The Mick & Pat Show - Between A Tok and A Hard Place

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I'm going to hit you with that Cubana syndrome.

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Why am I so hot and why is this sound following me?

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anywhere, havana syndrome.

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Havana syndrome.

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Cubana, we're going to throw a Havana's in Cuba.

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Yeah, I know it's like a Cubana, though is a sandwich made with like pork.

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You know, yeah, yeah, we hit you with that.

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Wait, what's the sandwich called?

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Isn't it just called a cuban?

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maybe a cuban yeah not a cubano we got some.

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I have some cubanos that need to be smoked oh really yeah, they're.

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Hey, tell me this are cuban cigars like everyone.

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Here's the thing.

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I think this is a myth.

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I don't think it's true, but people say well, I remember they said when I was in high school.

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They were like yeah, my dad's got some Cubans.

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He might let us smoke them.

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I'd be like, well, what's so special about Cubans?

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And they'd say they've got weed.

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Oh yeah, and I don't think that's true, it's not true, it's just that, it's just the quality of the cigar and the fact that there was everything from Cuba was banned, not just Cuban cigars.

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Yeah, yeah, it's like it is.

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It is very much so that, like I'd say, it's probably like 10 to 20 percent because they're good, and like 80 to 90 percent is because you want what you can't have.

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You know, I will say that I did have a Monte Carlo and I did have I can't remember the other one, but they were genuine Cubans and they were good.

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Yeah, but I mean, like I've also had other cigars that were just as good, if not better here in the US.

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Right, and the big thing too is like cigar care and how you take care of them, because if you don't, either smoke them right away or have them treated properly in a humidor, like they just don't taste the same.

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So yeah, if you bring a Cuban to Colorado and let this dry air, air it out for even a week, not properly stored, compared to just buying something like anything off the shelf at your local cigar shop, it's going to be totally different, not good, and you know.

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Speaking of wanting what you can't have and banning things, man, I've just been lately Gears grinding.

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I've been resisting the urge to buy a bunch of things that I'm afraid someday I won't be able to buy anymore.

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Yeah, me too.

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You know what's also weird, though buy anymore.

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Yeah, me too.

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You know what's also weird, though the amount of things I can have and will likely still be able to have that all of a sudden I'm kind of getting the desire for and what we're talking about here, folks, is gats, gats.

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You get any gats and if you hear a little, clicking sound in the background, it's me practicing my dry fire with my dry fire mag, which you can find on the Mick and Pat Show store.

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Hey, actually, before we get too far ahead of ourselves, welcome to the Mick and Pat Show folks.

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I'm Mick and I'm sitting here with my best friend, pat, and one of them, as established from our previous episode, which you know.

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Actually, that's the episode that you didn't upload on TimePad, which is just kind of ironic.

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Maybe you didn't want people to know.

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Oh yeah, I was hiding the fact that.

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That you said I was one of your best friends.

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Yeah, so anyways.

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He's my best friend, one of my best friends, and I took that personally.

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I'm his best friend, one of my best friends, and I took that personally.

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I'm his best friend, one of my best friends.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But anyway.

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When you put the caveat on there, it just really takes away from the power and it just cuts deep.

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What I'm saying is welcome to the show and at the makeitbassshowcom you can see that we got the store up and the store, you know it's kind of ugly right now because it's optimized for scrolling on a phone.

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So if you're looking at it on a computer or something, all the images aren't the same size and it doesn't list them out.

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There's no way to filter alphabetically and all that.

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I'm looking into some Linktree and stuff.

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But anyways, if there's anything that you think you might like and you're in the market for, such as a good method for dry fire practice, like Dry Fire Mag, which they make them for P320.

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Did you see that they now make them for P320.

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Did you see that they now make them for P320, pat, I saw that P320, glock, psa, dagger, shadow Systems, smith Wesson, m&ps I don't know if I'm forgetting any other ones.

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Oh, there's an XD one for one of the XD models.

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Anyways, they're great mags that allow you to practice dry fire without having to re-rack the slide.

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And I tell you what my dry fire reps my trigger control is insane.

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Now I've gotten so much practice on it and I freaking love this thing and it's got a really nice haptic and audible feedback as you're clicking, but if there's other things you're looking for, like green dots, red dots, hunting optic or a low power variable optic, we got those.

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I love it.

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Our shop looks like the shopping cart of a madman it's kind of organized.

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No, it's organized, it's just.

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I love it like I love that the.

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If you want some literature, that is.

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I do put the literature at top, so that way you know we're sophisticated.

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If you want some literature, that's.

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It's your audible.

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Not just.

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It's not just action thriller, it's.

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You know, it makes you think about the world, Think about yourself.

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At the same time it makes you maybe have an existential moment wondering about these things.

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You know, you can get that there.

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You can get some some, you know, heavy hitting books that will make you question your psyche.

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Also, you can get some dumb books too.

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I just put the fun dumb fantasy, sci-fi books there too exactly.

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Also, if you're someone who you know, maybe you're a sweaty man and you know, here's the deal In your car, in your bathroom, wherever you are at, if you got a little bit of situation going on, you never know when you're going to spill a latte on yourself.

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You never know when you're going to bleed on your dress shirt, Like a nosebleed.

