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Brews N' Reviews - Nosferatu, Chapel of Ghouls
January 31, 2025

Brews N' Reviews - Nosferatu, Chapel of Ghouls

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Season 3

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What happens when you mix a hazy IPA with one of the most classic horror films? After our short hiatus, we're back and bringing you a lively discussion that's as refreshing as a cold brew on a misty night. We kicked off the new year with TRVE Brewing's Chapel of Ghouls in hand, delving into its unique flavor and how it echoes the haunting atmosphere of Nosferatu. Our "swish test" gets a workout as we break down the beer's ingredients and chat about the gothic design of its matte black can, all while humorously debating the nuances between hazy and traditional IPAs.

Vampires, contracts, and the unexpected agency of Ellen Hunter—our conversation spins a web around modern horror's complex themes. Bill Skarsgård's mesmerizing portrayal of Count Orlok offers plenty to unpack, particularly when comparing the narrative to Bram Stoker's Dracula. We explore the psychological tension in these tales, likening the seductive pull of vampirism to an addictive substance. Our chat takes a twist as we share some unexpected personal anecdotes from our viewing experiences, highlighting how even the seasoned horror fans amongst us can get caught by a startling jump scare in a theater seat!

Nosferatu's mystique continues as we explore its influence on modern vampire lore and trivia. From the iconic use of rats over bats to the chilling portrayal of supernatural rituals, we dissect the unsettling elements that linger long after the credits roll. The episode rounds off with insights into other vampire movies, thinking about what makes these stories timeless and how they compare to Nosferatu's enduring narrative. If you love a good horror tale or want to hear about the artistry behind the scenes, grab your earbuds and join Mick and Pat for a ghoulishly good time!

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Chapters

01:07 - Beer Review

16:38 - Discussion on Modern Horror Movie Themes

28:58 - The Horror of Count Orlok

35:52 - Unsettling Themes in Horror Movies

42:02 - Vampire Lore and Missing Vampires

45:08 - Exploring Vampire Lore and Superstitions

51:22 - Exploring Supernatural Themes in Movies

01:02:45 - Conversation on Dracula Movie Review

01:11:53 - Exploring Nosferatu and Horror Movie Trivia

Transcript
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Welcome.

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Welcome to Brews and Reviews with Mick and Pat.

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I'm Mick and I'm Pat.

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Each week we sit down with you degenerates to pretend we're certified Cicerones and Cinephiles.

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That is right.

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So grab a cold one and join us as we review True Brewing's chapel of ghouls and the movie nosferatu and if you've been with us before, you know what time it is.

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Release the kraken that was synced up right there for uh beer on the computer for a weekly review.

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That hasn't been done since, uh, maybe may of 2024, but that's all right, because we, uh, what did we do in may?

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Dune, I think.

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Uh, maybe it was dune, or I think the last thing we might have done was uh, wasn't uh fallout?

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Was it might have been fallout?

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Oh, I think fallout was the last one, at least that's what.

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Uh, yeah, I think fall was last one.

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But fallout review it may not be each week that we sit down, but we're getting back in the groove, we're getting back in the saddle.

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Part of, uh, we'll see part of my new year's resolution.

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I don't think we can say we're getting back in the saddle until we've been back in the saddle it's a slow side.

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I mean we're getting in it.

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We might get bucked off, might get bucked off the saddle, but we're at least, uh, at least making the attempt.

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Um, but we're here in the making.

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Pat shows worldwide headquarters and we have one of our favorite breweries beers.

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Yeah, yeah, no it's great to uh one of our favorite breweries beers.

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Yeah, yeah, no, it's great to uh get it going again.

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I'm always gonna be down to do a bruising reviews, uh, but I'm always doubly down if we're reviewing something from true brewing, because they just can't fail, they can't, they can't fail.

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Um so, uh, but yeah, I'm pretty stoked here.

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Um pat, you know what?

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Uh?

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What's this?

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Can bro?

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What?

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What is everything?

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What's going on here?

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well, as usual with the true brewing company.

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We got a matte black can and we've got, you know, some pretty simple writing on here.

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Just uh, the chapel of ghouls, hazy, ipa and the image on this one.

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We've got a, a castle on a cliff, a gothic-y, craggy, steeply castle with like a blood moon or something behind it.

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So it's red, lighten it up back there honestly looks a lot like the castle.

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I didn't know.

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It's fraught to you know I mean, I was across that bridge and stuff.

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Yeah, no yeah, yeah, it looks uh.

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That's why uh might be, why we picked it.

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But the uh, let's see what type of type of hops and things we have in here.

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We got some.

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They like the troubadour truths man.

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They're always throwing that in on the malt I think it's because they own it.

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That must be, you know, I mean got the troubadour truth the antero the proximity munchin, munich 10.

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I'm trying to read this sideways munchin, proximity, munchin.

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No, it's the proximity munich 10, or is it 10?

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Io, I, i-o, I don't know.

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I think that's I-O.

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For the hops I got Citra, mosaic, nelson Rewaka that's kind of an exciting word, rewaka, rewaka, that's weird.

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So 6.5 on that alcohol in there.

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It's a hazy Indian pale ale which, I'll be honest, first sips, you know, first sips.

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I wouldn't think of this as a pale ale, but maybe I'm just not giving the skunkiness because I haven't done the swish test yet.

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That's true.

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Do you recall the swish test, pat?

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I do.

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How could I forget?

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For those of us who haven't done the swish test, in a minute I'll walk you through it.

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But essentially, you're going to take like a nice little tablespoon amount of the beer in your mouth and you're going to start letting it go across from the tip of your tongue to the back and then it's going to slide off the sides underneath the tongue.

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You're going to swish it side to side between the molars, then you're going to put it all in front of your tongue and push your tongue forward to really push that beer forward through your front teeth.

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That's just really going to aerate it and get all bubbly, which allows you to taste all those profiles.

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And I'm going to do it now, pat.

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That was a good swish test.

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I heard that one in my ears.

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Oh good, uh, pat, what'd you taste?

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well, I'm actually another swish test, because I I tasted me almost swallowing my zen during that swish arena okay, which I know is I know mick hates it when I got the zen in take this out so I'm gonna have to take another one, because I did.

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I almost lost it during the swishing part of that swish test, but I liked what I tasted.

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I tasted beer.

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I mean, I'll say that again.

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It doesn't taste as hoppy, which I'm alright with because I don't like super hoppy beer.

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It's a very, very subtle pale ale, indian pale ale flavor.

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Um, I'm not sure I really comprehend the difference between hazy and unhazy.

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Like what is a the difference between an ipa and a hazy?

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ipa?

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Is it just the way it's filtered?

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Like if we maybe we had poured this into the glass, would it be a little more?

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Oh yeah, it would be not as clear.

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Yeah, but I think you know from looking at it, this looks kind of I haven't poured it out it looks like it might be kind of pinky in there, a little orangey, pinkish, maybe it's orange.

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I'm seeing down in there.

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But once again with True, the thing about the True beer is like it's just good and whatever it is, whatever their base flavor profile is, it's just smooth, I think when it comes to their IPAs, there's always that very consistent level of citrus, and it's always the same kind of level of citrus across all of them.

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It doesn't feel overbearing, and so I think that, plus, they've never overdone any flavors.

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None of the flavors have ever been just obnoxious or excessive and so like.

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Even with their sours, like I've heard some people complain about their sours being too sour or whatever, and I've I've yet to have a sour by them.

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That was like a really, really pungent tart sour.

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Everything I've had has been pretty balanced.

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So I think this is another one that, in my opinion, like I went in expecting, all right, it might be super hoppy, might be like you know more hoppy than I want it to be, and it wasn't it's.

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it's very balanced and, like you said, it has that like consistent, what we kind of come to expect from them, like leveled citrus flavor underneath.

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So I don't, I mean, I I really enjoy, I think it tastes good, I.

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I would be interested, though, to like have a couple of their ipas all at once together, right, and compared across, like because I know Tunnel of Trees, tunnel of Trees has a lot stronger and like way less citrus taste, I think, but it's got much more of a like dry, hoppy flavor.

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So, anyways, I think it's pretty good.

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I'm going to give it a couple more swishes here, but I mean, I think I've already kind of made up my mind.

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Yeah, me too, and I think that the what they're doing is I think they're just not trying to do too much.

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You know, like they just, and that's why they, they're not, yeah, they're not making these super skunked out beers, um, and they, uh, they, they're getting their craft down.

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They've got their thing going on.

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Um, yeah, the only different difference between a hazy ipa and ipa is just the cloudy appearance and kind of can have a like a more fruity or you know pro like flavor or citrusy flavor um a hazy one can should make sense.

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Makes sense.

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A little more juicy in there, but I think, I think I'm ready to rate it, you know, I mean yeah we when we, if you know, usually we do a brewery breakdown on on on these places, but this is like the eighth beer we've done from them or something.

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They're out of denver.

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They've got a music city hot chicken in their tap room and so you can go get some chicken, get some beer.

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Or if you're in their tap room, so you can go get some chicken, get some beer.

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Or if you're in the northern Colorado area and you go to a Music City Hot Chicken, you can get some beer from True in your Music City.

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That's been the newest, greatest addition to our—.

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Yeah, right down the street from us, right by our old headquarters here.

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Yeah, I think I'm just going to give it a good old flat thumb up that's what I was.

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That's what I was at, I think.

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I think if it was colder it might might edge it up to two.

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Oh yeah, so that is one thing.

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I think that maybe, like I'm talking like right out of the freezer, just frozen- before yeah or, like pour it, right into a frozen glass, you know just because sometimes that can really bring out other flavors, sometimes IPAs, when they get too warm, I feel like sometimes it's harder to get like all the flavors and they can kind of come off creamy.

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You know what I'm saying Does that make sense?

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Yeah, for sure.

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I think it tastes really good though.

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Yeah, because I'll say too, I'm giving it a one thumb, but now that we've had so many of their beers, I'm kind of giving it like a one thumb of a true beer, you know, because we've been floored by some of their others, yeah, so now there's been a creeping scale here on, like what we've come to expect.

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We're comparing this to all the other beers.

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I don't think there's a true beer we've reviewed that didn't get at least one thumb up.

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Right, I'd be tempted to give it two, just to give it three thumbs.

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You know what I mean.

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On the Mick and Pat collaborative scale.

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You really do.

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No, I mean what I'm saying is because our scale I reserve the two.

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No, I know I.

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I'm saying is because our scale I reserve the two.

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No, I know, I reserve the two big time too.

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What I'm saying is, when you give the Mick and Pat scale, it's out of four thumbs, yeah, yeah.

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So it's hard for us to get to three.

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Three thumbs is more common that we have, it's technically out of nine possible ratings Right, or ten possible ratings, two of them overlap.

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It's hard to get a three-thumber because that means one of us has to really love it, one of us thinks it's just okay.

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There was a lot of kombuchas that got the three-thumber Really, yeah, not a lot.

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I think there's two kombuchas that I gave two thumbs up for kombucha stuff and you gave them one.

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Maybe I can't remember Could have gone either way.

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Uh, it was a dark time.

