The Mick & Pat Show - Arachnids, Big Pharma, The Olympics

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So Billie Jean does this thing where she chops onions wearing some goggles from a Halloween costume, from science class, no, but she also wears this green t-shirt every single time she needs her hair to dry after taking a shower and, uh, I have this video.

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I want to show you that I took earlier today because I, uh, I thought she, she looks like lisa, like Lisa.

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Nalgaib, she does.

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She looks like the chosen one.

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Yeah, isn't that crazy?

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But that's because when she chops onions, they make her cry so bad they get to her.

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Huh, but isn't that funny.

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Oh my gosh, she does look like she's in.

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Couldn't hear too well, because I was, you know, playing music on my phone that loud but I was pointing at her and yelling Lisa Nagaib, lisa Nagaib.

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Anyways, welcome to the Mick and Pat show.

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I'm Mick and I'm Pat, yeah, and we got just another good old regular Apple show for y'all.

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We just recently wrapped up our East of Eden dog your dialogue series four parts there.

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So if you love that book, go check that out.

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If you haven't read that book, don't check it out yet.

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Um, honestly, save, save the reviews for as you finish each part of the novel, because we will be in spoiler territory.

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But I'm pretty proud of it.

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I thought we did a really good job.

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I feel like we, you know, definitely had um great discussions and points and there's things that you know you found in the literature that I found interesting and, you know, was kind of insightful to me and I hadn't thought of, and I don't know.

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Hopefully, vice versa yeah, definitely, the uh book was full of a lot, of, a lot of, a lot of common life things, a lot.

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But like that and like we spoke about when we did our breakdown of it, and it's very relatable, but through this kind of crazy story and so I enjoyed it I'm wondering what book to read next for us to do.

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Yeah, I'm trying to find one.

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I kind of want to, I kind of want to you know we did such literary you know, not capstones but cornerstones that maybe it's best to just find another good book we enjoy.

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That's like, I don't know, sci-fi or horror.

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That we can do in like a one-parter yeah, and also it doesn't have to be like a discussion on the condition of man you can just be like yeah, wasn't that sick, yeah, yeah, wasn't that scary.

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Ooh, what if we read like one of the smut novels that girl's like I'm just kidding.

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I can't do it.

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I can't do it.

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Dude, papa Meat.

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He's a.

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He's a YouTuber.

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For anyone who doesn't know him, his name is Papa meat Very, very coarse and vulgar humor.

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But there's something about him that's kind, you know.

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This is just something about him that's like very easy to like, disregard how vulgar and coarse the joking can be.

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Um, but he just did a video where he's reacting to essentially all of these reviews from like smut talk and all that from like the.

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There's like on tiktok there's a section that's called book talk and then out of book talk came smut talk.

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Right, and it's just all these girls talking about like they're like literally just having ai read these like super vulgar spicy scenes that are like I mean like literally, like there is.

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There's no way you can ever pretend it's not just like you know, literary porn.

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Like it's so vulgar.

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There's like one of the most common ones right now, one of the most popular books, is like this a crown of quartz and roses or something like that, a crown of court and thorns yeah, and a series yeah, it's a series but like I didn't know, it was like freaking it's a bestiality book.

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It's a book where, like, the love scene has to do with like having sex with werewolf guys and like their claws doing stuff.

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You know what I mean and I was just like I know people who read that, but you know I mean I'm just like my god, like what are you doing, bro?

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there's always been like the like paperback romance novel like type, like crowd and things, but then like really, like you know, however many years back, like 50 shades of gray thing, kind of busted it wide open, yeah, and and made it like commonplace and for some reason like commonly acceptable normalization of pornography so I don't care who you are.

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If I see you reading smut, I'm gonna make fun of you.

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The same way I would make fun of someone who like especially if you're a dude.

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I mean, if you're, I think I'm gonna make more fun of you as a woman, because I think a lot of women think men don't realize what it is, oh yeah, whereas, like, we all know what's going on if a guy's headphones aren't in all the way, or if they disconnect and we just hear him like watching porn.

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Everyone's like okay, like point and laugh at him.

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But like I'm just going to start like teasing people about it, Like oh really, You're going to do that here in public, yeah, that's disgusting, Like go home.

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Anyways but dude, I don't know.

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Yeah, what were we talking about?

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Anyways, go back out of there, but, dude, I don't know what were we talking about.

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Anyways, go back out of there.

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We're talking about dog-eared dialogues yeah, dog-eared dialogues and all that.

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We won't read Literatica.

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If we do, I'm going to read it out loud, I'm going to force everybody else to endure it, but there's a couple like I don't know.

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There's a couple books on the docket that I've been wanting to read that, I think, would be good oners, but you know who knows.

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Speaking of that, though, and all that being said, you had a what do you want to start with today?

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I think that we need to start with the spider incident.

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I think we could.

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I think we'll start with the spider incident, because I haven't laughed that hard in a long, long time yeah, that wasn't that funny for me bro.