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Yeah, a nosebleed or anything could happen, a hemorrhoid.

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Hemorrhoid Through your suit pants.

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Hemorrhoid through the back of your suit pants.

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Dude wipes will take care of it for you.

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I don't know if they're rated for getting blood out of fine linen.

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I will say that my hemorrhoids have decreased since I switched to dude wipes.

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There you go.

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You hemorrhoids have decreased since I switched to dude wipes.

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There you go.

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You heard it here, the straight face that you just made Dane I really respect.

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I thought that would break you dude.

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You heard it here folks Get your dude wipes, Get your.

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I mean, in the morning you like a little caffeine, hit, Get your Nespresso.

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If you're into you know the wild world of manufacturing your own parts for little things, get your.

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You know your 3d printer filament resin here, get it here.

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Well, also that resin, uh, that I listed there is the best rated and reviewed resin for sorry, not just the.

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The resin is the best for, um, like models, miniatures, maintaining like very clear detail and having like durable, like as durable as like your green army men.

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Um, they're also good for like mock-ups, but not like something that will be really used the, the pla, not resin, but like the actual filament that gets 3D printed.

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That is the best reviewed filaments for manufacturing parts, all right, parts that might be under a lot of force and stress, parts that might find themselves under a lot of sudden heat, quickly from an explosive force within a tight chamber.

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Cut this out.

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No, no, no, this is all legal, I'm just saying it is highly rated for those things.

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Check them out on Amazon and yeah, I thought I had.

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Oh, I have a lot of stuff on there that I put on that is for just like your consumables at the range day.

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So, get your IPSCA targets, get the tape to match them, stuff like that.

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I know I put on like things that I thought were just like.

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Oh, I do go through that.

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Oh, your batteries.

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A lot of people I know buy the optic or buy the flashlight, yeah, and then they forget to buy backup batteries.

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Yeah, we got those listed.

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How to get your batteries?

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Is this a dentist light?

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That is a light that I use, so think about this like a tiny dentist light.

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No, no, no, no, it's.

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It's a light, it's a lamp with a magnifying on it, right in an o-ring light right, and it mounts with a screw plate, uh, you with, like you know it, uh, to a desk friction mounts to desk and is great for doing anything like circuitry painting, uh, anything with like small tools.

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Anything like that requires like magnification, fine details, and here's my thing.

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I assume that everybody else who's going to buy an optic or buy a flashlight or buy a training thing for their firearm is also a tinkerer, and you're gonna have to tinker on those tiny little springs and screws.

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This is true, and, uh, it helps to have a magnification.

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I use it for painting.

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I really like to paint in my free time and relax, uh, and it helps, um, and the light's very bright.

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I just pretty much use that actually as a desk lamp.

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Now I just turn it on so I can see my keyboard at night when I'm typing, helps you find your.

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Uh, you know, yeah, I'm just saying, and if you're gonna.

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you're gonna buy stuff on amazon anyways, and here's the thing that amazon doesn't tell you If you just go to our website and open up one of those links, whatever you do after opening up that link, whatever you buy, it does kick back to us.

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Amazon just sees it as like, yeah, they went through your link.

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They might have not bought that thing, but your link is what brought them to the platform and here's a kickback for what they purchased.

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And so if you want to help out the show, please use our uh, our you know, make it pat showcom store.

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And even if you don't buy any of those, things still supports us.

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So we appreciate you, we love you, ken um.

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But with that to the main thing of the episode, which our opening conversation is how bad we want to buy gats, the clickety clacks.

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Youtube's also been censoring us hardcore.

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We apparently can't name anyone who's apparently running for president or used to be president without being banned, uh, from advertising.

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So if you look at some of our recent episodes, our numbers are super low because youtube said no, no, you can't advertise this, you can't promote the video.

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Um, and they specifically point out in time codes when we said someone who might be affiliated with the name uncle joe or orange man, and uh, apparently, if we say those and try to promote our videos, that's a no-no, we need an electoral advertising license.

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So, all that said, also being careful with the firearm terminology because those are so unpopular on YouTube.

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In Colorado yesterday the House Committee sorry, not the House Committee, the actual House of Representatives voted 35 to 27 to pass the assault weapons ban bill, and so now it goes on to the Senate in Colorado where I mean, sorry, the Senate committee where, if it passes, the Senate committee goes to the Senate, passes, senate goes to governor, polls his desk, he doesn't do anything, it becomes law in 10 days and so it's kind of a bummer.

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But what's cool was that there were quite a few Democrats in Colorado who are not saying you can't be a Democrat and a pro-gun owner.

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You definitely can, but historically the Democratic House of Representatives and Senators in Colorado don't lean that way democratically.

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But they did say they voted no because of the amount of outpouring of emails and phone calls they got from their constituents saying please do not vote for this bill.

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It will do nothing to reduce gun violence in our state.

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This bill it will do nothing to reduce gun violence in our state.

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It will only make criminals out of legal gun owners and, uh, those who, like, make their living selling guns legally and under the like, under the law.

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And I think it was like four or five democrat house of representatives in colorado who, like, voted against the party line, against the bill, which I thought was great.

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Yeah, and this day and age, typically people are riding that party line.

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They're going to be voting based off of what one side or the other is doing.