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We hadn't had a beer for like months.

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We were just eating, drinking the hard kombucha, but our, our tummies were so bacterially healthy my poops were great, they were good um, I will say the difference the morning after between a kombucha and a and a in a.

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Yeah.

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That's a little night and day right there.

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Oh yeah, I never once felt gross after crushing like six kombuchas.

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I don't think there was a night on here where I had six kombuchas but, like you know, we would have like two to three a piece and I never once like felt like that dry and thirstiness.

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Never like woke up in the middle of the night like, oh, I'm so thirsty and I need to pee.

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If I have three IPAs, I'm going to wake up and be like, oh, my God, I'm so thirsty and I need a piece.

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So bad.

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Oh yeah, no for sure.

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Um, all right, cool, hey, you're here at the make it past show.

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Uh, pat, for True Brewery's Chapel of Ghouls Hazy IPA.

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It's available in like the big distributor stores in Colorado and along the front range here in the West, but you can also get it online.

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I've seen True Brewery available more and more online as they've upped their distributions.

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So if you're out of state and you want to try some True, check that internet.

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You could probably get shipped to you.

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I would honestly love for us to get a liquor license so we can mail stuff.

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That'd be cool.

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We could just mail it out to people who want beer.

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I wonder how hard an online like how it.

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I wonder if there's like certain loopholes to getting liquor licenses where you could get an easier one for being like a shipper, distributor versus a, you know, the full board, full blown, like you know.

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So these things are like 50 grand oh really, yeah, yeah, like, like for like a restaurant usually and stuff like that maybe.

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Maybe I'm way off, I might be way off it's crazy, makes you wonder how drizzly went out of business.

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If your model's just delivering liquor, how can you go out of business?

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But I never actually used drizzly to get liquor or beer, you know.

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I always used it just to see what was in stock at other places okay, I'm way off here.

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Cost to get a liquor license in this state can range from 1500 to 5000 dollars.

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Yeah, okay, okay, so I was.

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Okay, so I was like.

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I feel like it's 50 grand in places like New York or Chicago where there's insane bureaucracy.

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Um, anyways, all I said let's get in the movie.

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Uh, and so I'll dive in.

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About a review for Nosferatu.

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Sorry, not the review, but just the synopsis for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but the one liner on IMDB a gothic tale of obsession between a haunted young woman and the terrifying vampire infatuated with her causing untold horror in its wake, and I personally think that, uh, the the real core of this is in, like the modern day setting, right, Like like cause, I think like there's like what movies and plays were telling audiences at the time versus like why would we want to be told this now?

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Why does?

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a director, want to tell a story now, Right, Right.

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And I think the story now today is like a more along the lines of the classic like be you know careful what you open yourself up to be careful what you let in, because it may come under the guise of a companion, a lover, and then, you know, whatever it may come under the guise of good tidings and ultimately be a nefarious thing, whether you want to look at it spiritually, or you know people, you know friends, companions, whatever it may be, but essentially, spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't seen the movie.

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Of course we're going to talk spoilers, right, we always do.

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Uh, if you don't want it to be spoiled, go watch the movie.

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Um, but, uh, yeah, spoiler what?

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What pretty much happens, right, is that Lily Rose Depp's character, ellen Hunter.

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Lily Rose Depp, daughter of Johnny Depp, not daughter of Amber Heard, johnny Depp's ex-wife, but one of his earlier partners.

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And then, yeah, so she plays Ellen Hunter, and Ellen Hunter has some kind of, you know, emptiness she feels in her life, and we don't really see much of that.

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You know emptiness she feels in her life and we don't really see much of that, but we do see her, essentially in this trance, being led outside of her private estate that you know her and her family used to live at when she was I don't know.

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I imagine it's like depicting her as like A teenager, teenager-ish, like it's hard to tell because she's like, as old as our wives.

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But there's a part that says many years later.

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Yeah.

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I think she's a late teenager.

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I'd say she's 17, if you know what I mean, yeah.

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It's okay to depict obscure sexual stuff, right?

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But anyways, she wanders out at night and then she finds herself spiritually enraptured and she falls on her back and she starts seeming to have, I would say, what is known.

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Some people have never seen this Clinically.

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Yeah, some people have never seen this in their lives.

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So if you were confused I could explain it to you.

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But I think she was having a female orgasm.

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Play it to you, but I think she was having a female orgasm um and, uh, this was the best.

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Like, okay, this is gonna sound weird, this is the best part of the movie to me, right, uh, because she was doing her thing and I was like, okay, weird, and I'm opening up my box of french fries I had garlic fries because I was at the.

00:17:41.222 --> 00:17:49.720
I was at the dine-in movie theater and my, my wife, billy jean, hadn't gone there yet, she hadn't gotten in the room yet, she hadn't gotten to the movie theater yet.

00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:51.326
Oh, she was showing up from.

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She was showing up from, like, uh, her workout class oh my god, so I got us food and seats and stuff and um, I just hear like the uh, yeah uh, and like there's no nudity, like yeah, you don't see any nudity or anything, but she's like writhing uh-huh.

00:18:08.282 --> 00:18:33.186
And then it like quick cuts to this silhouette, haunting depiction of this like zombie-like vampire lurching over, like the like lurching from out of view because the camera's just kind of looking up at the moon, yeah, and he comes out from out of view and like wraps his hand around her throat and scream and she screams right and like that.

00:18:33.186 --> 00:18:43.872
That jump scare actually went to my pelvis, like I felt it go through my eyes down to my pelvis and I like was, like I jumped and like you caught my garlic fries dude.

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I didn't drop it, but it was so and I was like the reason, jumped and caught my garlic fries dude.

00:18:45.368 --> 00:18:45.417
I didn't drop any.

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That's so funny and I was like the reason I say it was my favorite was because that was the most off guard, I was in the whole movie.

00:18:53.669 --> 00:18:56.749
Yeah, because whenever you hear that kind of that was horror.

00:18:56.749 --> 00:18:59.686
Whenever you hear sex sounds and stuff, you just kind of start tuning out.

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You're like okay, whatever Like sex stuff, and the way it grabbed me so quickly from my guard being down was pretty great and that yeah, that did scare me, that scared, did it scare you at home?

00:19:09.798 --> 00:19:13.066
here's what I will say you were illegally streaming fbi get him.

00:19:13.867 --> 00:19:14.429
No, I paid.

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I paid 18 to rent this thing.

00:19:16.353 --> 00:19:16.780
Oh, you did.

00:19:16.780 --> 00:19:18.304
Laptop, oh, I'm so proud of you.

00:19:18.345 --> 00:19:22.922
You used to just pirate everything which I don't blame you sometimes you gotta pirate.

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I freaking should have, because here's what happened.

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I um, I had a.

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I had a couple extra hours.

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This isn't a movie like my wife's gonna want to watch, definitely not a movie like around the kids no and so, like I had a couple hours after work, I was at the at the shop here and I was like no way you watched it here at the shop.

00:19:43.828 --> 00:19:49.085
Yeah, that's scary, and so I, but I'm like, I, I rented, I click play.

00:19:49.085 --> 00:19:58.644
There's music, there's um, there's a dialogue, there's closed captions, there's nothing on the screen.

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I thought this was art.

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I sat there for 10 minutes.

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Oh really, or like, or I will.

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I sat there until the jump scare, because then people just started talking in like dialogue, like yeah, and I was like, okay, clearly it's time to like worst movie ever, it's time to like show the picture.

00:20:17.970 --> 00:20:30.608
So I thought it was like complete darkness of like her being like this, like where she's saying you know, like come to me, my angel and he's like forever, you will be mine that was really good

00:20:32.325 --> 00:20:33.067
he's hitting these things.

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So I thought I was like, okay, like they're just setting the scene and I was just waiting for the flash of the screen to come on right.

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Never happened, and that scary part happened and so also.

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So then also, I'm just sitting here watching a screen of black and it's oh, yeah, oh, and I'm like okay, what's going on here?

00:20:49.940 --> 00:20:54.461
And then it's like okay, something's wrong.

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So then I turned it off, turned off different browsers, checked all my ad blockers, checked everything back off and on everything like nothing.

00:21:02.961 --> 00:21:06.098
So then I had to watch it on my freaking phone, dude.

00:21:06.098 --> 00:21:20.916
So I will say the phone is not the same experience, yeah, as a theater, for sure, compared to the theater especially, but at the very least I was trying to watch it on the computer, but at first I thought it was just an artsy direction.

00:21:20.916 --> 00:21:22.877
Nope, just wasn't working.

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Did the jump scare get you?

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on your phone.

00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:28.541
No, because I just heard it Damn that sucks bro.

00:21:29.182 --> 00:21:31.003
That sucks, because that was such a good jump scare.

00:21:31.023 --> 00:21:32.204
The image did get to me.

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Yeah, Like the image was like oh, okay.

00:21:34.986 --> 00:21:46.623
I can't even tell you what the image was, because it was so Of the monster, you know, but like coming over the top, but it was so like out of the top of my eyes as I was looking up over my glasses.

00:21:46.623 --> 00:21:56.044
You know that like it was just enough, that like it was so quick and fast and obscure, that like I, I can't even tell you what it looked like I think it was even out of focus.

00:21:56.305 --> 00:21:59.071
Oh, really, a little like, a little bit spooked me.

00:21:59.971 --> 00:22:09.260
Uh, yeah, but anyways, uh yeah, she calls out in the spirit or essence of nosferatu.

00:22:09.260 --> 00:22:21.983
Nosferatu is apparently like the equivalent of the noun vampire, excuse me, uh, and that, like it is not a singular thing or a name.

00:22:21.983 --> 00:22:23.027
Yeah, like a, no, like a.

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Nosferatu is literally the demon of uh plague and it comes at different times to different cultures and it's like this recorded demon and it's essentially, like you know, the like copyright free version of vampire, because back in the day fun fact nosferatu was written as a spinoff of dracula, to not get sued, was written as a spinoff of Dracula to not get sued, because they wanted to essentially make the Dracula movie based off of Bram Stoker's Dracula novel and the rights were already purchased and given away to someone else and stuff, and so this guy just was like, okay, well, I'm just going to change the names and the location and what it is and then we can make our movie.

00:23:17.589 --> 00:23:23.583
And I mean, I'll say this if you've seen brahms, if you've seen francis ford, coppola's brahms, stoker's dracula, you've seen this movie.

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They are almost beat for beat.

00:23:25.230 --> 00:23:25.932
The same movie.

00:23:25.932 --> 00:23:37.846
Um, like, the only difference is how it starts out, with her being the one to invite this presence into her life.

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Have you ever seen Francis Ford Coppola's version of Bram?

00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:47.038
Stoker, I don't think I have it's with Gary Oldman and Keanu Reeves.

00:23:47.038 --> 00:23:54.162
Oh gosh, who's the really great other, uh, british old guy, anthony hopkins.

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He's, uh, he played anthony hopkins plays van helsing and, um, oh, the mom from stranger things, winona rider, plays mina.

00:24:07.034 --> 00:24:18.757
Anyways, it's a really good like movie that had a ton of different like theater stages that were set up for and it was filmed on.