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So, um, and I don't know, you know, if we had two, we both had two very different uh uh scenes of what happened, because last week, leaving the studio, what the hell is that supposed to mean?

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I'm supposed to like, are you saying?

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my experience isn't valid.

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No, it's not valid.

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Just what?

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What you were going through and what I also.

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What I witnessed and what was happening was just different and so okay, all right, you know like, because I can't wait for you to gaslight me in my trauma, just because I didn't know what was happening.

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I I didn't know, like, what had happened, until I can't wait for you to be like.

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You know, I didn't see any spiders or spider webs but, um, uh, leaving the, you should tell what happened to you Okay?

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well, there's this janky ass awning over the door to the studio that honestly.

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Pat should just take a you know, butane torch to clean up.

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But it's got so many spider webs in it.

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You know, it's a classic like if you live anywhere in a city where there's awnings going over a doorway and it doesn't get cleaned regularly.

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If you look up you just see like it's just filled generations.

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Yeah, it's filled with decades of dead bugs and spider webs and spiders chilling in there and spiders that died and their babies came out and ate them and then made more webs and they're in like this one even has a giant ass birdness that like I feel like.

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I feel like you should get rid of that just for the bird flu.

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You know what I mean.

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Yeah, but anyways, I'm not gonna blame you for the incident, but we were walking out, it's nighttime, we had just finished recording.

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We're, haha, laughing.

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I was looking over my shoulder.

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Pat is hitting the switch to the lights inside so they go dark and the only light is the light coming in from outside.

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And I open the door and as I'm turning to go out the front of the door, I just see the like blurred out, depth of field silhouette of something large right coming towards my face and I feel the web pull across my eyebrows, my eyelashes go down, like my head, like my hair, and I feel like something solid, like it's not just the web, like there's something solid in it.

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That's like hitting my face and bouncing off and I don't know, bro, I kind of like.

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Next thing I remember is like taking my backpack off and asking you to like comb your hands through my hair and make sure, because I could, because all senses in my body just immediately like went lightning mode and I felt spiders all over myself.

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60 seconds later I felt.

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I felt spiders everywhere like I couldn't.

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I was trying to be like focus, focus, focus.

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Where is it?

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Where's the spider?

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Is it your shirt?

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Is it on your pant leg?

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Is it, like you know, where's?

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it at Like I was like it's everywhere the spiders, they're up my pants, they're in my socks.

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So I was pretty devastated and I was freaking out.

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But I was yelling and cussing and I was shaking my head and blowing you know raspberries to try to get the web off my lips and my beard and, um, you know, I, I, I I don't think I screamed or wailed Like I wasn't like, the like, it wasn't like you know, the like pathetic, like, oh, it wasn't like anything like that.

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Like I feel like I handled it very like, very masculine, like, especially for someone who's deathly afraid of spiders, like I feel like I feel like the approach was very like I would borderline say it was heroic like like I would be like the way he handled that, like with with his trauma, oh, what a hero.

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I was afraid you're about to pull your gun out.

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I legit like there was no, okay for people who could still like people who carry a line of duty, you can still carry whatever.

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Like you understand, like there's something that itches in the fear response of your amdula obligata.

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What is it?

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Your amygdala?

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Not, not that one, but the medulla oblongata.

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It's why crocodiles are so angry.

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But anyways, that response in there, like it makes you want to reach for a weapon, and like your real brain consciousness is like no, like my gun is not a proper thing here, because that's just a tiny snake or a rat or a spider or that's just the ocean or that's just the heights like the height of this building and like, but like I know people I've talked to like yeah, it was really weird.

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Like I wanted to grab my gun, like as a cop.

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They're, like you know, scaling up something really tall and they got a fear of heights.

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And like I wanted to grab my gun because I was so scared and on the heights, like you know, climbing up or something.

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So all I said I did have that urge to like, grab my gun and like, just like for this safety blanket feeling of it.

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You know what I mean Danny DeVito?

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Yeah, I didn't guys, don't worry.

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I didn't draw my gun, so I started blasting.

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I literally almost did All right, but anyways, go ahead and give your opinion, give your perspective.

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God, I can feel spiders on me right now, dude, I can feel them crawling on my legs right now it's checking.

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It's checking under the table.

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So I, yeah, so I turn off this light and I just turned it to the door and pat's just out in the parking lot.

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No, mick, you're pat.

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What what I say?

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You said pat's out at the parking lot.

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Oh yeah, pat me, I was walking out the door and mick is just in the parking lot.

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Uh yeah, he's dropped his backpack.

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At this point there's there's a little bit of flailing, a little bit of trying to get something off.

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I don't know.

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I didn't know what had happened.

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I know that the spider was in the situation I had.

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Just there was just pandemonium of trying to.

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I knew you were in trouble.

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Make the same sounds I did so that way we all know You'll make the sound and I won't even contest it.

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It's like get off me, Get it.