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They're just going to fall in line, and so that's interesting to see that, and see where it, where it pans out to and what becomes of it yeah, and I really want to buy more, I know get it?

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he gets.

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Oh yeah, it's uh and I think I think that might be the biggest mistake they're making is that like?

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So like, let's say, you said it's those 10 days that it sits on polis's desk.

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If it gets, there will be record sales.

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Oh yeah, everything will be sold out online yeah, and also, if you don't know, psa, palmetto state armory true freaking patriots they have something labeled in their web page as a stealth ar-15 lower.

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I don't know what the stealth part is, other than just identifying it, uh like for a searchable thing on their website.

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But it is a specific lower, just like it's not like there's still serial number on it.

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You know what I mean.

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It's not like there's anything sneaky about it, it's all above board.

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Yeah, um, all it is is a lower which is the serialized firearm of an AR, and it's just on discount.

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And apparently they've said that this is for states that are facing the gun ban laws.

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So you can quickly just type in stealth lower on PSA or on Google when it pops up it's a discounted, cheap lower.

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It's like, I think, bucks, 30 bucks.

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All right, that's the gun part.

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That's the part you won't be able to buy in colorado anymore if this law passes.

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If you buy it now, the f, atf and the you know essentially constitutional, not constitution, but like the supreme court law and all that has ruled, like that's the gun and whatever it's classified at time of manufacturing is what it is.

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And you buying the upper receiver in a barrel and a stock and a grip does not change its classification afterwards, right?

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So you buy it now, before the ban, and you can build it as you see fit and at your financial convenience in the future, after the ban.

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And by build it I simply mean you as you're, you're taking parts not to upgrade or convert it, but you're just taking parts in order to help it run safely in operation.

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Um, because otherwise it'd be very unsafe to just jam a mag in there in a lower and start walking around pointing it's not gonna work out.

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Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna work out um, but anyways, um, all that said, still hoping this state, I don't want to leave it I don't plan on leaving it.

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I would hate to leave it, so I gotta get it now and then you can be all set up for whatever comes your way.

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And you know the something crazy happened yesterday or a couple days ago, which was something that's been going on for a long time, but now it is.

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It happened.

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Which was something that's been going on for a long time, but now it is.

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It happened kind of out in the open, and what I'm talking about is.

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You know, Iran rocketed into Israel.

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I'm curious, out of my ignorance what do you mean?

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That it's now in the open?

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Right?

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We've talked about this weekly now at this point for probably the last couple months the Israel-Hamas conflict, with Iran using Hamas and other agents as proxies, right, and I'm curious to hear how this is different, right, right?

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I would say it's from my point of view and my understanding.

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I don't think it's actually any different.

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It's just because everything has been a proxy, and I think we mess up even in our US history how we teach kids.

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We teach kids about the Korean War and then the Vietnam War.

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Those weren't wars necessarily against Korea or Vietnam as much as those were wars against the ideology of communism and the wars against, um, china, right and so, and uh, um, and same could be said about lots of.

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You know you've probably heard the Iraq, afghanistan war, you know.

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Know, global war on terror.

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You know lots of people say, oh, this is all about oil, it's all about oil and for a big part of it is like, yeah, these are, you know, it's a, a proxy.

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You know, war for control in a region, for a resource, um and so and so, taking a big perspective on these things, when someone like a group like Hamas that carries out an attack, you know, or a group like ISIS or different groups, there is wars are expensive and wars take a lot of money and attacks take a lot of money, and so typically these small groups have somebody backing them, and the Hamas and Hezbollah have been.

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You know, we've known and everybody knows that they're backed by Iran, and Iran is a fan of what these groups do, what they of what these groups do, um, but now to you know, to openly, um, indirectly, attack a country, it's just, it's a there, no, it's no more proxy, it's not doing a secret, a kind of secretive workaround where they can deny it, you know.

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And the US does stuff too where you know, and lots of countries do stuff where something happens and they're able to deny it was their involvement, like, for instance, like Bay of Pigs, right.

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Sure well kind of.

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Well, the goal of Bay of Pigs was to we took a bunch of, you know, cuban nationalists and then had them, you know, trained up and then sent them over.

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And it was supposed to be just you know, and it was a disaster situation.

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But the thing was the US was supposed to have basically plausible deniability that they were involved in it.

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Even though we brought them over, trained them and then took them back to overthrow Castro, we didn't put American boots on the ground, technically See.

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Call of Duty would have me believe that we did have a squad detachment of SOF guys on the ground and Black Ops 2 or whatever.

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Yeah, and they got well, I think it was just black ops, black ops, yeah yeah, and that's name of what's the name of the game Black ops.

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Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying.

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So, so it's like you know.

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I walked into that one, and so you know.

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so, uh, you know well and like, I think even more to your point, Israel denies the.

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Well, they didn't even say they denied that they were a part of it.

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They just had no comment about the Iran embassy explosion in Syria.

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They killed two generals and there's still no way that we could prove it was Israel Right.

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Like no one Not that I care, but like, and not that I feel bad about those guys, you know, uh, meeting their fate, but it's one of those things of like.

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There is no denying that iran fired.

00:21:35.290 --> 00:21:36.314
What was it?

00:21:36.314 --> 00:21:39.580
At the end of the count, it was like up to a thousand drones.