00:24:18.757 --> 00:24:21.951
So honestly, oftentimes when you're watching it looks like a live theater.

00:24:21.951 --> 00:24:27.892
It is, though, even more sexual than this movie is, and I would say this movie honestly.

00:24:27.892 --> 00:24:28.874
Someone told me they're like.

00:24:28.874 --> 00:24:35.196
When I I was going into it, someone was like, hey, this movie is really weird and there's a lot of weird sexual stuff in it.

00:24:35.196 --> 00:24:40.837
I was like, okay, so then you had prepared yourself for a lot yeah, and then I went in and I was like what?

00:24:40.910 --> 00:24:42.630
This was less than Bram Stoker's Dracula.

00:24:42.630 --> 00:24:54.352
Like Bram Stoker's Dracula had way more sex, nudity, like body possession stuff in it, like, uh, body possession stuff in it.

00:24:54.352 --> 00:25:00.483
And so I went into this one and I was like expecting what I got, and what I got was less than you know what I was prepared for which is okay.

00:25:00.483 --> 00:25:01.290
I'm not right.

00:25:01.290 --> 00:25:11.259
I prefer a lot less sex, honestly, in my horror movies, especially like evil, bad, weird sex yeah, like possessed yeah yeah, it's like it's a little bit of rowdy.

00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:20.757
Yeah, I, I came in on the opposite side of things just being like oh, there's not sex in this yeah, it's like, you know, vampires, they just they want to suck your blood, you know?

00:25:20.757 --> 00:25:21.479
Yeah, that's it.

00:25:21.479 --> 00:25:25.055
It's like, oh no, this is, this is sexual, you know.

00:25:25.275 --> 00:25:32.901
But yeah, which I also think a big thing I hear about is like what I was seeing arenas like people thought like they were having a lot of sex.

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I don't think they had sex.

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I don't think they had sex once.

00:25:36.917 --> 00:25:44.857
I think her and Nicholas Holt's character, thomas, her husband, definitely have sex, or it's alluded they have sex a couple times.

00:25:44.857 --> 00:25:48.500
I think the final scene.

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I don't think it was sex.

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I think he was just drinking her blood because he was drinking.

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He did the same thing.

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Nicholas H scene.

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I don't think it was sex.

00:25:52.130 --> 00:25:54.890
I think he was just drinking her blood Because he was drinking.

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He did the same thing to Nicholas Holt, but I don't think they were having sex and it showed him just drinking, gorging himself on Nicholas Holt's blood for a while.

00:26:02.762 --> 00:26:04.517
It was still the way he did it though.

00:26:04.911 --> 00:26:09.073
Well, it's a very erotic thing, I think, Because it's also what's always shown for vampires.

00:26:09.093 --> 00:26:21.000
It's like their bite is endorphin-ducing Right, like their bite makes you want to cooperate Right, you know, it's like the same thing from other blood drinkers.

00:26:23.570 --> 00:26:27.960
Or the whole the books, the middle school girls when I was in middle school.

00:26:27.980 --> 00:26:28.820
What's it called?

00:26:28.882 --> 00:26:29.722
Edward Twilight.

00:26:29.722 --> 00:26:34.998
Yeah, twilight, the Twilight stuff, you know, the vampire, infatuation yeah school.

00:26:35.018 --> 00:26:35.358
What's it called?

00:26:35.358 --> 00:26:35.740
Edward Twilight?

00:26:35.740 --> 00:26:37.726
Yeah, Twilight, the Twilight stuff you know the vampire infatuation?

00:26:37.746 --> 00:26:38.647
Yeah, man, it's real, it's real, you're sexy.

00:26:38.647 --> 00:26:39.130
Yeah, and you like it.

00:26:39.130 --> 00:26:42.230
Now this guy knows for a while too, the Count.

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He ain't sexy.

00:26:43.273 --> 00:26:45.381
No, count Orlok.

00:26:46.251 --> 00:26:58.113
Dude, the voice was so good bro, that was so good bro, that was a.

00:26:58.113 --> 00:27:00.321
But like he count orlock is, I respect his mustache and I respect the homies just rocking that bald dome.

00:27:00.342 --> 00:27:04.058
It's just all he had was the mustache I'm surprised how young the actor is who played bill scars guard, yeah, yeah.

00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:12.741
So if you've seen bill scars guard, as like pennywise and stuff, you have a pretty good idea of, like, how he can transform his expressions, um, and change himself.

00:27:12.741 --> 00:27:22.412
But you know, he was absolutely phenomenal in this movie, um, and I thought, like, as count orlock, he really delivered like.

00:27:22.412 --> 00:27:28.411
I went in knowing he played count orlock and I still didn't believe it was him when I saw him on screen.

00:27:28.491 --> 00:27:41.597
I was like bill skarsgård's, like a shorter dude and this guy looks like 7'7" yeah and even then, like just the makeup and prosthetics, I was like it really just still doesn't look like him.

00:27:41.597 --> 00:27:42.070
It's crazy.

00:27:42.070 --> 00:27:46.122
But no, I really enjoyed that part.

00:27:46.122 --> 00:28:07.597
Anyways, narratively back to the story, I guess it essentially follows the same beats as Dracula, in that it's like oh, I have to go off and for some reason, all powerful vampires need to have a legally binding contract that they can move to a house, which was one of the weirdest things.

00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:14.284
I always wondered that because I listened to the audiobook the Bram Stoker audiobook as well which is really really good on audible.

00:28:14.284 --> 00:28:21.002
It's got like a bunch of different voice actors, it's read like a play and like it's performed very well.

00:28:21.002 --> 00:28:39.516
But, um, yeah, I always thought it was silly how like dracula needs this dude to bring him a deed and dracula can't just like roll into whatever house, right, or cause, like the lore is like you got a vampire has got to be invited in before it can enter, and I'm like well, what about a house that no one lives on?

00:28:39.516 --> 00:28:40.713
I feel like it's just a cave.

00:28:40.713 --> 00:28:41.917
At that point he could just go in.

00:28:42.559 --> 00:28:47.798
Right, or like the fact that this, in this case of this story, it wasn't even a contract for a house.

00:28:47.798 --> 00:28:53.451
It for a house.

00:28:53.451 --> 00:28:53.851
It was a contract.

00:28:53.851 --> 00:28:58.701
From the way I understood it, it was actually a contract for him uh, thomas to give her to him yeah, he resigned.

00:28:58.800 --> 00:28:59.582
He resigned.

00:28:59.582 --> 00:29:02.491
He rescinds his rights to her.

00:29:02.491 --> 00:29:05.900
As to her as like as his spouse right because he nullifies the marriage?

00:29:06.060 --> 00:29:07.451
yeah, but I don't think he.

00:29:07.451 --> 00:29:10.703
No, he knows something weird's going on when he signs it, but he doesn't know that's what's happening.

00:29:10.671 --> 00:29:11.670
Yeah, I mean it was definitely, if you see in the movie, I don't think he.

00:29:11.670 --> 00:29:12.750
No, he knows something weird's going on when he signs it, but he doesn't know that's what's happening.

00:29:12.718 --> 00:29:13.190
Yeah, I mean it was definitely if you see in the movie.

00:29:13.190 --> 00:29:15.405
I don't know if you can chicken scratch yeah, you notice it probably.

00:29:15.746 --> 00:29:23.189
I didn't know if you could see on your phone but, it was definitely written like super old, like romanian transylvanian.

00:29:23.189 --> 00:29:30.213
He said it is my, my forefather's language yeah, you know okay, yeah, I'm not gonna sign a binding contract.

00:29:30.775 --> 00:29:31.414
I can't read it.

00:29:31.414 --> 00:29:34.037
So even still to your point.

00:29:34.037 --> 00:29:39.520
It's like why does the vampire need that?

00:29:39.520 --> 00:29:39.941
I don't know.

00:29:40.881 --> 00:29:44.003
And I think that almost made more sense in this movie.

00:29:44.003 --> 00:29:45.263
I thought that made more sense.

00:29:45.284 --> 00:29:50.528
Because it was like signing the soul versus that's her husband versus to sign to go to a house.

00:29:51.009 --> 00:30:05.093
Yeah, versus like that's her husband, versus like the sign to go to a house, yeah, like he's sickly count orlock is sickly and still bound by like the rules of, you know, vampirism in the mystical or like the magic around and whatever.

00:30:05.093 --> 00:30:06.635
So he's still.

00:30:06.635 --> 00:30:25.920
He can't just like steal a woman like it's got to be quote unquote, true love right, which I think also goes in a good way and that like it can't be too rapey and that was always a thing that got like unsettled me about like the dracula stuff is that like it's very rapey.

00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:33.593
Like the dracula stuff is like dracula invites well, he doesn't invite, but this dude comes to sell him, give him the deed and sign everything to stay at his castle.

00:30:33.593 --> 00:30:43.699
And that's when he sees the locket of mina and he's like, oh, mina looks just like my dead wife and he's like I must possess her.

00:30:43.699 --> 00:30:53.603
And then, rather than like dracula having to like like win her over and convince her, like no, I'm the better deal here.

00:30:54.372 --> 00:30:57.343
Dracula just pretty much possesses chicks in those stories.

00:30:57.343 --> 00:31:01.617
He's like come here so I could drink your blood to then be one of my wives.

00:31:01.617 --> 00:31:34.013
And like they just have no self-control and self-will and like there was like the thing I really enjoyed about this movie is that ellen, she gets to really like she, she flips on the dial of like being seduced by like this, this, you know very, uh, otherworldly force that she has had an intimate connection with in the past, and then, like it being revealed, like no, this is a, this is a malicious force.

00:31:34.013 --> 00:31:37.340
This is a, this is a force that is that is evil and harmful.

00:31:37.340 --> 00:31:46.354
Oh, and it's like actually here and it it's trying to kill my husband, and not only kill him, but like it's gonna kill other people I care about.

00:31:46.453 --> 00:31:59.789
And so she like really flips on it and she, she has the like, the she has an internal battle, versus like uh, she has the autonomy and the autonomy, yeah, she has the autonomy and agency to be like no, like you're evil.

00:32:00.833 --> 00:32:08.502
I'm not gonna sleep with you, but there's a piece of her that wants it, I think it used to be there, like or like, there's a piece of her that dies, though I think it's that the fact that it's like.

00:32:08.765 --> 00:32:09.608
I think it dies, though.

00:32:09.608 --> 00:32:22.080
I think it's that the fact that it's like is like the almost like the, the internal struggle of of a human, even like around sin.

00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:27.700
I really don't want to do that, yeah, but it's calling to me and I want to like, like this.

00:32:27.700 --> 00:32:29.616
They at least play on some of that with.

00:32:29.616 --> 00:32:36.930
Like her, like there's just pieces of it that I feel like she's not just Evil and she's not just good.

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:38.826
She's like she's struggling with it.

00:32:38.826 --> 00:32:48.749
She wants To have a normal life, wants to just have her husband, but then it's just so rooted in her there is like a small Piece of her that's almost tortured to the Point of wanting to relent.