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Where is it?

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It's pretty masculine.

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It's pretty masculine.

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It just was a little bit of doubled over at one point trying to trying to clear it all out.

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And I was like I came to find out it was a spider, it was in my mouth.

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It was in my mouth.

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I felt the webs go in my mouth.

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That's why I was going.

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And so it was a.

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It was a spectacle, a sight to behold, and I think that here's the deal it had it.

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I've been in the same situation and it had been a snake, I would have done the same thing really, because you just don't strike me a snake guy because you deal with snakes all the time.

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That's's the thing is I rarely do.

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I do being in crawl spaces.

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Yes, snakes, but you know what I deal with every day in crawl spaces Spiders, lots of spiders, like the, all you know.

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Whatever.

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Like bare hand kill black widow, like just like we, just like you know, and like anyone in a dark crawl space as you're going, it is like she lobs lair and you're just like feeling the webs across your face, we also like the scene in shrek, when they're falling in love and she whips up that uh web cotton candy.

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You know we do that a lot.

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You're in there with like a broomstick, just like.

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By the time you come out it's literally, it is the oh, it's like a cotton candy web so I'm used to that.

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But the snakes even like a little garter snake.

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They mess you up, they mess me up and once I see them I'm sweating.

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The rest of the time I'm in the crawl.

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I'm scared, I'm like super jumpy.

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I can't handle it.

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That's so weird.

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I don't know that I'll mess with you now.

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So the snakes get me.

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I'm going to abuse you, the spiders don't.

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I can see where that could have been.

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I could see myself in that same situation, except for snakes.

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don't hang out in your awning over your front door.

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That's true.

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If a snake is dangling down and you're running into it and it's going in your face, you gotta get out of the jungle.

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Yeah, or the south Get out of there.

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I, the south, get out of there.

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So I was looking up a few stats on.

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The thing we're talking about is arachnophobia would you?

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Say that that is like you.

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Is that an over?

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diagnosis.

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No, dude, it's excessively ridiculous, like I know.

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Here's the thing, bro, I can like pick up grasshoppers.

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I can pick up praying mant, bro, I like I can like pick up grasshoppers, I could pick up praying mantis.

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You know, I could deal with those things.

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Um, I get like I don't mind, like just straight up clapping my hands on wasp or something like that.

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Like I will just clap wasp, I'm not afraid of like the bite or pain from them.

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It's the, it's the movement, man, it's the way you know.

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It is just the way the motherfuckers look at you the whole time.

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Why they crawl at you.

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Like, no matter where they're going, they're looking at you like they're going to mess you up, and I think that's the big thing.

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Do?

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These aren't spiders.

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Do they get to you though?

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The daddy long, long leg, is it kind of they don't really like I'll actually.

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So, yeah, like that's the weird thing, I don't know, it's definitely it's 100 psychological right, because tarantulas don't bother me one bit.

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I've handled tarantulas like gently right, like I'm not like just going out in the wild and picking them up.

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Like I see them out crawling across the road, migrating, I'm just gonna leave them be.

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But like rosie the tarantula, you know the pavilion or whatever is fine.

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And then, um, anything that's like you know the, a cousin or related to the jumping spiders, like uh, I don't spiders no, wolf spiders not cool.

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Not cool as wolf spiders too, too fast, maybe too skinny.

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Yeah, I think it's the skinniness of the legs and the joints, you know what I mean, like how narrow they are, but like the jumping spiders that, like you know, they wear.

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They wear like raindrops for hats.

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Yeah, yeah, those guys are chill and I'll like I'll.

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If I see them, I'll go out of my way to help them it's probably cellar spiders that are like you're like, you're like a no-go, yeah, but see like even those like are borderline, just daddy long legs to me.

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Yeah, and daddy, long legs are so like, I don't know.

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They kind of look like weenies.

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You know what I mean.

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They look like the wind blows hard and they fall apart, so they don't bother me that much.

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So arachnophobia, defined as it's a noun of extreme or irrational fear of spiders, and some stats for Americans who have it.

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They say it ranges from 3 to 15 percent, but a different study says 34 percent, when they were interviewing some college students reporting significant fear of spiders.

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But I wanted to know, I wanted to go through the symptoms of arachnophobia, the physical symptoms of arachnophobia that are similar to anxiety and panic attacks that you might experience.

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Okay, so I'm going to read through the list and then you just have to say you know if this happened to you last Monday night or not, or in general during your encounters.

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All right, number one Sweating or shaking yes.

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Tightness in your chest or rapid heartbeat yes.

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Trouble breathing or breathing fast, I don't know.

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Chills or a flushing red, hot face yes, on a million percent, a choking feeling maybe, maybe, choking more like a coughing but I think that's because of the wet that got in my mouth, in your mouth.

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Yeah, um upset stomach I really don't get nausea that much, unless it's like I do get nausea when it's the uh, like shiny, uh, you know, like the waxy looking spiders, like they look.