00:21:39.580 --> 00:21:44.571
I think it was a missile, like drones and missiles, it was it was, it was less, but it was a lot.

00:21:45.133 --> 00:21:45.333
I knew.

00:21:45.333 --> 00:21:47.689
I knew it went over 200 in the first hour.

00:21:47.689 --> 00:21:49.414
Yeah, is what I heard, like it was.

00:21:49.414 --> 00:22:04.448
It was over 200 um explosive drones and missiles in the first hour that were fired at the iron dome it was a lot and so, and that's just, it's a direct attack open.

00:22:05.409 --> 00:22:06.049
It's obvious.

00:22:06.049 --> 00:22:11.056
It came from people in power and Iran said attack them.

00:22:11.056 --> 00:22:16.025
So now we're at an interesting point in this.

00:22:16.025 --> 00:22:28.960
The conflict that has been going on there has been we've heard a lot about Hamas and Hamas has been probably the main group anybody's heard of who's been involved right now in fighting in Gaza.

00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:50.105
But this race, basically the whole time this war in Gaza has been going on, there's also been a group in Lebanon, Hezbollah, rocketing over into Israel, on the northern side of Israel, and so, yeah, both these groups funded funded by you know, as well as technically in the west bank right is that the Gazan?

00:22:50.144 --> 00:22:50.905
like west bank.

00:22:50.905 --> 00:22:53.069
So when we say west bank, so so.

00:22:53.270 --> 00:22:57.903
So, west bank, and it's the when you.

00:22:57.903 --> 00:23:01.086
West bank refers to the western bank of the Jordan river.

00:23:01.086 --> 00:23:04.888
Oh, so that can be the confusion.

00:23:05.169 --> 00:23:07.030
So that's also the.

00:23:07.030 --> 00:23:13.836
You know you have the Mediterranean on the furthest west side, but it's not that west bank.

00:23:13.836 --> 00:23:21.832
Right, the west bank on the Jordan River splits the border of Jordan and Israel.

00:23:21.832 --> 00:23:24.259
Yeah, but the west bank is Palestine.

00:23:24.259 --> 00:23:25.561
That's like.

00:23:25.561 --> 00:23:37.729
Most Palestinians live in the West Bank, on the east side of Israel, and there hasn't been a lot of fighting or anything On the West Bank, in the West Bank.

00:23:38.730 --> 00:23:39.132
Lately.

00:23:40.354 --> 00:23:43.309
Right, and usually that's, and there hasn't been like full-scale war going on.

00:23:43.309 --> 00:23:47.663
There's always little flare-ups and conflicts, but they kind of can pop up.

00:23:47.663 --> 00:24:36.722
But but the on the northern border, which is the Golan Heights, so north of the of the Sea of Tiberias or Sea of Galilee, the same thing is where the Golan Heights are, which that's where Israel and Lebanon have been and Syria have been kind of jockeying for control and power over years, and it's kind of a no man's land up there, and so that's where Hezbollah from Lebanon has been rocketing into the Galilean area in the north and then on the west coast, you know kind of southwest, is where gaza is, um, and that's where that fighting's been going on, so lots, so the there's been a more at play than just gaza happening there's been, you know.

00:24:36.722 --> 00:24:47.111
So hamas is kind of like small potatoes comparatively to hezbollah, and hezbollah is a pretty big organization with lots of power.

00:24:47.340 --> 00:24:50.571
Hezbollah is essentially in charge of the west bank right?

00:24:51.113 --> 00:24:52.057
um, nope, they're.

00:24:52.057 --> 00:24:52.719
They're only.

00:24:52.719 --> 00:24:57.349
Hezbollah is not in israel, they're in lebanon to the north sorry, not in israel.

00:24:57.410 --> 00:24:58.332
Yeah, okay, all right.

00:24:58.332 --> 00:25:00.883
Who's in jordan?

00:25:00.883 --> 00:25:01.983
Is it hamas?

00:25:02.003 --> 00:25:13.809
that's um, jordan really, really doesn't have a specific terrorist group that has control, governmental control, right like how Hamas has governmental control in the West Bank.

00:25:13.809 --> 00:25:20.942
Hezbollah has heavy governmental influence In Lebanon, in Lebanon, okay, and then in Jordan.

00:25:20.942 --> 00:25:26.053
Jordan kind of stays as middle of the road as they can.

00:25:26.053 --> 00:25:40.049
They are kind of the Switzerland of the area, and not because of the fact that they share this border directly with Israel and then they share a border directly with the rest of the Middle East.

00:25:40.049 --> 00:25:47.162
They're kind of this little tiny buffer zone that whatever crap happens, they is in their backyard and so they got to deal with it.

00:25:47.162 --> 00:25:52.271
So, um, not a lot of attacks come from jordan.

00:25:52.271 --> 00:25:54.021
In the past there have been wars.

00:25:54.122 --> 00:25:55.265
Yeah, I remember the award.

00:25:55.265 --> 00:26:01.063
Yeah, the seven day war was the big one that I was thinking of, which is why I was kind of confused geographically.

00:26:01.063 --> 00:26:03.765
But that, okay, all right, so your explanation totally tracks with me.