00:32:49.212 --> 00:33:00.732
I guess, like you know, and I think that only, but I really I think that only, but I really do think that only existed until she found out that orlock was trying to kill her husband thomas and I.

00:33:00.853 --> 00:33:04.903
Because after that moment there's never another time where she wants to give in to him.

00:33:04.903 --> 00:33:32.942
Because even when he comes to her, even when orlock comes through at night and she could kiss him, she denies him and says like I abhor you right, and the only reason she relents in the end is because she knows if she can keep him feeding on her until the cock crows at sunrise, yeah, then he'll die, right, um, and so it's one of those things where I really liked that part at the end of it.

00:33:32.942 --> 00:33:36.737
Like that was that was just the weird thing about.

00:33:36.737 --> 00:33:44.500
Like dracula again is like there was no real battle for me, like mean is like I have these feelings of possession.

00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:51.262
And then she's like I hate you, husband, get away from me, you're gross, I want to, you know, sleep with dracula.

00:33:51.262 --> 00:33:57.180
It's like what are you even fighting for at that point, dude, right, like I guess I just let her go.

00:33:58.951 --> 00:34:00.096
And that's what I feel like to her.

00:34:00.096 --> 00:34:12.952
I feel like it's like I feel like the Count Orlok or Nesferatu is like he's like heroin instead of like something good, like just something.

00:34:12.952 --> 00:34:13.293
That's like like.

00:34:13.293 --> 00:34:17.311
I feel like there's like a tiny piece where you're just like I don't want it, yeah, but there's like a I don't know that's for me.

00:34:17.311 --> 00:34:19.757
I feel like there was scenes, I think it was.

00:34:19.797 --> 00:34:21.260
I think it's less drastic than heroin.

00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:22.632
I think dracula is like heroin.

00:34:22.632 --> 00:34:28.233
I think orlock is more literally just an ex-boyfriend that's why, like like I literally think it's just like.

00:34:28.253 --> 00:34:35.092
She's's like, wow, like that feeling I had with like whatever the entity was, was such a powerful feeling, but it's not.

00:34:35.092 --> 00:34:37.079
It doesn't compare to my like husband.

00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:38.536
Now my husband is my true lover.

00:34:38.536 --> 00:34:42.400
And then it's like I don't think she ever wants to go back to it.

00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.612
She never will Like even when she's with Thomas.

00:34:44.612 --> 00:34:50.338
The reason she doesn't want Thomas to leave is because she's like I, I want you more than I want any of that stuff.

00:34:50.338 --> 00:34:58.507
And I'm afraid if you leave, I'll start having these visions again and these nightmares and these sleepwalking terrors.

00:34:58.507 --> 00:35:05.262
And then, of course, that happens, but she never consciously, when she's awake I think wants it.

00:35:05.262 --> 00:35:13.764
And then once she finds out her ex-boyfriend is trying to kill her husband, she's like okay, let's kill my ex-boyfriend.

00:35:14.489 --> 00:35:32.903
And I think the only thing like when we see her and Thomas arguing, I think that's just more her own, essential, like spiritual schizophrenia, like she has like essentially schizophrenia of not do I love Count Orlok, like is was count orlock telling me the truth?

00:35:32.903 --> 00:35:36.516
Did you really sell me for a bag of gold?

00:35:36.516 --> 00:35:38.099
Right, sign me away.

00:35:38.099 --> 00:35:47.692
It's not like she wants to be with the count, it's just like the flippant of, like anger and emotion there, which I think that was the scariest part of the movie.

00:35:47.692 --> 00:35:51.820
Like she does some facial expressions that were unreal.

00:35:51.820 --> 00:35:53.791
Look like how she contorted her face.

00:35:54.233 --> 00:35:56.539
Yeah, and I was like that's insane, bro.

00:35:56.539 --> 00:36:00.514
Like, like, because in my head I was like I literally looked at billy jean.

00:36:00.514 --> 00:36:02.179
I was like if you did this, I would leave.

00:36:02.179 --> 00:36:03.501
Yeah, like I would not.

00:36:03.501 --> 00:36:19.001
Like, because here's the thing right, she's doing these things that she's flipping back and forth and like, saying like, almost like possessed insults to thomas and she says, like something along the lines of like you could never please me the way he did.

00:36:19.001 --> 00:36:23.259
Yeah, as an in like, in a way to insult him into sex.

00:36:23.259 --> 00:36:28.476
Like to like, like, prove to me you're a good lover and a better lover than count orlock.

00:36:28.476 --> 00:36:36.096
And then they start having sex and then they have this like he gets this vision of her covered in blood and like panic freaks out of it.

00:36:36.336 --> 00:36:37.981
And I just looked at billy jean.

00:36:37.981 --> 00:36:40.594
I'm like I just want you to know this would never happen.

00:36:40.594 --> 00:36:45.653
The moment you said that to me, I would push you away from me and I would walk out the front door.

00:36:45.653 --> 00:36:48.561
I'd be like your vampire boyfriend can have you ass.

00:36:48.561 --> 00:36:51.436
Like, like, I don't.

00:36:51.436 --> 00:36:54.052
I just don't get it like I don't get the like.

00:36:54.052 --> 00:36:58.001
For me that was the part that was like out of, you know, in the vampire movie.

00:36:58.001 --> 00:37:02.130
The hardest thing for me to believe was like that guy wanted to have sex with his demon wife at that moment.

00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:09.054
So, like I don't know what were your thoughts of that, because like, yes, it was horrifying trying to picture my wife behaving that way.

00:37:09.054 --> 00:37:14.530
Right, also, I can't imagine I would respond any way that guy did.

00:37:15.512 --> 00:37:27.945
Yeah, I think um, the, from the, from the standpoint of, of a weak man of flesh.

00:37:27.945 --> 00:37:33.081
The manner in which she propositioned him was very hard to deny.

00:37:33.081 --> 00:37:42.197
But also I'm with you on the.

00:37:42.197 --> 00:37:47.083
Not a good time to be, you know.

00:37:47.083 --> 00:37:49.065
It's time to sit down and have a talk or something right.

00:37:49.650 --> 00:37:50.474
I'm not even having a talk.

00:37:50.474 --> 00:37:51.869
I'm leaving, bro, you're leaving.

00:37:51.869 --> 00:37:53.155
You're having demon moments.

00:37:53.275 --> 00:37:57.802
Yeah, now in his defense, he's completely effed by this point too.

00:37:57.802 --> 00:37:59.550
He's a mental wreck as well.

00:37:59.590 --> 00:38:00.735
He's also in demon mode.

00:38:02.516 --> 00:38:03.278
He's been after.

00:38:03.278 --> 00:38:06.193
So they're both just trying to figure it out.

00:38:06.193 --> 00:38:09.418
But yeah, I will say it was, that's what I guess.

00:38:09.418 --> 00:38:36.574
And to like the, this wasn't like overly sexual comparatively to like the, the Dracula movie or other movies, but like it was still just like in general, I just don't like evil, weird sex, you know, like I just kind of it kind of puts me, it puts me at une, at unease, makes me feel a little I'd hope so a little bit uh, right, which I think is what it is.

00:38:36.574 --> 00:38:37.496
It is a horror movie.

00:38:37.496 --> 00:38:45.719
They are trying to, uh, you know, uh, you know, make you feel uneasy right, but there's this also.

00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.856
Then there's just this piece around like like, how do you describe this?

00:38:49.856 --> 00:39:05.748
Okay, the best way I can describe this would be like you were when you were 13 or whatever, and an episode of law and order special victims unit came on, oh yeah, and they're talking about some graphic stuff we're talking about.

00:39:05.768 --> 00:39:07.958
The father raped his daughter and you're like it's bad.

00:39:07.958 --> 00:39:12.034
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that happened in the world right and but it's bad.

00:39:12.215 --> 00:39:22.840
Yeah, but you're kind of curious, like like, like there's like like like in a in a way being like in a not not like a sexual curiosity right or even, or even.

00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:33.182
I would actually say yes, but it's because it's blending the two and it's your brain's like I like boobs, I like, I think I like sexual things, but this is very bad.

00:39:33.182 --> 00:39:35.253
This is bad, yeah, and so that's it.

00:39:35.253 --> 00:39:41.494
When you're driving those two things together, it puts a very like um it's just unnerving.

00:39:41.514 --> 00:39:43.824
It's very unnerving to be like, like, like.

00:39:43.885 --> 00:39:48.655
Even some of the scenes in this where you're like that lady on the horse has a nice rack.

00:39:48.655 --> 00:39:52.163
Also, they're about to sacrifice her to a vampire.

00:39:52.242 --> 00:39:53.170
Well, no, no, no, no.

00:39:53.190 --> 00:40:11.217
They didn't sacrifice her Right, but, like you know, whatever they're about to do, Still naked lady on a horse objectively attractive, but there's scary funeral-y things going on and they're stabbing a corpse that vomits, you know, and you're like I'm there's confliction here.

00:40:11.217 --> 00:40:14.172
I that vomits, you know.

00:40:14.172 --> 00:40:15.217
And you're like I'm there's confliction here.

00:40:15.217 --> 00:40:15.398
I don't.

00:40:15.398 --> 00:40:16.302
I'm being unhinged unnerved, I don't like it.

00:40:16.302 --> 00:40:16.905
No, I get what you're saying.

00:40:16.925 --> 00:40:17.728
You know that's that sort of thing.

00:40:17.728 --> 00:40:18.672
It makes sense, for sure.

00:40:18.672 --> 00:40:22.842
It's uh, yeah, I, I, which is kind of what they're trying to do.

00:40:22.842 --> 00:40:24.331
That's the point of the movie I think.

00:40:24.331 --> 00:40:37.085
Right is to like like pull on one pathway in your brain and like make you disturbed, yeah, by like the association with it.

00:40:37.085 --> 00:40:55.438
Um, which also I thought that corpse when they stabbed it, because this was just a demonstration to show, like, how these transylvanian, romanian gypsies are aware of like the vampire lore and how they find them and track them down they stabbed that vampire in the grave.

00:40:56.650 --> 00:40:59.338
I thought it was just going to be a corpse and the corpse was just going to be dead.

00:40:59.338 --> 00:41:00.081
And then they did it.

00:41:00.081 --> 00:41:01.414
It was straight up a vampire.

00:41:01.414 --> 00:41:07.922
Yeah, they killed it and I was like, wait, how many Nosferatu's are there supposed to be in the Nosferatu movie?

00:41:07.922 --> 00:41:12.750
I kind of would have liked to see a little bit more there, right.

00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:25.512
The nosferatu movie I kind of would have liked to see a little bit more there, right, you know, a couple more like lesser vampires, because we don't really get like we know nosferatu's biting people and as he bites them it can kind of spread some like plague-like disease and rather than bats being kind of his.

00:41:25.512 --> 00:41:28.858
Uh, what's the word um?

00:41:28.858 --> 00:41:33.565
I can't like his surrogate hit like.

00:41:33.565 --> 00:41:36.719
Like Dracula's surrogates are bats Um.

00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:42.992
Rats are his surrogate in this film, or count Orlok surrogates even?