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If you step on them they crunch, they're like they like, they're like the same, like they got the same coating as like beetles and those kind of insects.

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Those things make me nauseous, yeah just because I know they're gonna crunch when I squish them.

00:19:05.430 --> 00:19:16.387
All right, um, uh, then, uh, dry mouth, oh yeah, a million percent dude, like the worst nicotine dry mouth in the world yeah, and then my last one.

00:19:16.628 --> 00:19:25.471
My favorite one is this last one, which is crying tantrums and clinging clean is a that's's real dude.

00:19:25.619 --> 00:19:26.704
Clinging is 100% real.

00:19:26.704 --> 00:19:27.865
How can you not, though?

00:19:27.865 --> 00:19:31.868
That's like your immediate knee-jerk reaction to jump and hold on to something.

00:19:31.868 --> 00:19:36.647
Yeah, crying, I don't think I've never been brought to tears.

00:19:36.647 --> 00:19:43.827
I think the only time I felt scared is if someone was taunting me about it and trying to hold a spider towards my face.

00:19:43.928 --> 00:19:44.169
Right.

00:19:45.339 --> 00:19:53.803
But was like taunting me about it and trying to like hold a spider towards my face, right, but like, even then that's not like tears as much as just like, like I won't cry but my eyes will get watery, yeah yeah, uh.

00:19:54.003 --> 00:19:59.053
And then I just think a great defining word is a tantrum dude tantrum.

00:19:59.232 --> 00:20:02.928
I bet billy jean would say it's a tantrum at times it was.

00:20:03.127 --> 00:20:07.440
It was a little tantrum me, but not yeah, you got it together.

00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:08.462
You got it back together.

00:20:08.462 --> 00:20:10.288
You did have to check your car or something.

00:20:10.288 --> 00:20:13.885
You had to make sure you were safe in there, but you recovered well.

00:20:13.885 --> 00:20:20.288
Thanks, man, and for hey, listen, this is a a condition, it's an illness.

00:20:20.308 --> 00:20:20.650
This is.

00:20:20.670 --> 00:20:26.421
This is nothing, nothing to make light of, all right here's how I've dealt with it in our new digs.

00:20:26.480 --> 00:20:32.626
Right, I've laid out sticky traps everywhere they were originally just to see if we had any mice, and we don't have any mice at all.

00:20:32.626 --> 00:20:54.645
None of the traps have caught anything with bait or anything like that, but these sticky traps have caught, I mean, dozens of spiders, big quarter-sized mother truckers, just nasty boys, and um, most often, of course in the basement, and then, more than anything, in the basement bathroom, for some reason, I don't know why, but it's like the basement bathroom is where they catch them most of the time.

00:20:55.259 --> 00:21:00.079
It's where the water source is, and it's damp and dark down in the basement.

00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:01.381
Why are these spiders like damp?

00:21:01.381 --> 00:21:02.102
Yeah, they just do.

00:21:02.102 --> 00:21:04.124
That doesn't make sense to me, I know.

00:21:04.124 --> 00:21:19.176
But I put the sticky traps on the backside of the toilet, right, so they're behind the toilet because it runs along the wall and I know if they walk back there they're done Like I don't have to worry about it.

00:21:19.176 --> 00:21:28.503
But there's been several times now where I'm going down to take a deuce in the privacy of my nice finished base room.

00:21:28.684 --> 00:21:30.752
Uh, basement bathroom, yeah, the poop bathroom.

00:21:30.752 --> 00:21:36.710
Yeah, it's got a heater in the ceiling so it blows like warm air, so it's like it just perfectly acclimates.

00:21:36.710 --> 00:21:38.441
You know, you can sweat it out if you want.

00:21:38.441 --> 00:21:55.269
And I have, uh, you know, attached to the whole toilet frame and all that, the you know, attached to the whole toilet frame and all that, the you know, like the cabinets not cabinets, but like the shelving wire rack that goes around your toilet and stuff for you to put books on and, you know, bathroom supplies.

00:21:55.269 --> 00:21:59.490
But on the top rack I have my Bug Assault shotgun.

00:21:59.490 --> 00:22:00.231
Are you ready?

00:22:00.461 --> 00:22:19.846
Yeah, and it's just sitting there loaded with salt, because I can just throw my arms up behind me like I'm grabbing to do a pull-up bar and pull myself off the toilet, but instead I just grab that bug assault shotgun and pull it down and it's already ready for me to just aim at whatever spiders crawling out from like they.

00:22:19.846 --> 00:22:20.688
Here's the biggest thing.

00:22:20.688 --> 00:22:30.094
I've seen them crawl out from the bathroom mat and start crawling towards me because I've put my feet on the bathroom mat and they're like, hey, what the hell?

00:22:30.094 --> 00:22:30.516
Yeah.

