah it was like it was crazy, it was unreal we were already late, like there was no chance we're gonna make it on time, and then, with having a flat tire, it was just like oh my god.
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But I've never had and I've had like probably three or four instances of a flat tire on someone else's car on my own, or blunt like pop tire.
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I've never had anything remotely as aligned as that.