00:41:43.012 --> 00:41:43.996
though he's kind of batty.

00:41:44.652 --> 00:41:45.094
But he doesn't.

00:41:45.130 --> 00:41:47.458
He doesn't ever do a bad thing during the.

00:41:47.690 --> 00:41:49.096
I hear bad noises a couple of times.

00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:57.802
I'd say during the signing of the, the deed, he like flips and flaps and he just ends up on the other side of him.

00:41:57.802 --> 00:42:02.398
So it's like they kind of give you a little bit of it's all like sound, yeah, it's all sound.

00:42:02.398 --> 00:42:05.295
You never see him be a bat so he could be a rat.

00:42:05.295 --> 00:42:07.034
But yeah, it's like there's lots of.

00:42:07.034 --> 00:42:10.360
Instead of Dracula's got bats flying everywhere, this dude's got rats.

00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:14.878
I'd really like to see more of those other vampires.

00:42:14.878 --> 00:42:22.956
Just to get an idea, because that was another cool thing about um Dracula and maybe it's a copyright thing, right, and why they didn't do it.

00:42:22.956 --> 00:42:28.293
But Dracula has his wives of Dracula, which are all three, like you know, women.

00:42:28.293 --> 00:42:32.581
He's turned over the years and then he turns another lady into a vampire and it's all done with, like the bite you know, women.

00:42:32.581 --> 00:42:36.539
He's turned over the years and then he turns another lady into a vampire and it's all done with, like the bite you know.

00:42:36.539 --> 00:42:40.954
And he bites so many people in this movie that I was like when are the other vampires going to show up?

00:42:41.255 --> 00:42:41.817
that's I was.

00:42:42.197 --> 00:42:49.269
I was thinking that too, as far as like, or like when, or when he bit tom the first time I was like, oh, he's bad, he's a, he's a vampire now.

00:42:49.269 --> 00:42:53.853
But yeah, we're dealing with a little bit different adjacent lore.

00:42:53.853 --> 00:43:03.358
You know they're playing by their own rules and I think that's where, for me, some of this movie kind of broke down, of lore and things around it.

00:43:03.358 --> 00:43:19.860
I feel like I needed a little more story or explanation, and maybe you were just supposed to engage it for what it was right, which I think that isn't what the intent was.

00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:43.364
You know that you just engage this story for what it is, but, for instance, like that first scene where they, or that first scene with the other vampire where they um, tom sees it being hunted by the gypsies like it's just really, uh, all that serves as is a thing to let makes tom know he's in a crazy place.

00:43:43.485 --> 00:43:49.954
That's kind of weird now it's it like grounds, like oh, superstition, stuff is kind of real right and that vampires are real.

00:43:50.255 --> 00:43:52.972
Yeah, but we showed up to nosferatu, so we know that's real.

00:43:52.972 --> 00:43:58.391
You know, like, like, like, as far as like, establishing the like, I don't know so, like it felt like they needed more.

00:43:58.391 --> 00:44:17.081
I don't know like, even if there was a old lady in the village who just said, said a couple clarifying things about, like I don't know, setting up the rules or tying the story together, yeah, you know, warning him about the guy on the hill, I don't know, I don't know.

00:44:17.081 --> 00:44:18.773
So I felt like throughout the whole movie because it does.

00:44:20.737 --> 00:44:42.902
I don't know if it was just the intent to be kind of like these fever, dreamy chops in and out of what's real, what's not, um, but, and they did that to show like people coming in and out of sleep and not sure what's going on, not sure what's real, but then they also had like the pieces of, uh, you bring in like william defoe's character, who's like this expert, but then we really don't know.

00:44:42.902 --> 00:44:57.737
I feel like we didn't really know what the rules were, or like the and or also like the depth of his, his character supposed to be pretty epic and crazy vampire fighter type, but he's just, I don't know.

00:44:57.938 --> 00:44:59.951
I'm having trouble explaining it, but just to be like I get what you're saying.

00:44:59.990 --> 00:45:04.684
I think, though, that's all that I the truth is presumed.

00:45:05.106 --> 00:45:43.255
It's all presumed because of what came after this right like the truth is is like, uh, nosferatu was a much bigger movie and like bigger deal, and like all of our vampire lore is based off of that, and the reason I think that bram stoker's dracula, the film made by francis ford coppola, was such a success was because the people who were children in solid nose for ought to, or adults in their forties could take their teenagers with them to go see Bram Stoker's Dracula, and so, with that, it is one of those things of like.

00:45:43.811 --> 00:46:23.873
I do think this movie is cursed by adhering closely to its original source material and trying to add in a little bit more of like what the original source material was that wasn't included in the movie, because the original source material of this is brown soakers, dracula, and because we've seen those movies or we're so familiar with them and how they're brought in and how there's the rules of vampires and things like that, that like, there is a little bit of press opposition, and we're expecting, when we're going into this, we're not expecting willem dafoe to be literally kind of like more studious professor.

00:46:25.717 --> 00:46:44.637
Uh, not a badass we're expecting to be, you know, uh, hugh jackman's van helsing you know, that's just like what people think of when they think of van helsing, and I think really what it was supposed to be is like to show like hey, people believed in this.

00:46:45.358 --> 00:47:04.889
Like this is a thing people really truly believed, especially in like uh, where um nosferatu originally takes places like germany, and germany was really close to romania, a lot of romanian immigrants and stuff in transylvania like the 1800s, and so a lot of people were like hearing these things, like what are vampires?

00:47:04.889 --> 00:47:40.402
And then, like we know, for, without a doubt, like in germany and other parts of like europe, people were waking up and people were like all right, let's go kill that vampire, and they were like opening caskets of savvy things, and so it's one of those things where, like, I think like this is actually more simplified and also like, if you just look at it from the perspective of like plague and people wearing lead makeup and eating, like you know, poisonous food off of plates and wearing corsets and taking like snake oil medicines.

00:47:40.862 --> 00:47:45.284
Yeah, this whole movie could have absolutely happened in someone's fever dream.

00:47:45.284 --> 00:47:57.422
Yeah, and just everyone who died as a result of the plague and the freaking walking in on your dead wife in this corpse of a person on top of her could happen.

00:47:57.422 --> 00:48:03.121
Like you could literally come home during these days and age and someone riddled with plague is dead on top of your spouse.

00:48:03.282 --> 00:48:28.016
Like I don't think that was on, like unreal right so like it's I think it's all of it is like supposed to come off as like yes, this is like the origin, like how, and it's not necessarily supposed to scare you today, but it is supposed to come off as like yes, this is the origin, and it's not necessarily supposed to scare you today, but it is supposed to make you understand why this was so freaking scary, then I did like that part of this where they did incorporate a lot of the superstitious, like mythical medicine.

00:48:28.911 --> 00:48:32.175
She needs to be bled, or that scene where she's like I'll give her more ether.

00:48:32.315 --> 00:48:37.778
Yeah, I told Billy I'm gonna do that to you.

00:48:37.778 --> 00:48:42.632
I'll give her more ether Cuz I?

00:48:42.632 --> 00:48:43.454
Billy G looked at me.

00:48:43.454 --> 00:48:46.264
He's like you, just gore for like, oh yeah.

00:48:46.364 --> 00:48:48.030
Yeah, he's been doing that for the past couple hours.

00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:57.815
He's just keeping her, keeping her leveled out, yeah, and you know, or put a corset on her tighter because it helps like blood flow, to like her like uterus, whatever, like all these squeeze the blood out.

00:48:57.815 --> 00:49:03.434
Yeah, it's like whatever all this stuff, but um, and so they did this, it.

00:49:03.434 --> 00:49:08.942
This movie didn't feel wildly supernatural, yeah, compared to other things we've seen.

00:49:09.121 --> 00:49:43.295
Yeah, yeah, so while there was possession, vampires, supernatural powers, it did allow for um, uh, kind of, yeah, blending that old world, mythical, medical science with also like the um, the supernatural lore of vampires and those things, and so, yeah, it was believable in that sense where it wasn't just, you know, a guy turning into a bat flying away and like all this overly theatrical stuff.

00:49:43.295 --> 00:49:55.989
I mean, yeah, and it did feel um the way that they brought the audience into the mindset of a person at this time Of what was going on, because then you have the character, the friend.

00:49:55.989 --> 00:49:56.536
What's his name?

00:49:56.536 --> 00:50:00.516
Cedric or Friedrich Aaron Taylor Johnson, the guy who played Kick-Ass.

00:50:01.614 --> 00:50:02.177
I think he's.

00:50:02.177 --> 00:50:06.186
Let me just make sure I'm double checking.

00:50:06.186 --> 00:50:09.590
Is he someone's brother or sister?

00:50:09.590 --> 00:50:14.117
I thought he was Ellen's brother for a very long time.

00:50:14.117 --> 00:50:18.168
He might just be their friend, but I thought he was Ellen's brother.

00:50:18.168 --> 00:50:22.699
And Ellen goes by Ellen Hutter because Thomas Hutter is her husband, right?

00:50:22.699 --> 00:50:27.076
But there was nothing I heard that overly confirmed that.

00:50:27.076 --> 00:50:31.335
But she says to him at one point why do you hate me?

00:50:31.335 --> 00:50:34.628
You've always hated me and I thought that was like kind of like a.

00:50:34.628 --> 00:50:35.791
Did they grow up together?

00:50:35.811 --> 00:50:37.114
Yeah, we're siblings.

00:50:37.114 --> 00:50:37.737
What's going on?

00:50:38.746 --> 00:50:41.534
Because there was also like no moment of sexual tension between them.

00:50:41.534 --> 00:50:43.574
So that's why I thought it was like a sibling too.

00:50:43.673 --> 00:50:59.585
Oh yeah, because, like he, he clearly never sees her in that light no, yeah, and I was wondering, like at least I felt like we, the audience was him, oh yeah, like he is the, the vessel that is the audience.

00:50:59.664 --> 00:51:00.286
It was great.

00:51:00.286 --> 00:51:01.188
Yeah, it's phenomenal.

00:51:01.188 --> 00:51:02.391
Everyone was good in this movie.

00:51:02.492 --> 00:51:04.315
I don't think there's anyone who's bad it was.

00:51:04.315 --> 00:51:23.550
It was good, uh good, acting and and, but for him his character was like, just like no, it's not a vampire like this is like a plague like like what the hell is going on, like you're mentally ill I'm going to tie you to the bed this professor is my children are in this house, isn't that like I don't know what's going?

00:51:23.570 --> 00:51:35.286
like this is, this is all bs, you know, like kind of like level-headed, just kind of normal, just a normal dude found himself in this very weird, scary supernatural story.

00:51:35.286 --> 00:51:41.036
So I think the audience, I think he is the, he is us in the story as we get pulled through it.

00:51:41.137 --> 00:51:42.820
I didn't even think of that, but I totally agree.

00:51:42.820 --> 00:51:51.523
And ultimately he dies holding on to the memory of what he's lost.