00:22:30.516 --> 00:22:50.343
And I've also seen them come out from the shower curtain Like they're chilling up in there and the bug assault shotgun it's just all spring powered and it doesn't have really the ump to finish them in one yeah, so I usually blast off a couple legs and then I have to pump it again and get in like dude.

00:22:50.363 --> 00:22:56.003
There was one time where there was like three spot, there was three spiders in one poop session and I like legit was like.

00:22:56.003 --> 00:22:59.511
I felt like, yeah, I felt like starship troopers bro.

00:22:59.531 --> 00:23:07.930
I felt like I was out of rackets just seasoning the floor yeah, they were just running at you for different directions and I was like get some motherfucker.

00:23:07.930 --> 00:23:12.255
Oh yeah, and I was that.

00:23:12.255 --> 00:23:14.986
That was the closest I've ever come to get it over my fear, because I couldn't do anything.

00:23:14.986 --> 00:23:19.070
I was immobile I was like they're either gonna kill me on the shitter or I'm gonna kill them.

00:23:19.070 --> 00:23:28.732
Dude, I love a bug assault and like uh, I really want to get the pistol with co2 because that thing looks like it, like can kill cockroaches, that thing really might rip.

00:23:28.792 --> 00:23:43.012
Yeah and uh, they're great with that shotgun pattern you can shoot stuff and and then, yeah, then sometimes you gotta get in close for the, for the final kill like the other day, I felt like a, like a sharp shooter.

00:23:43.012 --> 00:23:44.424
I gotta fly out of the air.

00:23:44.424 --> 00:23:46.413
Oh wow, you're shooting them While they're flying.

00:23:46.413 --> 00:23:47.357
Yeah, it just feels good.

00:23:47.357 --> 00:23:49.728
Yeah, it makes you feel Good inside.

00:23:49.728 --> 00:23:51.550
Have you shot yourself With it yet?

00:23:51.550 --> 00:23:51.972
Just to see.

00:23:52.114 --> 00:23:53.059
Oh yeah, it's fine.

00:23:53.059 --> 00:23:58.105
It's definitely like a gun that I would 100% be okay With my kids having for fun.

00:23:58.105 --> 00:24:00.920
Oh yeah, like Even if they shot One another.

00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:06.851
If they shot one another in it like they were being dumb and shot each other in the eye, I don't think it would do like real damage to the eye.

00:24:06.871 --> 00:24:08.432
Yeah, I think that I would like.

00:24:08.553 --> 00:24:19.303
Maybe I'd be like the only thing yeah, be scared, but like, even then, like I'm I don't know, like, yeah, my eye has been, I feel like they're a lot worse, and I'm all right.

00:24:19.403 --> 00:24:21.185
Nobody calls cps um.

00:24:21.185 --> 00:24:34.053
I know for a fact that they'll survive a bug assault shot just because what they do nerf to their eyeballs or something no, because I, uh, I, I popped them in the legs with it once.

00:24:34.053 --> 00:24:40.201
Oh yeah, just to um, I shot myself first yeah, to let them know yeah, and then then we got them there was dude.

00:24:40.221 --> 00:24:40.663
That's the rule.

00:24:40.663 --> 00:24:46.451
That's the rule is like they need to know if they're going to use it, what it feels like, so that way they don't just shoot each other.

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:48.448
Yeah, they don't abuse it Exactly.

00:24:48.448 --> 00:25:00.496
But the thing with arachnophobia you may be an advanced human in that people who don't have it do they even want to survive?

00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:01.602
Are they just you?

00:25:01.622 --> 00:25:04.921
know their smooth brain, they don't want to live, survive.

00:25:04.921 --> 00:25:06.905
Yeah, are they just, you know, dummies, their smooth brain they have.

00:25:06.905 --> 00:25:18.830
They don't want to live because, uh, you know, from best research can tell you know that there there is some evolutionary like uh, you, you know, string attached to it's just human survival.

00:25:18.830 --> 00:25:20.354
It helps humans survive it does.

00:25:20.394 --> 00:25:25.550
But man, but when you think about it, if I'm like like Irish and Scottish, like what spiders are from there.

00:25:26.333 --> 00:25:26.633
I don't know.

00:25:26.633 --> 00:25:27.683
They might have some good ones.

00:25:27.683 --> 00:25:32.691
They might have some good ones Because the one stat, too, is that it's more common.

00:25:32.691 --> 00:25:36.128
Arachnophobia is more common in European societies.

00:25:36.128 --> 00:25:38.848
It's because we killed all the big mother truckers out there.

00:25:38.848 --> 00:25:42.451
We killed all the big spiders Because you don't have to get used to like the.

00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:55.758
Dude to like the dude, some of like the spiders that are in like africa and like south america, big, oh yeah, big old spiders and I think you know maybe that's the difference is like in some countries they're just food like they.

00:25:55.758 --> 00:26:00.531
They get spiders, get big enough that they're just like oh, now that's on the menu yeah and like that, changes they're like.

00:26:00.531 --> 00:26:01.742
Am I afraid of chickens?