00:26:03.765 --> 00:26:16.462
Um, but wasn't there an iran israel conflict that bloomed into a brief war in the 19, like 70s, 80s or something like that?

00:26:16.462 --> 00:26:28.084
I I'm trying to remember because this isn't the first time it's been like that's iran shooting missiles at Israel, israel shooting back Right With the in the.

00:26:29.708 --> 00:26:35.825
I'm trying to think specifically there because there's been so much, you know, turmoil for so many years, yeah, different infighting and stuff.

00:26:35.825 --> 00:26:45.407
But, you know, because Iran geographically is not located that closely to Israel in comparison, you know, they have a pretty big buffer.

00:26:45.407 --> 00:26:50.469
They've got, you know, they have Jordan and Iraq and kind of Syria on the north.

00:26:50.469 --> 00:26:52.902
That is a buffer zone between the countries.

00:26:52.902 --> 00:27:02.888
So that's what that's why, like, the attack on Israel didn't come out of straight out of Iran, it came out of their bases that they have in other countries, you know.

00:27:02.888 --> 00:27:13.768
And so the and Iran has just strong influence in spots like Syria where they're able to get closer in.

00:27:13.768 --> 00:27:23.730
And so, yeah, where Hamas is kind of small potatoes compared to Hezbollah, hezbollah is real small potatoes compared to the country of Iran, iran, yeah Right.

00:27:23.730 --> 00:27:28.531
And so now this is just an even greater escalation in the situation.

00:27:28.531 --> 00:27:40.171
And so during this rocketing, you know, there was multiple countries that helped shoot all these rockets out of the sky and only a handful which is what is the RAF?

00:27:40.819 --> 00:27:42.405
I saw that being mentioned a lot.

00:27:42.405 --> 00:27:44.580
The RAF, it said.

00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:51.539
With the help of the US and the RAF, the Iron Dome managed to keep everything from actually landing on the ground.

00:27:52.102 --> 00:27:54.208
I don't know what that acronym stands for.

00:27:54.208 --> 00:27:54.730
Right there I can.

00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:58.480
Too many acronyms to keep track of out there in the world jail.

00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.705
Take them to jail.

00:28:00.646 --> 00:28:02.586
I'll look it up look it up real quick.

00:28:02.586 --> 00:28:09.519
So Israel's Iron Dome system is super capable and powerful.

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:26.608
But there was other countries that were helping out with putting all these rockets down and only a handful made landfall, and of those there was um no reported casualties.

00:28:26.608 --> 00:28:30.315
Royal Air Force, britain, oh, royal Air Force, okay, yeah, yeah, cause it was Brits.

00:28:30.315 --> 00:28:32.607
I think France might've been helping out too.

00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:37.148
I like 10 British listeners like oh, I would go fuck my yeah yeah, so uh, okay.

00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:47.409
So, yeah, but the issue was getting a lot of help and no, I think it's incredible that no casualties happened.

00:28:47.409 --> 00:28:51.886
Now I'll say, let me rephrase too no casualties were reported.

00:28:51.886 --> 00:29:40.593
Because one thing is, if you look at the map where all the rockets came in, going back to where we were talking about the West Bank, there was a lot of rockets coming in kind of into the west bank, oh yeah, palestine, which is where um, and so I wonder if and I don't know, we'll see too where, like, there could have been some palestinian families that got smoked by the, by the iranian rockets that israel's not reporting on right yeah so some of that could have happened, but for the most part for, for you know from the reports, no reported casualties is pretty incredible, but said estimated that a billion dollars was spent to defend that attack, and so that's insane.

00:29:40.613 --> 00:29:45.891
talking about the expense of war where, you know, this only happened for a few hours, it wasn't like a multiple day or week barrage.

00:29:45.891 --> 00:30:08.876
So if Iran's able to continue this kind of keep their weapons payloads at, you know, keep their stocks up, probably via, you know, russia, china, who, like you know, and if China's supplying these things, then they have a serious amount of firepower they can keep hucking over.

00:30:08.876 --> 00:30:21.057
This could be, you know, sort of a siege-type situation where, if they keep doing something like this, you could bleed out the coffers pretty fast on how much that war could cost.

00:30:21.326 --> 00:30:24.506
You got to think how deep are the pockets of like?

00:30:24.506 --> 00:30:26.452
How deep does the pocket of missiles go?

00:30:26.964 --> 00:30:28.109
How deep does the pocket of?

00:30:28.170 --> 00:30:31.894
you know bomb drills Like yes, it costs a billion dollars to deter it.

00:30:31.894 --> 00:30:35.855
How much did it cost to get those things there to fire?

00:30:36.988 --> 00:30:41.453
And I was trying to look that up and nobody out there, I couldn't find any good estimations on it.

00:30:41.453 --> 00:30:48.291
I bet it was considerably cheaper, just to like I don't know.

00:30:48.332 --> 00:30:49.013
I think about the.

00:30:49.013 --> 00:30:56.651
The russian, like russia's, has to manufacture, build them, ship them right to iran.

00:30:56.651 --> 00:31:05.357
Iran has to ship them in to oh yeah like you know it's big cost feasible, and I I mean, yeah, it's probably cheaper than a billion dollars, right?