00:51:51.523 --> 00:52:21.110
Right, he literally goes to the, to the grave, the mausoleum of his wife and daughters, and rather than you know face, face what is coming, he'd rather just kind of like hold on to what was once was and like die with it in his arms yeah and which was weird because I I didn't see him seeming to contract the disease at all, right up until the final scene, when he's like going to die there and then the disease is like on his face oh yeah, you know what I mean.

00:52:21.130 --> 00:52:29.110
Uh, I was hoping that those three girls were gonna, like his two daughters and wife were gonna come back as vampires.

00:52:29.110 --> 00:52:30.255
I was so ready for that.

00:52:30.255 --> 00:52:33.266
Oh yeah, like vampire showdown in the funeral in the cemetery.

00:52:33.266 --> 00:52:36.012
That would have been sick I did.

00:52:36.172 --> 00:52:40.088
I got angry when nosferatu killed those kids you got angry.

00:52:40.269 --> 00:52:45.813
I was not happy about that like are you like this movie's awful or were you like kill this vampire?

00:52:45.934 --> 00:52:50.277
yeah and more like that, just like I was just like yeah at first I was like you know, yeah, that's it.

00:52:50.317 --> 00:53:12.807
I was like, I was like this is really dark dream, yeah, and I was like then it was like cut to caskets and I was like oh my gosh, they killed those kids tiny fat casket that's honestly the way to do it, though, and like the very like just enough of a silhouette and shadow to know what is happening, without a doubt.

00:53:12.807 --> 00:53:21.130
Yeah, but not like too gory or graphic when it comes to kids and stuff and yeah, yeah, like it was.

00:53:21.331 --> 00:53:22.414
I felt like it was tasteful.

00:53:22.414 --> 00:53:27.456
I don't know if there's a way you could do it, that would be it was impactful.

00:53:27.456 --> 00:53:33.498
You see their silhouette of him holding one dead girl and then drinking the blood out of the other one.

00:53:33.498 --> 00:53:38.284
He drops their bodies and you're like, oh damn, did he just kill those kids?

00:53:38.284 --> 00:53:46.536
And it's enough to know like this could be happening without it just being like an illusion or a fever dream.

00:53:46.536 --> 00:53:56.311
Yeah, but it did make me think like, oh wow, we got to kill him and I really thought we were going to get Friedrich Harding, aaron Taylor Johnson's character.

00:53:56.311 --> 00:54:01.494
I really thought he was going to be like, all right, let's go freaking, kill this vampire before I die.

00:54:02.365 --> 00:54:06.657
He just wanted to hold on to the reality he had before all this.

00:54:06.657 --> 00:54:07.929
I'd be devastated too.

00:54:10.885 --> 00:54:20.050
That said, too, the only other character that we haven't really mentioned, or two characters that we haven't mentioned that I thought really really were standouts, I mean, I think Ralph Ineson.

00:54:20.050 --> 00:54:20.974
I've always liked him.

00:54:20.974 --> 00:54:27.505
He's in um, the witch or the vich, depending on how you pronounce it, but it was like robert egger's first movie.

00:54:27.505 --> 00:54:39.034
He's great and he's in a couple other ones, but he's like the classic british guy with like an insanely deep voice, um, but he played dr wilhelm sievers in this and I thought he was really good.

00:54:39.034 --> 00:54:46.068
Um, dude, but simon mcbirney played knock, is that?

00:54:46.108 --> 00:54:48.833
the, uh, the boss, yeah, like the like.

00:54:48.853 --> 00:55:06.771
Yeah, the, the servant of, of the count he was the servant of count orlock but was also the employer of uh thomas and never seen that guy before or at least I'm not aware of anything I saw him in, but he was excellent.

00:55:06.771 --> 00:55:10.103
Like I never thought his mad craziness was over the top.

00:55:10.103 --> 00:55:19.193
I always thought it was like perfectly balanced and uh, yeah, this is what a crazy guy sounds like and uh, it was very unsettling.

00:55:19.193 --> 00:55:21.018
He was probably the most unsettling part of the whole movie.

00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:24.652
Especially since at the beginning I thought he was good.

00:55:24.652 --> 00:55:28.911
Really, at the beginning I was like this guy's huffing lead paint.

00:55:28.911 --> 00:55:29.614
Yeah.

00:55:31.485 --> 00:55:33.751
Because he was giggling in the room and I was like what the?

00:55:33.773 --> 00:55:34.405
hell is going on with this dude?

00:55:34.405 --> 00:55:36.351
That's true.

00:55:36.351 --> 00:55:37.215
I just thought he was like.

00:55:37.215 --> 00:55:40.228
I thought he was on Thomas' team.

00:55:40.228 --> 00:55:42.094
I should say Not that he was like.

00:55:42.094 --> 00:55:43.077
I thought he was on Thomas's team.

00:55:43.077 --> 00:55:44.983
I should say not that he was like evil, like that, you know, just like.

00:55:44.983 --> 00:55:49.853
And then all of a sudden I was like, oh my God, oh he's in a room on top of like a seven sided star.

00:55:49.853 --> 00:55:53.554
Yeah, yeah, but naked like carving into himself.

00:55:53.554 --> 00:55:57.835
I was like, okay, we've gone, this is bad.

00:56:03.125 --> 00:56:04.329
That's the thing, though, is like what's he originally?

00:56:04.329 --> 00:56:06.336
Orlock's servant, or did orlock's spirit just reach out and possess some poor bastard?

00:56:06.336 --> 00:56:15.972
Right, because that was the thing that I also think was scary is like, how terrifying is the thought that you could just be like the head of a real estate firm and one day start getting dreams from a vampire.

00:56:16.271 --> 00:56:42.472
This is like, be my servant and I will reward you Like that's pretty crazy, and going back all the way to the beginning of the movie, them two are she knew he was getting called away before he did, so that would also lend you to believe that, like she's kind of always been hanging out with him in her dreams and like he talks to her, I don't.

00:56:42.744 --> 00:56:43.969
He couldn't though for a while.

00:56:43.969 --> 00:56:44.932
You know, that was the thing it was like.

00:56:44.932 --> 00:56:53.012
While Thomas was around, he wasn't able to get through to her, and I think that was the biggest thing is like she was afraid once Thomas left.

00:56:53.012 --> 00:56:54.746
I think she knew Thomas was leaving.

00:56:54.746 --> 00:56:58.692
I don't think she knew it was to go to the source of the evil.

00:56:59.211 --> 00:57:02.115
But she knew once Thomas left she'd have these issues again.

00:57:02.115 --> 00:57:14.090
Infirmities Okay, I got some trivia, but before we do that, let's give our final thoughts.

00:57:14.090 --> 00:57:24.931
I'll say this I'm not defensive over this because I think like a quarter of the way through I was like oh, that's just like dracula.

00:57:24.931 --> 00:57:27.175
Oh, that's just like dracula.

00:57:27.175 --> 00:57:28.985
And then I was like, oh, this is just dracula.

00:57:28.985 --> 00:57:31.793
And I was like I knew it was a copy of dracula.

00:57:31.793 --> 00:57:37.806
I didn't know it was a freaking like I didn't know, it was like a hey man, here's my essay.

00:57:38.447 --> 00:57:40.510
Use it, it as a reference, don't copy it.

00:57:40.510 --> 00:57:40.969
I didn't know.

00:57:40.969 --> 00:57:57.302
It was like literally like just changing the first name on that essay to be your own Right, and it was really good, but it did make me think like man, I should watch Francis Ford Coppola's, bram Stoker's Dracula again, because that might've been better, right.

00:57:57.302 --> 00:57:59.391
But, it was definitely cheesier.

00:57:59.391 --> 00:58:05.335
It know, 80s cheesy and this I didn't think was cheesy at all right, because this one did have.

00:58:06.018 --> 00:58:11.853
I will say what I was impressed with was the visuals, the scenes, that dude, that hand reaching across the city.

00:58:12.675 --> 00:58:14.286
Oh yeah, blew my mind away.

00:58:14.286 --> 00:58:15.750
Yeah, like that I.

00:58:15.750 --> 00:58:18.496
The whole time I was watching that I was like is this a miniature set?

00:58:18.496 --> 00:58:20.932
Right, this does not look fake at all.

00:58:21.313 --> 00:58:28.871
Yeah, it was I, I could not tell same where it began or ended same with the old castles they were in, I'm like is this a real place, was this film?

00:58:28.911 --> 00:58:29.773
it was a real place.

00:58:29.833 --> 00:58:34.114
It was like I was like oh, this isn't like a set, this is like a real castle in romania.

00:58:34.114 --> 00:58:34.958
This is crazy.

00:58:34.958 --> 00:58:42.797
And then um, and then just in general, like the, the use of the scenes and the cuts and the camera angles and everything.

00:58:42.797 --> 00:58:47.456
It was really well done in that sense, you know, and it was, it was pleasant to look at the whole time.

00:58:47.456 --> 00:58:54.405
Yeah, yep, definitely, which also, which is also like very, that's not what you expect out of horror movies, right?

00:58:54.445 --> 00:59:04.041
you usually expect like just budget sets just budget stuff, haunt yeah, hey man, let's just film in this haunted house warehouse Exactly.

00:59:04.724 --> 00:59:07.974
Hey, could you leave this warehouse set up for like an extra week after Halloween?

00:59:07.974 --> 00:59:08.697
We can film in here?

00:59:08.697 --> 00:59:11.864
Yeah, no, that part of this was really well done.

00:59:11.864 --> 00:59:38.518
The cast had some big stars and then also had some not a ton know, william defobian, definitely the yeah, the biggest out of them, but then had other actors who were held their own in it and it didn't feel like I was watching acting, you know I I can't think of anyone who I thought was bad, like there's no one who I was like you're being carried like even anna harding, who was like the best friend of emma.

00:59:38.766 --> 00:59:40.155
I don't think it was overacted.

00:59:40.155 --> 00:59:44.588
I don't think it was overacted, I don't think it was underacted, I thought she just did a great job.

00:59:44.588 --> 01:00:11.297
Excuse me, and I thought, like the kids were fine, you know they're in scene for like what 30 seconds, but it's one of those things where there's no one, you're just like, oh gosh, like they really don't date, whereas, like bro, if you do watch the Dracula film with Keanu Reeves, it's like it's watching Ted from Bill and Ted.

01:00:11.376 --> 01:00:13.257
It's watching Bill and Ted go to see Dracula.

01:00:13.297 --> 01:00:17.061
You know it is, bro, it's like Ted, like Dracula, my dude.

01:00:17.061 --> 01:00:25.969
It's just like I hear you want to move to england.

01:00:25.969 --> 01:00:28.096
It was like so hard to like watch that movie because it's it's.

01:00:28.096 --> 01:00:31.728
It's well before keanu went to the like school of acting you know what I mean?

01:00:31.768 --> 01:00:33.998
yeah, or were they like let's stop giving this guy lines?

01:00:33.998 --> 01:00:36.047
Yeah, it's good, good facial features.

01:00:36.047 --> 01:00:36.429
So funny.

01:00:36.570 --> 01:00:39.684
It's so funny, though, like you watch it and you're like this is incredible.

01:00:39.684 --> 01:00:41.028
This is incredible.