00:26:02.104 --> 00:26:03.528
no, am I afraid of like?

00:26:04.288 --> 00:26:14.866
I'm not afraid of anything that's on the menu, right, but like spiders here in america don't really get big enough to be on the menu, so I'm kind of like I think they just occupy that area of like.

00:26:14.866 --> 00:26:20.326
There's no benefit to you for me, regardless of what people think.

00:26:20.326 --> 00:26:24.855
Yeah, yeah, I know, they eat bugs, yada y yellow, um, all I said let's uh.

00:26:24.855 --> 00:26:26.057
Hey, man, what?

00:26:26.057 --> 00:26:29.084
What if we just move on and we don't talk about this anymore?

00:26:29.805 --> 00:26:37.486
to a uh, to a much less scary subject, or maybe not, which would be.

00:26:37.486 --> 00:26:40.191
You know, we've talked about it on here a few times.

00:26:40.191 --> 00:26:45.310
We've gotten to a little bit of the covid world, you know talking about talking about what's going on out there.

00:26:45.310 --> 00:26:59.790
Everybody's got a different thought about this, that and the other, and right now COVID cases are on the rise a little bit just kind of your summer flu is coming around, biden got it.

00:27:00.422 --> 00:27:04.367
Biden did get it, took him out of the race.

00:27:04.367 --> 00:27:06.486
I think might have taken him out.

00:27:06.486 --> 00:27:07.823
We don't know actually.

00:27:07.823 --> 00:27:08.486
No, I think he did.

00:27:09.169 --> 00:27:21.761
He appeared publicly there's a few days that people weren't sure it's kind of weird, though, like when they brought him out I thought it was odd that jill and hunter just had to be, you know, holding him over their arms the whole time, over their shoulders, and it's just kind of funny.

00:27:21.761 --> 00:27:26.827
Every time biden talked, she like moved his jaw for him and she weakened it just weekend at bernie's.

00:27:26.847 --> 00:27:28.509
Yeah, yeah, no for real.

00:27:29.131 --> 00:27:55.236
But um the uh people are still getting uh, getting vaccines, getting boosters, getting that covid gone from them um, uh and you know, like kind of, regardless of what you maybe think about it, there are just some facts about it as far as like how, like the efficacy of it and like how well it works against, like how well it actually serves its purpose.

00:27:55.236 --> 00:28:05.587
But then, uh, with any like, with any type of vaccine, there can be complications, there can be health things, you know, even like going to get a flu shot or stuff like you know, something weird can happen.

00:28:05.587 --> 00:28:14.368
But you know, for the most part people are fine, but on occasion the they're not fine.

00:28:14.368 --> 00:28:23.349
And you sent me this article this week and so, yeah, tell us about this lady, cause it's a I think it's a kind of a scary situation.

00:28:23.691 --> 00:28:27.201
Yeah, it's super sad and it's.

00:28:27.201 --> 00:28:34.250
You know I don't really get indignant about much, like I try to have quite a bit that can just roll off my back.

00:28:34.250 --> 00:28:45.296
You know my expression to Billie Jean often is we just got to be like ducks, you know, let it roll off a duck's back and like I can empathize with a lot and like I can, I can.

00:28:45.296 --> 00:28:47.166
I can empathize with a lot of things.

00:28:47.166 --> 00:28:52.438
I can understand why someone might be angry and I also just really enjoy arguing.

00:28:52.438 --> 00:28:56.830
Right, I enjoy making a case and going back and forth and debating things.

00:28:56.830 --> 00:29:01.530
But a lot of the stuff I argue I don't actually even care that strongly.

00:29:01.961 --> 00:29:05.848
I just enjoy the craft, like which way to put the toilet paper Dude 100%.

00:29:05.848 --> 00:29:21.510
This legitimately makes my blood boil, and I think it makes my blood boil because it feels like absolutely unaccountable evil.

00:29:21.510 --> 00:29:24.095
Um, I I cannot.

00:29:24.095 --> 00:29:40.070
I'm trying, I've been trying to frame it in my mind in a manner that isn't unaccountable evil and I cannot figure out how, how you could frame this and justify it from a moral ground.

00:29:40.070 --> 00:29:45.471
So, um, all that said, I just want people to know like I'm I am pissed.

00:29:45.471 --> 00:29:53.750
If I sound pissed, I'm trying to remain chill about it, but like I'm super pissed about this, and it's less about COVID and more about it's more about the government.

00:29:53.789 --> 00:29:56.924
It's more about people picking stuff for you one way or the other.

00:29:56.984 --> 00:30:05.171
Yep, so Kayla Pollack I believe it's pronounced Pollack she's from Ontario, canada, she's 37.

00:30:05.171 --> 00:30:06.285
She was a healthy young woman.

00:30:06.285 --> 00:30:21.040
She was athletic fitness kind of enthusiast and there's images and stuff like that and videos online of her before she got the vaccine Right Excuse me line of her before she got the vaccine right.