00:31:05.865 --> 00:31:32.337
But those nations also don't have just a billion dollars to wax over one night like the US, israel and England do, right exactly, I still say England, I know it's the UK, yeah, come over here and make me come over here and make me call you the uk, um, but anyways, uh, all that said, uh, I did find it fascinating.

00:31:32.337 --> 00:31:35.790
I do always love to watch videos of the iron dome at work.

00:31:35.790 --> 00:31:36.996
It's incredible.

00:31:36.996 --> 00:32:05.738
It's like it is one of those things that feels like it's straight out of a sci-fi movie and like when you see stuff in some sci-fi movies that are just like oh yeah, like look at this grid protecting the whole globe from this, you know, alien invasion, and like some people like yeah, whatever, I'm like no, I don't look like that could, like you give us 500 years, I'm sure we'll have some kind of space grid shooting asteroids and junk out of this, like out of orbit, before it gets too close.

00:32:05.738 --> 00:32:08.028
What's the one from Star?

00:32:08.068 --> 00:32:08.750
Trek called.

00:32:08.750 --> 00:32:10.756
I don't know, star Trek has one.

00:32:11.144 --> 00:32:13.795
I was just thinking of the one in Ender's Game.

00:32:13.795 --> 00:32:15.569
I just remember that they had the space grid.

00:32:15.569 --> 00:32:24.917
But anyways, it's just mesmerizing to me to see that system at work and working so efficiently.

00:32:24.917 --> 00:32:35.959
But I don't know what are your thoughts If you could, really without no consequence, I'm not going to get you gotcha.

00:32:35.959 --> 00:32:39.394
What is your speculation going?

00:32:39.433 --> 00:32:42.112
forward on this, On what's going to happen.

00:32:42.192 --> 00:32:53.069
Yeah, I mean you and I we've realized you and I watch just the same stuff YouTube just feeds us the same thing at the same time, and so I'm just wondering like based off of what we've watched.

00:32:53.069 --> 00:32:53.833
What's your spec?

00:32:53.984 --> 00:32:54.105
When.

00:32:54.105 --> 00:32:56.634
That's where, like you know, we spoke.

00:32:56.634 --> 00:33:23.824
When Hamas attacked Israel back in October, we came on and talked about it and Israel went into Gaza and they're still fighting in there, right, and it was one of those things where I was like it'll probably be done in like three days or three weeks, you know, but I was wildly wrong on that one right Do you remember what my spec was, mm-mm.

00:33:24.484 --> 00:33:34.920
My sign-off spec with that was it'll be a proxy thing until Iran's name is written on the shit they fire over.

00:33:35.299 --> 00:33:35.601
Oh yeah.

00:33:35.684 --> 00:33:37.911
And then we'll start seeing nations saddle up.

00:33:38.271 --> 00:33:41.490
Oh yeah, and so that's where I'm not as confident about that now.

00:33:41.490 --> 00:33:45.626
But I still I mean iran.

00:33:45.666 --> 00:33:54.019
Finally did it, signed with love and uh, and they sent it in and they who?

00:33:54.059 --> 00:33:55.207
knows what's gonna happen now, dude.

00:33:55.207 --> 00:34:12.141
They took the next steps and israel isn't really one to back down from too many fights, and they don't have to, typically, because they have the backing of the big superpowers, particularly USA.

00:34:12.141 --> 00:34:24.228
But what's happened now is there's reports that Uncle Joe called Netanyahu and he said take the win, meaning you know that they were able to defend themselves from this.

00:34:24.228 --> 00:34:25.811
Nobody died, you know.

00:34:25.811 --> 00:34:28.717
Take the win, move forward.

00:34:28.717 --> 00:34:31.068
You know, without you know, retaliation.

00:34:31.068 --> 00:34:41.717
And also, I think you may have been referring to take the win, maybe of those two generals getting taken out, or not you know whether or not Israel's a part of that or not?

00:34:41.918 --> 00:34:52.108
Yeah, but then the other thing that old Joe said was the US will not support Israel in the attack, in the attack of Iran.

00:34:52.168 --> 00:34:55.054
So you, know, let's see if that wins many votes.

00:34:55.635 --> 00:35:05.878
Right and so, and I think and I to be more specific about what he said it was more of like a we're not putting boots on the ground with you, right and so.

00:35:07.445 --> 00:35:09.867
Let's be real, that's complete malarkey.

00:35:09.867 --> 00:35:23.076
You know, if it stopped being an Iran-Israel thing, if this went from Iran like, let's say, israel retaliates again or they don't.

00:35:23.076 --> 00:35:37.594
Then Iran and Pakistan hop in on it, and then it's Iran, Pakistan and a little bit of some of the other guys and maybe a little bit of RU.

00:35:45.284 --> 00:35:53.112
But you know, without a doubt, America's like all right, I ain't missing out on an opportunity to skin my knees up in this game, and that's what the one thing we did talk about when when this whole thing started in October, was.

00:35:53.112 --> 00:36:12.911
We talked about how the you know, the big industrial complex that makes a lot of money off warfare was, you know, wetting their britches in a good way and excitement at the fact that they were about to have a lot of money made.

00:36:13.224 --> 00:36:14.570
I bought Raytheon and Lockheed.

00:36:14.971 --> 00:36:15.873
Yeah, Sue me, baby.