01:00:41.028 --> 01:00:46.414
This is francis fordpola, the dude who made the Godfather, and he cast Keanu Reeves as, like, the lead.

01:00:46.414 --> 01:00:53.092
And then there's, like, anthony Hopkins, who steals every single scene he's in, or Gary Oldman as Dracula.

01:00:53.092 --> 01:00:58.846
So it's a great movie, but you got to let go in and be like expect it to like bear through it.

01:00:58.865 --> 01:01:01.409
Okay, all that said you got to let go in and be like.

01:01:01.409 --> 01:01:02.851
No, expect it to like bear through it.

01:01:02.851 --> 01:01:04.072
Um, okay, all that said.

01:01:04.072 --> 01:01:08.057
Um, anything else, before you want to review it, no, no, I think that's it.

01:01:08.398 --> 01:01:10.521
Okay, it does have really good reviews.

01:01:10.521 --> 01:01:18.097
Like if you're talking horror, you'd be hard pressed to find a horror movie that has as good of reviews from both critics and audience.

01:01:18.097 --> 01:01:23.248
It's usually one or the other reviews from both critics and audience.

01:01:23.248 --> 01:01:23.889
It's usually one or the other.

01:01:23.889 --> 01:01:42.690
Um, I'm gonna give it a thumb up just because well, not just because I genuinely think it's a good cinematic experience and I think that the criticism of it is mostly blown out of proportion, like if I was to stack this up against any other kind of horror movie I've seen in the last couple of years.

01:01:43.987 --> 01:01:48.452
I think it is, like you know, better acting.

01:01:48.452 --> 01:01:57.291
I think the the story may be simple and old, but it's still told in a way that I was.

01:01:57.291 --> 01:01:58.454
I enjoyed watching.

01:01:58.615 --> 01:01:58.976
Like it's.

01:01:59.465 --> 01:02:01.452
I've heard it a hundred times, but the hundred and first time.

01:02:01.452 --> 01:02:11.572
I've heard it a hundred times but the hundred and first time I just saw it was still pretty good and uh, visually I thought it was a, it was beautiful to watch, like I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

01:02:11.572 --> 01:02:17.311
Uh, and like, like you said, you know the effects and how they did things, so it gets a solid thumb up for me.

01:02:17.311 --> 01:02:23.909
I can't give it two thumbs because I just don't think it's that good, because it is.

01:02:23.909 --> 01:02:25.751
It's, it's dracula, like that.

01:02:25.751 --> 01:02:27.856
You know what I mean.

01:02:27.856 --> 01:02:29.666
Um, so, all right, a thumb up from mick.

01:02:29.666 --> 01:02:30.487
What about you, pat?

01:02:31.030 --> 01:02:32.193
I would, I would.

01:02:32.193 --> 01:02:33.739
I'm giving a thumb up as well.

01:02:33.739 --> 01:02:34.902
Really I am.

01:02:34.902 --> 01:02:36.646
I was anticipating you giving a thumb down.

01:02:36.646 --> 01:02:37.108
Well, because?

01:02:37.108 --> 01:02:38.110
No, because here's the deal.

01:02:38.110 --> 01:02:43.007
Like most of my, you're also not a horror guy so this is a big thing for me.

01:02:43.027 --> 01:02:44.210
Well, I mean and that's what I'm.

01:02:44.210 --> 01:02:50.420
What I'm saying is, like, the things I don't like about it are, just because I don't like this, like you know what I mean.

01:02:50.420 --> 01:02:54.831
Like I want the knight on the horse and he slays the monster.

01:02:54.831 --> 01:02:56.496
Yeah, he rides off with the lady.

01:02:56.496 --> 01:03:06.831
Like that's what I want, you know, so it'd be like you know, like, so the the I'm taking myself out of this, just objectively to this movie and what it is like.

01:03:06.831 --> 01:03:10.538
Um, it wasn't cheesy, it was well done.

01:03:10.538 --> 01:03:33.974
Um, I think that, um, there's a reason why a lot of people like it, people like these, this genre and stuff, and it's not, while it is a re retelling, a remake and a ripoff it is it still stands alone and doesn't feel like it's um, it doesn't feel like all those things.

01:03:34.125 --> 01:03:37.632
It doesn't feel like a, a remake, ripoff and a retelling of something Right.

01:03:37.632 --> 01:03:46.931
So it's um, the act, the acting is great, the directing, um, and, like I was saying, the visuals and these scenes they're there.

01:03:46.931 --> 01:03:57.757
Um, yeah, I just especially the scenes that were around, like that first act where thomas goes to the castle, like that whole thing was it was.

01:03:57.757 --> 01:04:00.150
It was good, it's gripping, it's mysterious.

01:04:00.150 --> 01:04:00.954
I it's mysterious.

01:04:00.954 --> 01:04:02.197
I was really unsettled.

01:04:02.197 --> 01:04:15.990
You think you know what's going on only because you know the story, but otherwise you, because of the directing, you're like I don't know what's going on and I just know something wild is.

01:04:15.990 --> 01:04:21.411
You know, I just know what Thomas knows, which is I don't think I'm supposed to be here right now.

01:04:23.427 --> 01:04:25.313
And so I think it's a good movie.

01:04:25.313 --> 01:04:35.110
If you don't like blood, you don't like sexual explicit things, whatever, this isn't it, fam?

01:04:35.110 --> 01:04:36.309
Yeah, definitely not for you.

01:04:36.684 --> 01:04:38.690
But if you don't like blood, don't watch movies with vampires.

01:04:39.032 --> 01:04:40.315
Exactly, Exactly.

01:04:40.315 --> 01:04:42.842
But if you don't like blood, don't watch movies with vampires.

01:04:42.842 --> 01:04:43.244
Exactly, Exactly so.

01:04:43.244 --> 01:04:49.737
But I've seen lots, plenty of other vampire type movies too that aren't that I wouldn't give a thumb up to.

01:04:49.737 --> 01:04:54.436
I like them more because it is like being schlocky yeah.

01:04:54.965 --> 01:04:55.246
Or it's like.

01:04:55.246 --> 01:04:59.996
It is like vampire slayer-y, you know, like big fight scene.

01:04:59.996 --> 01:05:18.657
Letting out like these things versus like this does more justice to the old stories of a vampire and how they, like we were talking about, like you know, the legends that were coming out in these times of you know, a whole town died from a plague.

01:05:18.657 --> 01:05:20.190
It was a vampire.

01:05:20.190 --> 01:05:21.456
You know what's going on here.

01:05:21.496 --> 01:05:32.335
There's confusion, um so, yeah, I think I'm going thumbs up, thumbs up for it, heck yeah well, dude, hey, two thumbs up for a horror movie at the mickey pat show is pretty, pretty great for a horror movie.

01:05:32.335 --> 01:05:42.554
I mean, I'm a big horror fan but it takes a lot to get two thumbs up for me for movies and, uh, to even, you know, get any favor from pat for a horror movie.

01:05:42.554 --> 01:05:44.108
That's a, that's a big compliment there.

01:05:44.108 --> 01:05:47.597
So, um, a couple things that I thought about too just while you're saying that.

01:05:47.597 --> 01:05:50.128
That I thought was like good to make note of too.

01:05:50.128 --> 01:05:54.556
Um, uh, is that another one?

01:05:54.556 --> 01:05:59.291
Is that it it doesn't play into the tropes of what I think a lot of people were expecting.

01:05:59.291 --> 01:06:13.797
Like there was almost like the teasing of like crosses and crucifixes, but there's and there's, I think I remember a teasing of a mirror, right, but like you never really get any of those rules right.

01:06:13.876 --> 01:06:20.456
Or like one guy who's has garlic on and a wooden stake and a crucifix yeah, a silver bullet, just in case.

01:06:20.755 --> 01:06:25.070
We don't even know if a spike of iron would have killed Nosferatu.

01:06:25.070 --> 01:06:28.425
Really we know it looks like they killed that one vampire with.

01:06:28.425 --> 01:06:31.108
Was it a sword or an axe?

01:06:32.452 --> 01:06:33.014
Something pointy.

01:06:33.014 --> 01:06:35.590
I couldn't tell what it was.

01:06:37.034 --> 01:06:43.175
The other thing Billie Jean said and this is the classic Billie Jean response, but I genuinely think she meant it for this movie.

01:06:43.175 --> 01:06:44.550
She said it wasn't scary.

01:06:45.806 --> 01:06:48.706
That's actually what I was about to say for this movie as a horror.

01:06:48.706 --> 01:06:57.574
As someone who doesn't like horror, I will say I liked it because it also wasn't that scary and or over the top evil.

01:06:57.574 --> 01:06:59.650
It fit into a box.

01:06:59.650 --> 01:07:00.534
This is evil.

01:07:00.534 --> 01:07:02.050
This is good and bad.

01:07:02.050 --> 01:07:17.913
But we're not going like just off the rails into like complete like these, these spots where you the horror movies I don't like to be in that are just like but Pat yeah, is Count Orlok scary.

01:07:19.338 --> 01:07:20.844
Yes, but he's not.

01:07:20.844 --> 01:07:25.309
It's not as scary as other horror movies that are just like wait until you see.

01:07:25.690 --> 01:07:26.211
Sorry, go ahead.

01:07:26.211 --> 01:07:29.688
It's just just like, like those movies that are just evil for the sake of being evil.

01:07:29.688 --> 01:07:31.514
This is at least like a.

01:07:31.514 --> 01:07:35.925
There is a good force, like the professor.

01:07:35.925 --> 01:07:44.619
There is evil in the world and there is also like like for our lead, ellen, like there is an internal conflict.

01:07:44.619 --> 01:07:55.418
It's not just only possessed writhing on a bed, there's no hope, there's weird stuff like, just like complete debauchery, just people dying for no reason, like I don't know.

01:07:55.418 --> 01:07:59.956
So I will say that's also a part of why I like this in the horror genre as well.

01:07:59.956 --> 01:08:01.492
I think that lots of people could watch this in the horror genre as well.

01:08:01.492 --> 01:08:03.916
I think that lots of people could watch this and be like I didn't like that.

01:08:03.916 --> 01:08:14.769
That was creepy, but it didn't leave me, like you know, curled up in a ball, you know whatever bro, wait until you see gary oldman's dracula with two giant like boobs on his head.

01:08:14.891 --> 01:08:16.534
Oh yeah, from his hairdo, his hairdo.

01:08:16.555 --> 01:08:18.206
Looks like two breasts are on his head.

01:08:18.206 --> 01:08:21.453
Oh yeah, um, okay, here's my thing.

01:08:21.453 --> 01:08:28.764
I this is, this is the main thing I want to bring up post post review is I think count orlock is silly to girls.

01:08:28.764 --> 01:08:42.273
I think girls will see count orlock with his big mustache and his bald head and his creepy long fingers and his creepy long, and I think they'll be like kind of seems like, uh, he's a little gay, kind of seems like freddie mercury type to me.

01:08:42.273 --> 01:08:43.775
He's scary.

01:08:43.775 --> 01:08:50.167
I think he's scary looking dude and maybe that's scary to me because he looks like the dude maybe who would try to get me.