00:30:21.040 --> 00:30:29.144
Excuse me, but she had one of the boosters and the result of this booster was a condition that has left her, uh, paralyzed from the waist down and she's in a wheelchair.

00:30:29.144 --> 00:30:31.586
And this has actually been reported.

00:30:31.586 --> 00:30:40.931
I think, if I remember reading, 700 and like 70 of these specific conditions have been reported to the Canadian Board of Health.

00:30:40.931 --> 00:30:43.311
I don't know what the Board of Health is called.

00:30:43.311 --> 00:30:46.273
Off the top of my head it's not like the CDC like we have here.

00:30:46.273 --> 00:30:47.554
I don't know.

00:30:47.554 --> 00:30:52.136
But this is a condition, like Pat said, where it's not impossible.

00:30:52.136 --> 00:30:54.157
This could happen with almost any vaccine you get.

00:30:54.198 --> 00:31:03.227
Depending on what's in the vaccine A lot of vaccines you can have these adverse reactions.

00:31:03.227 --> 00:31:15.527
It's just that, like the odds of this happening when you go to get a flu shot and having this kind of reaction are so, so small, like it's not, like it's happening every single year to people who get the flu shot right, and usually they have a lot of pre-existing conditions that might be related.

00:31:15.527 --> 00:31:20.244
Or like they're taking other medication that says don't take live vaccines with this.

00:31:20.244 --> 00:31:36.570
You know various things like that and in this is an incident where you know it's not just one person, it's not just a dozen, it's not just people on one type of medication, but it's like I mean 774 people paralyzed.

00:31:36.570 --> 00:31:39.615
Know, is a reaction to these like this wave of boosters.

00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:42.344
That's mind boggling to me.

00:31:42.344 --> 00:31:49.055
That like we're, like, like you have to kind of dig around to try to find these articles in these news and they're coming out of like Western standard news.

00:31:49.055 --> 00:31:50.901
It's Canadian newspaper.

00:31:50.901 --> 00:31:59.661
Like this isn't just like you know, no, no shade at like Eastern publications, but like sometimes I don't really trust what I read on.

00:31:59.661 --> 00:32:00.704
Like the Hindu Times.

00:32:00.704 --> 00:32:01.628
You know what I mean.

00:32:01.628 --> 00:32:07.489
It feels a little bit like he said, she said, but like this is you know what's coming through here.

00:32:07.489 --> 00:32:24.300
And this Canadian you know board of health has at times paid out to these claims of complications as a result from the COVID boosters, which I'm like good If that happens.

00:32:24.300 --> 00:32:41.904
You know if you're having complications due to getting a mandated booster, whether by your work or the government whatever, like they need to pay out the nose for affecting your life and they need to cover that and I've seen reading around that they've paid somewhere in the neighborhood of like $16 million, I think.

00:32:41.904 --> 00:32:46.230
In complication like what's it called?

00:32:46.230 --> 00:32:47.133
Hush?

00:32:47.212 --> 00:32:47.492
money.

00:32:47.492 --> 00:32:48.674
No, yeah, hush, money.

00:32:49.602 --> 00:32:57.523
But like damage reimbursement now practice reimbursement and a lot of these are like you know.

00:32:57.523 --> 00:32:59.608
They're all mrna vaccines.

00:32:59.608 --> 00:33:01.861
They're all either the moderna or pfizer.

00:33:01.861 --> 00:33:09.028
It doesn't seem like any of this is like the johnson, johnson and johnson vaccines from anywhere I can find um.

00:33:09.028 --> 00:33:15.803
But the moderna and pfizer made up, like the majority of the vaccines people took um and they are the ones with mrna.

00:33:15.803 --> 00:33:19.767
I don't think the Johnson Johnson one, or at least the first one, had mRNA.

00:33:19.767 --> 00:33:24.411
I'm not entirely sure, pat, you can feel free to check me on that.

00:33:24.411 --> 00:33:30.435
But all that said, she's had these complications, which is awful enough, but that makes me mad.

00:33:30.435 --> 00:34:00.614
That should make all of us mad, right, like your government mandating you to do something in your life and someone like a mother at 37, her entire life is altered beyond repair and, uh, rather than offering to compensate her after like receiving, like the records and the evidence of everything, the Canadian government has offered her not once, but doubled down on all the offering to assist her in suicide.

00:34:00.614 --> 00:34:05.289
It's abbreviated as MADE, which is what does it stand?

00:34:05.329 --> 00:34:11.532
for I was looking it up, it looks like it's Medical Aid in Dying is what it stands for.

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:21.528
Yeah, and they're essentially telling her she's trying to get payments for this and they're like, well, that's gonna be really expensive and, honestly, your quality of life's pretty bad.

00:34:21.528 --> 00:34:23.161
So how about we just help you die?

00:34:23.161 --> 00:34:26.990
Like you know, we could just assist you in having a peaceful passing.