00:36:15.873 --> 00:36:17.769
And so I foresaw the future.

00:36:17.769 --> 00:36:37.824
Yeah, Cause you know they're getting a fire it all up, and so like between Ukraine, um war.

00:36:37.824 --> 00:36:39.670
You know they're getting to fire it all up, and so like between Ukraine war.

00:36:39.670 --> 00:36:40.954
And then now you know what's escalating in the Middle East.

00:36:40.954 --> 00:36:47.112
We have money's going to drive it, and so you know, and Israel does have some form, look like to like, are they going to do a sold our soldiers going to go invade iran?

00:36:47.112 --> 00:36:49.601
Right, like that's a tall order.

00:36:49.681 --> 00:37:00.010
I feel like that's israel, just ain't got that kind of right that kind of force, but they do have like the ability to fly a jet over there and drop something right.

00:37:00.010 --> 00:37:02.896
So like there's like you know, what are they gonna do?

00:37:02.896 --> 00:37:06.009
I honestly have no idea, but I do think it is.

00:37:06.009 --> 00:37:25.989
It's a it's a hot, hot situation, like the fuse is not lit, but the fuse is like it's kind of you ever light a firecracker and it's like just that moment right before, like like the tip of the fuse is burning but it hasn't gone yet.

00:37:25.989 --> 00:37:30.338
It's just starting to like smolder and it's just about to the lighter's up against it.

00:37:30.338 --> 00:37:31.608
I think we're right.

00:37:32.068 --> 00:38:06.701
It feels like we're right there on the next thing you know coming through I have a movie that I'm actually going to send you to watch so that way you can watch it and we can discuss it, does it probably won't need to be a bruising reviews, because I do think you will just absolutely love it, and it's a two thumbs up for me for the movie um and it's a called uh by dawn's early light, and it was a movie that hbo made about russia, us nukes and like the whole, like trying to stop it before it goes any further.

00:38:07.726 --> 00:38:56.092
And I think the thing that makes the movie terrifying is that you see the US government and what is still alive of it attempting to communicate with all of their forces and bombers in the sky, communicate with the Russian president of their forces and bombers in the sky, communicate with the russian president, and you realize that this is not the firecracker going off, that these first two, three dozen nukes that have gone off across each country is just the fuse, and that this is this whole thing is designed so that way these things blow up and like these first nations, these first not nations, these first cities and stuff get hit in order to buy time for them to come to a ceasefire and the whole thing is like.

00:38:56.273 --> 00:39:00.588
I think a lot of people think like, oh, we got to stop it before it blows up.

00:39:00.588 --> 00:39:06.204
It's like, no, no, no, no, if the fuse gets lit lit, we're taking casualties.

00:39:06.204 --> 00:39:12.434
And like serious casualties, if it blows up, it's end.

00:39:12.434 --> 00:39:13.898
Oh, it's game over.

00:39:13.898 --> 00:39:17.509
There is no like, oh, blew up, man, that sucked.

00:39:17.509 --> 00:39:20.193
Well, let's stop another one from blowing up.

00:39:20.193 --> 00:39:26.487
Like if it blows up we're talking holocausts of humanity levels.

00:39:27.469 --> 00:39:57.588
Um, but anyways, one thing I will bet on is that the lyrics to war pig ring true right now, you know what I mean and I, I guarantee you, there are generals gathered in their masses and you know that there are, for sure, machines that are turning, ready to keep on rolling, and I, uh, I don't know, man, dude, it's weird when, like in this environment, that song just screams in my head like it's just so.

00:39:57.588 --> 00:40:00.871
It feels so real right now, um, but anyways, um.

00:40:00.871 --> 00:40:08.496
It feels so real right now, um, but anyways, um, pretty crazy stuff, um, I also sent you this video, um, who's it?

00:40:08.496 --> 00:40:10.197
I can't remember the org that it was by.

00:40:10.197 --> 00:40:28.900
It's by, like that Christian news organization, cbn, yeah, but like, uh, that Arab, uh, lebanese leader, sorry, that Christian Arab, lebanese leader was assassinated by Hezbollah, which I thought was kind of a little like, keep your eyes on the prize, I guess.

00:40:28.961 --> 00:40:31.990
Like, aren't you guys trying to focus on Israel?

00:40:31.990 --> 00:40:41.673
So why go after this dude in Lebanon and potentially get like a Lebanon anti-Hezbollah rival rivaling going up, right?

00:40:41.673 --> 00:40:43.217
Well, I think you know again.

00:40:43.217 --> 00:40:45.708
I'm just yeah, it seems weird, it seems kind of like a.

00:40:45.708 --> 00:40:51.769
It seems like a FU, fu, fu, definitely FU.

00:40:51.769 --> 00:40:53.114
You're cool.

00:40:53.114 --> 00:40:54.097
You know what I mean.

00:40:54.137 --> 00:41:29.744
Like and like it seems like bad strategy, right, and I think that like, like, that's why a lot of these groups never have good to just, you know, unite their country or whatever.

00:41:29.744 --> 00:41:46.621
Lots of goals, you know Hamas, hezbollah, isis, you know the goal is in their mind and in their deepest hope is to reestablish the caliphate that once was over.

00:41:46.621 --> 00:41:52.856
You know the Middle Eastern world was once the pinnacle of of the earth.