01:08:50.167 --> 01:08:51.032
You know what I mean.

01:08:51.032 --> 01:09:04.054
Like count orlock comes out, like he gives me the behavior of a dude who, like he might try to get with me while I'm sleeping in his castle, and that's scarier to me than dracula, who's uninterested in me at all, and he has rasputin vibes.

01:09:04.094 --> 01:09:07.466
He does dude yeah I, I, uh, I joked with billy jean.

01:09:07.466 --> 01:09:12.386
Since I got the mustache all grown out, I think I might go as count warlock for, uh, halloween.

01:09:12.386 --> 01:09:16.154
Oh really, yeah, bald cap, and just I'm tall, I could.

01:09:16.154 --> 01:09:17.158
I feel like I could do it.

01:09:17.158 --> 01:09:19.287
Put some contacts in.

01:09:19.287 --> 01:09:22.074
Uh, I have to work on that voice though.

01:09:22.074 --> 01:09:25.412
Okay, got some trivia here for everyone.

01:09:25.412 --> 01:09:28.573
There wasn't really any goofs in the movie, so that's nice to always see that.

01:09:28.573 --> 01:09:29.908
It was like a nice.

01:09:29.908 --> 01:09:34.658
You know they had really good editors, but trivia one.

01:09:34.863 --> 01:09:40.341
The word Nosferatu isn't a word with really any meaning in Romanian.

01:09:40.341 --> 01:09:43.377
Isn't a word with really any meaning in Romanian?

01:09:43.377 --> 01:09:53.792
It's believed that Bram Stoker first learned of this word from an article back in the 1880s and the only other previous usage of it was a German article on vampires in 1865.

01:09:53.792 --> 01:10:00.161
But both sources claim the word is Romanian and the term has no meaning in Romanian.

01:10:00.161 --> 01:10:08.996
There's no like definition for it, um, so it's either always just been that thing, that that it was about right, or it's not a real word.

01:10:08.996 --> 01:10:10.019
It was just made up right.

01:10:10.019 --> 01:10:18.957
Um will and defoe when he did the scene burning the um, burning the mausoleum down.

01:10:18.957 --> 01:10:26.755
I'm not sorry, not the mausoleum, burning the manor down Was filmed with a live 2000 live rats.

01:10:27.945 --> 01:10:29.613
How do you get them all back in that cage?

01:10:29.613 --> 01:10:30.849
They didn't get them all back.

01:10:30.849 --> 01:10:32.092
Lot of cheese.

01:10:32.314 --> 01:10:39.733
Yeah, bill Skarsgård trained with an opera coach to lower his voice an octave to make the voice of Count Orlok as deep as possible.

01:10:39.733 --> 01:10:39.922
It was very good.

01:10:39.922 --> 01:10:40.408
He said he had to train for like six weeks.

01:10:40.408 --> 01:10:41.648
Coach, to lower his voice an octave to make the voice of count or lock as deep as possible.

01:10:41.648 --> 01:10:42.193
It was very good.

01:10:42.193 --> 01:10:52.027
He said he had to train for like six weeks and that's all he did for six weeks was just like rehearse the voice, wow, and just day in and day out and record himself and they'd tell him how to do it lower.

01:10:52.027 --> 01:10:56.475
Um, flowers often carry symbolism.

01:10:56.475 --> 01:11:03.476
And then this movie, purple lilacs are, you know, in the beginning and the end, heavily symbolical.

01:11:03.476 --> 01:11:08.157
Wait, symbolic, heavily symbolic, yeah, symbolical.

01:11:08.157 --> 01:11:16.958
So, purple lilacs, there's specific variants.

01:11:16.958 --> 01:11:38.770
The lighter shade of purple are traditionally associated with one's first love or the first time one feels love for someone an important theme in this movie when uh count orlock takes the locket, he says lilac, yeah yeah, uh, the film's budget was only 50 million, which I was shocked by, like how good this movie looks.

01:11:39.612 --> 01:11:42.438
Yeah, this movie looks as good to me visually.

01:11:42.958 --> 01:11:50.992
There's a lot of way more expensive movies that don't look this good I will say this movie looks just as good visual to, visually to me, as dune, like I've.

01:11:50.992 --> 01:11:55.479
I believe arrakis is real, like I see arrakis.

01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:56.306
I'm like that's real.

01:11:56.306 --> 01:12:04.644
I also see this 1880s village we not village, but 1880s England and I'm like that's also real.

01:12:04.644 --> 01:12:06.067
How did they record this there?

01:12:06.067 --> 01:12:09.454
You know, this is so very visceral and real looking.

01:12:09.454 --> 01:12:14.110
So I do think the money was paid very well here, spent very well, I guess.

01:12:14.110 --> 01:12:24.409
Um, because it's visually stunning and they're like you know Pat said the flash cost what 250 million dollars and looked like dog duty.

01:12:25.832 --> 01:12:33.470
Um francis ford coppola's last movie was, um, it was a, the big one.

01:12:33.470 --> 01:12:34.653
It was called uh.

01:12:34.653 --> 01:12:37.719
It was like the movie he has wanted to make for years.

01:12:37.719 --> 01:12:40.198
I can't remember the name of it.

01:12:40.198 --> 01:12:41.304
It was his most recent movie.

01:12:41.304 --> 01:12:43.047
I just came out with, um adam driver.

01:12:43.047 --> 01:12:53.373
It cost 100 million dollars or more and it was trash and the cgi and visuals in it are like so bad at times they're like awful green screen.

01:12:53.373 --> 01:12:56.279
Um, and then uh.

01:12:56.279 --> 01:13:05.654
Last bit of trivia here, nosferatu is of course this unauthorized adaption of brahm stoker's dracula and florence stoker, brahm's widow.

01:13:05.654 --> 01:13:10.085
Uh sued one and had most prints of the film destroyed.

01:13:10.085 --> 01:13:22.627
So the fact that any prints of this film survived and led to like this cult classic is kind of a miracle, because she tried to destroy it and root it out wherever it existed in 1922, like when it came out.

01:13:22.686 --> 01:13:29.838
Okay, yeah wow, um, so anyways, uh, those are the cool, fun trivia things here.

01:13:29.838 --> 01:13:37.895
Um, I guess, pat, is there any other kind of points you want to talk about before we sign off?

01:13:39.637 --> 01:13:41.479
I'll say the you know credit to.

01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:47.395
Oh, his name's Jaron Blaschki.

01:13:47.395 --> 01:14:00.649
He's the director of photography For the and it looks like he's Been teamed up with the director, robert Eggers, for a while, because the DP Director of photography, he's done.

01:14:00.649 --> 01:14:09.572
He did the Northman, the Lighthouse, the Witch and Nosferatu, all with the same director, so he has a huge.

01:14:09.572 --> 01:14:11.650
The way your movie looks.

01:14:11.650 --> 01:14:19.087
The director matters a lot, but the director of photography matters big, big time on making that look that way.

01:14:19.087 --> 01:14:24.552
So excited to see what else he might like continue to come out with or not.

01:14:24.552 --> 01:14:30.231
Because if he wants to stop doing these scary movies and do something I like, I'll be.

01:14:30.231 --> 01:14:31.817
I'll be super excited for it.

01:14:31.817 --> 01:14:33.764
Do you like hamlet, hamlet?

01:14:33.984 --> 01:14:37.189
yeah the like a new, like the story in general.

01:14:37.189 --> 01:14:40.095
Yeah, yeah, are they making the northman?

01:14:40.796 --> 01:14:46.311
oh, yeah is the original story from icelandic lore, all right that hamlet's based off of.

01:14:46.311 --> 01:14:47.335
All right, I'll have to watch it.

01:14:47.335 --> 01:15:02.859
Uh, a lot of people went into the northman and they thought it was just going to be big war movie, big viking fighting tons of other vikings or knights movie, and it's very small in scale because the original story is very small.

01:15:02.899 --> 01:15:31.449
You know, it's very uh contained in a icelandic viking culture, yeah and so, but it's really good, I really enjoyed it, and it's also one of those movies that has like a very fine line that gets crossed between supernatural and reality kind of that standard viking stuff, you know, yeah, yeah uh, and willem dafoe farts in it and it's hilarious, he farts in it, yeah, but I really enjoyed it.

01:15:31.751 --> 01:15:35.750
Uh, it was a movie that billy jean did not enjoy much, but I really.

01:15:35.750 --> 01:15:37.556
I liked all of robert egger's movies so far.

01:15:37.556 --> 01:15:39.524
The witch easily the most horrifying one.

01:15:39.524 --> 01:15:44.895
The witch is insanely unsettling and scary easily the most scared I've ever been watching.

01:15:44.895 --> 01:15:51.618
A uh movie about witches, because I usually think witches are dumb, right, but the the witch scared me.

01:15:51.618 --> 01:15:55.287
And then, um, the lighthouse made.

01:15:55.287 --> 01:16:01.436
The lighthouse was the movie that I saw that made me think um, what's our boy robert patrickson?

01:16:02.578 --> 01:16:08.537
no, patrick robertson no, dude who played our other favorite vampire, edward.

01:16:09.318 --> 01:16:14.979
Oh, yeah, yeah, right robert pattinson yeah yeah, uh, the lighthouse was the movie I saw with robert pattinson.

01:16:14.979 --> 01:16:19.515
That made me think, oh, robert pattinson is actually a really good actor and I kind of like him a lot.

01:16:19.515 --> 01:16:23.747
Um, and that was before the newest batman movie too.

01:16:23.747 --> 01:16:30.319
So, oh, yeah, um, but anyways, uh, great movies, great, great, uh, set up a what is it?

01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:30.966
Great pedigree?

01:16:30.966 --> 01:16:32.350
He's got so far robert aggers.

01:16:32.350 --> 01:16:34.095
I'm excited to see what he comes out with next too.

01:16:34.136 --> 01:16:37.832
For sure, I think he just does a lot of horror because horror.

01:16:37.832 --> 01:16:42.064
It's very easy to tell old stories that have been around for a long time because a lot of them are horror.

01:16:42.064 --> 01:16:43.814
It's very easy to tell old stories that have been around for a long time because a lot of them are horror ones.

01:16:43.814 --> 01:16:49.972
But I genuinely think he just has a fascination and appreciation for, like, very old tales of humanity.

01:16:49.972 --> 01:17:09.222
Yeah, so with that hope, ken, that you enjoyed everything, please grab a chapel of ghouls I thought it was just singular chapel of ghouls from, uh, true brewery again, I mean, we're not really sponsored by them, but, heck, we love their beer and it's pretty good.

01:17:09.222 --> 01:17:12.591
Um, and check out nosferatu.

01:17:12.591 --> 01:17:14.817
If horror is your thing, give it a watch.

01:17:14.817 --> 01:17:19.730
If you don't like horror, maybe, like, wait until you have someone else to watch it with right.

01:17:19.730 --> 01:17:24.358
Yeah, all that said, thanks for joining us, pat.

01:17:24.358 --> 01:17:24.797
Anything.

01:17:24.818 --> 01:17:26.520
Until next time.

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