00:34:26.990 --> 00:34:31.369
That way, it doesn't cost us any money, you don't have to spend your life being in a wheelchair.

00:34:31.369 --> 00:34:34.043
And now it's just like are you?

00:34:34.043 --> 00:34:36.889
I mean, are we?

00:34:36.889 --> 00:34:40.396
This has to be a fucking book like this.

00:34:40.677 --> 00:34:44.407
It's hard for me to imagine that this isn't a movie like the.

00:34:44.407 --> 00:34:49.681
The federal government of canada is just saying hey, yeah, we're at fault for that.

00:34:49.681 --> 00:34:56.001
And uh, rather than pay you, justly, how about we just put the pillow over your face?

00:34:56.001 --> 00:34:58.181
Yeah, no, no, are you sure you don't want to do that?

00:34:58.181 --> 00:35:00.025
All right, well, let's talk about a little.

00:35:00.025 --> 00:35:02.161
Let's talk about the pay, the cost, a little bit more.

00:35:02.161 --> 00:35:08.007
All right, well, we, before we pay you, are you sure you don't want us just to, like, inject you and kill you?

00:35:08.007 --> 00:35:16.108
You know what I mean like this is the fact that this is even a conversation right now makes me think, like, how far are we away before?

00:35:16.108 --> 00:35:20.182
It's not a choice and I know that sounds so doom and gloom.

00:35:20.222 --> 00:35:36.811
But, guys, you know, 50 years ago there was no government in the world that was a first world country looking to better the existence of all of its people, considering like oh yeah, you know, we should provide medically assisted suicide.

00:35:36.811 --> 00:35:50.346
Like the countries that were doing that were countries that were unstable, couldn't afford to keep the sick alive, and they had philosophies and their governments that were like the sick are a disease, it is better to like euthanize them than to try to treat them.

00:35:50.346 --> 00:35:51.228
You know what I mean.

00:35:51.228 --> 00:36:07.268
And like those are the countries and things that like that, that like we've always tried to steer clear of, and like now that this is like in canada, I'm just like bro, like you gotta, why are people not asking like that question of like how long until they just start not having it be a choice?

00:36:07.268 --> 00:36:09.353
Like how, how expensive do I gotta get?

00:36:09.353 --> 00:36:12.005
Let's play the ballpark game on this.

00:36:12.005 --> 00:36:22.148
You know, if I can get up to 750 before they decide to like kill me, then then maybe you know like that's insane that we could even be having that conversation.

00:36:22.407 --> 00:36:31.009
Right and or if there's a when it comes to like socialized medicine, if it's a you know a thing of like you've become a societal burden.

00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:50.065
So there's no longer like, like socialized medicine with like oh, it's going to take too long to treat you too like by the time by the time we have the bandwidth to treat you because of your place in line, your quality of life's gonna be so bad that, like we might as well just off you now, so that way we can shorten the line and save who we can save.

00:36:50.065 --> 00:36:52.992
Yeah, it's like what are we talking about?

00:36:53.173 --> 00:36:54.637
yeah, yeah, it's not like.

00:36:54.637 --> 00:36:55.920
Uh, yeah, it's like.

00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:18.043
And one thing that was reported reported here too that I thought was interesting, prior to them offering her the assisted suicide, was the she went to the doctor like with paralysis and the first doctors said that she they thought she was faking and that it was a psychiatric incident, and that it was a psychiatric incident.

00:37:18.043 --> 00:37:26.336
And then it said that she said later another doctor whispered in my ear and said I think there's something wrong with you and I don't think you're faking.

00:37:26.336 --> 00:37:44.047
So just the fact that even this other doctor had to like Can't just outright say it, yeah, has to protect themselves from the mind virus canada is freaking fallen dude and so like uh, it's just, uh, yeah, it's uh.

00:37:44.891 --> 00:38:11.052
You know, whatever your thoughts on like getting the vaccine, getting boosters, that sort of thing, like on this back end of it, just the, the fact that it's uh, they're kind of even offering or also pushing someone towards this decision, just like gaslighting yeah it's pretty dude, imagine any other, imagine any other kind of like medical situation where it's like, you know, someone comes in like all right, I was raped.

00:38:11.835 --> 00:38:16.427
Um, I'm pretty sure this person raped me, but I was done, I was on drugs, but here's like everything.

00:38:16.427 --> 00:38:27.199
I got that kind of lines up and like the doctor, be like, I don't think you were raped, I think you're making it up, and then another doctor having to be like quietly and can't disclose, disclose it in front of anyone.

00:38:27.199 --> 00:38:29.324
Look, I believe you, okay, I'll help you.

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You know, like that's crazy.

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We'd be losing our minds at that right right, right, yeah, there'd be uh, people would be upset about it and but she is paralyzed from the, from the neck down and has some use of her of, like a hand.

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You know a little bit like move, move a wheelchair or something, but yeah, super scary stuff and the.

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You know the, the.

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