00:41:52.856 --> 00:41:56.978
It was where the universities were, where it was like technology was coming out of.

00:41:56.978 --> 00:42:00.550
You know, like, uh, ottoman empire type stuff, where they were super powerful.

00:42:01.110 --> 00:42:21.054
And then the caliphate is also an oligarchy which is driven by religious motives as well, and so part of their mandate is not just to be a good, isn't to be a good Lebanese person or a good Syrian or a good, you know.

00:42:21.054 --> 00:42:27.228
You know, whatever your country is called these days, you know they're driven lots of.

00:42:27.228 --> 00:42:37.449
You know Muslim extremists are driven by an ideology that is to reestablish Islamic caliphate, islamic ruling over all around them.

00:42:37.449 --> 00:42:50.717
And so when you have these, so when you have these Christians who stand against the tenets and the beliefs of these Muslims, they are a threat.

00:42:50.717 --> 00:43:06.606
In Lebanon, kind of recently too, there's been sort of a wall you have like stricter.

00:43:06.646 --> 00:43:07.548
Sharia law coming into place.

00:43:07.548 --> 00:43:09.454
You've also had more people rebelling, like you know, women like, like it's just crazy.

00:43:09.454 --> 00:43:18.887
Like like when, in lebanon, you've had women in the street, like uncovering their heads, which is a big no-no and my god, what I know right, but like gathering.

00:43:18.887 --> 00:43:23.197
So what's first of all like, and it's for us it's like so hard to understand.

00:43:23.317 --> 00:43:42.492
This is crazy, but like this is beyond what you mean, though, but I saw, like the mass, the mass female protests of like tearing their hijabs off Yep, and then I was like you know, but to take it even further, like women got more cojones than me and they're not allowed to be, in some cases, like you know, culturally not allowed to be, in some cases, like you know, culturally not allowed to be out without a man, not allowed to do this.

00:43:42.512 --> 00:43:52.630
But also there's been women gathering and worshiping, like christians worshiping jesus in the streets.

00:43:52.630 --> 00:44:01.251
Yeah, and that big no stands in the face and flies in the face of of what sharia law you know stands for.

00:44:01.251 --> 00:44:10.231
And so, yeah, this guy who got assassinated I don't know if it's the same guy or not, but there's been a couple Christian leaders over there who have been long before this.

00:44:10.231 --> 00:44:13.231
They've been targeted, they've been jailed.

00:44:13.231 --> 00:44:40.692
It's been something that's been going on where Christian leaders have been being jailed or tortured or disappeared and different things like that, and so it feels like this is kind of, you know, they are just, they're being emboldened on every front right and because of the lack of, you know, good show of force from the powers that have kept them at bay, they're getting emboldened all over.

00:44:41.485 --> 00:45:15.668
That's what you see throughout the middle eastern world and and within the you know, you see, you see those that video of like, like a million people standing in the street in yemen, like chanting death to america oh yeah it's like it's like holy smokes, like it's just like very emboldened like you see the one in new york, in chicago, that had like 200,000 people chanting death to America and they explained why, like the speaker, literally explained why we chant death to America, and then everyone started chanting death to America.

00:45:17.411 --> 00:45:21.139
Crazy and guess what you get to.

00:45:22.347 --> 00:45:23.913
I love my country because you could do that.

00:45:23.913 --> 00:45:25.947
You get to like no one comes to execute you.

00:45:25.967 --> 00:45:29.775
Yeah, we don't mow you down, you know I try that.

00:45:29.775 --> 00:45:31.306
Try doing the opposite.

00:45:31.306 --> 00:45:38.445
Try burning their flags in their streets, try speaking out against them, of speaking out against oppression.

00:45:38.445 --> 00:45:39.045
See what happens.

00:45:39.045 --> 00:45:58.277
It doesn't end as well for you, because we've got a pretty good system here and we have amendments to our constitution, and those amendments help keep us safe, true, um, and so you know the biggest ones we always talk about.

00:45:58.277 --> 00:45:59.358
They always in the news.

00:45:59.358 --> 00:46:04.490
First amendment freedom of speech, like getting to, you know, rally.

00:46:04.490 --> 00:46:13.561
You know there's a right to protest, a right to gather and a right to say what you will without being, you know, persecuted for it legally.

00:46:13.561 --> 00:46:26.929
But the Second Amendment allows you to protect that First Amendment right by having arms.

00:46:26.929 --> 00:46:39.961
And then we have another one that we just don't talk about very often and it's not in the news a lot because it feels actually really outdated as far as the way we learned about it in school.

00:46:40.202 --> 00:46:42.003
That's the Fourth Amendment right.

00:46:42.224 --> 00:46:44.273
Well, pat, what is that?

00:46:44.273 --> 00:46:46.829
I remember in school.

00:46:46.829 --> 00:46:51.958
The First Amendment is freedom of speech and religion and freedom of the press.

00:46:51.958 --> 00:46:54.170
Weird that they put it all in one.

00:46:54.170 --> 00:46:57.773
I would have felt I really think those should have been the first.

00:46:57.773 --> 00:47:01.994
Freedom of speech, religion, that's kind of the same thing.

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Freedom of the press feels like that should have just been its own amendment.

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